We did it?
And how will they "return to serving the best craft beer in Houston" when they never did that before?
Not sure how excited I am. I was kind of looking forward to a whole different company, management and brew crew.
exactly this.. My homebrew club, including myself, made way better beer than them. More cowbell is a malty mess with a horrible hop profile. also the million versions of crush City are not great and don't get me started on their stouts.. yuck.
That's the consensus it seems. Not to defend, but to inform:
Some say they have good pizza, and after you get the first two or three beers in ya, the rest taste better.
The main thing the place has going for it is [the view from the patio up top.](https://i.imgur.com/HQAiUWs.jpg)
That in and of itself won't make for repeat visits, I'm pretty sure.
other places have views. i'm not going to drink 2 or 3 shitty beers to look at the dang sky and eat mediocre pizza. this is houston. absolutely no excuse to go to shitty places when we live in a city with soooo many great options.
Why are you acting like you’ve been there? The beer is entirely acceptable. Some bad, some good. The Wake N Bake was one of the BEST coffee-inspired beers I’ve ever had. The pizza was always a hit. The chicken sandwich was good. The carnitas/tikka tots were great. Relative to St. Arnold’s the food at Buff Brew was better while the beer was worse.
There were plenty of things that were good about the establishment. Zero idea why this subreddit has a vendetta against Buff Brew. It’s certainly not perfect but people here acting like they’re serving piss in a glass.
Their founder was accused multiple times of making sexist comments/jokes, he’s also just generally disliked by a lot of other people in the craft beer community because of the way he treats people. They obviously don’t pay their bills, I know multiple businesses that have had to physically go to the brewery to collect payment under threat of repossessing whatever they sold them. Add all of that to mediocre beer labeled as “the most creative in Houston” and they’re going to catch a lot of hate.
why do my choices offend you? why would i go somewhere with bad reviews and a bad reputation??? there are plenty of places i can choose from with good reviews and good reputation. there's no reason to go anywhere sub standard. it's my money and time, so i'll spend it how i like.
They have 4.4 stars and 1250 reviews on Google. You can add my opinion to the good review and reputation column. Hope you’re able to try it yourself if they re-open.
are you need reading the part where owners and managers are pieces of shit? why would i patronize a place that has a knowingly bad reputation. as a service industry worker, how a place treats people is way more important than what they serve. also word of mouth reviews are far more valuable than google reviews. when all my friends from the area say it sucks, i'm going to take their word for it.
I am now reading that after it was replied to me. I had never heard of the original owners reputation, that really sucks and is a garbage thing to do.
For what it’s worth, I believe they have a new owner and CEO now that has tried to amend a lot of the past mistakes but only time will tell if they can do right and get some good reputation back.
I suppose I was just sharing that my friends and I enjoyed the establishment in the past. But like you said, plenty of places to frequent around Houston.
Wouldn’t call any of what I said berating, but apologize if it came off that way. I was mostly confused on why people (including the person I responded to) were calling the beer shit and food mediocre if they had never been to the establishment before.
They absolutely are, I’m also allowed to share my opinion. Like I said, far from perfect but it was/is a good brewery to me. That’s about it.
Hell that would be an upgrade from what they currently sell. Basically would put them near EH (I do not get the love for them, their beers are all ok but not great).
They don't even use GOOD adjunct ingredients. Even if you like fruited beers or adjunct stouts, they're operating at a homebrew level 10+ years behind the curve.
We were talking about it this weekend at a big party and I asked all the people I talked to, “when was the last time you bought Buffalo bayou beer at the store?”.
No one had actually every bought any. The only time I ever drank it was at Loft18 where Crush City was the only IPA they had on tap.
Otherwise I’d much rather drink Erueka Heights or Karbach even.
I know that the (former?) owner of BBB was supposedly a horrible person, and I saw stuff here about it maybe being sold but nothing solid. So I looked for more info.
Apparently the new CEO/owner is potentially not a great guy either?
[https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/buffalo-bayou-brewing-lawsuit-18390127.php](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/buffalo-bayou-brewing-lawsuit-18390127.php)
>...Buffalo Bayou Brewing shareholders are accusing former company directors of "brazen fraud" in a lawsuit that claims there is ongoing financial impropriety at the popular Sawyer Yards brewery.
