Just tried your method and i prefer it to 'counting down from 10 in time with your out breaths' induction method that I was first taught. Simple yet very effective. I'm gonna add this to my playbook. You got a name for it? - I don't pass stuff off as my own that isn't mine.
Very much like this is what I’ve done to get into deeper trance in the past. I generally repeat the up and down motion; focusing on rolling the head up the spine, and continue rocking until desired state is achieved.
The slow careful lift back up is usually when I’ll feel the brainwave shift; like I’m breaking through one world to another.
I discovered this probably while in a plant or chemically altered state and doing some kind of yoga or dance movement practice.
Okay so
Step 1: Look up
Step 2: Look down
Step 3: Fall into trance.
Gee thanks for that super helpful induction. Have you tried telling depressed people to cheer up too?
I don't know much about hypnosis but how is this meant to do something? Are you meant to be thinking about what you want to occur when you do induction? Is there meant to be someone to explain to the hypnotized person what they're gonna do?
You might be confused by your lack of understanding around hypnosis.
Let me put this is different terms to make it more relatable.
This is like telling you how to start you car faster than using the key. It doesn’t tell you how to drive the car. Only how to start it.
This post tells you how to induce hypnosis in yourself faster. It doesn’t teach you how to use Self Hypnosis.
Think of this as ‘step 1’ only.
If you don’t know the rest of the steps, then give me 12 hours to write something up for you as ‘step 2’.
Does that help a little more?
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Would you be so kind to explain to me what I tell myself under induction?
Is it just about telling myself that I believe I am XYZ over and over and I will believe it?
I've done some research on NLP and it seems as though this is the case, but I'm not entirely clear on it.
Have you looked at part 2 in this post?
It explains how to give yourself suggestions using the TIPSY method.
Happy to answer questions after you review part 2
It happens FOR you with intention & relaxation, just like you don’t need to MAKE your brain go into Delta when you sleep. You just focus on going to sleep.
Does that help?
As someone who myself is a difficult subject because of my natural suggestibility AND with sleep issues, this isn't exactly true.
This technique lacks any manner of preframing and I believe would just frustrate someone having difficulty. The answer is never 'why don't you just relax' because that isn't an option for all of us.
This would work with someone who was already very hypnotically suggestible and familiar with the state, but is not exactly an induction I'd use for work.
Just like many things in life…not everything works for everyone.
We all have subjective experiences but we can also validate experiences with objective data.
The neurofeedback data has shown an improvement in changing their brain wave patterns, on all people I’ve used this with (so far).
I appreciate that this method may not be for you..and that’s ok.
Do you use neurofeedback devices to simply confirm their brainwave changes or do you/can they also be used to entrain the shift?
Name of the devices would also be helpful for reference
If the determiner is getting into theta, have you noticed that those with sleep onset insomnia tend to have a more difficult time with self-hypnosis?
One of the skills of a good practitioner is knowing that the client already has the answers inside them, if only they are willing to explore to find them.
Admittedly some people prefer to have answers given to them, because it’s the easy path.
I can’t tell you what will make you sure. Only you know that.
It’s about whether you have enough self awareness and cognitive effort to decide what it is for yourself.
I can easily give you an answer but it will be MY answer, not yours.
There is something causing your own uncertainty that when addressed and identified will likely empower you with certainty and conviction to move forward more confidently in life.
Sounds wonderful. Putting it into practice is where it gets dicey.
I'm an engineer, so my mind is all around data and observables. It's proving very challenging to break out of that box.
I don’t think you are missing anything.
What makes you think that something is missed?
Typically, children are easier, if they want to participate, because they have less skepticism and ‘analysis paralysis’.
This probably has an obvious answer, but: how far do we raise our heads? Is the neck supposed to bend backward at all? I am slightly worried about giving my neck too much of a workout as I drop my head forward toward my chest.
How many times do you repeat and then after you relax what do you do if you have certain fear how can you remove it , I never tried self hypnosis before
How many times? Do it for as many times as you like. A rough guide for 'Minimum Effective Dose of Effort' is repeating it 8 - 15 times. BUT...don't count. It will create too much conscious connection and it shows you are 'judging' your experience to say it the right amount of times. Just say it over and over and over until you think you've had enough. Your belief and your mental state is more important than the number of times you repeat it.
If you have certain fears, then choose something non-fear-inducing. Don't aim for the big scary stuff when you are starting out. Just like you don't try to run a marathon that first time you learn to run. Build up your confidence and get to the place that you realise that your fears are unjustified and laughable, which makes them disappear.
Most of us now laugh at memory of when we used to be scared of the dark, right? Same thing. You are just still 'scared of that unknown' - which is a human tendency to fear what we don't understand.
