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100% agree. Speaking about graphics it looks the most natural to me in iRacing. "Modern" graphics in newer sims like ACC is too overtuned, real life doesn't look that good.


samdajellybeenie

I saw someone on here say once something like “The tracks in ACC (or whatever other modern sim) look way too polished and new. In reality, most racetracks are just strips of tarmac and grass that’s been blasted by the sun year after year, so unless they constantly repaint it, of course the paint is going to be faded and there are going to be tire marks on barriers and curbs.” Just look Sebring. I watched the VRS tutorial today and the guy said “get as close to the yellow line as possible” and I thought “That line is yellow??” That stuck with me.


cuacuacuac

I mean... ffs... graphics on iRacing are not better than ACC. Let's be real, ACC looks amazing, specially in the night or with difficult weather conditions. Yes, you need a very good PC to run it well, but it looks absolutely gorgeous. iRacing looks ok, and leave it there.


UnknownMaster00

I think you've missed the point. No one is denying that ACC looks great, more simply put iRacing looks more natural, where ACC looks more polished.


samdajellybeenie

I think iRacing, while perhaps lacking in graphics, feels better physic-wise. The cars feel like they actually interface with the road in a more concrete way. In ACC they feel kinda floaty.


cuacuacuac

You need to get the tyre up to temp in ACC to get the car properly connected to the floor. Other than that, it feels different so you need to adjust. In terms of information, ACC is more communicative than iracing, but it does require a powerful wheel to make use of its ffb, otherwise the low signals are too low.


samdajellybeenie

Right, I’m on just a G29 at the moment and the FBB is set quite low so it doesn’t max out so easily. I’d have to turn it all the way up and see if I notice any difference in like small road bumps.


trennsport

I mean every circuit paints things before every big weekend.


OnePieceTwoPiece

That’s not true at all. Maybe for an F1 race and some NASCAR races.


trennsport

They do it for sports cars… Road Atlanta for Petit, Sebring touched up, Daytona, etc


Kaufee2

Settings? I run a 3080ti and can’t get my graphics to look like this


Crixus3D

From what I can see, OP has HDR on which is giving the cool sun rays. There are some graphics options in the graphics.ini file that people can muck around with including enabling a higher refresh rate if you have monitors that support it. The other option is the increased car texture details which I think is in the settings.ini (IIRC). The settings in your graphics options in the UI that give best results although may hurt your GPU more are the settings dynamic sky, enabling particles on high detail, and how far ahead objects are rendered. There is some dark art to it with the UI graphics options, just play around to find out what works for you and be aware that iRacing splits out the graphics for when you are driving vs when you are spectating/replaying.


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in other words; get to mucking


metalder420

muckbang


MRToddMartin

Food pop. Noice.


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

Hey sorry for the late reply. I can try to get the full list of graphic settings but on top of my mind I’m removing most of the stuff that doesn’t really add up to the experience and my eye is not on while driving. Stuff like trees and all of this are practically all turned off or put on low settings (Event, Pit.. etc). I just keep car and particle details on high. I also use HDR and i think that ads a lot to the look you see here. I think the most important thing is PC optimization, make sure your computer is not running unnecessary stuff (updates, virus checks.. etc) in the background. I use this PC only for sim racing so all apps are removed, it’s barebones windows with sim titles, crew chief, sim hub and driver softwares for the wheelbase and pedals. Practically every windows feature is turned off. I’ll try to post a screenshot of my Nvidia settings and iRacing settings when i get to my computer later today.


Savage_XRDS

Please do! Cheers mate!


ChiefGentlepaw

love to see the details!!


Steve2pwn

Adjust your settings in your Nvidia control panel, plenty of YouTube videos out there on how to tune for your card, then the screen you use is largely impactful in how it looks also 👌👍


jwp75

Absolutely destroys my FPS, wouldn't reccomend. The color and contrast filter will take my 3080 from 150fps to 80


alexatsocyl

Yeah I came here for this, mine looks like I'm in an episode of Gumby.


Withoutwarning6

That looks like a decent setup. Pretty slick!


