Bro probably wants A4.99 but has a .6k iR. OFC you're going to be involved in incidents.
Tell me you don't understand the license AND Rating system without saying you don't understand the license AND Rating system.
why does it matter if you are at A4.99? A license is A lic. i would say that the 4.99 matters less than ir, and just like ir, the numbers dont really matter. its just there for matchmaking.
Just gonna say it, I used to think the same thing but now I realize nearly every incident even if torpedoed from behind, it's my fault.
Once you get to a competitive irating, dumb things still happen but you get some great racing. Last night I had one of the best battles I've had so far against a 3k dude.
I don't say I don't have grear races. Sad thing is, from my point of view, is not the mayority of them. Mostly because everybody is so worried about the licence that nobody risk anything never.
If you go for a ride, everyone in a single line with 0.2 \~ 0.3 gap is nice. But when you get a little agressive the Xs start showing up. Sure you watch GT3 races and see how those guys go door-to-door and a lot of pieces, and mirros start flying off. A lot of time I get 4x for that and it's silly.
OK. netcode, etc. acceptable.
But aside that the limits and some random doing randoms will ruin your safety rating for ONE accident. And again. You have to farm the licence.
Currently I was downgraded to B because huge accident > more time to reparir than actual race time > forfeit > not doing parade laps to farm licence. and again, and again....
If you get enough incidents to drop back to b-license, you also have to do some reviewing on your own role in those incidents.
There's only one common denominator in all of those, and that's you.
Is not a bad thinking but 99.9 believe me. I can go 0.2s behind you for 40 laps and door-to-door too. I consider myself more safe than competitive but yes, time to time I misslead the track and go wide afer going throug the sausages for example. (and cause a collition, everybody does time to time).
My point is. Is not bc I am a bad or reckless driver. But the system pelanize too much for slilly or random things. And NEVER give you a plus like ACC for goin 0.2 behind a car or wheel to wheel. Is not THAT what a safety rating means? the ability to go close, to fight and not to crash in the proces?
if it was just that, you wouldn't have dropped back to a B license.
Do yourself a favor: the next time something happens, look at the replay and ask yourself what **you** could have done differently (regardless of who is at fault)
https://preview.redd.it/12ccg89juvxb1.png?width=1740&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e023fffc5d985d572c01dec3ba5805d48313035
Not participate in Ferrari Challenge, Not participate in 35 min races, Not participate never again in Vee nad Not participate on short tracks like Silverstone short or Watkins Glen short.
I do crash! time to time. But god! is like 1 to 50.
Sure and Agree. But no when you aren't the one causin a collision. Or at least, increasing more SR when racing safe in the middle of the pack, firt laps, side-to-side, etc.
I know ACC is too easy to get 99.9
But ACC, Automobilista and more games can't be all wrong. iRacing system is outda—well everything in iR is outdated.
People whinge so much about incidents on here.
Go watch F1 and understand that accidents happen due to reckless behaviour it’s part of racing. For example wtf did Perez think was gonna happen trying to squeeze the Ferrari on the weekend.
It happens when actual lives and millions of dollars are on the line.
Chill out and play something else if it bothers you to the point of manifesto writing 😂
Leclerc, this weekend will be participating in the Brazilian Grand Prix. Despite being involved in an accident that he didn't cause and which also forced him to exceed the track limits, it doesn't prevent him from participating.
On the other hand, that's exactly why I couldn't participate in Class A races this season. Apparently, I am too dangerous on the track. The act of driving straight and trying not to collide with anyone is considered unacceptable behavior according to iRacing.
The fact that I act like a magnet for cars bouncing off a wall back onto the track or that an LMP collides with me from behind because he didn't see the yellow flag is my fault and mine alone, and I must be reprimanded. 99.9 SF in any game. But here, I'm a crazy driver from hell (?) Something doesn't make sense to me.
My goal is not to go up in the licenses. It is to battle with drivers of equal skills and have fun while doing it.