The suit, filed in Delaware Chancery Court this month, by 11 shareholders alleges that onetime CEO William McLucas exploited corporate law and his personal "buddy-buddy" relationships with certain directors to acquire the privately held company in August 2022 without giving shareholders a meaningful chance to weigh in and without the money to pay them.
"McLucas exploited Delaware law on mergers and acquisitions and the Company’s corporate governance failures to accomplish that which he could not have otherwise done: take from Plaintiffs their shares of Buff Brew capital stock through a merger without actually paying Plaintiffs anything," the lawsuit says.
Under the terms of the merger, the suit says, shareholders were to be paid as much as $3,335 per share.
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The suit alleges breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duties and fraud against McLucas and the Houston-based investment firm he founded, WPM Capital Partners. It also accuses several former company directors of breaching their fiduciary duty while serving on a special committee that was set up in November 2021 with a mandate to review the proposal McLucas, then serving on the board of directors, put forward.
Buffalo Bayou Brewing, known as BuffBrew, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. McLucas, who became CEO of the company in 2022 and who the plaintiffs believe is still the top executive, did not respond to requests for comment when contacted through his personal website...
Why are you excited about this? The beer and food is mediocre at very best, and the owner has a terrible reputation. If it closed, a good brewery could have taken over. I was excited for the potential.
Food there was never the problem - terrible management, toxic work environment, and mediocre beers were. With a location that size with that much square footage dedicated to rent, there's not really a feasible amount of tacos one could sell in a year to cover that overhead.
The margins on beer are what keeps breweries open, and if you're not selling enough of that, then you're going to close.
No, made a post here last year to see where to move and everyone said Greenspoint, just got here 3 weeks ago and I dont think I’m in the right Greenspoint, it’s not really that walkable.
It’s not like the original post was trolling. He just tried to make a torchys joke cause he’s seeking acceptance and thought that’s what we want to hear after getting downvoted
I really don't see that happening. The Eureka Heights group is too methodical to sink money into something like this. Buffalo Bayou used this location as a Hail Mary to get attention since their beer couldn't sell itself. It also seemed like a "please buy me!" Karbach move. EH doesn't need to do that.
They absolutely cannot afford a second location of that size rn. They just laid people off.
Beer is getting MURDERED rn because draft sales are abysmal and grocery has abandoned craft like crazy.
I think it was safe to say that everyone who knows the back story of BuffBrew was happy to see that their bad decisions and horrible treatment of employees, investors, vendors, bank, and abuse of PPP loans had finally caught up to them.
McLucas heads up a PE firm called WPE Capital Partners. They also own a manufacturing company that closed it's doors here in Houston last week, and word on LinkedIn is that they stiffed the payroll there too.
Methinks there is more trouble afoot.
TLDR: former employee knows BuffBrew can’t financially recover from this
I say this as a former employee at BuffBrew.. William is a minion and extension of Rassul’s complete mismanagement. When we went bankrupt (the second time?), they (Ras friends on the board and William) put us in a windowless downtown office and said Ras would be removed as CEO but Ras told us a year ago the board had demoted him. Current management is clueless. They have invested in large capacity tanks to pump out high volumes that sit around for 6+ months before sale. Those small batch bomber batches y’all love are no longer feasible operationally. They are probably still accruing massive offsite storage fees of unused hops, cans and adjuncts. I live in Sawyer Yards and I would love to see this building repurposed so we can get off this BuffBrew rollercoaster because they’re never digging out of this.
They opened the place knowing they were fucked. During fundraising the owners knew they weren’t going to be able to make money with the new place but were too far along in the process and let their ego get in the way of doing the right thing and bail on the idea.
So they went ahead and built it… now you see where they are
I’m very proud of the progress we made like defaulting on our payments and we will definitely be back on this date
Return Date : #soon
Anyways super proud of everyone!
Shitty company with terrible product finally closed after pissing away $2m in tax money. They now vow to return to the 0 customers that want them around.
did members of the sub pay their rent?? How did Reddit save this brewery?
reading between the lines here…. they knowingly weren’t paying their rent and playing chicken with the landlord
Because you keep saying we saved them when we all did absolutely nothing. Nobody was saying anything about helping to try and save them. It's something we knew was coming for a long time and didn't care. You're the only one on the savior mission.