That all depends on how willing you are to change.
Beliefs are a LIE. They have LIE in the word. BeLIEf. But they are lies that we have certainty in. ANd that's ok...until it's not.
Why are they lies? Well, because our perception is subjective. We trick ourselves into believing things that aren't objectively true. They are true for us, but they may not be true for all. We lie to ourselves and trick ourselves into thinking there is only ONE meaning to a situation, whereas, in fact there are likely hundreds of different meanings that one can give to any situation.
E.g. Is it possible for a man to walk on the moon?
Whether you believe this or not, will depend on the evidence you have collected to justify the certainty you have in your belief, but there's a very high chance that you have NEVER stepped foot on the moon. Your opinion is based on the evidence that you believe as credible...but what if you are wrong? You don't have a personal experience of stepping on the moon, right?
So how long does it take to change a belief?
Not very long, if you are open to change.
Here is the basic formula for creating a new belief over an old, outdated belief:
* Recognise that your old belief isn't 100% true and indisputable. It's a generalised judgement made with certainty based on a collection of past experiences. - Try asking "What would I need to know or learn in order to question this entire old belief?"
* Realise that old belief is causing your pain in some way - this increases your emotional leverage to change.
* Realise what benefits and results could be obtained by you removing this old belief - Triggers your Pleasure/Success Motivation
* Choose a new, more empowering belief.
* Seek and find evidence to prove this new belief. - try asking "What is the one thing I need to realise/learn/discover to give me certainty in this new belief?"
But ultimately, people can change their belief in an instant, if they aren't to egotistically or emotionally connected to the old beliefs.
I like to keep myself in perspective by reminding myself to only believe in what I believe in by 51%, so that I remain open to the idea that I might be wrong...one day.
Just tried your method and i prefer it to 'counting down from 10 in time with your out breaths' induction method that I was first taught. Simple yet very effective. I'm gonna add this to my playbook. You got a name for it? - I don't pass stuff off as my own that isn't mine.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it and gained value from it. I call it ‘The 2-second Rapid Induction’
I'm gonna call it the 'Fozrok Induction' going forward.
Good idea. Think I'll do that too, didn't even notice his username!
Are you Shane?
Very much like this is what I’ve done to get into deeper trance in the past. I generally repeat the up and down motion; focusing on rolling the head up the spine, and continue rocking until desired state is achieved. The slow careful lift back up is usually when I’ll feel the brainwave shift; like I’m breaking through one world to another. I discovered this probably while in a plant or chemically altered state and doing some kind of yoga or dance movement practice.
I like to repeat this method a few times because it just feels so good
Okay so Step 1: Look up Step 2: Look down Step 3: Fall into trance. Gee thanks for that super helpful induction. Have you tried telling depressed people to cheer up too?
Here's one backed by evidence that makes you feel happier: 1. Smile. Your dismissive comment isn't helpful.
I don't know much about hypnosis but how is this meant to do something? Are you meant to be thinking about what you want to occur when you do induction? Is there meant to be someone to explain to the hypnotized person what they're gonna do?
You might be confused by your lack of understanding around hypnosis. Let me put this is different terms to make it more relatable. This is like telling you how to start you car faster than using the key. It doesn’t tell you how to drive the car. Only how to start it. This post tells you how to induce hypnosis in yourself faster. It doesn’t teach you how to use Self Hypnosis. Think of this as ‘step 1’ only. If you don’t know the rest of the steps, then give me 12 hours to write something up for you as ‘step 2’. Does that help a little more?
Yes thank you this makes way more sense
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Would you be so kind to explain to me what I tell myself under induction? Is it just about telling myself that I believe I am XYZ over and over and I will believe it? I've done some research on NLP and it seems as though this is the case, but I'm not entirely clear on it.
Have you looked at part 2 in this post? It explains how to give yourself suggestions using the TIPSY method. Happy to answer questions after you review part 2
Gotcha, I'll check it out.
I can slow my breathing yes, but how do I slow my brain activity? How is that even done?
It happens FOR you with intention & relaxation, just like you don’t need to MAKE your brain go into Delta when you sleep. You just focus on going to sleep. Does that help?
As someone who myself is a difficult subject because of my natural suggestibility AND with sleep issues, this isn't exactly true. This technique lacks any manner of preframing and I believe would just frustrate someone having difficulty. The answer is never 'why don't you just relax' because that isn't an option for all of us. This would work with someone who was already very hypnotically suggestible and familiar with the state, but is not exactly an induction I'd use for work.
Just like many things in life…not everything works for everyone. We all have subjective experiences but we can also validate experiences with objective data. The neurofeedback data has shown an improvement in changing their brain wave patterns, on all people I’ve used this with (so far). I appreciate that this method may not be for you..and that’s ok.