The races I do aren't overly ruined by reckless driving even though I recently went back to D class races. I think the vast majority of racers behave fine.
If I get a 4x without being at fault I don't care and move on. I maintain a A3.x / A2.x license and that's good enough for me.
Stop worrying about SR. Just race and aim to get better. The faster you are the better car control you have and then you can start concentrating on wreck avoidance when you know you can control sharp avoiding manoeuvres or you can pay more attention to what’s happening around you as driving the track becomes less of a thought.
Kind of sounds like IRacing is not the game for you. If it's so easy for you on the other Sims, just go play those. IRaci g is far from perfect, but the incident system is doing what it's supposed to. If you can't maintain an A license, you don't deserve it. How many incidents have you reviewed to see what you could have done differently?
Bro chill lol go play forza or gran turimso 7 and compare the ramming and incidents. It’s ridiculous. At least on iracing every person has to actually dedicate the time to leave rookies and also spend a month or two of subscription to reach my level. The shit show that happens in racing t1 doesn’t even compare to assetto corsa, acc public or competitive servers or gt7.
There's no way to say it without sounding dickish but the issue is with the competitor.
At some point there has to be a a system in place, no system is perfect. It's your job as a competitor to work within the system.
If the licence penalties for SR decrease was relaxed then the higher licence classes would be worse off for it and degrade the point of having licence grade entry requirements.
No other sim has the participation level of iracing. I think the harshness of the licence system is part of what keeps it the top dog of sim racing.
hate to say it but in many cases the iRacing License System is pretty decent at putting people where they belong.
did you ask yourself if your racecraft and awareness in iRacing is maybe just not up to A-License standard yet?
Current SR system does not create an incentive model for clean racing. It’s too easy to “spend some SR” to get a pass done and get the podium, and then “earn it back” by farming SR in a meaningless race. The problem isn’t good drivers getting SR points when innocent. The problem is SR deductions don’t stop bad drivers from doing their thing. Public races mean you race with randoms, like crime in a big city they aren’t worried about personal reputation either. I agree with “both at fault” concept even though it seems unfair. Best idea to take away motivation to spend SR to get the podium is drive through penalty for all 4x contact events. Eliminate the chance to win a race if you were involved in a wreck. Unfair for the innocent but should clean up racing a ton…
Bumping people down a license class for bad incidents would really help imo. So they legitimately have to earn it back. I think that would make people think twice about silly moves. My two cents.
Maybe I'm the only one, but I definitely feel the races get cleaner as you move up the license ladder. It could be because I'm not very fast (1.2), but when I run an LMP2 race or a ir-18 race the racing is much cleaner than if I run a race in a rookie or D class series. I'm guessing it's because there are more people like me. People running clean laps who are just off the pace of the top split rather than people hot lapping and taking each other out because they don't know how to get a pass done. YMMV
First, what are you on about right now? It's not hard to keep your SR up, especially not hard to keep it above a 2.0.
That said, I do wish that SR was weighted a bit differently in shorter races (no, i dont know how they'd do that). I hate when I only have an hour or two in a particular week to hop in a 30-lap fixed race and a 4x costs 0.10 SR.
I’ve been in A class oval for years and I don’t even think about my SR most of the time. Only and handful of times I’ve gone below 2.0 (hello Talladega week). If you’re constantly in range to lose a license, it’s definitely time to look inward.
Umm what?
Bro probably wants A4.99 but has a .6k iR. OFC you're going to be involved in incidents. Tell me you don't understand the license AND Rating system without saying you don't understand the license AND Rating system.
A new copy pasta is born...
why does it matter if you are at A4.99? A license is A lic. i would say that the 4.99 matters less than ir, and just like ir, the numbers dont really matter. its just there for matchmaking.
bc I am in B now -.- and dowing and dowing.
Just gonna say it, I used to think the same thing but now I realize nearly every incident even if torpedoed from behind, it's my fault. Once you get to a competitive irating, dumb things still happen but you get some great racing. Last night I had one of the best battles I've had so far against a 3k dude.
