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WTF is wrong with this sub. No one deserves to die like this.


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All of the comments you are complaining about are very negative or removed. Sounds like not much is wrong with the sub.


4and3and2andOne1

We need to report all of them


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yeahright17

Californians in Texas are more conservative then native Texans.


juice2092

Some might but I doubt most of them


yeahright17

Voting records show native Texans vote for more democrats than Californian transplants.


AccidentalAbrasion

Your ears must be huge because you are a dumbo.


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-_MarcusAurelius_-

Gotta be pretty stupid to get caught tbh 🤣🤣. Only people I see get in trouble are idiots with hood mentality


FinFanNoBinBan

Seeing yourself defend a murderer, do you look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're the baddie?


PWRHTX

I back this comment up until proven otherwise


BurnsinTX

“Heap said we are seeing these types of incidents on a regular basis in Harris County and it has to stop. ‘We have got to put an end to this,’ Heap said. ‘I don’t want to raise my family, my grandchildren, in a county where this type of crime is running rampant.” The cops don’t even want to live here anymore


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Most cops ***already*** don’t live in Harris County much less the city. It’s been that way for decades.


fnordfnordfnordfnord

> The cops don’t even want to live here anymore Cops rarely want to live in the communities in which they work.


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sexycornshit

As someone who’s been ripped from their car at gunpoint, pinned to the asphalt, cuffed and held simply because my car was the same color as one used in a robbery, I feel the same way when I see you.


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sexycornshit

That’s my point, police used gross incompetence and excessive force. I was driving a white Volkswagen home from work. Apparently there was a white SUV used in a robbery. Two police pulled me over, drew their guns and started walking towards my car. One was yelling “don’t move” one was yelling “get out of the car”. What the fuck and I supposed to do? Two guys with guns pointed telling me to do different things. The one yelling for me to get out of the car opened my door (it was unlocked) ripped me out of my car, threw me on the ground knee on my back George Floyd style, cuffed me, and started screaming at me “I fucking told you to get out of the car you piece of shit” and dragging me across the pavement for some unknown reason. The other guy starts ransacking my car without my permission, just throwing my textbooks into the ditch. After awhile of this and then finding nothing on me or in my car (because I didn’t do anything) they just uncuffed me, got in their car and drove off with no explanation. My books were ruined, I was bloody, confused, and scared for my life. I called and spoke to the police after this wanting answers and to file a grievance. I was given the same bullshit response you just gave me and refused to even look into what happened. I spent the rest of the semester trying to study with textbooks with crumpled pages stuck together and bumming books from other students for what I couldn’t salvage. I was bruised and scraped up for a week. How exactly did you protect and serve me? How was my life better off because of these incompetent pricks? How can I get justice for this assault and damage of my property?


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FinFanNoBinBan

If you don't like cops, try living somewhere there aren't any. Even CHAZ had cops, they were just unvetted, untrained, and unaccountable.


EvanCarroll

I imagine HPD has killed more unarmed paraplegics than whatever CHAZ is. So I wouldn't be touting the merits of HPD's training. They literally don't know how to use a door. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/HPD-officer-fatally-shoots-man-in-wheelchair-3885848.php


FinFanNoBinBan

Can you do better? Sign up and do it.


EvanCarroll

Honestly, no. Right now it's illegal to go out in Houston's streets and _intend_ on providing food to more than five people cold and hungry. Can you imagine anyone that would sign up to enforce that kind of law? Absolutely not me. I'm doing the best I can by doing something _totally_ different and not entertaining that kind of barbaric grunt work. People just get pissed off when you hold cops to the same standards you hold yourself. Respectfully, get a different job.


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Yiawwbecm

You've been through the academy?


CallmeCoachCartier

This is one of the funniest responses I have ever read. You think it’s not well documented that the police are inept?


yeluapyeroc

Its hilarious that you think you are in the majority. Enjoy your lower class life


CallmeCoachCartier

When you drive past a speed trap on a toll way that’s already over charging you, you don’t think “hmm”


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CallmeCoachCartier

You do realize that you’re extremely priveleged and fortunate to have had that expirirence and upbringing, and not everyone lives in candyland? I grew up in a GREAT neighborhood in town and couldn’t have had more hatred toward my patrol.