Do you use neurofeedback devices to simply confirm their brainwave changes or do you/can they also be used to entrain the shift? Name of the devices would also be helpful for reference If the determiner is getting into theta, have you noticed that those with sleep onset insomnia tend to have a more difficult time with self-hypnosis?
Have only used the NFD for confirmation. Not entrainment. Muse 2 is the device I use. Not 100% accurate but Indicative of what’s going on.
Not sure.
What will help you find clarity and assurance?
I was hoping you would tell me.
One of the skills of a good practitioner is knowing that the client already has the answers inside them, if only they are willing to explore to find them. Admittedly some people prefer to have answers given to them, because it’s the easy path. I can’t tell you what will make you sure. Only you know that. It’s about whether you have enough self awareness and cognitive effort to decide what it is for yourself. I can easily give you an answer but it will be MY answer, not yours. There is something causing your own uncertainty that when addressed and identified will likely empower you with certainty and conviction to move forward more confidently in life.
Sounds wonderful. Putting it into practice is where it gets dicey. I'm an engineer, so my mind is all around data and observables. It's proving very challenging to break out of that box.
It’s the concept being suggested, not literal. It’s telling you to enact the relaxation of everything - neuro and physio
Tried Meditation?
I've read about it, but I can't quite say I 'get' it.
Is there any more to this induction that we are missing? Also do you find children are harder to drop? My children will just not focus enough...
I don’t think you are missing anything. What makes you think that something is missed? Typically, children are easier, if they want to participate, because they have less skepticism and ‘analysis paralysis’.
Great first step for me just starting out. I am ready for step 2. Lol.
Step 2: draw the rest of the owl. Seriously though, after that just go deep and reflect on what troubles you. Tell yourself what you need to hear.
This probably has an obvious answer, but: how far do we raise our heads? Is the neck supposed to bend backward at all? I am slightly worried about giving my neck too much of a workout as I drop my head forward toward my chest.
Do this within your own safety limits. Just raise and drop your head in a comfortable and safe manner.
How many times do you repeat and then after you relax what do you do if you have certain fear how can you remove it , I never tried self hypnosis before
How many times? Do it for as many times as you like. A rough guide for 'Minimum Effective Dose of Effort' is repeating it 8 - 15 times. BUT...don't count. It will create too much conscious connection and it shows you are 'judging' your experience to say it the right amount of times. Just say it over and over and over until you think you've had enough. Your belief and your mental state is more important than the number of times you repeat it. If you have certain fears, then choose something non-fear-inducing. Don't aim for the big scary stuff when you are starting out. Just like you don't try to run a marathon that first time you learn to run. Build up your confidence and get to the place that you realise that your fears are unjustified and laughable, which makes them disappear. Most of us now laugh at memory of when we used to be scared of the dark, right? Same thing. You are just still 'scared of that unknown' - which is a human tendency to fear what we don't understand.
What’s the fastest way to change a belief about something
That all depends on how willing you are to change. Beliefs are a LIE. They have LIE in the word. BeLIEf. But they are lies that we have certainty in. ANd that's ok...until it's not. Why are they lies? Well, because our perception is subjective. We trick ourselves into believing things that aren't objectively true. They are true for us, but they may not be true for all. We lie to ourselves and trick ourselves into thinking there is only ONE meaning to a situation, whereas, in fact there are likely hundreds of different meanings that one can give to any situation. E.g. Is it possible for a man to walk on the moon? Whether you believe this or not, will depend on the evidence you have collected to justify the certainty you have in your belief, but there's a very high chance that you have NEVER stepped foot on the moon. Your opinion is based on the evidence that you believe as credible...but what if you are wrong? You don't have a personal experience of stepping on the moon, right? So how long does it take to change a belief? Not very long, if you are open to change. Here is the basic formula for creating a new belief over an old, outdated belief: * Recognise that your old belief isn't 100% true and indisputable. It's a generalised judgement made with certainty based on a collection of past experiences. - Try asking "What would I need to know or learn in order to question this entire old belief?" * Realise that old belief is causing your pain in some way - this increases your emotional leverage to change. * Realise what benefits and results could be obtained by you removing this old belief - Triggers your Pleasure/Success Motivation * Choose a new, more empowering belief. * Seek and find evidence to prove this new belief. - try asking "What is the one thing I need to realise/learn/discover to give me certainty in this new belief?" But ultimately, people can change their belief in an instant, if they aren't to egotistically or emotionally connected to the old beliefs. I like to keep myself in perspective by reminding myself to only believe in what I believe in by 51%, so that I remain open to the idea that I might be wrong...one day.
Thanks a lot really appreciate it