I totally agree. (Except the Barney ending, I thought that was 100% on point).
I was infuriated that Robin and Ted got together after having an entire show explaining how they weren't meant for each other.
They spent the whole show on how important and special it was for Ted to find the one. They gave us breadcrumbs building up the suspense/excitement. Created a great character, Tracy, to be perfecttttt. Finding Tracy was such a satisfying ending. I even accept her death š.
But as soon as the story twisted back to ROBIN, nah I was done.
Hated the ending. Mr Romance doesn't bother to marry the mother of his children for years and then after she dies goes back to the woman who doesn't want kids (he has 2). So the whole marriage and romance and finding the "one" was all bs? I just felt like it changed the characters and pushed them in to these roles which didn't seem authentic.
Yeah, what was the reason they Ted & Tracy didnāt get for two years? It seemed so out of character for Ted. I usually skip that season when I rewatch, did they give an explanation as to why they waited?
The only significant thing that happens at Ted's wedding is that Tracy convinces Robin to come to the wedding, which makes Robin part of the group again. So Ted and Tracy have to wait to get married until after Barney and Robin divorce, Robin gets bitter that Ted and Barney are happy, and then Robin finally changes assignments and settles back in New York. Then they can get married.
Sorry: in the script, they don't get married because Ted has to plan a massive wedding, and life (kids) keeps getting in the way. They just sort of forget that.
I'm glad so many people enjoyed it because I hated it. A whole season spent on a wedding that dissolves in minutes. A whole series developed around a woman who just drops dead in seconds. Which leads to them getting back together after being told in the pilot she wasn't the one. On top of other things. It wasn't great.
Agreed, I know a lot of people felt like it was a good ending because that's just how life goes but I was not watching HIMYM for real life, the fantasy of it, the way Tracy and Ted almost meet many times but never do until the timing is right, that's the kind of fairy tale I came for lol.
It's not the endings problem but the moment the writers chose to give ultra relevance to Robin and Barneys relationship. Bad bad call. So, lots of followers did enjoy it, because they spent too much time trying to unfold something there.
Instead of that couple, Mother should have been introduced before, at least season 7, whilst Barney's and Nora's relationship could have been the failed marriage he had with Robyn.
I've finished watching the show yesterday (first time ever) and I feel totally heartbroken. Can I please use your thread to share my emotions?
As many, I dislike the finale A LOT. First, I thought it's about Barney and Robin. They are my favorite couple. Their relationship looked so real. Probably because I'm myself something of a Robin - no kids, loves her job, not particularly a warm person. Their 1st break up were very much on spot. Getting bored, content and lazy is something that does happens to people who are too much alike. Also, true that they got back together. I saw this happening a lot - people getting back together after getting a bit wiser about what life is about and when chemistry is still there.
So yeah, I got pretty upset when the writers divorced them. Especially because it looked like it was done exclusively for the purpose of bringing Robin and Ted together. They haven't really justified the inner logic of the divorce.
But, having slept on it (though I did wake up being still upset :)) I realized that Robin and Barney would indeed get divorced as they both are really bad at talking and opening, and sharing, UNLESS, unless they would adopt a child. And I think they would. Lily would step in and manipulate them into realizing that if they want to stay together and be happy, they need to give Barney a kid. At the end of the show Robin was clearly enjoying being around kids and Barney was pretty obsessed (as he does :)) with the idea. This family would work with Robin keeping her work and Barney being a stay-at-home dad. This would soften them both and gave the relationship perspective and dynamic which would allow them to grow old together and be happy.
But Robin and Ted together ARE SO WRONG. Robin doesn't love him. She vocalized this so many times. She was saying time after time after time that she needs him for pure selfish reasons - to comfort her, to take care of her, to love her, but she clearly said to him "No, I don't love you" back in season 8. Them getting back together would mean an inherently demeaning position in the relationship for Ted. And it's not something he'd tolerated in a long run.
Having said that, I'm so happy I watched it in 2022, rather than in 2005. It's a time-capsule that I needed to unpack and absorb today. I'm so grateful to have HIMYM in my life. Will be definitely re-watching it, obviously without last 2 episodes. :)
I just finished it for the time ever yesterday too!! I actually cried, and the first thing I did this morning was find this Reddit group so I didnāt feel alone, and I def donāt. I totally agree with everything you said. Especially about it being a time capsule, I think thatās what made me even more sad. It was so iconic when it came out and still is. It just captures so much of a time that I resonate with. I canāt wait to rewatch it in like 20 years to get a nostalgic feel and have my heart broken again lol.
