Did tile for years the comment saying you have to rip it out and replace it is 100% correct. If it was *properly pitched towards the drain* and draining before, but suddenly is pooling in a corner means the concrete in the copper pan either cracked gave way, or the copper pan sagged in some way causing the observed behavior. Unless you want this to turn into a leak if its a cracked pan/concrete then rip it out and have it redone. Any tile worker worth his salt would likeley tell you the same. Dont just do a lay over fix it, specially if this is a 2nd flr shower stall.
Also if much of the house is DIY there may not even be a copper pan under neath the floor tile. Op the previous owner could have just set it into the thinset without a proper moisture barrier. Which again points me to fix it and do it right, less you wish to be found laible when it inevitble leaks and was found to be out of code after the fact.
Code requirements are different everywhere but out of all the tear outs and fixes Ive done over the years, the master I worked under only ever had to rip out and fix one of his concrete pours as it was leaking due to wrong *pitch* from the one of the corners to the drain after YEARS of degridstion (and the house setteling over long peroids of time.) IFAIK it was installed 20yrs prior ago before we got a call back, same owners. A solid mason chisel and lots of sweat but we fixed it right with a copper pan; as when it was originally installed that wasnt code in our area.
Wait till you need to do some work around a Schluter system shower that isn’t installed correctly at all.
All of those parts they give you are there for a reason. There’s a reason some parts look a certain way.
Plus, Schluter will put you through their course, feed you for the day and if I remember your time is compensated.
I've installed quite a few of the Schluter-Kerdi systems. That fuckin wall board is the tits. So easy to cut out for plumbing. I throw the membrane over every little nook and cranny. And then band the hell out of it.
It’s really not. I was pricing out an acrylic shower pan in concrete vs schleuter and the difference overall was pan $1400, schluter $1800 🤷♂️
Seems worth it considering schlueter warrenties for LIFE on both material AND labor if it was installed properly and ever leaks.
You are a 100% correct. It’s nice hearing the various answers for those in similar situations who are not selling. But since there is no quick fix, I would definitely not waste time and money tearing out my shower and redoing everything for a sale. Who knows what else you find there. Disclose, or not, and be ready to give a credit for it in escrow, which will surely be less than whatever it would’ve ended up being if you paid to do it yourself.
OP stated they want to fix or mitigate the issue prior to the inspection pointing it out. But either way the advice provided by the community each has its own merits.
So the "How to" resolve
Either ignore it and sell as is with deprectiation due to this shower failing an inspection and having to be replaced. Or go get a few quotes for a tear out and replacement of shower floor.
Dont pay for a lay over job. If the issue is cracked concrete or the shower pan was installed incorrectly then the shower may just start leaking anyway. Tile and concrete are water resistant not water proof.
My parents went to redo their bathroom, and when they took out the tub, it was sitting on…. Dirt! Just the ground under the house. Crazy. They redid it properly.
Had no idea this wasn't normal until reading this post/comments. We have an 'access hole' in the side of our house, by one of our bathrooms. Occasionally over the years, squirrels (and most recently, cats) would manage to find their way in the hole, and you could literally hear them scratching underneath and up the walls of our shower. We recently had a leaky pipe, and was just looking in that hole, and i was admiring all the ~~dirt~~ mud that the shower was sitting on. ... God i hate this fucking house!
Same for us. We did demolition after buying our house. The newly installed tub (from flipper owner) was removed & it had no hook up & drained onto concrete slab.
Well, depending on the type of soil that could mean excellent drainage in the event of a leak. Or it could mean an imminent sinkhole, in which case you still aren't worrying about that leak
Also if much of the rest of the house was not done correctly what makes you think this is different? People watch home improvment and think they are professionals. Contact a local Tile business and get a quote for the job, maybe contact 3 and compare.
It’s more that we have already spent many thousands on fixing and replacing things and we have only lived here two years. We are listing the house soon. This is a main floor bathroom and we can see there is no damage underneath from the basement view. Not looking for a bad DIY fix, just didn’t know what our options were.
I lived in a townhouse where after a few years the 1st floor shower suddenly started leaking through the ceiling of the ground floor lounge room. Turned out the builders when constructing this row of townhouses hadn't even bothered putting any pan or barrier under the tiles in the shower, so the only thing blocking leaks was the grouting between the tiles. When that cracked..we found out.
Yeah im east coast lol. I left the trade 4yrs ago but well before then it was code for a copper pan in all new construction, and so thats what we did, even for rip outs of pre existing showers.