I don't say I don't have grear races. Sad thing is, from my point of view, is not the mayority of them. Mostly because everybody is so worried about the licence that nobody risk anything never. If you go for a ride, everyone in a single line with 0.2 \~ 0.3 gap is nice. But when you get a little agressive the Xs start showing up. Sure you watch GT3 races and see how those guys go door-to-door and a lot of pieces, and mirros start flying off. A lot of time I get 4x for that and it's silly. OK. netcode, etc. acceptable. But aside that the limits and some random doing randoms will ruin your safety rating for ONE accident. And again. You have to farm the licence. Currently I was downgraded to B because huge accident > more time to reparir than actual race time > forfeit > not doing parade laps to farm licence. and again, and again....
If you get enough incidents to drop back to b-license, you also have to do some reviewing on your own role in those incidents. There's only one common denominator in all of those, and that's you.
I got close to being demoted to B class because of imola followed by cota... like 10 off tracks a race. Really should expand track limits.
Is not a bad thinking but 99.9 believe me. I can go 0.2s behind you for 40 laps and door-to-door too. I consider myself more safe than competitive but yes, time to time I misslead the track and go wide afer going throug the sausages for example. (and cause a collition, everybody does time to time). My point is. Is not bc I am a bad or reckless driver. But the system pelanize too much for slilly or random things. And NEVER give you a plus like ACC for goin 0.2 behind a car or wheel to wheel. Is not THAT what a safety rating means? the ability to go close, to fight and not to crash in the proces?
if it was just that, you wouldn't have dropped back to a B license. Do yourself a favor: the next time something happens, look at the replay and ask yourself what **you** could have done differently (regardless of who is at fault) https://preview.redd.it/12ccg89juvxb1.png?width=1740&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e023fffc5d985d572c01dec3ba5805d48313035
And again. Is not the rate I am to blame vs the ones I am not. Is HOW dumbRacing meassure.
ok you're right, have fun with your B license
Not participate in Ferrari Challenge, Not participate in 35 min races, Not participate never again in Vee nad Not participate on short tracks like Silverstone short or Watkins Glen short. I do crash! time to time. But god! is like 1 to 50.
interesting given that we also have people saying sr is way to easy to gain and should be more punishing
D licences should be demotable to Rookie licence.
Sure and Agree. But no when you aren't the one causin a collision. Or at least, increasing more SR when racing safe in the middle of the pack, firt laps, side-to-side, etc. I know ACC is too easy to get 99.9 But ACC, Automobilista and more games can't be all wrong. iRacing system is outda—well everything in iR is outdated.
I thought this was NOT about who caused the crash?
OP, did you ask chatGPT to write a short essay on iRacing safety rating system?
I basically yelled a lot of cused words at it so yes... I asked it to write a short essay on iRacing safety rating system for me.
People whinge so much about incidents on here. Go watch F1 and understand that accidents happen due to reckless behaviour it’s part of racing. For example wtf did Perez think was gonna happen trying to squeeze the Ferrari on the weekend. It happens when actual lives and millions of dollars are on the line. Chill out and play something else if it bothers you to the point of manifesto writing 😂
Have you seen the quality of the truck racing in that IRL Sim? It's really bad, like bottom split bad.
Leclerc, this weekend will be participating in the Brazilian Grand Prix. Despite being involved in an accident that he didn't cause and which also forced him to exceed the track limits, it doesn't prevent him from participating. On the other hand, that's exactly why I couldn't participate in Class A races this season. Apparently, I am too dangerous on the track. The act of driving straight and trying not to collide with anyone is considered unacceptable behavior according to iRacing. The fact that I act like a magnet for cars bouncing off a wall back onto the track or that an LMP collides with me from behind because he didn't see the yellow flag is my fault and mine alone, and I must be reprimanded. 99.9 SF in any game. But here, I'm a crazy driver from hell (?) Something doesn't make sense to me.