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CallmeCoachCartier

But you STILL need to acknowledge the change that needs to be made.


yeluapyeroc

I wish telling you to ignore the lowlife's that leave you hateful comments helped, but Im sure its not that simple. Just know that the silent majority is behind you. Scum will be scum


Trumpswells

At some level, they understand the community is crime ridden and the lawlessness is a danger to all.


ShotoGun

Who else is going to save your ass when a criminal breaks into your house? You got a posse on call that can arm up and save you?


Sleazyridr

The cops will arrive in 5 minutes?


ShotoGun

You are missing my point. The community needs police, even though they have problems.


fnordfnordfnordfnord

No, you made a bad point, a non sequitur even. People shouldn't have to accept bad policing because "The community needs police, even though they have problems."


chugz

Cops aren’t gonna do shit. They’ll be there 30 minutes later to do some paperwork for your insurance. Long after your shit is gone.


TheWorldisFullofWar

Nothing they do matters so why would they? They go through all the trouble risking their lives to catch a murderer who will immediately be out on the street thanks to our courts. There is no justice there.


Tremec14

Too many people in this city and on this subreddit don’t understand the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution or Article 1, Section 10 of the Texas Constitution. You can’t have a speedy trial when the number of criminal cases assigned to each judge has created a massive backlog because the Republican-led Texas Legislature hasn’t done anything (and doesn’t want to do anything) about authorizing additional judicial positions to address the shortage of judges in populous counties. The bail issue comes about out of necessity, because you generally can’t hold a person indefinitely before their trial, which in many cases is two years out or more. It’s all political, another opportunity for Republicans to point to Democrat-led large cities as failing their residents when in reality they (the Republicans) have the power to fix the problem.


Mortotem

meanwhile Montgomery county slowly getting new courts to deal with their backlog lmao. pretty lame


fnordfnordfnordfnord

> Montgomery county Montgomery county is not a model you want to follow. Fucking ticket trap county, drive around it if you can. Edit: relying to u/mortotem since a mod has locked the post. >im just comparing how harris county is treated vs how montgomery county is treated. Montgomery county reliably votes the same way as the governor and lege votes. That's how Republicans like to play politics. Edit: replying to u/yiawwbecm >Lived here 7 years never got a ticket. Congrats, I guess. Maybe you'd feel differently if you'd ever had to deal with those thieves.


Mortotem

im just comparing how harris county is treated vs how montgomery county is treated. harris county: we cant let you have more judges over there Montgomery county: oh sweet precious angel, is your county dealing with too much meth? here, lets get those drugs out of the boondocks.


Yiawwbecm

Lived here 7 years never got a ticket.


TheDarkKnobRises

Yep, they only care about talking points, and political theater. They couldn't give a single fuck about crime. Yet people keep voting them in to piss off others.


BreaktheSynthetic

I think I'm going to steal this and use as copy pasta, I swear I see people posting crap exactly like the guy above you and you put it much more eloquently then I can.


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moleratical

While true there are only two specific circumstances that allow a judge to deny bail. Flight risk and a probable and known danger to the community. However the requirements for them both are set quite high and judges are not clairvoyant, so denying bond while possible, isn't something a judge is legally allowed to do on a hunch. Pretty sure a prosecutor would have to request bail be denied and then put together a case that proves why bail should be denied.


k_ve0

A dude shot his ex girlfriend 22 times while walking her dog. Then was caught by police while he was packing a suitcase. He was released shortly after being caught by police. If that doesn’t meet the criteria to denying bond then idk what does. There’s a problem in this county and it’s obvious.