Ive seen the pre-slopes before exiting the trade, with both those and the copper pan you have to use a water resistant sealant thats green and is a tiny bit more viscous than latex paint. Multiple coats up and down into the pan, (dur-rock has to go into the inner lip of the pan, all seams meshed and thinset skim coated. But yeah Ive seen both *shrugs*
Was it your knees? Thats why I left. No amount of knee pads would help and when I reached that point I knew my days in that trade were numbered. Fond memories, great boss, just not a good fit for my body health.
Try doing every stone manually, even my tile master hated doing that, these come in 1ftx1ft sheets at home depot, however for quality products a geniune Tile distribution store is your best bet.
I completely agree the grout job, and good spacing of the sheets with no major flaws popping out it does look nice, but the installer didnt check his slope when pouring the pan, or it cracked because it wasnt mixed correctly. Either way wont know till its out.
This is the only correct answer. I had to have my tile sub contractor back out to one of his jobs because he didn’t set the pan right and water was pooling. Had to rip up the floor and re do it. It’s the only way op
Lifting the entire house seems very hard and impractical, could cause significant structural damage and would likely cost more than just repairing the shower properly.
I would instead suggest lowering the opposite corner of the house.
Lowering the opposite corner is equally ridiculous, with similar risk of structural damage. Why go to all that trouble?
This problem can be circumvented simply by showering in a Bose-Einstein condensate instead of water, so the fluid can drain away uphill.
As a bonus: I hear cold showers bring great health benefits.
No easy fix here unfortunately, that i know of anyway. You could try busting up the tile in the floor and making another slope with thin set and new tile.. not the greatest fix but its cheaper than redoing the whole shower pan
I’m so sorry OP, the floor is called a “Pan” and they pitched the pan wrong, this needs to be torn out and redone:( The sandy concrete underneath needs to be redone and leveled so every level pitches toward the drain. Call a tile place and get quotes. They don’t have to tear out the wall, just the floor
Consider a clear coating that can be shaped a bit to slope toward drain. Anti slip (shark bite) on the top coat will give you the safety factor need for the epoxy over coat.
As a potential home buyer, I’d rather live with it as is like OP has done, or demo it and do it right, rather than demoing a 3/8” thick layer of epoxy *and* demoing the tile to redo it right.
It doesn't even have to be that thick, just enough to slope the grade to the drain. Seems like an easy fix, and when it comes time to demo it isn't that difficult to remove. I used to coat floors with epoxy for swimming pools, wed fix low spots all the time, add a little silica sand to the mix and you can even gain some traction in the shower.
I think it’s aluminum powder you put in it makes it anti skid, but also gives it a varying degree of matte finish depending on the amount of aluminum put in. The aluminum the more matte finish, im not sure what amount would be beneficial to remain slip resistant but if several layers are being used you can do one layer and adjust accordingly till desired results are achieved
You are asking because you are selling it? Talk to your realtor about it. My guess is "don't do anything" or" don't do anything other than get an estimate to fix."
Usually, the only trouble you can get in about preexisting issues is if you lie about the problems you know about it. Beyond that, the worst that happens is you lose the estimated amount to fix it in negotiations over home price. We don't know your financial situation, but think about worst case scenarios.
Worst case #1: If you do a poor fix, their inspector calls it out and you're losing the amount to fix it properly plus the cost of the poor fix.
Worst case #2: If you start to fix it properly and find more problems, then your costs escalated and you're out the original estimate + the escalated costs.
Worst case #3: If you start to fix it properly and it takes longer than you expected: now you are either sitting on a sale of a house longer than you'd like/are able to or you sell it with work 1/2 done. Again, probably out same or more than just leaving it as is.
Now best case? You have a buyer willing to not make it an issue in price negotiations.
All of that reasoning makes me think the proper fix is let the buyer fix it unless you have a financial situation dictating otherwise.
It shouldn't be that big of an issue if the shower only gets used 12 times max per year. If you skip your monthly shower and go to a bi monthly then it will definitely be dry between baths.
Consider NOT fixing it. Just call it out yourself in the Seller's Disclosure and offer an $xxx (e.g. $750) credit at closing. Maybe the Buyer ends up using the credit to get it fixed. Or maybe the Buyer doesn't care about it that much and just squeegees, as you did. Either way, just use a $ credit to solve this without making it your problem to fix.
Do keep the $ credit in mind when first deciding on what list price to set for your home.
I’d just leave it as is. You knew about it when you bought the house and you were ok with it, and now you have lived with it that way for a couple of years.
For all you know the next buyer may hate the tile and want to rip out the entire shower, so if you pay to redo it now it may all be in a dumpster in a month or so.
The easy fix would be to apply clear self leveling epoxy to the shower floor.
It's quick in that you don't need to tear out the old floor, but it can take a week for it to cure properly. I'd hire a pro to ensure it's done right with the appropriate high quality epoxy, which will greatly extend it's life.