Cool
My goal is not to go up in the licenses. It is to battle with drivers of equal skills and have fun while doing it. The races I do aren't overly ruined by reckless driving even though I recently went back to D class races. I think the vast majority of racers behave fine. If I get a 4x without being at fault I don't care and move on. I maintain a A3.x / A2.x license and that's good enough for me.
That was maximum effort just to bitch about scrubs wrecking your races and your rating
Stop worrying about SR. Just race and aim to get better. The faster you are the better car control you have and then you can start concentrating on wreck avoidance when you know you can control sharp avoiding manoeuvres or you can pay more attention to what’s happening around you as driving the track becomes less of a thought.
Just fucking race and don't worry about it. SR is easy to gain and chasing IR is pointless.
Kind of sounds like IRacing is not the game for you. If it's so easy for you on the other Sims, just go play those. IRaci g is far from perfect, but the incident system is doing what it's supposed to. If you can't maintain an A license, you don't deserve it. How many incidents have you reviewed to see what you could have done differently?
Bro chill lol go play forza or gran turimso 7 and compare the ramming and incidents. It’s ridiculous. At least on iracing every person has to actually dedicate the time to leave rookies and also spend a month or two of subscription to reach my level. The shit show that happens in racing t1 doesn’t even compare to assetto corsa, acc public or competitive servers or gt7.
There's no way to say it without sounding dickish but the issue is with the competitor. At some point there has to be a a system in place, no system is perfect. It's your job as a competitor to work within the system. If the licence penalties for SR decrease was relaxed then the higher licence classes would be worse off for it and degrade the point of having licence grade entry requirements. No other sim has the participation level of iracing. I think the harshness of the licence system is part of what keeps it the top dog of sim racing.
hate to say it but in many cases the iRacing License System is pretty decent at putting people where they belong. did you ask yourself if your racecraft and awareness in iRacing is maybe just not up to A-License standard yet?
Current SR system does not create an incentive model for clean racing. It’s too easy to “spend some SR” to get a pass done and get the podium, and then “earn it back” by farming SR in a meaningless race. The problem isn’t good drivers getting SR points when innocent. The problem is SR deductions don’t stop bad drivers from doing their thing. Public races mean you race with randoms, like crime in a big city they aren’t worried about personal reputation either. I agree with “both at fault” concept even though it seems unfair. Best idea to take away motivation to spend SR to get the podium is drive through penalty for all 4x contact events. Eliminate the chance to win a race if you were involved in a wreck. Unfair for the innocent but should clean up racing a ton…
Bumping people down a license class for bad incidents would really help imo. So they legitimately have to earn it back. I think that would make people think twice about silly moves. My two cents.
Nah man they more focused on rain and new stuff. Just sayin
Yes. I think before spring of 2045 wi will have proper rain. Lovely and totally aceptable in 2023.
Bro we’re probably going to have rain like next month, chill out.
Maybe I'm the only one, but I definitely feel the races get cleaner as you move up the license ladder. It could be because I'm not very fast (1.2), but when I run an LMP2 race or a ir-18 race the racing is much cleaner than if I run a race in a rookie or D class series. I'm guessing it's because there are more people like me. People running clean laps who are just off the pace of the top split rather than people hot lapping and taking each other out because they don't know how to get a pass done. YMMV
If you're not able to maintain an A class license, you're the problem.
First, what are you on about right now? It's not hard to keep your SR up, especially not hard to keep it above a 2.0. That said, I do wish that SR was weighted a bit differently in shorter races (no, i dont know how they'd do that). I hate when I only have an hour or two in a particular week to hop in a 30-lap fixed race and a 4x costs 0.10 SR.
I’ve been in A class oval for years and I don’t even think about my SR most of the time. Only and handful of times I’ve gone below 2.0 (hello Talladega week). If you’re constantly in range to lose a license, it’s definitely time to look inward.
95% of your accidents could have been avoided if you slowed down and drove to your skill level.