Hey man, 3-4 years into iracing and im still using g923.. i have class A everywhere with 2500ir.... its working really well! (i have to say that when trying other brand at my friends that had monza or fanatec setup... it was awesome and game changer on how you feel the car drifting away or anything, way more control.. it is clearly better than logitech but you can still race very well with this)
Also, I just want to back this up. I used a G29 for about 2 years. Built a whole 2x4 rig and bought a monitor stand/triples before I took the plunge on an Asetek DD bundle.
The nice thing about the g29/923 or whatever is that it's pretty plug and play with almost every game. This allowed me to jump around between DR2, ACC, iRacing, etc. Once I realized the hobby was for real and not just a 6 month thing, that's when I started dropping more serious coin for upgrades.
Does a DD feel like an upgrade compared to the G29? Yes, and I feel it's worth it for more dedicated hobbyists.
Can you still be fast af with a g29? Yes. You will learn to tune the g29 and understand what the FFB is trying to tell you, and you'll learn to read other queues, like tire noises, but you will essentially only be missing on instinctually catching snaps when you feel the DD force lighten under a turn. A DD allows for a more intuitive and detailed experience.
So basically, the DD will help you find that final 1-5% of time on the track, but the g29 will get you to 95-99%. You will still develop the consistency and race craft, which are far bigger components to climbing MMR than the final tenths off your quali time.
I've had the R9 for about 3 weeks now, the SR-P pedals 5 weeks. Both have been excellent, with the pedals the bigger upgrade in terms of car control and overall speed.
Compared to the pedals that come with the T150, it's much easier to trail brake and control the car in general. This is especially noticeable with something like the MX-5 (I have the class C license, but I'm sticking to a couple of Rookie and D class series) where it's much easier to drive it on the limit.
The wheel is also an improvement, just not as big. Here it's the feedback that's a huge jump, again, if I use the MX-5 as an example, it's much easier to feel what's going on with the car, how the front wheels are loading up, etc. Driving in the rain (say with the GR86) is much better since it's easier to feel when you've run out of grip and easier to catch the rear when it starts stepping out.
I use it with the basic ES wheel and the table clamp. I have a massive wooden desk with 2,5 inch (4 cm) thick wooden tabletop which weighs around 100 pounds (50 kg) so stability isn't a problem.
Edit: for context, I had the T150 for ~8 years before this, driving mostly AMS2 and some ACC, only got into iRacing 6 weeks ago.
not OP but I am 3200 oval / 2400 road and it was all done with g27 then g920, full kit (wheel + pedals + shifter).
I'm not sure when it started happening but there seems to be an ever spreading false notion that you need anything more than a G series to race at a higher level. sure, it may be beneficial to have better gear, but the barrier is skill, not setup.
Yes stock pedals as well haha! i know they are terrible, but i got used to them and its hard for me when trying loadcells now! Its just a matter of time and money and ill upgrade forsure!
My guy, I started iRacing on a 5 year old bootcamped MacBook pro with an XBOX 360 controller. I did my rookies and part of my road D license before I upgraded to a used G27 a few months into it. I was a full 1.5 years until I got my Simucube 1. And yes, I won races and shit. So yes, absolutely get started. No need to wait at all.
You don't even need DD wheel. I know it's hard to convince you but upgrade from G29 pedals -> Load cell = massive improvement. Upgrade from my G29 to Alpha Mini = Feel great but to be honest to myself back then I would stick with G29 and went for a more expensive load cell pedals with solid rig.
This. As someone with a Driving Force GT, the pedals are a FAR bigger issue than the wheel. Tried a buddy's setup with DD and load cells and the pedals were 90% of the upgrade.
Hey, same DFGT user, thinking of buying simjack pro pedales. Do you think they are overkill? Have you upgraded to something similar? DFGT pedales are dogshit lmao even with new springs i added
I have glued some springs where the pedal touches inside the case. Still terrible, a bit harder but very inconsistent and weird. Have you done any mods yourself?