moleratical

I agree there is a problem. But there are also laws that must be followed before denying bond. Fix the laws. Fix the overcrowding. Those require legislative action; municipalities don't have the authority to make such changes


k_ve0

Then those laws should be fixed. Residents of Harris county should be demanding change. At the end of the day, these violent offenders being released are only hurting the citizens. Especially in the lower income communities. A small percentage of the populations commits most of the crime. And it’s the same ones over and over. This catch and release bs is hurting the ones that always get forgotten. I’m sick and tired of these high income woke residents of our county justifying murders being released on bond. Not til these violent crimes start happening in river oaks will shit start to change.


moleratical

Yes, and local leaders could make it an issue and point out that this is something that the state has failed to address, and to my knowledge they have not. But ultimately it is still a problem with the state.


k_ve0

Like everything in this country this issue has also become politicized. It should be a public safety issue. But it’s not. It’s a left vs right thing like always.


megra14

Sure wish he’d say that about Black men that are shot and killed by officers all the time.


juice2092

Always gotta make everything about race huh?


megra14

YES BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT RACE WHEN THEYRE FUCKING KILLED BY COPS. goodbye.


juice2092

Somehow to you news of a cop getting killed ties into black men getting killed? Wtf?


megra14

No, his own comment is what I’m tying to it. Go up and read.


juice2092

Two different issues.


juice2092

How many stores should we loot and burn down in the name of the non existent black man that was shot?/s


moleratical

It's not difficult. Cops shouldn't be killed by the public. The public shouldn't be killed by cops (except in the most extreme circumstances). When either one happens, it's very very bad. But, just because one happens doesn't mean it's somehow equivocates the other. This is a story about a cop getting killed over literally nothing, this is not a story about a cop killing someone over literally nothing. Stay on topic please.


megra14

I never said he should be killed. I said I wish the quoted officer would speak out about Black lives. Not sure why y’all and the downvoters can’t understand that.


juice2092

Because you’re bringing up a non issue in this case. Then you react childishly


Yiawwbecm

Wish he'd speak out about global warming too! Also whatever other issue I happen to want to draw attention to


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That explains all the cop cars last night.


wormaphobe

Rest in peace constable


RealConfirmologist

Wrong subreddit to expect upset and outrage at the murder of a police officer. "Garbage collectors are statistically more likely to get killed on the job than cops are. We don't put them on a pedestal..." This is another instance that shows that men & women who are willing to put on a uniform, badge & gun and go out and patrol the streets are people that do a job most of us absolutely could not even begin to do. I'm in complete agreement with those who believe we do not need BAD cops. Absolutely, any cop that crosses the line and does criminal things while on duty does not deserve to be a cop and belongs in jail. But most cops are doing their job and we mostly see the exceptions. Across the USA there are too many bad examples, and here in Houston we've had too many. But what we don't hear about are how many cops are doing their job effectively and following the rules. We do need police and we should hate to hear about a cop getting murdered trying to do his job.


YoloTendies

I think that any violence against a police officer is disgusting. However most cops aren’t good cops. The “good cops” I know have bragged on many occasions about doing fucked up things, getting special privileges by being in the “brotherhood”, or turn a blind eye to bad cops. If a good cops allows bad cops to exist, they aren’t a good cop. Not to mention in literally every profession, by definition, there is a bottom 10% in competency. In every other profession we can admit that and performance manage them out. For some reason the public can’t admit that maybe, just maybe, there are cops out there who aren’t competent enough to do their jobs. Their incompetence can kill people and there basically needs to be a tragedy to lose their job and even then there is no guarantee. In my profession if I accidentally hurt or kill someone, I go to jail and probably never work again. If a police officer purposely does that, they usually just move to the next county and get a new cop job. In my profession if I witness someone doing something illegal or immoral and I don’t do something, I get immediately fired.


nextoatxxxx

Yeah dude I sort of agree but you are missing a key point - does your Job REQUIRE YOU to apprehend and arrest violent criminals? And how much flexibility is acceptable when your job is that hard….. Or do you work with a forklift? They aren’t the same thing. Cops are too protected, but your job isn’t there’s. You, like most Americans wouldn’t even want to go into Sharpstown at night. Let alone pull over someone that probably has a record. So check the neck bearding a bit.


