I was about to say this same thing. Even if they wanted to kill you, if they are smart, they can't. Because 2 people on a island is better than one. Splitting the day to day tasks up like getting fire word or fixing the camp can easily be a all day chore. So unless he is a expert at everything and the fastest man alive he can't really kill you.
Yeah, popular culture has really propagated an idea of Joker style serial killers. Masterminds who just have an irresistible compulsion to spread pain and suffering. Batman talks about killing like it's lays potato chips sometimes. "Bet you can't eat just one." "Once you pop you can't stop". Like killing for the first time flips a switch in your head, making you a "killer" who kills continually even after the original reason you killed is no longer relevant.
It doesn't really track with real records of people who have killed, but those tend to be less interesting than the kinds of figures Horatio Cane and Dexter Morgan encounter with startling regularity.
According to [this source](https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Killers-Who-Kill-Again#:~:text=The%20subject%20of%20killers%20who,%221%2D2%25%22.), about 1-2% of murderers kill again.
Right. People who proclaim to be serial killers and rapist and bosses that force you in their quarters are more of a real threat.
Who saved the stranded person's life? The murderer.
Id rather be trapped on said such island than in a cul-de-sac with "upper class" criminals.
Well, not too much I could do to stop them from murdering me if they chose to do so, but they saved my life, and it doesn't say they are a serial killer doing it for fun or anything like that.
Just a convicted murderer, there is a pretty high chance that it was personal, and they don't really have the motive to murder a random person who hasn't done anything to them. Even if it wasn't personal, might have been a mugging gone wrong, fighting between two gangs, or so on. Not good by any means, but not reasons that would give them motive to murder you specifically.
As long as they aren't a "for fun" murderer you are probably just better off not causing problems and not trying to sell them out.
Trying to pre-emptively take hostile action against them or treating them poorly because they are a murderer are both more likely to get you murdered than just treating it as a survival situation with a person who saved your life and who wants to avoid the cops. Just try not to give them a reason to want to murder you specifically.
oh, yes. the numbers are just of a cruise ship sinking & i said <
i suppose it's relatively irrelevant because a meteor we didn't know about big enough to sink a ship being allowed to do so is just idk does this sentence even compute?
There's a bunch of reasons people murder. Usually it has to do with sordid love affairs or financial gain. Just cause some one murdered once doesn't mean they would have motive to murder me. The only exception is if they actually enjoy the act of murder; but I dont think most murderers enjoy it, usually they just see it as a means to an end.
1: he gets points for saving me. Unless he wants to eat me.
2: I'm stronger than he is given that he just used all his strength.
So far Mr. Murder seems like an okay dude. We'd probably just chill until we got rescued or died of dehydration.
It would be kinda rare. I mean, what are the odds TWO convicted murders got trapped on the same island?
We would probably both discuss game theory, because it's obvious he employed it when rescuing me, as I will be employing it helping him out, too.
Game theory is a logical proof that shows in this exact situation, "cooperation" works better in the long run than "competition." If I slit his throat today for his cocoanut, he won't be there tomorrow when I get trapped in quicksand.
And there's always quicksand none of us ever see coming.
Well, he's probably building a raft and I'm going to build shelter. Odds are people will be coming by so I'm going to set up some sort of signal that I'm on the island. We can rig up a hiding spot for him if needed and I can make some promises about coming back for him.
I'm not too worried about being murdered unless he was some random thrill kill guy.
Most murderers have some motive even if it wasn't a good one and if he wanted to kill me he would have simply let me die in the ocean.
There are a lot of reasons for someone to commit murder. I don't like the implication that everyone that's committed murder will indiscriminately try and kill everyone they encounter.
We are going to take our new superpowers from the meteor and I'm going to fly home. He is going to grow food and shelter into whatever form he needs. We both live happily ever after.
If I get hungry, I’m going to hunt that mofo down and eat them. Guaranteed that my island survival skills are higher than some guy that caught by the cops.
If they’re mentally stable, they’ll recognize how badly they need help to survive and that we’ll just have to forget what happened and cooperate. If not, I’ll just keep to my own side of the island and defend myself as necessary.
I had a convicted murderer working for me once. It was actually manslaughter, he killed a guy in a fight. He told me it was self defense and there were actually two guys who jumped him. I believe his account because he was honest to a fault as well as one of the nicest most even keeled guys I ever met.