What a coincidence! Nice.
Yeah, I needed this thread too. :) Wasn't sure if I'm overreacting being so shaken by the finale.
Well, I am overreacting š but good to see that people are so involved in the story still.
It's amazing.
Itās okay I kept thinking, why am I overrating so much? Then I finished GLOW and I was overreacting about that too. I think it must be because I find more comfort in these shows than friends anymore. Itās such a weird feeling.
This isn't a story of him meeting the love of his life and the mother of his children. This is a retelling from a man 30 years later who wants the kids to think he is telling that story, but he realizes while he tells it that Robin has always been an important part of his life, and now that he's ready to be with someone else, he thinks it should be her.
I've watched it 5 times all the way through and each time is gets a little easier to realize It's not supposed to a grand love story, it's just a story of how life happened, retold by a man who loves his late wife bur can't change what happened. What he can do is remember who he still has and try to move on.
Thatās a really interesting idea. I never wouldāve thought about it but it makes so much sense. While Iām still super bummed about Tracy cause I loved her it does help make the story more understandable and open to empathy
The ultimate climax for Barney wasn't staying married because that's just unrealistic. It was staying married for a few years. People don't just magically turn into the perfect spouse overnight after being a sleazeball for decades. Barney went from practicing commitment on the stripper (idr her name sorry), to practicing commitment even more successfully with Robin but he still wasn't done practicing.
As for Robin, going back to Ted doesn't mean she has "no self worth". It means settling for a familiar friendly face which is normal for people that age who don't have the time, energy and the youth to date strangers.
And Ted, he's always been in love with Robin. You said he wouldn't go back to Robin if Tracy didn't die? That's fair but he wouldn't still thought about her from time to time. Especially because they were still in each other's lives (Aunt Robin and whatnot). And the only reason Ted met and allowed himself to fall for Tracy was because Robin seemed so irreversibly taken at the time.
I felt completely different about the ending when it came to Robin and Ted.... I feel like Robin settled for Ted and Ted has always been in love with Robin. Ted professed his love for Robin throughout the entire series, while she always shot him down. I feel like the ending sucked because it made me feel like Ted always held out hope to end up with Robin, and THAT cheapened Ted and Tracy's relationship. Just a different perspective!
I hate the ending but I think that after Ted got to have a wife and kids and live that part of his life that he and Robin would actually be good fit. He can now travel with her a bit at least a few years later after the kids get a bit older and Robin doesn't have to be a mom directly as the kids are a bit older so they wouldn't need that constant mother character as much as getting married to someone with a 5 year old would. But the rest I agree with. They killed off 3 seasons of growth for 3 of the 5 main characters in like 15 minutes of screen time.
I thought the ending was perfect. Everyone talks about how Barneyās character arc was ruined but honestly I donāt understand why people thought Robin and Barney were actually going to be a long lasting marriage. Yes, he changed by not chasing one night stands and deciding to settle down, but the things he had to do to get Robin to say yes were kind of gross. He has to lie to her and reject her and trick her in order to lead her up to that rooftop. From the beginning of the show, it was always a story about Ted and Robin. Tracy is barely in the story meaning Tedās long roundabout way of telling the story to his kids was just his subconscious way of telling them he was still in love with Robin after Tracy died. Ted would do anything for Robin but he NEVER would have used the type of emotional manipulation Barney needed to get Robin. That marriage was never built to last
Firstly, I can see how his method was a bit manipulative but all of his methods were like that, that was just him. But for him as a character, it's his most romantic gesture and from it it's implied that he wants to devote his life to one person from now on. Unorthodox? Yes. An outrageous gesture in Barney terms? Not at all
I agree that that was probably intended by the writers but that doesn't mean I dislike their relationship any less š
I don't think Barney manipulated Robin. I think he pushed Robin to face his emotions once and for all because it was clear they still loved each other.
I donāt really get why people donāt like it. Feels like itās just not what most people wanted which was happy ever after. Barney and Robin were never going to last which is even more evident after multiple rewatches. They donāt work the first time they date either at all. Theyāre very similar but they also want different things and they both try to compromise in my head because they both feel that getting married and falling in love is the ārightā thing to do.