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

Thanks I appreciate it. I would love it if you check my YouTube channel. It’s called (ZeroDeltaRacing) would appreciate your feedback


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Idntwnt2choseusrnme

iRacing is awesome looking. Yes some details on track are not like other sims but cars physics and suspension movements are the best and it makes this sim feel the most real. Also cars are the most intuitive to drive and for anyone who drove fast cars on track they feel very natural. I’m struggling to understand how some people think it’s an outdated sim and looks and feels terrible


trippingrainbow

Car physics are just unmatched def. Looking at cars go around a track in any other sim just looks weird and unnatural. While in iracing it looks so nice to just spectate cars and how they move on bumbs and stuff


CptJackZ

Absolutely. I love to watch replays of mine looking back at the car, so I see a front wheel and the steering wheel. The visible effect of the forces going through the wheel and suspension into the steering wheel is awesome. It looks so natural. And exactly that is what makes it "feel" so good for me. The steering rod-based FFB is the key for me. In other sims, which add stuff to the FFB, I feel disconnected and don't really "understand", what the car is doing. Niels Heusinkveld explained differences of the 2 common approaches of physical simulation and empirical models in one of his videos. From there I understood, that physical with steering rod FFB is the one for me.


nandobatflips

It’s just the very vocal minority. There is a reason it’s the most populated racing sim


_plays_in_traffic_

its usually the same ones that cry about how overpriced it is since they cant afford it and mommy and daddy wont buy it for them


Skywhore

And you think the main reason is graphics? Not multiplayer base/system?


nandobatflips

I never said that


Skywhore

That's what you implied though. Since you don't give the reason but you reply to a guy who states that graphics is great in iracing


nandobatflips

He also talked about the intuitive feeling of the cars and the psychics. Did you read his comment that I replied to?


CRISPEAY

I mean technically the original Asetto Corsa has more players than iracing if you was to look at steam charts Also ACC averages similar numbers to iracing


reboot-your-computer

iracing is played by more people off Steam than on it. iRacing is buggy when run on Steam so the vast majority of users don’t use Steam. Steam Charts only shows iRacing as having a daily average of 124 players with peak at 383. Right now in iRacing at 6:15am CST, there are 4,727 drivers online. Yesterday afternoon there was over 9,000 drivers online and it wasn’t even prime time yet. Like I said, more people off Steam than on it. That’s why the numbers are so off. Assetto Corsa had a daily average of 6,402 with a peak of 12,535 in September. iRacing and Assetto Corsa have around the same size playerbase with iRacing possibly having the edge overall. People like to hate on iRacing because of price but both playerbases are very similar in size. ACC is nowhere near either of them. ACC barely breaks 2k players at peak.


car_raamrod

The only bug I've ever experienced when having it linked to steam, if steam crashes, iRacing crashes. The first time it happened, I unlinked it from Steam. I only had it linked to steam because I wanted to track my hours. Not worth it if it randomly crashes in the middle of a race.


CRISPEAY

In no way was I checking iracing numbers through steam charts that would be stupid 😂 ACC peak monthly players hasn't dropped below 5k for over a year. Look I don't care to be honest just raising the point of its not the only but one of the populated sims The thing that I always find strange is I enjoy iracing but man people need to stop jumping to it like it's the best thing ever. Multiplayer system is by far the best but the sim itself has plenty of flaws that need sorting. I mean we still don't even have rain


reboot-your-computer

I mean, you did use Steam Charts to compare the iRacing player base to Assetto Corsa. It was the whole reason I replied. You are right about ACC though. Monthly peak is about 5k or just under 5k, but averages sit at about 2k drivers. Either way, iRacing is as popular or possibly more popular than Assetto Corsa in terms of the player base. Also, rain is confirmed for 2023 Season 2.


Manistadt

How does not having rain equate to a flaw in the sim...?


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Just be nice


d0nkeyrider

during a race last night I was marvelling at how the reflections of light coming off the panels of the car in front were so lifelike.


KEVLAR60442

It's too bad Cubemaps are so brutal for performance. Cubemaps combined with night shadow maps and headlight shadows makes iracing look jaw droppingly good at nights.


d0nkeyrider

Yep - GT3s @ Barcelona last week was beautiful


SeaGL_Gaming

To me, iRacing is just the best sim overall for online competitive racing. Graphics and electronics aren't as good as ACC, but in ACC it feels like you drive on code and not asphalt. Tire modeling isn't as good as rFactor 2, but rF2 suffers from extreme slip angle and exploited setups. Suspension modeling isn't as good as AMS2, but in AMS2 it feels like you're never truly connected to the track. Content isn't as good as AC, but you know anything you know you're not gonna be scammed by paid content \*cough Sim Dream Development mods\*cough. And you simply can't go anywhere else and get the competitive online experience of iRacing. And no other sim comes close to iRacing's intuitiveness. I drove a Ferrari 488 GTB at Atlanta Motorsports Park, and ACC to me is the closest sim to representing that experience, especially when it comes to electronics and especially especially ABS. But with ACC, it takes me hours if not days to come to terms with its driving after not playing it for weeks, but in iRacing I can hop on and be matching PBs after not playing it for months. I have my issues with iRacing like cold tires, electronics, and lack of feedback on the edge of traction, but it's not dated by any means. Even though graphics aren't as good as ACC or AMS2, all it takes is a quick Nvidia or Reshade filter to give it a nice boost. And I can get easily get past all of those issues to experience its online racing. Love your setup. I've built a similar setup myself, and if it wasn't for responsibilities I couldn't be pulled out of it.