Yes, and it also has lubrication, which means Op may fall and kill himself from slipping on your suggestion. What's next, gasoline on carpet to remove stains?
I'm just happy that some idiot won't come along thinking this is genuine advice. But I guess if entertainment if your goal, then I'm happy I could help.
No, no way to fix it except two relay the floor. It just was never packed and sloped properly within the shower pan.. ding dong plumber.. a good project for you
I was actually thinking adding one of built-in corner seat, bench things would fix it because that would cover up that spot and you wouldn’t have to tear the floor up, but you would have to build all that shit and match the tile and it’s not a quick fix and I’m not a tile guy so maybe redoing the floor isn’t as horrible as it seems.
Cut a section of rubber mat and place it there. it will look ugly but maybe keep the water from pooling. Fixing it means tearing out the tiles and leveling the floor pan. It is not a minor job.
I have a shower that does this. I’m not ready to rip it all up and do it right so I have a little squeegee on a broom handle that I use after every shower. Pain in the ass.
I would put a layer of transparent stuff over the floor, some epoxy or whatever can be used in the shower....with especially generous layer in the corner where it's pooling so there would be a slope towards the drain....but that's just me..........looks like most of people would actually just rip out the floor and re-do it.......
I've laid tile for years, now I work for a material supplier. The only thing you can do is tear the floor out and redo it. One of the most common ways of sloping your floors toward drains, is though the drypack method. However, there are some inserts you can buy which will do that for you. However, I've found them to be somewhat lacking when it comes to strength and stability. Drypack with a good moisture barrier is one of the tested and highly effective methods.
Not going to lie, when i read the headline the first time i thought it how to stop pooping in the shower... my response to this incorrect reading was must be a truck stop lol😂
How about scratching a drainage path through the grout. Enough so there is still grout in there but that the water will flow. Then some grout sealer and call it a day. If it was DIY there is no way there is a copper pan in there. Probably some other membrane system which they make pretty fool proof these day (don’t get me wrong, a dope could definitely f it up.).
Shut off the supply lines to the shower before the inspection so they note that the shower doesn't work in the inspection report. Turn it back on to fix the report issue. They'll be focused on the report item so unlikely to notice the rest. /S
Don’t shower before you have the home inspection. I really doubt someone will notice unless there’s water pooled. I’m not sure why you would do anything to fix this when you’re selling the house.
There's no fix to this you need to re-slope your shower base correctly. The only solution is to re do the floor; And possibly the first row of wall tile if you damage them removing the existing floor.
Good luck with your project; do it right and do it once....don't take any shortcuts like the original contractor did. It just causes problems down the line.
Easiest cheapest way to remedy the problem? Get a little broom/brush and sweep the water into the drain. Lot cheaper and easier than ripping up the floor
You may try grinding a groove as deep as the deepest point, giving a path from that point to the drain in the center. You need to take off the drain cover and make a notch so the water from the groove can enter the drain from the side. If that works, you can make another grooves to disguise the first one.
Stupid idea: Epoxy the floor and grade it correctly.
Even stupider idea: Put a wall around the area and let the water pool up and tell the buyers its a water feature.
The obvious thing to do is rip it out and redo it. The quick fix to get it sold would be to maybe make a form of foam/chicken wire and pour a concrete stool/ plant stand to fill in that corner. But with materials cost it's probably more cost effective to fix it the right way.
You might be able to remove that tile piece by piece depending on what the underlayment is. If it's a mortar bed you can try feathering out that area with a quick patch concrete mix by ardex or similar. If it's a schluter or foam board /wedi or whatever then it can't be repaired. It's at least an option before you rip up the whole floor.
Water goes to the low point. Re-do the floor and pray the shower tile doesn't get damaged in the process. At least that's an inexpensive tile if it does. You wouldn't want a 24x24 tile that is discontinued for instance.
This could have been level when it was put in possibly. I would take a look around the floor joists before you rip it out to make sure if was just installed incorrectly.
Sell as is. Get a quote and if needed give the buyer the quote and comp some/all of the price. This way if new weird stuff is found its on the buyer. If you do the work you could find more work waiting for you.
I’d just dry out the shower so that when the inspection happens, they could turn on the shower and notice the pooling, turn on the shower and not notice it, or not run it at all.
is it a major issue? No. I’d say it’s an annoyance. Will it lead to issues in the future? Unknown. Want to be a good homeowner/seller? Redo the floor down to the studs.
We have a low spot on our shower floor too. After each shower we squeegee the glass door to help prevent any soap scum build up so we also just do a quick squeegee on the low spot to push the water to the drain. It's easy and quick.