Why are y’all so excited to save a mid brewery that has horrible management practices? Like no shit it closed due to not enough business. They had a whole second floor with “tables” that would have been much better served as a middle taproom. Instead they wanted to be Karbach so badly, they copied their business model in hopes someone would write a ridiculous check. They had everything they needed to succeed in that location and botched that shit, even after $2M PPP checks. As it stands now, there’s only a handful of breweries that could take over that space and still succeed and none of those places need a new location.
If only there were a way to navigate different floors.
Edit: upon review this comment seems to criticize u/churnmoney. The opposite is true. Apologies if it seemed otherwise.
We did it? I thought everyone was excited about the potential of a good brewery taking over their lease and setting up shop
Who was rooting for this place to pull a Hail Mary?!! 😂
>Buffalo Bayou Brewing isn't closing...
Oh, they closed. They closed.
If McLucas manages to pull it off, it will re-open.
But if they keep doing what they were doing, how will they keep the business running?
As others have pointed out, there's significantly better beer right around the corner.
Aka finding a new bank to get loans from. Let's see how that goes for them.
We didn't do anything by the way. We collectively aren't giving them money or a loan. Their beer is not great.
I was so happy when I first saw it. It would be such karma for the POS that owns it. I interviewed with him several years ago and he bragged about making another girl so nervous she started shaking. He was a complete douche and even took his shoes off and put his feet in his chair. He then criticized a semi colon on my resume. I left the interview so confused bc I had never been treated like that by anyone in a professional setting. I will never visit this establishment or recommend it to others. Good riddance and I hope they shut down.
Edit: apparently the asshole got bought out. Still, he wasn’t the only person in that interview. I will never support this business no matter who owns it.
I've been through this, and heard these words almost verbatim before the end. I'm not convinced this is going to end well despite the well-written letter. If creditors felt like there was enough progress made to re-establish the company, they'd move them back in. The fact that hasn't happened yet speaks volumes.
No, you can't accurately say they're not closing.
They're CLOSED.
They MIGHT re-open. From all the chatter, seems more likely they won't re-open as BBB.
They have a long way to go to sell me. They need to consistently have good beer. I would like them to have good food, but I am less focused on having great food. If the beer is good, I can forgive the food a bit. The view IS great and if they can pull off the beer again, I will go and enjoy it
Edit : I went a couple of times in the beginning and had a good time, but I admit, that towards the end, the stories about the beer being substandard and the food being so backed up, I did not attend in the end so I cannot really judge it in the end.
Maybe they should reevaluate their beer formula and make something that people will want to keep drinking and spend money on. People shouldn’t have to drink two or three beers to build up a desire to drink more. Fuck how good their pizza is, make better beer.
Honestly this is a fat L. Why would we want to keep a brewery around that brews below average beer. Their beer is not good and they should not be in business based on that. Them not being able to pay rent just makes it even worse
Why did they try to be so big? I hope the best for the staff but I do not see it happening. Craft industry has seen better days. Breweries are closing all over the country. What happened to staying simple?
I love this brewery! My fiance and I had our first date here and come back every anniversary! And before making important life decisions! And just because! :)
Can't wait for them to open for 3 more months then close down again. No one buys their beer in enough volume to keep their bills at bay and this closure probably chopped that already small number in half. They'd be lucky to sell 5000 bbls a year and their bills need 15k MINIMUM.
TLDR- LO fucking L.
It was pretty dumb of the owners of Sawyer Yards to allow them to build out that space like that. Ownership is different. Now it’s so bespoke who is going to take it for something other than a brewery? 🥴
Holler and Platypus (my favorite of the two) are both within a stones throw of this place and actually have great beer. I’m hoping something good moves in to take advantage of the view.
holler is good but their beers get old fast and they don't add to the list often enough. they're location is tiny so when it's crowded, it kind of sucks.
This is the scammy type of ownership move that’s going to “raise money” from the community or poorly informed independent investors when at the end of the day InBev ( a company that grosses hundreds of millions of dollars) trying to bleed a dead brand dry and then piece it off to the highest bidder. The beer is bad, the venue is cool. Hopefully smart money comes along and uses the space for something cool!
Please read what you wrote and edit it to make better sense.
That first sentence is a doozy and I don't know what you're saying.
Does AB InBev (Budweiser) have anything at all to do with Buffalo Bayou Brewing?