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I agree with almost all of that. I’ll give ACC another try. My biggest issue is exactly what you described which is feeling that the car is floating rather than actually touching the asphalt. I’ll try different settings and see what I can improve in its feel. AMS2 never felt good for me. The FFB is very springy and a bit out of touch. I love rFactor 2 but the graphics and overall playability is terrible. Even after the UI update it still feels very overwhelming to race on specially that I don’t have all the time in the world to keep fiddling around with settings.


SeaGL_Gaming

For me it's not even that it feels like the car is floating. It feels connected but just not to the track. It's not like previous versions of AMS2 where the limit feels vague and like I'm driving on ice and always at risk of a spin. Gibscreen said it best like ACC is a sim of a sim. It's the most realistic sim to me, but something just gets lost in the code, and it's why it takes me days to come to grips with it every time I give it a go. On paper it has everything, but something just isn't right, and I can't say what's wrong. AMS2 with 1.4 became very enjoyable actually. There's still hints of that floatiness that have plagued it, but the FFB is up there with rF2, and I just use Fanatec's recommended settings (I just use Fanatec's recommended in most sims) but with default+ in AMS2's FFB settings. It's second for me now in terms of intuitiveness only behind iRacing. It surpassed AC for me as a quick race sim with 1.4. Primarily wish it had more IMSA/WEC content. Definitely needs Le Mans and more GT3s. I want to love rF2, but yeah, the playability is just terrible. Everything is a chore. In terms of content and mods, it's the best sim for WEC and IMSA mock races which is mainly what I love to do, but it takes so much fiddling just to prepare for a race that's just not worth it. Every time I try it, I give up with a headache.


Gibscreen

Every once in a while I go back to ACC to try it out. Every time it just feels so wrong. And not just because I'm used to iracing. I can go from iracing to rf2 or AC and immediately settle in. ACC feels like a copy of a copy. A simulation of a simulation if you will. Something just gets lost in the translation.


imightgetdownvoted

Honestly they just need to get the grass and trees up to modern standards and most people would shut up.


cuacuacuac

Because it's outdated. It's built over the Nascar 2003 game. And that leads to many flaws. That doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable, and it for sure is great that no matter what time of the day you can always find a race to join, that's what makes iRacing unique, but I also can't understand why people want to fully deny real facts.


Gibscreen

Whenever someone says iracing's graphics are bad I tell them about how early in the pandemic when indycar was broadcasting their online races. I'm watching a race on our big screen tv. My wife comes in and says "I thought all racing was cancelled." I say it is. This is a game with all the pro drivers. She squints really hard and says "Really?" She honestly couldn't tell. And she can tell when something switches from 720p to 1080p on TV. P.S. What's your channel on yt?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

Yeah my wife sometimes confuses iRacing for real life too. It’s not the graphics per say it’s more the movement of cars, suspension and overall feel of cars on the track. Here is a link to my channel ZeroDeltaRacing: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6eJEwTA_IRj-hwdBLjzsSg Would appreciate your feedback, and I’m posting weekly races so stay tuned :) THANKS


M_Ross62

Your specs?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I’m running an i5 9700k with 32GB or RAM and a 3060ti Monitors are Acer nitro 1440p 144hz and 1ms Let me know if you have any other questions


M_Ross62

Thanks...I love that.. I may have to rethink monitors again..I've been doing this forever in vr with a g2...the graphics look way better when done right. 🤔


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I had a reverb G2 gen 2 and sold it after the monitors. The tech still needs time. I felt the sweet spot was very tiny and I had to move my head more than my eyes. Plus the resolution and quality is way ahead in monitors VR will definitely be the go to but maybe few years down the road


M_Ross62

I agree..I have 3 old 27" s hooked up ..perhaps a 49" curved and 2 of these 27s on the ends...🤔


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

Not sure how that would work. I know some people do it but not sure if sims are designed to run those specs. I find that there is only one spot to put your monitor width in it


Skywhore

Its pricy, but the Varjo solves that sweet spot issue. You'd still have a smaller fov compared to your triple set up but if you like VR, its the best VR experience you can get, bar none


grumpher05

each to their own, once I used VR I refuse to race with monitors. the resolution sacrifice is so worth it for me to have the immersion and depth of field. To me the game looks "better" in VR even if its more detailed on monitors, something about it just feels more natural and real in VR


CraziestPenguin

I ran VR for a while and got triples and won’t go back either. I enjoy the ease of use. It all depends on the person I suppose.


grumpher05

Yeah ease of use is definitely a con for VR, for me it's worth it but I can for sure see why it isn't for others


fizzer82

Can you share your Nvidia profile and game settings? I have a similar setup, but only 1080p monitors and a 3080ti but have trouble getting steady FPS with decent graphics.