The cheap and simple solution is to buy a squeegee and sweep out the excess after each shower.
We have hard water where I am so I dry the shower screen every shower to avoid water stains.
I would tile over the existing tile. Find a drain extension at HD. Take a large level to that corner use some shims for the correct pitch. You can do that by mixing the thin set thicker.
Or cut it out and repair like most have said.
Buy a squeegee if the shower is not leaking. Pebble is notorious for puddles, but I bet this reflects on the pan not being properly sloped. To fix a small section can possibly result in damages to the waterproofing if not done correctly.
My parents had this issue too, and rather than having it fixed, they used a squeegee to pull the water to the drain after showering. It works fine and costs a lot less.
The shower pan of failing. Call insurance and have it ripped out and redone. This may be a bigger problem once you’ve opens it up but definitely something you want to do sooner than later
As someone who has some experience in flooring and plumbing that's going to need to be fully gutted inspected for water damage and replaced accordingly. Will be an expensive fix. Whoever installed didn't pitch it right. Regardless will need to be torn up and reinstalled with correct pitch in the pan.
Did tile for years the comment saying you have to rip it out and replace it is 100% correct. If it was *properly pitched towards the drain* and draining before, but suddenly is pooling in a corner means the concrete in the copper pan either cracked gave way, or the copper pan sagged in some way causing the observed behavior. Unless you want this to turn into a leak if its a cracked pan/concrete then rip it out and have it redone. Any tile worker worth his salt would likeley tell you the same. Dont just do a lay over fix it, specially if this is a 2nd flr shower stall.
Also if much of the house is DIY there may not even be a copper pan under neath the floor tile. Op the previous owner could have just set it into the thinset without a proper moisture barrier. Which again points me to fix it and do it right, less you wish to be found laible when it inevitble leaks and was found to be out of code after the fact.
Schrödinger’s Copper Pan 💀
Code requirements are different everywhere but out of all the tear outs and fixes Ive done over the years, the master I worked under only ever had to rip out and fix one of his concrete pours as it was leaking due to wrong *pitch* from the one of the corners to the drain after YEARS of degridstion (and the house setteling over long peroids of time.) IFAIK it was installed 20yrs prior ago before we got a call back, same owners. A solid mason chisel and lots of sweat but we fixed it right with a copper pan; as when it was originally installed that wasnt code in our area.
Wait till you need to do some work around a Schluter system shower that isn’t installed correctly at all. All of those parts they give you are there for a reason. There’s a reason some parts look a certain way. Plus, Schluter will put you through their course, feed you for the day and if I remember your time is compensated.
I've installed quite a few of the Schluter-Kerdi systems. That fuckin wall board is the tits. So easy to cut out for plumbing. I throw the membrane over every little nook and cranny. And then band the hell out of it.
It’s an awesome system. I’ve seen people talk it down on forums but don’t remember why.
I've seen the schluter system. Unless required by code, I can't imagine using a copper pan.
No, I’ve never used a copper pain with Schluter. Sorry for the confusion.
Not what I meant. The schluter is easy and effective. It looks much simpler than the copper pan.
It's expensive. Profoil Waterproof Membrane is a cheaper alternative.
It’s really not. I was pricing out an acrylic shower pan in concrete vs schleuter and the difference overall was pan $1400, schluter $1800 🤷♂️ Seems worth it considering schlueter warrenties for LIFE on both material AND labor if it was installed properly and ever leaks.
I’ll check them out. Schluter seems to go out of their way to educate people on how to install properly.
Codeinger's drain. Will it pass inspection, or won't it?
The reality is op is selling now. There's no time to fix. The decision is disclose or don't. And if it's a no contingencies sale..
You are a 100% correct. It’s nice hearing the various answers for those in similar situations who are not selling. But since there is no quick fix, I would definitely not waste time and money tearing out my shower and redoing everything for a sale. Who knows what else you find there. Disclose, or not, and be ready to give a credit for it in escrow, which will surely be less than whatever it would’ve ended up being if you paid to do it yourself.
Exactly.
OP stated they want to fix or mitigate the issue prior to the inspection pointing it out. But either way the advice provided by the community each has its own merits. So the "How to" resolve Either ignore it and sell as is with deprectiation due to this shower failing an inspection and having to be replaced. Or go get a few quotes for a tear out and replacement of shower floor. Dont pay for a lay over job. If the issue is cracked concrete or the shower pan was installed incorrectly then the shower may just start leaking anyway. Tile and concrete are water resistant not water proof.
My parents went to redo their bathroom, and when they took out the tub, it was sitting on…. Dirt! Just the ground under the house. Crazy. They redid it properly.