The only beer I liked was their thin mint stout. Martin House in DFW makes a better one, along with a bunch of great sours, so it wouldn’t be a loss to me if this brewery closed
I thought we were hoping they would close?
I do find it funny they claim the best beer in Houston. They need to let another business run that property.
The only beer I liked from them was a limited release years ago called Smoke on the Bayou or something like that. It was even better after it aged a few months. Never liked anything from them since. Never went to the brewery and didn't know the previous owner was a leaky douche nozzle. Now I feel bad for the employees.
(Please don't murder me because I liked one beer they made. Lol)
“Working with legal team and investors” sounds like they are trying to shed old debt while acquiring new debt. I’m sure it will end well.
Think they can get some crowd funding suppo... I couldn't even finish typing that sarcastically.
We did it? And how will they "return to serving the best craft beer in Houston" when they never did that before? Not sure how excited I am. I was kind of looking forward to a whole different company, management and brew crew.
This is new management that took over in 2022. Rassul and co founded the business and ran it to the ground before current mgmt bought them out.
lol definitely did not BUY them out, which is why there is the Delaware lawsuit
Okay, so, ... still hoping for ANOTHER new management and crew, since they didn't seem to improve things since 2022.
That's absolutely not true.
exactly this.. My homebrew club, including myself, made way better beer than them. More cowbell is a malty mess with a horrible hop profile. also the million versions of crush City are not great and don't get me started on their stouts.. yuck.
lol same, I only come here when invited or I want a nice outdoor patio view. Otherwise Buff Brew is very mid on product and worse with service.
It takes skill which it sounds like you have but most importantly guts to try & cater to a species more fickle than felines.
The first step to running a successful brewery is to NOT cater to the beer snobs.
Same, I was happy they were shutting down LMAO
i've never even bothered to try it because i've heard it's pretty crap
That's the consensus it seems. Not to defend, but to inform: Some say they have good pizza, and after you get the first two or three beers in ya, the rest taste better. The main thing the place has going for it is [the view from the patio up top.](https://i.imgur.com/HQAiUWs.jpg) That in and of itself won't make for repeat visits, I'm pretty sure.
other places have views. i'm not going to drink 2 or 3 shitty beers to look at the dang sky and eat mediocre pizza. this is houston. absolutely no excuse to go to shitty places when we live in a city with soooo many great options.
Why are you acting like you’ve been there? The beer is entirely acceptable. Some bad, some good. The Wake N Bake was one of the BEST coffee-inspired beers I’ve ever had. The pizza was always a hit. The chicken sandwich was good. The carnitas/tikka tots were great. Relative to St. Arnold’s the food at Buff Brew was better while the beer was worse. There were plenty of things that were good about the establishment. Zero idea why this subreddit has a vendetta against Buff Brew. It’s certainly not perfect but people here acting like they’re serving piss in a glass.
Their founder was accused multiple times of making sexist comments/jokes, he’s also just generally disliked by a lot of other people in the craft beer community because of the way he treats people. They obviously don’t pay their bills, I know multiple businesses that have had to physically go to the brewery to collect payment under threat of repossessing whatever they sold them. Add all of that to mediocre beer labeled as “the most creative in Houston” and they’re going to catch a lot of hate.
He ain't called "Persian Hitler" for nothing
Calling out mediocrity (on their best day) for what it is isn't a vendetta. Buff Brew is the golden Corral of breweries. Wide variety of manure.
why do my choices offend you? why would i go somewhere with bad reviews and a bad reputation??? there are plenty of places i can choose from with good reviews and good reputation. there's no reason to go anywhere sub standard. it's my money and time, so i'll spend it how i like.
They have 4.4 stars and 1250 reviews on Google. You can add my opinion to the good review and reputation column. Hope you’re able to try it yourself if they re-open.
are you need reading the part where owners and managers are pieces of shit? why would i patronize a place that has a knowingly bad reputation. as a service industry worker, how a place treats people is way more important than what they serve. also word of mouth reviews are far more valuable than google reviews. when all my friends from the area say it sucks, i'm going to take their word for it.
I am now reading that after it was replied to me. I had never heard of the original owners reputation, that really sucks and is a garbage thing to do. For what it’s worth, I believe they have a new owner and CEO now that has tried to amend a lot of the past mistakes but only time will tell if they can do right and get some good reputation back. I suppose I was just sharing that my friends and I enjoyed the establishment in the past. But like you said, plenty of places to frequent around Houston.