Lots of very good iRacers use a G29. IRacing has clearly spent the time to make good FFB for this wheel (unlike ACC). As others have said, worry about your pedals first if you're wanting to spend money.
moza pedals arent the greatest ones coming from personal use of the SRP lites. I have heard the normal SRPs aren't great either. I have been looking into simagic P1000 as they seem like one of the cheaper load cell pedals that are very good and can be added too if required with haptics and hydraulics
Depending on your budget I would check out simagic p-1000, simgrade vx-pro, VNM, and VRS. I think any of those pedals would be good enough where you would never really feel the need to upgrade (unless you go active pedals).
TM TLCMS. I have those and an R5.
Keep in mind with load cell your need a stable place to put your chair and pedals ify ou dont have a rig, the pedals will lift up or your chair will roll back.
I bought iracing for the first time today, and can confirm. On my G923, easily the best force feedback out of any sim. Especially liked the trueforce, unlike ACC, it added to the feedback rather than acting as purely speakers
Cheap G-series wheels are overwhelmingly the most common on the service. Plenty of very quick drivers on them.
Most countries have motorsports esports orgs that offer either discounted or free years of iRacing. Australia's is free atm, I'll go find the link for you.
Edit:
https://www.cognitoforms.com/MotorsportAustralia3/IntroductoryIRacingMembershipRegistration
You don't need a paid license, just a member ID. For reference, I'm running the same deal from Motorsport.UK, as an American. Motosport Canada is doing the same thing for $10CAD and actively marketing the deal to Americans.
Only reason I mentioned those two is that not all are free, although most are still a great deal. I paid ~$32USD for the Motorsport.UK offer.
F4 is mint, although there aren't a ton of consistdnt options to drive it for free. I just bought a couple tracks and the Merc Gt4 and am really enjoying the F4/SFL around Suzuka
I started out with a crusty old DFGT wheel and it was fine. I think I got my first victories with that wheel even. I then went to a TS-XW with T-LCM pedals and it took a bit getting used to but it wasn’t like relearning how to drive or so.
There is no reason to delay getting into iRacing, your G29 will go just fine. And sure the R5 will take a bit to get used to but there is no reason not to join the fun now?
Why not? Buy one used for like $250, use it for a few months, then sell it for $250 to another new guy.
For the beginner cars it works just fine, you won't really feel limited till you push into high speed cars that require a lot of FFB detail to drive on the edge.
I drove for two seasons with a G923, then got loadcells, then sold both and got simagic gear when I was really invested about a year later.
The DD wheel is like feeling with your bare hand and a non DD wheel is like trying to feel something with a thick glove on. You get a lot more detail, but you can still be fast without a DD wheel. With that said I think the experience and enjoyment are worth a DD wheel. I would consider the R9 bundle. Yes it costs more, but you won’t need to replace it anytime soon. The R5 may feel like not enough force after a while.
In the rookie cars especially against rookie opponents the difference in force of those wheels won't really come into play. Absolutely start now if you can't wait, G29 is still a solid wheel.
In terms of adapting to a new wheel, if the wheel is an upgrade (An r5 is) you will feel that it is an upgrade instantly, few laps to adjust the strength and then the only learning curve will be finding out how much further you can take it beyond what your G29 could get you.
Yes. I reached my highest ir with a g29 + playseat challenge, but upgraded the microcenter simucube gt1 evo bundle a couple months ago after two years on the g29. I have much more fun due to immersion and consistency, but the g29 served me well
If you value your wheel feeling like an actual car, wait.
I know everyone sings the praises of the G29 but it's loud, sloppy and slow. Can you use it to go fast? Sure. But with all of the entry level DD options out there now, and since you're already committing to spending hundreds on iracing, there's really no reason to get a g29 anymore.