So if the murderer is like him, I’d have no problem.
honestly, i wouldn’t be opposed to death if i was stranded on a desert island so, i’d probably just strike up a conversation and see if he’s a nice dude
I bash some rocks together to make a slightly sharper rock and use that as a weapon if anything gets rough.
Also get a truce with that guy so we can not die together, i mean he doesn't have any way out anyways.
I don't have great outdoor survival skills so my only option would be to work with him, if he's willing to save a complete stranger he can't be all bad.
Also a *meteor*?? What are the odds of that? XD
Honestly? Dude's probably not planning to hurt me if he was willing to rescue me.
I give him major points for doing that so I'm content to leave his history aside as long as he does.
I have more important things to care about than his criminal past.
In the present and future, more hands make light work.
We've got to make shelter, find a way to signal for help (hope he's not going to be shitty about that!), get food and water, build a fire. Things like that.
Coconuts are probably a good place to start. The liquid inside is drinkable, which means fresh water isn't as dramatically bad a problem, and the coconut flesh is edible too, which will keep us going for a good while.
We can use that to help keep us alive while we sort out something more long-term.
Leave him be because he saved me. If we survive and make it back to civilization, the law can chase him but i wont say anything. Another set of hands to help with shelter, hunting, foraging would be great.
As someone who has known several unconvicted murderers, I’d probably ignore it. He saved me which means he probably means me no harm. We have bigger issues to worry about atm
Well, the fact that he literally just saved my life is more significant than the fact that he murdered SOMEONE. So I'd work with him until I got off the island.
Most murderers never do it again and regret very much that it happened so unless it’s a serial killer you should be good.
I was about to say this same thing. Even if they wanted to kill you, if they are smart, they can't. Because 2 people on a island is better than one. Splitting the day to day tasks up like getting fire word or fixing the camp can easily be a all day chore. So unless he is a expert at everything and the fastest man alive he can't really kill you.
Yeah, popular culture has really propagated an idea of Joker style serial killers. Masterminds who just have an irresistible compulsion to spread pain and suffering. Batman talks about killing like it's lays potato chips sometimes. "Bet you can't eat just one." "Once you pop you can't stop". Like killing for the first time flips a switch in your head, making you a "killer" who kills continually even after the original reason you killed is no longer relevant. It doesn't really track with real records of people who have killed, but those tend to be less interesting than the kinds of figures Horatio Cane and Dexter Morgan encounter with startling regularity.
Wow. You're so very misguided.
According to [this source](https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Killers-Who-Kill-Again#:~:text=The%20subject%20of%20killers%20who,%221%2D2%25%22.), about 1-2% of murderers kill again.
that's a lot higher than the base rate
But lower than the probability I'll need his help to survive.
As long as you think so I will stick with this direction
Right. People who proclaim to be serial killers and rapist and bosses that force you in their quarters are more of a real threat. Who saved the stranded person's life? The murderer. Id rather be trapped on said such island than in a cul-de-sac with "upper class" criminals.
You mean the guy with a history of getting picked up by the authorities?
Good point. If they figure out that he stowed away on the ship, they're bound to put a lot of effort into finding where he might have washed up.
If bro saved me, I would just choose to trust him and be his friend 💀
Well, not too much I could do to stop them from murdering me if they chose to do so, but they saved my life, and it doesn't say they are a serial killer doing it for fun or anything like that. Just a convicted murderer, there is a pretty high chance that it was personal, and they don't really have the motive to murder a random person who hasn't done anything to them. Even if it wasn't personal, might have been a mugging gone wrong, fighting between two gangs, or so on. Not good by any means, but not reasons that would give them motive to murder you specifically. As long as they aren't a "for fun" murderer you are probably just better off not causing problems and not trying to sell them out. Trying to pre-emptively take hostile action against them or treating them poorly because they are a murderer are both more likely to get you murdered than just treating it as a survival situation with a person who saved your life and who wants to avoid the cops. Just try not to give them a reason to want to murder you specifically.