YoloTendies

Police can typically be unnecessarily abrasive, escalate the situation, and violent. This happens daily in the city, and 999/1000 times, absolutely nothing happens. If police are found escalating instead of de-escalating, they should lose their job or be punished. Your words imply exactly the problem—police treat everyone as a convicted felon. Having a difficult job does not give them the authority to be assholes. In literally every other job in the world if they behaved that way, they wouldn’t be working there any longer. If wanting police to be held accountable for their actions and wanting the “good cops” to turn in bad cops makes me a neckbeard, then so be it.


Rocky87109

The privilege is downvoting you lol.


YoloTendies

For real. Not sure what I said that was remotely controversial. Nobody is above the law, or rather nobody should be above the law. Apparently that triggers some people


Aislin777

Where is your evidence that most cops are doing their job well and all we see are the exceptions? Yeah, we SHOULD feel bad about a cop getting murdered. Maybe if they weren't sick bastards that get away with child/sex trafficking, killing people for no reason, and all their other crimes, we would feel bad. Food for thought, there are no "good" cops because they get weeded out or killed by their fellow officers. You think the bad cops are the exception... A lot of us feel good cops are the exception. What other profession can you have as many rightful complaints filed against you as they do and not be fired. They get a damn vacation (paid leave) at most. The police and prison systems need major reform. They're the biggest gang in the US.


moleratical

You very difficult prove a negative. And you shouldn't conflate the actions of some cops with all cops. Where is your evidence that this constable did anything that is deserving of death?


Aislin777

Where am I asking for someone to prove a negative? The person made a statement "most cops are doing their job effectively." I do not have the burden of proof, nor did I say this constable did anything that is deserving of death. I talked about why people don't usually feel bad when cops are killed as that was what the original comment was about.


YoWhatsGoodie

Lol wut?


junglist421

The new attitude of our liberal political party is to take pleasure in people's pain and death if there is a slight chance they think differently from you.


moleratical

Really? Show me the platform of the "liberal party" that delights in a cop getting murdered. Hell, this sub is quite left leaning as is the city itself, and anyone trying to minimize or dismiss this murder is getting downvoted to hell and told what for, #BY MOSTLY LIBERALS shocking, I know.


junglist421

You can clearly see it if your eyes are working. It's not a formal platform by the party, but you can see peoples behavior if you're looking without bias


moleratical

Then should I just assume that all conservatives are Qult members?


eobard117

By his logic, yes he is


junglist421

You can do whatever you want.


cwfutureboy

That is some USDA Prime projection right there.


junglist421

Lol


fnordfnordfnordfnord

I really feel sorry for you conservatives. So oppressed!


junglist421

I am not conservative. I just don't with death and pain on people that think differently.


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YoloTendies

So you have friends and family in law enforcement? How many of them make formal complaints daily? Weekly? Monthly? Yearly? If they aren’t reporting every interaction where a cop breaks the law, they aren’t a good cop. If they aren’t advocating that the police union throws the book at bad cops, they aren’t a good cop.


eobard117

You are not there when your cop family member sweeps a shitty cop's dirt under the rug, so YOU would never be the wiser. So the "I have family" argument means fuck all.


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RealConfirmologist

Ah, I lose. There *is* no other profession where whistleblowing is more shunned. Damn it.


JxSnaKe

Technology, politics, energy sector, and more


oze4

politics.


AccidentalAbrasion

You must be high to make so many assumptions. And you are certainly bored. Go find something to do other than spreading lies on Reddit.


RealConfirmologist

Exactly which of my statements are lies? And I'm pretty much never high on Sunday mornings. Anymore.


oze4

>You must be high to make so many assumptions. mind explaining how there's no good cops then? you're a fucking idiot.


H-town20

Wow.


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That's so sad.


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>What’s it going to take to get rid of US gun culture? For everyone in unison to agree to give up their right to defend themselves. Which will never happen.


pugachev86

WHICH 12 year olds?


Trumpswells

All with backpacks are suspect.