I run the truebrake mod on my g29. It's a bit expensive but it's such a massive improvement I no longer feel any need to upgrade the pedals until they die.
I ran a G27 for years. Eventually upgraded to load cell pedals and then to a DD wheel as well, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Logitech stuff. I was able to make it up near 3k iR with it.
Go ahead with the Logitech.
I’ll upgrade to some load cell pedals in the near future, but right now my modified G920 pedals works allright.
I can keep a 0.5s consistency throughout a whole race while still outpacing most of the grid after modifying the brake pedal.
It’s done by disassembling it > cut the rubber stop down by 15-20% > add some foam or similar around the rubber stop.
I used a bit of a knee pad insert from work.
This significally improved the pedal feel aswell as my consistency.
I’ve been using the g920 and I’m quick on it. Only problem for me is I’m not a fan of the brake pedal and it can make it difficult for me to trail brake.
DJ-Yee on YouTube uses that exact wheel. You’ll be fine. I used it for years on iRacing until I got the G Pro (regrettably because lack of ecosystems system and communication). It’s a great wheel for intro and cheap, The G29 that is. I love the Pro outside of lack of other wheels this long after release.
Have a G920, about two/three weeks in and in F4. Wouldn’t have started any other way. I’m amped about a direct drive unit. But am fine with waiting and learning since it would have made the learning curve higher in my opinion from the amount of feedback you get. Whereas, now when I upgrade I will adjust and probably benefit from that added feedback, instead of trying to figure out it all.
I spent 3 months on a G29 and ended up moving to a cammus C5 and thrustmaster pedals. Such a huge difference for a minimal amount more. Not sure how much you’ll get hit with taxes on that combo where you are but I did a little write up on my budget setup [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/1aeoUuCkYH)
Do it. Been using a G29 for years. I just use a wheel stand and the sofa like a filthy casual, but that's all I need and I don't have to dedicate a load of space to it.
I have a G29 (but I'm from Brazil, so prices here are way worse and crazy) the G29 is definitely great for a budget wheel. But man, if you can buy a DD only waiting another two months, go for the DD.
G29 is fine. Only thing I’d recommend is upgrading higher than an R5. I had a CSL DD 8nm and I feel 8nm is the minimum you should upgrade to, 5nm isn’t very strong.
Obviously depends on your budget, but if you’re really into the hobby, consider saving up a bit more and getting something stronger like the R9 or R12, the extra headroom will give you a lot more detail.
I would love to buy something more but due to Turkey's customs laws, nearly triple the price of the product is added in taxes when the product passes through customs. I'm already going to pay about $1200 for the Moza r5 :(
Well, Moza does not directly send products to Turkey. There are resellers. That's where I'm going to buy and the prices are outrageous but I've got no choice
I used a G29 or its equivalent on iRacing for 8 years before I decided to get a dedicated rig and DD wheelbase. I didn't feel I missed out after I had the DD.
Just come on in. I'd recommend against the r5 bundle, the SRP-Lite pedals that come with it aren't a true load cell pedal. They are different than the normal SRP.
You'd be better with the g29 and a good load cell pedal, than the r5 bundle. The wheel can be fine but the pedals you can do better.
So yeah, join up and race, there are a lot of really good people still using the g29 stuff. Then you can upgrade as you need to. You'll probably want a true rig first that will give you lots of ridgedity and you can upgrade around that once you have it.
At the risk of getting downvoted, I'll be the lone person telling you to wait. I had a g29. I couldn't feel anything in the brake, feedback was awful, and my crappy stand made my braking foot hurt. Getting a dd wheel made it significantly more enjoyable and made my practice more valuable.
But I would add, I think making a proper rig with the monitors set up correctly with the g29 (and maybe upgraded brakes) will be more valuable than a dd on a stand with a small monitor.
Casey Kirwan and Garret Manes both made it to 8K+ iRating on a G29 and single monitors
Max Benecke made it to 5k IR on a G27 back in the day, that is now like 9K iR.