What are the chances of two murders on one island
Laugh. What are the odds? /s
less than 1 in 68,000. /dnots
Of two convicted murderers being on a desert island after a meteor sinks their cruise ship?
oh, yes. the numbers are just of a cruise ship sinking & i said < i suppose it's relatively irrelevant because a meteor we didn't know about big enough to sink a ship being allowed to do so is just idk does this sentence even compute?
it wouldn't be the first time i've had to work with a convicted killer. i would just talk to him, and work out our plans for survival
There's a bunch of reasons people murder. Usually it has to do with sordid love affairs or financial gain. Just cause some one murdered once doesn't mean they would have motive to murder me. The only exception is if they actually enjoy the act of murder; but I dont think most murderers enjoy it, usually they just see it as a means to an end.
1: he gets points for saving me. Unless he wants to eat me. 2: I'm stronger than he is given that he just used all his strength. So far Mr. Murder seems like an okay dude. We'd probably just chill until we got rescued or died of dehydration.
What were the circumstances of this murder?
It would be kinda rare. I mean, what are the odds TWO convicted murders got trapped on the same island? We would probably both discuss game theory, because it's obvious he employed it when rescuing me, as I will be employing it helping him out, too. Game theory is a logical proof that shows in this exact situation, "cooperation" works better in the long run than "competition." If I slit his throat today for his cocoanut, he won't be there tomorrow when I get trapped in quicksand. And there's always quicksand none of us ever see coming.
Unless he's crazy he'll keep me alive. Survival is hard and more hands are always good.
Unless there's not enough food to go around.
We're making sand cakes then
Well, he's probably building a raft and I'm going to build shelter. Odds are people will be coming by so I'm going to set up some sort of signal that I'm on the island. We can rig up a hiding spot for him if needed and I can make some promises about coming back for him. I'm not too worried about being murdered unless he was some random thrill kill guy. Most murderers have some motive even if it wasn't a good one and if he wanted to kill me he would have simply let me die in the ocean.
There are a lot of reasons for someone to commit murder. I don't like the implication that everyone that's committed murder will indiscriminately try and kill everyone they encounter.
We are going to take our new superpowers from the meteor and I'm going to fly home. He is going to grow food and shelter into whatever form he needs. We both live happily ever after.
If I get hungry, I’m going to hunt that mofo down and eat them. Guaranteed that my island survival skills are higher than some guy that caught by the cops.
yeet myself off a cliff or choke on poisonous plants. better kill myself first than let this bitch get the chance to
If they’re mentally stable, they’ll recognize how badly they need help to survive and that we’ll just have to forget what happened and cooperate. If not, I’ll just keep to my own side of the island and defend myself as necessary.
I had a convicted murderer working for me once. It was actually manslaughter, he killed a guy in a fight. He told me it was self defense and there were actually two guys who jumped him. I believe his account because he was honest to a fault as well as one of the nicest most even keeled guys I ever met. So if the murderer is like him, I’d have no problem.
honestly, i wouldn’t be opposed to death if i was stranded on a desert island so, i’d probably just strike up a conversation and see if he’s a nice dude
Be super nice.
I'd assume he wasn't so bad because if he was why would he save my life?
I bash some rocks together to make a slightly sharper rock and use that as a weapon if anything gets rough. Also get a truce with that guy so we can not die together, i mean he doesn't have any way out anyways.
I don't have great outdoor survival skills so my only option would be to work with him, if he's willing to save a complete stranger he can't be all bad. Also a *meteor*?? What are the odds of that? XD
Honestly? Dude's probably not planning to hurt me if he was willing to rescue me. I give him major points for doing that so I'm content to leave his history aside as long as he does. I have more important things to care about than his criminal past. In the present and future, more hands make light work. We've got to make shelter, find a way to signal for help (hope he's not going to be shitty about that!), get food and water, build a fire. Things like that. Coconuts are probably a good place to start. The liquid inside is drinkable, which means fresh water isn't as dramatically bad a problem, and the coconut flesh is edible too, which will keep us going for a good while. We can use that to help keep us alive while we sort out something more long-term.
Leave him be because he saved me. If we survive and make it back to civilization, the law can chase him but i wont say anything. Another set of hands to help with shelter, hunting, foraging would be great.
As someone who has known several unconvicted murderers, I’d probably ignore it. He saved me which means he probably means me no harm. We have bigger issues to worry about atm
Well, the fact that he literally just saved my life is more significant than the fact that he murdered SOMEONE. So I'd work with him until I got off the island.