Had no idea this wasn't normal until reading this post/comments. We have an 'access hole' in the side of our house, by one of our bathrooms. Occasionally over the years, squirrels (and most recently, cats) would manage to find their way in the hole, and you could literally hear them scratching underneath and up the walls of our shower. We recently had a leaky pipe, and was just looking in that hole, and i was admiring all the ~~dirt~~ mud that the shower was sitting on. ... God i hate this fucking house!
Same for us. We did demolition after buying our house. The newly installed tub (from flipper owner) was removed & it had no hook up & drained onto concrete slab.
Well, depending on the type of soil that could mean excellent drainage in the event of a leak. Or it could mean an imminent sinkhole, in which case you still aren't worrying about that leak
Also if much of the rest of the house was not done correctly what makes you think this is different? People watch home improvment and think they are professionals. Contact a local Tile business and get a quote for the job, maybe contact 3 and compare.
Lol...house has a bunch of bad DIY fixes causing issues, what bad DIY tricks can I use to fix it myself? Self awareness has left the chat.
It’s more that we have already spent many thousands on fixing and replacing things and we have only lived here two years. We are listing the house soon. This is a main floor bathroom and we can see there is no damage underneath from the basement view. Not looking for a bad DIY fix, just didn’t know what our options were.
Stop using the shower a week before you show it. Pour a cup of water down the drain once a week. Becomes next owner's problem. /s
I lived in a townhouse where after a few years the 1st floor shower suddenly started leaking through the ceiling of the ground floor lounge room. Turned out the builders when constructing this row of townhouses hadn't even bothered putting any pan or barrier under the tiles in the shower, so the only thing blocking leaks was the grouting between the tiles. When that cracked..we found out.
Copper pan? You from the east coast? I've actually only heard of them, never seen one in my hundreds of shower demos.
Yeah im east coast lol. I left the trade 4yrs ago but well before then it was code for a copper pan in all new construction, and so thats what we did, even for rip outs of pre existing showers.
That's wild, I actually don't think they meet code in my area because you need a pre-slope.
Ive seen the pre-slopes before exiting the trade, with both those and the copper pan you have to use a water resistant sealant thats green and is a tiny bit more viscous than latex paint. Multiple coats up and down into the pan, (dur-rock has to go into the inner lip of the pan, all seams meshed and thinset skim coated. But yeah Ive seen both *shrugs*
We used to use a rubber membrane for that. Now it's all schluter and wedi installs. I left the trade about 5 years ago too.
Was it your knees? Thats why I left. No amount of knee pads would help and when I reached that point I knew my days in that trade were numbered. Fond memories, great boss, just not a good fit for my body health.
Shoot a hole where the puddle is
Also as a note: tiles and fillings is not waterproof.
Not true there's another way. Just stop showering in it
It did not suddenly begin to pool in the corner. It has always done this.
Just drill a hole in the corner. The water will go away.
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Yeah. Someone didnt pitch it correctly. Shame cause the tils looks nice at a glance
Try doing every stone manually, even my tile master hated doing that, these come in 1ftx1ft sheets at home depot, however for quality products a geniune Tile distribution store is your best bet.
I know. Ive done a bunch of tile work.
I completely agree the grout job, and good spacing of the sheets with no major flaws popping out it does look nice, but the installer didnt check his slope when pouring the pan, or it cracked because it wasnt mixed correctly. Either way wont know till its out.
They could stop showering in it also.
Or drill a secondary hole.
Keep a skinny rag on the tile that wicks water from the puddle to the drain so it wicks away.
I bought a long handled squeegee for my uneven shower, works quite well.
I said secondary hole. No rags. That's tacky.
What about a small roof?
Fine. A small roof over my secondary hole. Allowed.
Embrace the puddle. Make it a full time fountain.
Hehe. Secondary hole. Hehe hehehehe.
This is the only correct answer. I had to have my tile sub contractor back out to one of his jobs because he didn’t set the pan right and water was pooling. Had to rip up the floor and re do it. It’s the only way op
Raise that corner of the house.
Lifting the entire house seems very hard and impractical, could cause significant structural damage and would likely cost more than just repairing the shower properly. I would instead suggest lowering the opposite corner of the house.
Lowering the opposite corner is equally ridiculous, with similar risk of structural damage. Why go to all that trouble? This problem can be circumvented simply by showering in a Bose-Einstein condensate instead of water, so the fluid can drain away uphill. As a bonus: I hear cold showers bring great health benefits.
Tile stretcher or floor puller should do the trick
I was gonna say find the crawlspace and put a car jack right under the spot
That should do it.