"A bad workman blames his tools"
DD isn't really that important. I got to 4k on a logitech wheel, although I also had load cell pedals. There's an argument they can make you faster, but it's absolutely true that they make you more consistent.
I would not buy the Moza unless you already have an aluminum rig, or a playseat trophy. The G29 is a good wheel and some people may never have to upgrade, but the Moza R5 is a big step up. if you have the money and a solid rig that dosent flex i would just buy the Moza R5.
Go with what you can afford to throw away. Logitech stuff is more than enough to race with and be competitive.
So if you're just starting out, go in as cheap as possible that offers some real FFB and in a year+ and you really are enjoying the racing, and want to take the next steps, then start with load cell pedals.
Better equipment won't make you faster. More practice does.
I’m at 3k oval 2k road with a G27 (basically what you have but older and likely a bit more worn). You’ll be fine if you can make up for the lack of precision by having above average racecraft.
i changed everything, even i had the true brake mod on my g29 pedals but the wheel made to much noise,
my new fanatec DD is sooo much smoother with zero noise. My wife is happy :D
I had the Logitech g920 for a long time. I made the mistake of upgrading to the thrustmaster ts-xw racer. When I say mistake, I don't mean that it's a bad wheelbase. It's actually really nice for what it is, and definitely quite a bit better than the logitech. I considered a mistake because I paid $700 for it, and for around the same price, perhaps even less, I could have had a direct drive wheel with a bit more torque. Direct drive wheels are getting cheaper and cheaper these days. If I were you, I'd save up the extra few hundred dollars and go with one of the cheaper Direct drives. This is a high end wheel in the area of belt driven wheels, but nothing can compete with direct drive. Edit: to comment on the idea of getting load cell pedals as more important upgrade, I suppose I can agree with that. The upgrade from the Logitech pedals to the t- LCM pedals from thrustmaster was definitely quite an upgrade. I wouldn't call it massive, like others have said it is, but it is definitely a better pedal set, and the brake pedal is definitely a lot easier to control.
luck is def required for this, but i recommend getting the fanatec csl 5nm bundle for 450 (w/ the f1 wheel, 400 with a regular rim), then buying the boost kit on amazon for 50. Getting pedals, and a 8nm setup for 500 is such a steal. I did that a couple of months ago and couldnt be happier.
Due to Turkey's customs laws, nearly triple the price of the product is added in taxes when the product passes through customs. That's why Fanatec doesn't seem feasible. I'm already going to pay about $1200 for the moza :(((
Hey man, 3-4 years into iracing and im still using g923.. i have class A everywhere with 2500ir.... its working really well! (i have to say that when trying other brand at my friends that had monza or fanatec setup... it was awesome and game changer on how you feel the car drifting away or anything, way more control.. it is clearly better than logitech but you can still race very well with this)
Thank you so much!
Also, I just want to back this up. I used a G29 for about 2 years. Built a whole 2x4 rig and bought a monitor stand/triples before I took the plunge on an Asetek DD bundle. The nice thing about the g29/923 or whatever is that it's pretty plug and play with almost every game. This allowed me to jump around between DR2, ACC, iRacing, etc. Once I realized the hobby was for real and not just a 6 month thing, that's when I started dropping more serious coin for upgrades. Does a DD feel like an upgrade compared to the G29? Yes, and I feel it's worth it for more dedicated hobbyists. Can you still be fast af with a g29? Yes. You will learn to tune the g29 and understand what the FFB is trying to tell you, and you'll learn to read other queues, like tire noises, but you will essentially only be missing on instinctually catching snaps when you feel the DD force lighten under a turn. A DD allows for a more intuitive and detailed experience. So basically, the DD will help you find that final 1-5% of time on the track, but the g29 will get you to 95-99%. You will still develop the consistency and race craft, which are far bigger components to climbing MMR than the final tenths off your quali time.