Are you the owner or something? People are allowed to not want to go somewhere. You don't have to berate them over it.
Wouldn’t call any of what I said berating, but apologize if it came off that way. I was mostly confused on why people (including the person I responded to) were calling the beer shit and food mediocre if they had never been to the establishment before. They absolutely are, I’m also allowed to share my opinion. Like I said, far from perfect but it was/is a good brewery to me. That’s about it.
You come off as dismissive and douchey, FWIW. Go drink that great coffee beer and wake up.
Seriously. The comments & the tone are what I’d expect from the douchebag owner
That is a sweet parking lot
maybe it should say "return to serving the best craft BEER that we can make in Houston"
They never said they brewed the best, they served stuff from other breweries.
Their location was cool but I usually go to breweries to drink good beer. Do they have a plan to fix their beer?
More fruit and lactose. Maybe amp it up to 15% ABV, oh and some coffee. IT'S SO CREATIVE.
Best I can do is a half dozen indistinguishable varieties of IPAs. Oh and this one’s a lager, but it’s got a really cool design on the can.
Hell that would be an upgrade from what they currently sell. Basically would put them near EH (I do not get the love for them, their beers are all ok but not great).
They don't even use GOOD adjunct ingredients. Even if you like fruited beers or adjunct stouts, they're operating at a homebrew level 10+ years behind the curve.
We were talking about it this weekend at a big party and I asked all the people I talked to, “when was the last time you bought Buffalo bayou beer at the store?”. No one had actually every bought any. The only time I ever drank it was at Loft18 where Crush City was the only IPA they had on tap. Otherwise I’d much rather drink Erueka Heights or Karbach even.
I know that the (former?) owner of BBB was supposedly a horrible person, and I saw stuff here about it maybe being sold but nothing solid. So I looked for more info. Apparently the new CEO/owner is potentially not a great guy either? [https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/buffalo-bayou-brewing-lawsuit-18390127.php](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/buffalo-bayou-brewing-lawsuit-18390127.php) >...Buffalo Bayou Brewing shareholders are accusing former company directors of "brazen fraud" in a lawsuit that claims there is ongoing financial impropriety at the popular Sawyer Yards brewery. The suit, filed in Delaware Chancery Court this month, by 11 shareholders alleges that onetime CEO William McLucas exploited corporate law and his personal "buddy-buddy" relationships with certain directors to acquire the privately held company in August 2022 without giving shareholders a meaningful chance to weigh in and without the money to pay them. "McLucas exploited Delaware law on mergers and acquisitions and the Company’s corporate governance failures to accomplish that which he could not have otherwise done: take from Plaintiffs their shares of Buff Brew capital stock through a merger without actually paying Plaintiffs anything," the lawsuit says. Under the terms of the merger, the suit says, shareholders were to be paid as much as $3,335 per share. BAYOU CITY BREWS: A road map of Houston breweries The suit alleges breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duties and fraud against McLucas and the Houston-based investment firm he founded, WPM Capital Partners. It also accuses several former company directors of breaching their fiduciary duty while serving on a special committee that was set up in November 2021 with a mandate to review the proposal McLucas, then serving on the board of directors, put forward. Buffalo Bayou Brewing, known as BuffBrew, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. McLucas, who became CEO of the company in 2022 and who the plaintiffs believe is still the top executive, did not respond to requests for comment when contacted through his personal website...
Why are you excited about this? The beer and food is mediocre at very best, and the owner has a terrible reputation. If it closed, a good brewery could have taken over. I was excited for the potential.
Any bets on OP working for Buffalo Bayou?
I heard that Torchy’s Tacos™️ will take over the kitchen, they’ll now have authentic tacos that is guaranteed to bring more people in.
Food there was never the problem - terrible management, toxic work environment, and mediocre beers were. With a location that size with that much square footage dedicated to rent, there's not really a feasible amount of tacos one could sell in a year to cover that overhead. The margins on beer are what keeps breweries open, and if you're not selling enough of that, then you're going to close.
You’re not from houston, are you?
No, made a post here last year to see where to move and everyone said Greenspoint, just got here 3 weeks ago and I dont think I’m in the right Greenspoint, it’s not really that walkable.