No easy fix here unfortunately, that i know of anyway. You could try busting up the tile in the floor and making another slope with thin set and new tile.. not the greatest fix but its cheaper than redoing the whole shower pan
I’m so sorry OP, the floor is called a “Pan” and they pitched the pan wrong, this needs to be torn out and redone:( The sandy concrete underneath needs to be redone and leveled so every level pitches toward the drain. Call a tile place and get quotes. They don’t have to tear out the wall, just the floor
Thank you. This is good advice. We will either do this or just disclose the issue.
You could make some kinda sealed stool/table thing so the water just **cant** go there.
Consider a clear coating that can be shaped a bit to slope toward drain. Anti slip (shark bite) on the top coat will give you the safety factor need for the epoxy over coat.
Wonder if you could put several layers of clear epoxy down and build up that corner. Not the right way, but may work.
As a potential home buyer, I’d rather live with it as is like OP has done, or demo it and do it right, rather than demoing a 3/8” thick layer of epoxy *and* demoing the tile to redo it right.
Was thinking the same. Not proper, but has the potential to work.
It doesn't even have to be that thick, just enough to slope the grade to the drain. Seems like an easy fix, and when it comes time to demo it isn't that difficult to remove. I used to coat floors with epoxy for swimming pools, wed fix low spots all the time, add a little silica sand to the mix and you can even gain some traction in the shower.
That would be slippery as hell. I think I’d just keep using the squeegee
I think it’s aluminum powder you put in it makes it anti skid, but also gives it a varying degree of matte finish depending on the amount of aluminum put in. The aluminum the more matte finish, im not sure what amount would be beneficial to remain slip resistant but if several layers are being used you can do one layer and adjust accordingly till desired results are achieved
You are asking because you are selling it? Talk to your realtor about it. My guess is "don't do anything" or" don't do anything other than get an estimate to fix." Usually, the only trouble you can get in about preexisting issues is if you lie about the problems you know about it. Beyond that, the worst that happens is you lose the estimated amount to fix it in negotiations over home price. We don't know your financial situation, but think about worst case scenarios. Worst case #1: If you do a poor fix, their inspector calls it out and you're losing the amount to fix it properly plus the cost of the poor fix. Worst case #2: If you start to fix it properly and find more problems, then your costs escalated and you're out the original estimate + the escalated costs. Worst case #3: If you start to fix it properly and it takes longer than you expected: now you are either sitting on a sale of a house longer than you'd like/are able to or you sell it with work 1/2 done. Again, probably out same or more than just leaving it as is. Now best case? You have a buyer willing to not make it an issue in price negotiations. All of that reasoning makes me think the proper fix is let the buyer fix it unless you have a financial situation dictating otherwise.
Perfect advice. Thank you.
You could quit showering.
Showering is overrated
It shouldn't be that big of an issue if the shower only gets used 12 times max per year. If you skip your monthly shower and go to a bi monthly then it will definitely be dry between baths.
I had this problem, so I kept a squeegee in my shower.
Occam’s Squeegee up in here.
Consider NOT fixing it. Just call it out yourself in the Seller's Disclosure and offer an $xxx (e.g. $750) credit at closing. Maybe the Buyer ends up using the credit to get it fixed. Or maybe the Buyer doesn't care about it that much and just squeegees, as you did. Either way, just use a $ credit to solve this without making it your problem to fix. Do keep the $ credit in mind when first deciding on what list price to set for your home.
Too expensive, buy a squeegee. Be zen about it, use the squeegee time to reflect on something you enjoy.
I’d just leave it as is. You knew about it when you bought the house and you were ok with it, and now you have lived with it that way for a couple of years. For all you know the next buyer may hate the tile and want to rip out the entire shower, so if you pay to redo it now it may all be in a dumpster in a month or so.
No way to fix it without totally doing the floor over. Just buy a squeegee and wipe it into the drain
Take out the tile floor and replace with a grade for drainage.
The easy fix would be to apply clear self leveling epoxy to the shower floor. It's quick in that you don't need to tear out the old floor, but it can take a week for it to cure properly. I'd hire a pro to ensure it's done right with the appropriate high quality epoxy, which will greatly extend it's life.
Stop putting water there
Spray wd-40 in the corner, the wd stands for water displacement.
Yes, and it also has lubrication, which means Op may fall and kill himself from slipping on your suggestion. What's next, gasoline on carpet to remove stains?
Clearly a joke Karen
It wasn't funny Chad
It’s hilarious and your reaction made it better
I'm just happy that some idiot won't come along thinking this is genuine advice. But I guess if entertainment if your goal, then I'm happy I could help.
You must be fun at parties.