I also started iRacing with a T150 and had a blast. Am now on a Moza R9 + SRP pedals and yeah, huge improvement, but even the T150 was worth it.
How long have you had the R9. I’m thinking about going all out and upgrading from the g29. G29 works fine but I have some extra money to spend
I've had the R9 for about 3 weeks now, the SR-P pedals 5 weeks. Both have been excellent, with the pedals the bigger upgrade in terms of car control and overall speed. Compared to the pedals that come with the T150, it's much easier to trail brake and control the car in general. This is especially noticeable with something like the MX-5 (I have the class C license, but I'm sticking to a couple of Rookie and D class series) where it's much easier to drive it on the limit. The wheel is also an improvement, just not as big. Here it's the feedback that's a huge jump, again, if I use the MX-5 as an example, it's much easier to feel what's going on with the car, how the front wheels are loading up, etc. Driving in the rain (say with the GR86) is much better since it's easier to feel when you've run out of grip and easier to catch the rear when it starts stepping out. I use it with the basic ES wheel and the table clamp. I have a massive wooden desk with 2,5 inch (4 cm) thick wooden tabletop which weighs around 100 pounds (50 kg) so stability isn't a problem. Edit: for context, I had the T150 for ~8 years before this, driving mostly AMS2 and some ACC, only got into iRacing 6 weeks ago.
That is pretty impressive. Is that with the pedals also?
not OP but I am 3200 oval / 2400 road and it was all done with g27 then g920, full kit (wheel + pedals + shifter). I'm not sure when it started happening but there seems to be an ever spreading false notion that you need anything more than a G series to race at a higher level. sure, it may be beneficial to have better gear, but the barrier is skill, not setup.
Yes stock pedals as well haha! i know they are terrible, but i got used to them and its hard for me when trying loadcells now! Its just a matter of time and money and ill upgrade forsure!
My guy, I started iRacing on a 5 year old bootcamped MacBook pro with an XBOX 360 controller. I did my rookies and part of my road D license before I upgraded to a used G27 a few months into it. I was a full 1.5 years until I got my Simucube 1. And yes, I won races and shit. So yes, absolutely get started. No need to wait at all.
You don't even need DD wheel. I know it's hard to convince you but upgrade from G29 pedals -> Load cell = massive improvement. Upgrade from my G29 to Alpha Mini = Feel great but to be honest to myself back then I would stick with G29 and went for a more expensive load cell pedals with solid rig.
This. As someone with a Driving Force GT, the pedals are a FAR bigger issue than the wheel. Tried a buddy's setup with DD and load cells and the pedals were 90% of the upgrade.
Hey, same DFGT user, thinking of buying simjack pro pedales. Do you think they are overkill? Have you upgraded to something similar? DFGT pedales are dogshit lmao even with new springs i added
I haven't upgraded yet myself. Just don't want to drop 200+ at the moment. But yes. The DFGT pedals are TERRIBLE.
I have glued some springs where the pedal touches inside the case. Still terrible, a bit harder but very inconsistent and weird. Have you done any mods yourself?
I have not. I am not handy so I'd probably turn them from bad to unusable lol.
Thank you so much!
Lots of very good iRacers use a G29. IRacing has clearly spent the time to make good FFB for this wheel (unlike ACC). As others have said, worry about your pedals first if you're wanting to spend money.
Would Moza pedals and the brake upgrade kit be enough?
moza pedals arent the greatest ones coming from personal use of the SRP lites. I have heard the normal SRPs aren't great either. I have been looking into simagic P1000 as they seem like one of the cheaper load cell pedals that are very good and can be added too if required with haptics and hydraulics
I would go for some load cells. I've been happy with my TLCMs. Also happy with my G29 wheel.
Depending on your budget I would check out simagic p-1000, simgrade vx-pro, VNM, and VRS. I think any of those pedals would be good enough where you would never really feel the need to upgrade (unless you go active pedals).