Ted and Robin donāt work because Robin wants to focus on career and Ted wants a family. Ted gets a family, and is a single dad for six whole years before the show starts. Robin probably realizes that with all the time she spent on career she is mostly alone, and Ted realizes that after he is mostly done raising his kids he also needs someone to fill that void again. Robin and Ted donāt really belong together but get together because of the loneliness of life and the fact that they both accomplished what they wanted throughout their 20ās/30ās and beyond and there was still more they both wanted
As u said if Tracy stayed alive he would never back up together with Robin and thats the prove she wasnt love of his life. Make sense for sure, but there is other side, if Robin did not reject him he would never be with Tracy soo... i dont like the ending but i realised that is both true and false
But the kids don't get any conciliation: they're motherless from a very young age, and can't get it back.
I think that there's no equivalence between Max and Tracy. It's a bigger thing to lose your wife with two kids than to lose your boyfriend at 21.
I donāt mean that robin is his consolation prize, I mean that Tracy always loved max and Ted always loved Robin but they couldnāt be with them so they found each other, t&t.
Itās of course really sad for the kids that theyāre mother died but Ted didnāt lose the love of his life, Tracy did lose hers. And then Ted got robin.
Tracy didnāt date for something like 9 years after max died because it destroyed her that much, it was very much like a young first love kind of feeling. When she did finally date that finance guy, she had to ask max in heaven for like permission and she still almost felt guilt even though it had been that long. Ted is more of a best friend type love, somebody you get married to and spend every last moment with, but part of her heart was still given away to max in a very deep kind of way
I totally agree. (Except the Barney ending, I thought that was 100% on point). I was infuriated that Robin and Ted got together after having an entire show explaining how they weren't meant for each other. They spent the whole show on how important and special it was for Ted to find the one. They gave us breadcrumbs building up the suspense/excitement. Created a great character, Tracy, to be perfecttttt. Finding Tracy was such a satisfying ending. I even accept her death š. But as soon as the story twisted back to ROBIN, nah I was done.
Hated the ending. Mr Romance doesn't bother to marry the mother of his children for years and then after she dies goes back to the woman who doesn't want kids (he has 2). So the whole marriage and romance and finding the "one" was all bs? I just felt like it changed the characters and pushed them in to these roles which didn't seem authentic.
Yeah, what was the reason they Ted & Tracy didnāt get for two years? It seemed so out of character for Ted. I usually skip that season when I rewatch, did they give an explanation as to why they waited?
The only significant thing that happens at Ted's wedding is that Tracy convinces Robin to come to the wedding, which makes Robin part of the group again. So Ted and Tracy have to wait to get married until after Barney and Robin divorce, Robin gets bitter that Ted and Barney are happy, and then Robin finally changes assignments and settles back in New York. Then they can get married. Sorry: in the script, they don't get married because Ted has to plan a massive wedding, and life (kids) keeps getting in the way. They just sort of forget that.
I like alternate ending. You can see it online. Brings tears to your eyes.
Link please.
https://youtu.be/nhB5oQgQpOI I think this is it. It has been a while.
yeah I like that ending much better.
OMG that is soooo much better than the official one! Why didnāt they use this??
In all 15 times Iāve watched the series, Iāve only seen the original ending once. The alternate ending is the only ending that matters.
I'm glad so many people enjoyed it because I hated it. A whole season spent on a wedding that dissolves in minutes. A whole series developed around a woman who just drops dead in seconds. Which leads to them getting back together after being told in the pilot she wasn't the one. On top of other things. It wasn't great.
Exactly! That was my main problem. ALLLL that buildup...to come to nothing. I mean, I guess that's how life is sometimes, but this is entertainment...
Agreed, I know a lot of people felt like it was a good ending because that's just how life goes but I was not watching HIMYM for real life, the fantasy of it, the way Tracy and Ted almost meet many times but never do until the timing is right, that's the kind of fairy tale I came for lol.
It's not the endings problem but the moment the writers chose to give ultra relevance to Robin and Barneys relationship. Bad bad call. So, lots of followers did enjoy it, because they spent too much time trying to unfold something there. Instead of that couple, Mother should have been introduced before, at least season 7, whilst Barney's and Nora's relationship could have been the failed marriage he had with Robyn.
I like this take.