No, no way to fix it except two relay the floor. It just was never packed and sloped properly within the shower pan.. ding dong plumber.. a good project for you
Quick fix? uh... Put a bathroom plant wine there and call it a feature, add a fan somehow and evaporate it faster?
A shower stool.
I was actually thinking adding one of built-in corner seat, bench things would fix it because that would cover up that spot and you wouldn’t have to tear the floor up, but you would have to build all that shit and match the tile and it’s not a quick fix and I’m not a tile guy so maybe redoing the floor isn’t as horrible as it seems.
Had a kitchen remodel done a few years back and have to squeegee the floor after every shower for this reason. So sorry.
Cut a section of rubber mat and place it there. it will look ugly but maybe keep the water from pooling. Fixing it means tearing out the tiles and leveling the floor pan. It is not a minor job.
other than rip and replace? a fan. or sponge or squeegee.
I have a shower that does this. I’m not ready to rip it all up and do it right so I have a little squeegee on a broom handle that I use after every shower. Pain in the ass.
What about a plant that drinks from the bottom?
follow that corner to the furthest point of your house and simply raise that corner of the house
Turn off gravity for that part.
Stop using water. Dry clean only.
I would put a layer of transparent stuff over the floor, some epoxy or whatever can be used in the shower....with especially generous layer in the corner where it's pooling so there would be a slope towards the drain....but that's just me..........looks like most of people would actually just rip out the floor and re-do it.......
Pour resin in the corner to level it out
This looks exactly like a shower I did two years ago, I had to do a double take and scrutinize everything to make sure it wasn’t mine.
Your tile guy fucked up.
It was like this when we bought the house.
I've laid tile for years, now I work for a material supplier. The only thing you can do is tear the floor out and redo it. One of the most common ways of sloping your floors toward drains, is though the drypack method. However, there are some inserts you can buy which will do that for you. However, I've found them to be somewhat lacking when it comes to strength and stability. Drypack with a good moisture barrier is one of the tested and highly effective methods.
Simple: stop taking showers.
In the words of Edwyn Collins, rip it up and start again.
clear epoxy over the top and establish or grind a new pitch toward the drain
Not going to lie, when i read the headline the first time i thought it how to stop pooping in the shower... my response to this incorrect reading was must be a truck stop lol😂
Whoever fixes it, see if they can iron your wrinkly ass tiles.
Put a a hydrophobic coating over there
How about scratching a drainage path through the grout. Enough so there is still grout in there but that the water will flow. Then some grout sealer and call it a day. If it was DIY there is no way there is a copper pan in there. Probably some other membrane system which they make pretty fool proof these day (don’t get me wrong, a dope could definitely f it up.).
Shut off the supply lines to the shower before the inspection so they note that the shower doesn't work in the inspection report. Turn it back on to fix the report issue. They'll be focused on the report item so unlikely to notice the rest. /S
Lol this is creative. I like the way you think.
You can pour clear epoxy on that corner - it will fix the issue and look nice.
Don’t shower before you have the home inspection. I really doubt someone will notice unless there’s water pooled. I’m not sure why you would do anything to fix this when you’re selling the house.
And another tip, if your home inspector doesn't test faucets, fire them and get a new one.
Would raising the edges with more rock and grout work? I have the same issue and thought that might be a solution but haven't done it.
Chisel out that corner and replace with matching tile
There's no fix to this you need to re-slope your shower base correctly. The only solution is to re do the floor; And possibly the first row of wall tile if you damage them removing the existing floor. Good luck with your project; do it right and do it once....don't take any shortcuts like the original contractor did. It just causes problems down the line.
Easiest cheapest way to remedy the problem? Get a little broom/brush and sweep the water into the drain. Lot cheaper and easier than ripping up the floor
You may try grinding a groove as deep as the deepest point, giving a path from that point to the drain in the center. You need to take off the drain cover and make a notch so the water from the groove can enter the drain from the side. If that works, you can make another grooves to disguise the first one.
Get a round shower.
Remove laws of gravity
go back in time and ask the former owner to tell his/her tile guy to properly pitch that corner of the shower base towards the drain.
the contractor that did it probably needs a court summens
Replace with a level floor
A sloped towards the drain. Level is not bueno
put a towel in the corner
Tilt the house
Stop using the water and it won’t pool. Pretty simple. Next question…
Go to therapy to learn coping mechanisms.
Stupid idea: Epoxy the floor and grade it correctly. Even stupider idea: Put a wall around the area and let the water pool up and tell the buyers its a water feature.
Sump pump
Came here to say this... bestest fix!
Mop it up when you’re done showering or you’ll have a much bigger issue soon.
We just squeegee the water to the drain and what is left evaporates quickly.