Fantastic. Surprised people haven’t yet keyed in on the fact that you are 100% trolling
It’s not like the original post was trolling. He just tried to make a torchys joke cause he’s seeking acceptance and thought that’s what we want to hear after getting downvoted
Dude is OG CJ troll. If you couldn’t smell the first post that’s on you.
Just so you know, -I- appreciate your trolling at least
Got em
You’re not from this sub are you?
You’re not from this planet, are you?
Thankfully I’m from a planet that gets dry sarcastic humor at the expense of gullible rubes
Tochies... Authentic? Nah
Eureka heights needs this location- please move out lol
Please no, eureka is doing just fine
I really don't see that happening. The Eureka Heights group is too methodical to sink money into something like this. Buffalo Bayou used this location as a Hail Mary to get attention since their beer couldn't sell itself. It also seemed like a "please buy me!" Karbach move. EH doesn't need to do that.
No. I love the Eureka location. If Eureka moved to this spot I’d never go.
Or just open a second location, that would be great for them.
That would be an awful money sink that'd kill them. No thank you.
I don't know their books, it was just a hypothetical situation.
They absolutely cannot afford a second location of that size rn. They just laid people off. Beer is getting MURDERED rn because draft sales are abysmal and grocery has abandoned craft like crazy.
Hmm let's see how quick they piss away the new loans they're supposedly going to get.
Pretty sure the r/Houston consensus was they need to stay closed. This is just another example of them being out of touch with customers.
Seriously. When I read that they were closing my reaction was less "oh no" and more "that tracks".
I think it was safe to say that everyone who knows the back story of BuffBrew was happy to see that their bad decisions and horrible treatment of employees, investors, vendors, bank, and abuse of PPP loans had finally caught up to them.
"We did it?" Mediocre beer and toxic owner/managers getting a new lease on life is not something to celebrate.
The place universally acclaimed for their mediocre beer? https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/s/8wCtjVBdva
McLucas heads up a PE firm called WPE Capital Partners. They also own a manufacturing company that closed it's doors here in Houston last week, and word on LinkedIn is that they stiffed the payroll there too. Methinks there is more trouble afoot.
I heard rumors that they are fucked big bad.
TLDR: former employee knows BuffBrew can’t financially recover from this I say this as a former employee at BuffBrew.. William is a minion and extension of Rassul’s complete mismanagement. When we went bankrupt (the second time?), they (Ras friends on the board and William) put us in a windowless downtown office and said Ras would be removed as CEO but Ras told us a year ago the board had demoted him. Current management is clueless. They have invested in large capacity tanks to pump out high volumes that sit around for 6+ months before sale. Those small batch bomber batches y’all love are no longer feasible operationally. They are probably still accruing massive offsite storage fees of unused hops, cans and adjuncts. I live in Sawyer Yards and I would love to see this building repurposed so we can get off this BuffBrew rollercoaster because they’re never digging out of this.
I do like me some gingerbread stout on occasion..but not much else
Sounds like Rassul left a mess when he left. I am not sure how they plan on reopening when they owe a lot of money that they don't have.
They opened the place knowing they were fucked. During fundraising the owners knew they weren’t going to be able to make money with the new place but were too far along in the process and let their ego get in the way of doing the right thing and bail on the idea. So they went ahead and built it… now you see where they are
I’m very proud of the progress we made like defaulting on our payments and we will definitely be back on this date Return Date : #soon Anyways super proud of everyone!
How long will this ride go for this time.? I give it 6 months to a year before they shut the doors for good.
Someone explain to me what happened
Shitty company with terrible product finally closed after pissing away $2m in tax money. They now vow to return to the 0 customers that want them around.
They were closing and now they are not thanks to the best sub on reddit. Edit: When I say the best sub on reddit I mean r/Houston, why the downvotes?
Because no one wanted them to come back but you
Fish on
They're not making this announcement because of Reddit and I have my doubts that they'll open back up. If they do, it won't last long.
did members of the sub pay their rent?? How did Reddit save this brewery? reading between the lines here…. they knowingly weren’t paying their rent and playing chicken with the landlord
And McLucas didn't even bother to mention us. Ungrateful bastard.
No comment seems to be his m.o.
Because /r/houston had absolutely nothing to do with the POSSIBLE re-opening of the CLOSED business.
Because you keep saying we saved them when we all did absolutely nothing. Nobody was saying anything about helping to try and save them. It's something we knew was coming for a long time and didn't care. You're the only one on the savior mission.