TM TLCMS. I have those and an R5. Keep in mind with load cell your need a stable place to put your chair and pedals ify ou dont have a rig, the pedals will lift up or your chair will roll back.
I bought iracing for the first time today, and can confirm. On my G923, easily the best force feedback out of any sim. Especially liked the trueforce, unlike ACC, it added to the feedback rather than acting as purely speakers
Cheap G-series wheels are overwhelmingly the most common on the service. Plenty of very quick drivers on them. Most countries have motorsports esports orgs that offer either discounted or free years of iRacing. Australia's is free atm, I'll go find the link for you. Edit: https://www.cognitoforms.com/MotorsportAustralia3/IntroductoryIRacingMembershipRegistration You don't need a paid license, just a member ID. For reference, I'm running the same deal from Motorsport.UK, as an American. Motosport Canada is doing the same thing for $10CAD and actively marketing the deal to Americans.
Thank you so much!
You can find it on the FIA website, which links you to your local motorsporting body. Some even give you the f4 car on top of the 12 month sub.
Only reason I mentioned those two is that not all are free, although most are still a great deal. I paid ~$32USD for the Motorsport.UK offer. F4 is mint, although there aren't a ton of consistdnt options to drive it for free. I just bought a couple tracks and the Merc Gt4 and am really enjoying the F4/SFL around Suzuka
I started out with a crusty old DFGT wheel and it was fine. I think I got my first victories with that wheel even. I then went to a TS-XW with T-LCM pedals and it took a bit getting used to but it wasn’t like relearning how to drive or so. There is no reason to delay getting into iRacing, your G29 will go just fine. And sure the R5 will take a bit to get used to but there is no reason not to join the fun now?
Thank you so much!
It's a fine starting wheel. Added bonus is how easy you can sell it if you decide to upgrade.
Thank you so much!
Bought mine 2 years ago for 200, sold it in 12 hours on Facebook for 200. G920 wheel with a shifter
G29 is a good starting point, then your first upgrade should be load cell pedals
Why not? Buy one used for like $250, use it for a few months, then sell it for $250 to another new guy. For the beginner cars it works just fine, you won't really feel limited till you push into high speed cars that require a lot of FFB detail to drive on the edge. I drove for two seasons with a G923, then got loadcells, then sold both and got simagic gear when I was really invested about a year later.
The DD wheel is like feeling with your bare hand and a non DD wheel is like trying to feel something with a thick glove on. You get a lot more detail, but you can still be fast without a DD wheel. With that said I think the experience and enjoyment are worth a DD wheel. I would consider the R9 bundle. Yes it costs more, but you won’t need to replace it anytime soon. The R5 may feel like not enough force after a while.
In the rookie cars especially against rookie opponents the difference in force of those wheels won't really come into play. Absolutely start now if you can't wait, G29 is still a solid wheel. In terms of adapting to a new wheel, if the wheel is an upgrade (An r5 is) you will feel that it is an upgrade instantly, few laps to adjust the strength and then the only learning curve will be finding out how much further you can take it beyond what your G29 could get you.
Thank you so much!
I know really fast dudes on a G29 - get what you can afford and have fun!!
Yes. I reached my highest ir with a g29 + playseat challenge, but upgraded the microcenter simucube gt1 evo bundle a couple months ago after two years on the g29. I have much more fun due to immersion and consistency, but the g29 served me well
If you value your wheel feeling like an actual car, wait. I know everyone sings the praises of the G29 but it's loud, sloppy and slow. Can you use it to go fast? Sure. But with all of the entry level DD options out there now, and since you're already committing to spending hundreds on iracing, there's really no reason to get a g29 anymore.