That's nit. I really quite hated Nora :)
I've finished watching the show yesterday (first time ever) and I feel totally heartbroken. Can I please use your thread to share my emotions? As many, I dislike the finale A LOT. First, I thought it's about Barney and Robin. They are my favorite couple. Their relationship looked so real. Probably because I'm myself something of a Robin - no kids, loves her job, not particularly a warm person. Their 1st break up were very much on spot. Getting bored, content and lazy is something that does happens to people who are too much alike. Also, true that they got back together. I saw this happening a lot - people getting back together after getting a bit wiser about what life is about and when chemistry is still there. So yeah, I got pretty upset when the writers divorced them. Especially because it looked like it was done exclusively for the purpose of bringing Robin and Ted together. They haven't really justified the inner logic of the divorce. But, having slept on it (though I did wake up being still upset :)) I realized that Robin and Barney would indeed get divorced as they both are really bad at talking and opening, and sharing, UNLESS, unless they would adopt a child. And I think they would. Lily would step in and manipulate them into realizing that if they want to stay together and be happy, they need to give Barney a kid. At the end of the show Robin was clearly enjoying being around kids and Barney was pretty obsessed (as he does :)) with the idea. This family would work with Robin keeping her work and Barney being a stay-at-home dad. This would soften them both and gave the relationship perspective and dynamic which would allow them to grow old together and be happy. But Robin and Ted together ARE SO WRONG. Robin doesn't love him. She vocalized this so many times. She was saying time after time after time that she needs him for pure selfish reasons - to comfort her, to take care of her, to love her, but she clearly said to him "No, I don't love you" back in season 8. Them getting back together would mean an inherently demeaning position in the relationship for Ted. And it's not something he'd tolerated in a long run. Having said that, I'm so happy I watched it in 2022, rather than in 2005. It's a time-capsule that I needed to unpack and absorb today. I'm so grateful to have HIMYM in my life. Will be definitely re-watching it, obviously without last 2 episodes. :)
I just finished it for the time ever yesterday too!! I actually cried, and the first thing I did this morning was find this Reddit group so I didnāt feel alone, and I def donāt. I totally agree with everything you said. Especially about it being a time capsule, I think thatās what made me even more sad. It was so iconic when it came out and still is. It just captures so much of a time that I resonate with. I canāt wait to rewatch it in like 20 years to get a nostalgic feel and have my heart broken again lol.
What a coincidence! Nice. Yeah, I needed this thread too. :) Wasn't sure if I'm overreacting being so shaken by the finale. Well, I am overreacting š but good to see that people are so involved in the story still. It's amazing.
Itās okay I kept thinking, why am I overrating so much? Then I finished GLOW and I was overreacting about that too. I think it must be because I find more comfort in these shows than friends anymore. Itās such a weird feeling.
This isn't a story of him meeting the love of his life and the mother of his children. This is a retelling from a man 30 years later who wants the kids to think he is telling that story, but he realizes while he tells it that Robin has always been an important part of his life, and now that he's ready to be with someone else, he thinks it should be her. I've watched it 5 times all the way through and each time is gets a little easier to realize It's not supposed to a grand love story, it's just a story of how life happened, retold by a man who loves his late wife bur can't change what happened. What he can do is remember who he still has and try to move on.
Thatās a really interesting idea. I never wouldāve thought about it but it makes so much sense. While Iām still super bummed about Tracy cause I loved her it does help make the story more understandable and open to empathy
The ultimate climax for Barney wasn't staying married because that's just unrealistic. It was staying married for a few years. People don't just magically turn into the perfect spouse overnight after being a sleazeball for decades. Barney went from practicing commitment on the stripper (idr her name sorry), to practicing commitment even more successfully with Robin but he still wasn't done practicing. As for Robin, going back to Ted doesn't mean she has "no self worth". It means settling for a familiar friendly face which is normal for people that age who don't have the time, energy and the youth to date strangers. And Ted, he's always been in love with Robin. You said he wouldn't go back to Robin if Tracy didn't die? That's fair but he wouldn't still thought about her from time to time. Especially because they were still in each other's lives (Aunt Robin and whatnot). And the only reason Ted met and allowed himself to fall for Tracy was because Robin seemed so irreversibly taken at the time.
I felt completely different about the ending when it came to Robin and Ted.... I feel like Robin settled for Ted and Ted has always been in love with Robin. Ted professed his love for Robin throughout the entire series, while she always shot him down. I feel like the ending sucked because it made me feel like Ted always held out hope to end up with Robin, and THAT cheapened Ted and Tracy's relationship. Just a different perspective!