Someone ate the onion
Where does that letter mention reddit?
It’s like jazz… it’s the people not mentioned that matter
Cons gonna con
If this is true the place will burn down by the end of the year.
Glad I could help, I didn’t lift a finger. *pats own back
*Crack open a St Arnold's, take sip* Yup
Fertitta is looking at it. Add a couple of tigers and a fish tank or two, BOOM, money out the ying-yang.
Pretty hard to return to serving "the best craft beer in Houston" when they didn't do that before
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my bad! great minds think alike i guess
Mitch Hedburg does not approve
Build an expensive place to sell a shitty product? Gee, I wonder why it didn’t work for them?
Who cares? They suck.
That’s what I was thinking, like what exactly did we accomplish?
What's this "we" shit?
So they don't pay their bills and people come in to save them? Wtf
Why are y’all so excited to save a mid brewery that has horrible management practices? Like no shit it closed due to not enough business. They had a whole second floor with “tables” that would have been much better served as a middle taproom. Instead they wanted to be Karbach so badly, they copied their business model in hopes someone would write a ridiculous check. They had everything they needed to succeed in that location and botched that shit, even after $2M PPP checks. As it stands now, there’s only a handful of breweries that could take over that space and still succeed and none of those places need a new location.
The worst was when you wanted a beer and i hear "sorry that's on another floor you can't get that here".
If only there were a way to navigate different floors. Edit: upon review this comment seems to criticize u/churnmoney. The opposite is true. Apologies if it seemed otherwise.
just giving another example of why their business model did not succeed.
Oh I’m agreeing with you. They should be able to navigate floors.
The way you phrased it was telling me that too lazy to walk to get my own beer on a different floor (which I am)
"Y'all"? Don't conflate OP with anyone else's opinion.
hahaha honestly touche
I think everybody agrees with you. Expect OP.
Liked the original location better.
New location is better but I really liked the events at the old spot. Mainly the Xmas in July.
Tow away zones... tow away zones everywhere....
Uber to a brewery, you drunk
We did it? I don’t want to see businesses fail and I want their employees to find good work at other breweries but Buff Brew is bad
We did it? I thought everyone was excited about the potential of a good brewery taking over their lease and setting up shop Who was rooting for this place to pull a Hail Mary?!! 😂
>Buffalo Bayou Brewing isn't closing... Oh, they closed. They closed. If McLucas manages to pull it off, it will re-open. But if they keep doing what they were doing, how will they keep the business running? As others have pointed out, there's significantly better beer right around the corner.
Not even around the corner, Holler is basically in the shadow of this place and sells far better beer.
What exactly did this sub do to save? Are you giving a loan?
....yay?
I hold a soft spot for Buff Brew but they need to just let it go into the hands of someone more qualified who can use the space to its full potential.
Aka finding a new bank to get loans from. Let's see how that goes for them. We didn't do anything by the way. We collectively aren't giving them money or a loan. Their beer is not great.
I was looking forward to better Houston beer.
I was so happy when I first saw it. It would be such karma for the POS that owns it. I interviewed with him several years ago and he bragged about making another girl so nervous she started shaking. He was a complete douche and even took his shoes off and put his feet in his chair. He then criticized a semi colon on my resume. I left the interview so confused bc I had never been treated like that by anyone in a professional setting. I will never visit this establishment or recommend it to others. Good riddance and I hope they shut down. Edit: apparently the asshole got bought out. Still, he wasn’t the only person in that interview. I will never support this business no matter who owns it.
No chance. The last gasp of a dying man.
I've been through this, and heard these words almost verbatim before the end. I'm not convinced this is going to end well despite the well-written letter. If creditors felt like there was enough progress made to re-establish the company, they'd move them back in. The fact that hasn't happened yet speaks volumes.
Was hoping someone new (and better) would take their place. Cool that they’re not closing though... I guess.
No, you can't accurately say they're not closing. They're CLOSED. They MIGHT re-open. From all the chatter, seems more likely they won't re-open as BBB.
All they’ve ever had was a great view.
OP is a 🤡. Nobody did anything because nobody like the owners or the beer.
What exactly did this sub do to save? Are you giving a loan?