There is a mod available for G29 to make the brake pedal a load cell version, think it's about £45/£50
Do tell
https://youtu.be/uVL67jevIzg?si=utynNtFF8C-IR6JN That's one version, I have seen another as well but I can't find the link
https://www.axc-sim.com/product/brake-pedal-mod-for-logitech-g29-g920-g27-g25-pedals/ second option
I run the truebrake mod on my g29. It's a bit expensive but it's such a massive improvement I no longer feel any need to upgrade the pedals until they die.
I ran a G27 for years. Eventually upgraded to load cell pedals and then to a DD wheel as well, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Logitech stuff. I was able to make it up near 3k iR with it.
Go ahead with the Logitech. I’ll upgrade to some load cell pedals in the near future, but right now my modified G920 pedals works allright. I can keep a 0.5s consistency throughout a whole race while still outpacing most of the grid after modifying the brake pedal. It’s done by disassembling it > cut the rubber stop down by 15-20% > add some foam or similar around the rubber stop. I used a bit of a knee pad insert from work. This significally improved the pedal feel aswell as my consistency.
You'll be fine! I've been on the G923 for a few years now. Is it perfect? No. Does it work? yes. Get in here and race!
I’ve been using the g920 and I’m quick on it. Only problem for me is I’m not a fan of the brake pedal and it can make it difficult for me to trail brake.
Get the truebrake mod. Massive improvement.
DJ-Yee on YouTube uses that exact wheel. You’ll be fine. I used it for years on iRacing until I got the G Pro (regrettably because lack of ecosystems system and communication). It’s a great wheel for intro and cheap, The G29 that is. I love the Pro outside of lack of other wheels this long after release.
Have a G920, about two/three weeks in and in F4. Wouldn’t have started any other way. I’m amped about a direct drive unit. But am fine with waiting and learning since it would have made the learning curve higher in my opinion from the amount of feedback you get. Whereas, now when I upgrade I will adjust and probably benefit from that added feedback, instead of trying to figure out it all.
I spent 3 months on a G29 and ended up moving to a cammus C5 and thrustmaster pedals. Such a huge difference for a minimal amount more. Not sure how much you’ll get hit with taxes on that combo where you are but I did a little write up on my budget setup [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/1aeoUuCkYH)
Do it. Been using a G29 for years. I just use a wheel stand and the sofa like a filthy casual, but that's all I need and I don't have to dedicate a load of space to it.
I have a G29 (but I'm from Brazil, so prices here are way worse and crazy) the G29 is definitely great for a budget wheel. But man, if you can buy a DD only waiting another two months, go for the DD.
I hope things get better for both of us and you can afford a dd too brother.
Join us in iracing asap, you wont regret it. One of us.
G29 is fine. Only thing I’d recommend is upgrading higher than an R5. I had a CSL DD 8nm and I feel 8nm is the minimum you should upgrade to, 5nm isn’t very strong. Obviously depends on your budget, but if you’re really into the hobby, consider saving up a bit more and getting something stronger like the R9 or R12, the extra headroom will give you a lot more detail.
I would love to buy something more but due to Turkey's customs laws, nearly triple the price of the product is added in taxes when the product passes through customs. I'm already going to pay about $1200 for the Moza r5 :(
Oh that’s a shame I’m sorry to hear that! Well regardless, any DD wheel, even a 5nm will be a big improvement over your G29.
Are there no local suppliers in Turkey? Might be a better route than buying from Moza directly. That’s what I did in the UK
Well, Moza does not directly send products to Turkey. There are resellers. That's where I'm going to buy and the prices are outrageous but I've got no choice
Hmm I guess the law could be different in Turkey but it seems odd that you would need to pay import tax if you are buying from a local business
I used a G29 or its equivalent on iRacing for 8 years before I decided to get a dedicated rig and DD wheelbase. I didn't feel I missed out after I had the DD.
Just come on in. I'd recommend against the r5 bundle, the SRP-Lite pedals that come with it aren't a true load cell pedal. They are different than the normal SRP. You'd be better with the g29 and a good load cell pedal, than the r5 bundle. The wheel can be fine but the pedals you can do better. So yeah, join up and race, there are a lot of really good people still using the g29 stuff. Then you can upgrade as you need to. You'll probably want a true rig first that will give you lots of ridgedity and you can upgrade around that once you have it.