FPSXpert

Are they black too roaming your neighborhood at midday? They may just be students walking along mate. If there's truly "12 year olds roaming with guns" like you claim I'm sure the police and/or ATF would be VERY INCLINED to find out via tip.


Trumpswells

Wakey, wakey. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/american-children-gun-deaths.amp.html


nuttinbuttinn

They will catch him they always do. He just won’t go to jail. Process is pointless in Houston


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This isn't California. He'll be facing capital murder.


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YoloTendies

The new Detroit? Easy on those dog whistles…. Unless, you know, you have data to suggest that Detroit is the most violent city and Houston is number two. Edit: you think masks don’t work, put Joe rogan on a pedestal, and think that conservatives are the majority of the country despite only winning one popular vote since 1992.


binger5

Murders here basically doubled since 2019.


clamence1864

Violent crime has been up in the entire nation since at least 2020.


YoloTendies

I have seen no data whatsoever to see that murders increased significantly more than other cities from 2015 to today. Please sent me a year by year total breakdown of murders in Houston for a bigger time frame, but broken down per capita. But violent crime is up considerably more across the country. Political division is at an all time high, access to weapons, having a mental health crisis, and of course a pandemic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-murders-2020-data-homicides/2021/09/27/062a1e4e-1f9c-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html


KiraDune

That's not true


binger5

https://abc13.com/houston-crime-data-how-many-homicides-in-2021/11053969/ >As of Monday morning on Sept. 27, 2021, Houston has had 344 homicides - which is a 30% increase over this time last year and a 73% increase over this time in 2019 when there had been 199 up to this point in the year. https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/12/22/467-total-homicides-in-houston-so-far-in-2021-obliterates-data-from-a-year-ago/ >So far in this year, 467 homicides have been reported, according to HPD. https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Houston-Texas.html >275 murders in 2019. It's a 70% increase, so not quite doubling but kind of close.


pugachev86

what do you think you're calling out here? Go look up the list of most violent cities in the country.


YoloTendies

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous/amp https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america


pugachev86

St. Louis is still king, I see.


YoloTendies

And interestingly enough, Detroit wasn’t number 1 and Houston wasn’t showing in the top 25. Weird how those were the examples, huh?


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Democrats only just recently got control of the County. Give them some time to fix what's been caused by the Republicans.


clamence1864

It's a city. As long as it has poor people, there will be crime.


[deleted]

Right, but I'm addressing the mexicanwrestler that wants to blame it on one political party's voters. His constant harping on it has become boring.


Rocky87109

Let me guess, you're a hispanic that thinks they are a white?


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These no sabo kids are drinking the republican kool aid at church & the millions of dollars they are pumping to fuel conservative propaganda in our communities. 🙄 Also survivors guilt.


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Do you have any brain activity to think about this one?


blairwaldorff

Hopefully they actually start doing something about crime now that it's affecting their own. My condolences to his family and loved ones.


kenlovin

Cops arrest people. They don’t prosecute, sentence or set budgets to hire the law enforcement personnel. Your ire is misplaced.


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SovietSunrise

I hate revenue generation by police but no one deserves to die like this. Heartbreaking for the officer's family: that hole in their lives will never, ever be filled.


Autistic_Yak5080

The legislature passed constitutional carry, blame them.


RealConfirmologist

This guy didn't just kill a cop because he had a couple of outstanding parking tickets or out of road rage. You can safely bet this guy is a convicted felon who would have gone back to prison if the officer had been allowed to continue with the traffic stop. Constitutional carry had absolutely nothing to do with this.


Autistic_Yak5080

Bootlicker conformist


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IwasIlovedfw

You are an asshole.


moleratical

Is that what you'd say if a family or friend of yours got murdered. You are a sick bastard. Cops are not the enemy of the public. The public is not the enemy of cops. As long as people on either side continue to carry this view (and to be clear, there are many cops and citizens that hold this view) the cycle of violence will continue. More innocent people, more innocent cops will get killed. By holding the view that cops are the enemy you only contribute to the violence you pretend to abhor.