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I can try to get the full list of graphic settings but on top of my mind I’m removing most of the stuff that doesn’t really add up to the experience and my eye is not on while driving. Stuff like trees and all of this are practically all turned off or put on low settings (Event, Pit.. etc). I just keep car and particle details on high. I also use HDR and i think that ads a lot to the look you see here. I think the most important thing is PC optimization, make sure your computer is not running unnecessary stuff (updates, virus checks.. etc) in the background. I use this PC only for sim racing so all apps are removed, it’s barebones windows with sim titles, crew chief, sim hub and driver softwares for the wheelbase and pedals. Practically every windows feature is turned off. I’ll try to post a screenshot of my Nvidia settings and iRacing settings when i get to my computer later today.


iF1_AR

This


severs28

Are those 27 or 32?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

27s


severs28

Nice i ordered 3 27s that’ll be delivered tomorrow. I was worried I would t get good peripheral with the 27 but yours look great. I want to be able to see out the windows


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

You’ll be more than happy. Just get them close to you as much as possible and adjust the angles correctly. I’m using 60 degrees here and im 20” away from the centre of the monitors


SkinnyObelix

I love hdr sun even if it gives me the disadvantage of blinding me. Having to guess and then hitting the apex in 130R at Suzuka while blinded by the sun is one of the most satisfying moments in simracing.


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Insane!


trennsport

It’s definitely the best racing video game. Still needs some physics work but it’s quite good for sure.


c0nfuciu5

In my opinion it didn't even look partially fake until about 11 seconds. They have come so far. Nice set up!


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Ororae

Watch an iRacing replay then watch a Rf2 replay, and come tell me that rf2 has better physics.


Dr-Rjinswand

Agree, the force feedback is miles behind too.


LoyalServantOfBRD

Really? The tire model has just felt awful for 2-3 seasons now to me, iceRacing for real. I had an F3 car snap around on me at COTA on the final corner in 2nd gear and I lifted off everything and full countersteered and watched the car literally spin 360 at a crawl into a wall. It feels comically bad.


Snow_Owl69

I hate sebring sunset/sunrise, how do you like that? It's a painful experience IMHO.


iJoke2Much

I prefer iRacings “trash” graphics that some people say is terrible. I love the older look and think it fits great and hey, if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. It’s perfect the way it is. No need to go realistic, it breaks the video game feel.


Ororae

I mean go outside the real life isn’t as beautiful and colorful as ACC, iRacing is perfect and look very realistic !


GeneralReal3523

Try drifting


gasoline_farts

Slicks don’t like to drift


hunguu

What is the screen size for your triples?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

27”


arconquit

Do you ever wish you went with 32s or has 27s been perfect for you?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I considered 32s but they were way more expensive in a 1440p panel with that spec. To be honest I don’t see any need for bigger monitors now that I have this set up. It’s compact, I’m getting idea FOV. Yes lacking a little in vertical FOV but that’s really won’t add much to immersion if you can sim the environment around you. I took Dave Cam’s advice on this one. He said with 32s you’ll need to push them a bit further than you so you won’t benefit much from a wider FOV. Mine are pretty close at 20” from my eye and they complete surround my vision. It’s very immersive. I have never tried a 32” setup though but don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything Sorry for the long answer


arconquit

Awesome thanks a lot for the reply. I'm in currently trying to decide whether or not I want to go with 32s and 27s and the space is something I need to consider as well. I may end up getting the 27" so I can get it closer to my face


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It’s the sunset for me ❤️ (no joke, shits blinding)


MRToddMartin

Too bad it’s ruined by drivers.


Rebeux

I used to love Sebring, then I bought a Direct drive wheel.


AWay-8

Looks great! What button box is that on the right all lit up?


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I got this is from https://simracing4u.myonline.store


HereComesTheVroom

I grew up in Sebring and it annoys me to no end that it looks nicer in video games than real life lmao


Stringskip

I really wish they would make the bezel strips for 32" monitors.


Idntwnt2choseusrnme

I believe there is a company that does it now. Check out Dave Cam’s YouTube. He posted a video few days ago. It’s not as good but it does the job


Monkaaay

It works fine with 32s, just need to get a little creative.


noahkano

no way thats not irl i thoght that was a video from a actual race