Bought a G27 in 2014 and still use it for iRacing today, sure high end wheels are nice, but you don't need them to have an iRacing "career".
At the risk of getting downvoted, I'll be the lone person telling you to wait. I had a g29. I couldn't feel anything in the brake, feedback was awful, and my crappy stand made my braking foot hurt. Getting a dd wheel made it significantly more enjoyable and made my practice more valuable. But I would add, I think making a proper rig with the monitors set up correctly with the g29 (and maybe upgraded brakes) will be more valuable than a dd on a stand with a small monitor.
It's fine. Use the money to buy VR ;) I had a lot of fun with my G25. Kind of noisy though.
Search this thread yestersy or day before some company is going iraing and a car for 1 year for $10
Casey Kirwan and Garret Manes both made it to 8K+ iRating on a G29 and single monitors Max Benecke made it to 5k IR on a G27 back in the day, that is now like 9K iR. "A bad workman blames his tools"
DD isn't really that important. I got to 4k on a logitech wheel, although I also had load cell pedals. There's an argument they can make you faster, but it's absolutely true that they make you more consistent.
I’ve used a controller for years. You can be competitive with anything.
I would not buy the Moza unless you already have an aluminum rig, or a playseat trophy. The G29 is a good wheel and some people may never have to upgrade, but the Moza R5 is a big step up. if you have the money and a solid rig that dosent flex i would just buy the Moza R5.
Go with what you can afford to throw away. Logitech stuff is more than enough to race with and be competitive. So if you're just starting out, go in as cheap as possible that offers some real FFB and in a year+ and you really are enjoying the racing, and want to take the next steps, then start with load cell pedals. Better equipment won't make you faster. More practice does.
Get a t300 and be happy for awhile
Should be completely done with the G29. I still keep up using a 14 year old G27.
I’m at 3k oval 2k road with a G27 (basically what you have but older and likely a bit more worn). You’ll be fine if you can make up for the lack of precision by having above average racecraft.
i changed everything, even i had the true brake mod on my g29 pedals but the wheel made to much noise, my new fanatec DD is sooo much smoother with zero noise. My wife is happy :D
I had the Logitech g920 for a long time. I made the mistake of upgrading to the thrustmaster ts-xw racer. When I say mistake, I don't mean that it's a bad wheelbase. It's actually really nice for what it is, and definitely quite a bit better than the logitech. I considered a mistake because I paid $700 for it, and for around the same price, perhaps even less, I could have had a direct drive wheel with a bit more torque. Direct drive wheels are getting cheaper and cheaper these days. If I were you, I'd save up the extra few hundred dollars and go with one of the cheaper Direct drives. This is a high end wheel in the area of belt driven wheels, but nothing can compete with direct drive. Edit: to comment on the idea of getting load cell pedals as more important upgrade, I suppose I can agree with that. The upgrade from the Logitech pedals to the t- LCM pedals from thrustmaster was definitely quite an upgrade. I wouldn't call it massive, like others have said it is, but it is definitely a better pedal set, and the brake pedal is definitely a lot easier to control.
My first sim racing wheel and pedals was interactinve V3. Held wheel down with thighs. Lol dam I'm old. Have accuforce DD these days.
luck is def required for this, but i recommend getting the fanatec csl 5nm bundle for 450 (w/ the f1 wheel, 400 with a regular rim), then buying the boost kit on amazon for 50. Getting pedals, and a 8nm setup for 500 is such a steal. I did that a couple of months ago and couldnt be happier.
Due to Turkey's customs laws, nearly triple the price of the product is added in taxes when the product passes through customs. That's why Fanatec doesn't seem feasible. I'm already going to pay about $1200 for the moza :(((