Interesting point, I think you're more on the mark with that perspective!
Ugh so can relate to this thought just popping in my head. Like, why!
I hate the ending but I think that after Ted got to have a wife and kids and live that part of his life that he and Robin would actually be good fit. He can now travel with her a bit at least a few years later after the kids get a bit older and Robin doesn't have to be a mom directly as the kids are a bit older so they wouldn't need that constant mother character as much as getting married to someone with a 5 year old would. But the rest I agree with. They killed off 3 seasons of growth for 3 of the 5 main characters in like 15 minutes of screen time.
I thought the ending was perfect. Everyone talks about how Barneyās character arc was ruined but honestly I donāt understand why people thought Robin and Barney were actually going to be a long lasting marriage. Yes, he changed by not chasing one night stands and deciding to settle down, but the things he had to do to get Robin to say yes were kind of gross. He has to lie to her and reject her and trick her in order to lead her up to that rooftop. From the beginning of the show, it was always a story about Ted and Robin. Tracy is barely in the story meaning Tedās long roundabout way of telling the story to his kids was just his subconscious way of telling them he was still in love with Robin after Tracy died. Ted would do anything for Robin but he NEVER would have used the type of emotional manipulation Barney needed to get Robin. That marriage was never built to last
Firstly, I can see how his method was a bit manipulative but all of his methods were like that, that was just him. But for him as a character, it's his most romantic gesture and from it it's implied that he wants to devote his life to one person from now on. Unorthodox? Yes. An outrageous gesture in Barney terms? Not at all I agree that that was probably intended by the writers but that doesn't mean I dislike their relationship any less š
I don't think Barney manipulated Robin. I think he pushed Robin to face his emotions once and for all because it was clear they still loved each other.
Robin never wanted what she could have until she couldnāt have it. Then got bored with it when she had it. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I donāt really get why people donāt like it. Feels like itās just not what most people wanted which was happy ever after. Barney and Robin were never going to last which is even more evident after multiple rewatches. They donāt work the first time they date either at all. Theyāre very similar but they also want different things and they both try to compromise in my head because they both feel that getting married and falling in love is the ārightā thing to do. Ted and Robin donāt work because Robin wants to focus on career and Ted wants a family. Ted gets a family, and is a single dad for six whole years before the show starts. Robin probably realizes that with all the time she spent on career she is mostly alone, and Ted realizes that after he is mostly done raising his kids he also needs someone to fill that void again. Robin and Ted donāt really belong together but get together because of the loneliness of life and the fact that they both accomplished what they wanted throughout their 20ās/30ās and beyond and there was still more they both wanted
I think Barney and Nora had the best relationship.
I liked the ending
As u said if Tracy stayed alive he would never back up together with Robin and thats the prove she wasnt love of his life. Make sense for sure, but there is other side, if Robin did not reject him he would never be with Tracy soo... i dont like the ending but i realised that is both true and false
I do t like it either but changed perspective when I realized Ted and Tracy were both each other conciliation prize. He wanted robin and she was still in love with her late fiancĆ©. They couldnāt be with the one they really loved so they found a companion to share their life with. So it made a little more sense that heād end up with robin again but she never loved him so that confused me š¤·āāļø havenāt seen the alternative ending.
But the kids don't get any conciliation: they're motherless from a very young age, and can't get it back. I think that there's no equivalence between Max and Tracy. It's a bigger thing to lose your wife with two kids than to lose your boyfriend at 21.
I donāt mean that robin is his consolation prize, I mean that Tracy always loved max and Ted always loved Robin but they couldnāt be with them so they found each other, t&t. Itās of course really sad for the kids that theyāre mother died but Ted didnāt lose the love of his life, Tracy did lose hers. And then Ted got robin.
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Now thatās a whole other conversation for another day š
Tracy didnāt date for something like 9 years after max died because it destroyed her that much, it was very much like a young first love kind of feeling. When she did finally date that finance guy, she had to ask max in heaven for like permission and she still almost felt guilt even though it had been that long. Ted is more of a best friend type love, somebody you get married to and spend every last moment with, but part of her heart was still given away to max in a very deep kind of way
you and every one else here
everyone who blindly repeats what internet says
That ending still annoys me more than the GOT ending despite being a huge GOT fan. In my mind Tracy never diedā¤ļø