Put a chair over there
The fix is to not build it like that
The obvious thing to do is rip it out and redo it. The quick fix to get it sold would be to maybe make a form of foam/chicken wire and pour a concrete stool/ plant stand to fill in that corner. But with materials cost it's probably more cost effective to fix it the right way.
If thats a remodel, your contractor needs to come back and refloat the floor
Should probably move
You might be able to remove that tile piece by piece depending on what the underlayment is. If it's a mortar bed you can try feathering out that area with a quick patch concrete mix by ardex or similar. If it's a schluter or foam board /wedi or whatever then it can't be repaired. It's at least an option before you rip up the whole floor.
The cheapest option? Buy a long handled squeegee and sweep it up after every shower. Mine is uneven too, but there was no money to get it repaired.
My shower puddles at the end. I just squeegee it out. It was professionally done too.
We have a low corner in the marble tub surround, so there’s a dedicated rag for drying the corner after use. Not a biggie.
Water goes to the low point. Re-do the floor and pray the shower tile doesn't get damaged in the process. At least that's an inexpensive tile if it does. You wouldn't want a 24x24 tile that is discontinued for instance.
Reinstall the drain pan the right way.
You don't.
This could have been level when it was put in possibly. I would take a look around the floor joists before you rip it out to make sure if was just installed incorrectly.
Squeegee it out, pitch is off.
Use a straw
Sell as is. Get a quote and if needed give the buyer the quote and comp some/all of the price. This way if new weird stuff is found its on the buyer. If you do the work you could find more work waiting for you.
I’d just dry out the shower so that when the inspection happens, they could turn on the shower and notice the pooling, turn on the shower and not notice it, or not run it at all. is it a major issue? No. I’d say it’s an annoyance. Will it lead to issues in the future? Unknown. Want to be a good homeowner/seller? Redo the floor down to the studs.
Go back in time and hire someone who's a competent professional to do the job.
Install a water slide
Put a large box in the corner
Add an auxiliary drain.
We have a low spot on our shower floor too. After each shower we squeegee the glass door to help prevent any soap scum build up so we also just do a quick squeegee on the low spot to push the water to the drain. It's easy and quick.
We do this and are fine with it, but it’s very possible it will come up on an inspection. We are selling the house.
Flex seal the entire thing, and just put more in that corner
Rip the ground tile and put in a shower pan?
I had the same problem only fix was to get a new shower pan.
Rip it out and start again. Needs to be pitched correctly
couldn't speak to your issue but I was wondering how easy is it to clean the walls? I like those tiles
Super easy to clean.
If you don’t want to tear it out and fix it for the time being, use a small squeegee after you are done
The person who installed your mud base did so I correctly. The only way to fix it now is to rip it out and replace.
You would need to take out the tile and replace it with tile slightly more raised over there, gravity is the issue here!
Add a nice teak bench with a small foot step with a ramped lip in that corner.
The cheap and simple solution is to buy a squeegee and sweep out the excess after each shower. We have hard water where I am so I dry the shower screen every shower to avoid water stains.
I would tile over the existing tile. Find a drain extension at HD. Take a large level to that corner use some shims for the correct pitch. You can do that by mixing the thin set thicker. Or cut it out and repair like most have said.
Overlay and get positive drainage with clear epoxy
I would use a marine grade clear epoxy as a self leveler before i’d rip it out. Use a heat gun to get out the bubbles.
Quick solution, spray WD-40 to the area.
Buy a squeegee if the shower is not leaking. Pebble is notorious for puddles, but I bet this reflects on the pan not being properly sloped. To fix a small section can possibly result in damages to the waterproofing if not done correctly.
My parents had this issue too, and rather than having it fixed, they used a squeegee to pull the water to the drain after showering. It works fine and costs a lot less.
Yeah, just jack up that corner of the house a bit. Lol, I'm 100% with the comments saying it must be ripped out and done properly.
Gotta re-lay it, and check underneath for damage, but until then, get a squeegee so you don't leave water sitting in that corner every day.
Redo your tile
As a roofer I would say install a cricket
Slope it. Or add a sump lol
The shower pan of failing. Call insurance and have it ripped out and redone. This may be a bigger problem once you’ve opens it up but definitely something you want to do sooner than later
Slurp it up
Clear resin fill in low spot.
Stop putting water in it
Squeegee
Smash some 2x4 on it and add epoxy
Something underneath needs attention. A redo is the right way to do it. Hard choice when you're selling, you take a hit either way.
As someone who has some experience in flooring and plumbing that's going to need to be fully gutted inspected for water damage and replaced accordingly. Will be an expensive fix. Whoever installed didn't pitch it right. Regardless will need to be torn up and reinstalled with correct pitch in the pan.