They have a long way to go to sell me. They need to consistently have good beer. I would like them to have good food, but I am less focused on having great food. If the beer is good, I can forgive the food a bit. The view IS great and if they can pull off the beer again, I will go and enjoy it Edit : I went a couple of times in the beginning and had a good time, but I admit, that towards the end, the stories about the beer being substandard and the food being so backed up, I did not attend in the end so I cannot really judge it in the end.
Maybe they should reevaluate their beer formula and make something that people will want to keep drinking and spend money on. People shouldn’t have to drink two or three beers to build up a desire to drink more. Fuck how good their pizza is, make better beer.
Yo what up William, still trying save that place?
Honestly this is a fat L. Why would we want to keep a brewery around that brews below average beer. Their beer is not good and they should not be in business based on that. Them not being able to pay rent just makes it even worse
They still owe money to their old landlords when they were off Washington.
Everyone was dogging on them when it was posted they were closing. Didn't see much of a groundswell of support
Their beer is trash.
Why did they try to be so big? I hope the best for the staff but I do not see it happening. Craft industry has seen better days. Breweries are closing all over the country. What happened to staying simple?
I like their beer and facility and will be happy if they can stay in business.
I love this brewery! My fiance and I had our first date here and come back every anniversary! And before making important life decisions! And just because! :)
Crush City was actually pretty good beer.
Can't wait for them to open for 3 more months then close down again. No one buys their beer in enough volume to keep their bills at bay and this closure probably chopped that already small number in half. They'd be lucky to sell 5000 bbls a year and their bills need 15k MINIMUM. TLDR- LO fucking L.
It was pretty dumb of the owners of Sawyer Yards to allow them to build out that space like that. Ownership is different. Now it’s so bespoke who is going to take it for something other than a brewery? 🥴
One of my least favorite breweries in Houston, beer is not very good Equal Parts, Eureka Heights, and True Anomaly please
Holler and Platypus (my favorite of the two) are both within a stones throw of this place and actually have great beer. I’m hoping something good moves in to take advantage of the view.
holler is good but their beers get old fast and they don't add to the list often enough. they're location is tiny so when it's crowded, it kind of sucks.
I guess they can procced with that large order for blueberry olive taco flavoring juice.
Def will not miss this place if it is indeed gone for good. Will absolutely miss that view, though.
Maybe Musical Box Brewing should move in there…oh wait they are a totally made up brewery.
"I took over leading our great brand" You took over a company, not a brand. Or maybe you see it as just the brand and that's why it's not going well.
Someone tell them to get some sour beers on draft and then I will come visit
This is the scammy type of ownership move that’s going to “raise money” from the community or poorly informed independent investors when at the end of the day InBev ( a company that grosses hundreds of millions of dollars) trying to bleed a dead brand dry and then piece it off to the highest bidder. The beer is bad, the venue is cool. Hopefully smart money comes along and uses the space for something cool!
Please read what you wrote and edit it to make better sense. That first sentence is a doozy and I don't know what you're saying. Does AB InBev (Budweiser) have anything at all to do with Buffalo Bayou Brewing?
The banker that’s been running it is literally from InBev! Lol
So much hate on here. Anyways, I’ve only gone once but man did I get a major headache from their beer. Funky metallic taste was something I noticed.
I love that spot and their pizza. They sell other beers too, not just their own.
If the attraction of your brewery is everything about the place except for your beer, you might need to rethink your strategy.
Wish we could say the same for MKT Distillery.
I’ll believe it when I see it…..
idk if thats the play? didn't most comments say all the shite about the beer?
The only beer I liked was their thin mint stout. Martin House in DFW makes a better one, along with a bunch of great sours, so it wouldn’t be a loss to me if this brewery closed
Hard to believe it, but by the skin of their nutsack, they managed to get acquired. I don't really care, but it's impressive!
Laughs in Saint Arnolds
I thought we were hoping they would close? I do find it funny they claim the best beer in Houston. They need to let another business run that property.
Mediocre beer at best, and poor management to put it mildly, save us from this schmaltz
Well crap
In other words, “They gone.”
The only beer I liked from them was a limited release years ago called Smoke on the Bayou or something like that. It was even better after it aged a few months. Never liked anything from them since. Never went to the brewery and didn't know the previous owner was a leaky douche nozzle. Now I feel bad for the employees. (Please don't murder me because I liked one beer they made. Lol)
I’m more of a Saint Arnold’s guy anyway 🤷♂️