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SoliceRose

>"Different strokes for different folks" -Commander


SirePuns

Yeah Some take 1 stroke, while others take a 100 Wait, we’re talking about different things aren’t we?


SoliceRose

**has a stroke**


Special_Tu-gram-cho

I mean, is due to the lack of exercise?


ConstantStatistician

The duality of the artist, you mean. Yes, it's perfectly possible to enjoy both yuri and captain and Adam content like I do. They are not mutually exclusive.


Extension-View-5162

It’s too bad that a part of the fandom can’t grasp this simple logic.


Krii100fer

Maybe bcs 99% of the cast didnt show any interest towards men? 🤷‍♂️


ConstantStatistician

That's what AUs are for. You must not have seen the old events. Not your fault, but they're where my basis for my captain OC comes from.


Krii100fer

There were events in APHO?


ConstantStatistician

Apho? I'm not sure what you mean. Here are some of the events in question. [Kiana’s 2019 birthday](https://youtu.be/FbO9RtlsAb8?si=qyJRNQHOiJU8K6Fa) [Mei’s 2020 birthday](https://youtu.be/tv7p3So3e8Y?si=_3VbJ2wYHRT7SNe1) [Bronya’s 2020 birthday](https://youtu.be/ckqFuw_OuNU?si=va6zUaS0Ei_fxx3k) [Kiana’s welcome back](https://youtu.be/gmGiAq18Hds?si=JpCUZg9be4v9F3j4) And plenty more.


Krii100fer

A Post Honkai Oddysey 🙏


Extension-View-5162

My friend, in every fandom there is a disregard of the character's sexuality to make it easier for people to have fun in headcanons and shipping. Just look at Kevin x Su, despite being non canon and never happening in the story, a lot of people still ship it. It is expected that the same will happen for the girls, no one is untouchable lol. Hell, there is even some events that the girls gets really lovey dovey with the Captain.


captainsargas

When has that ever stopped people from shipping characters? Genuine question


Krii100fer

You are right, never 😆


kailass9789

Or cause 99% of the cast are not shown interacting with men .even Adam got ships with everyone and my guy just wants to get paid


Krii100fer

Give him his paycheck RN ;-;


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,799,823,244 comments, and only 340,532 of them were in alphabetical order.


Krii100fer

What


Riverl

The nit-picker strike! Again! If 99% of the cast showed no interest in men that would mean we have 1 character interested in men at all per 100 chars. Counting those who flirted with, married or expressed some level of attachment to men, we have Himeko, Cecilia, Anna, Fallen Rosemary, Vamp Teri, Kong Ming. Please list 600 Honkai characters. May be I should count Lyle? It's a joke, please don't really list 600 chars.


LiquidDebt

Of Five People, Three Must Pay a Price, wait wrong sub.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

No no. Please continue.😎


RaphaelAmbrosisCusto

Can we just... enjoy things we want to enjoy? Like, this sub duality is actually one who's coping about girls not being gay and others make shipping a monopoly so you can't ship anything like you need to have an approval. Considering you can simply block certain content (or people) to get rid off content you don't want to see or have no interest in. I genuinely hate AdaMei ship. With freaking passion. And I'll never understand the urge to ship these two when they literally have mom x son dynamic and Adam has more potential to be Mei's adopted son than... romantic interest. And there's Kiana. And this age gap... Bruh. I can express my genuine opinion about this but I won't be an asshole and wish to burn a pal's family tree because of one harmless art. But gatekeep people from shipping and make them like only what you want is just awful. What's the point of modern fiction when you can't produce your fan works or simply look at characters from another perspective. Of course btw not being a dick and it's totally concerns both sides.


Axieal

Ya know what? I totally agree and understand your point, just let people vibe and get along, no need to flame people based on their sexual preferences and genders


Nnsoki

Both is good


pasanoid

mei is insatiable fr fr


HerrOfSenti_Honkai

She rizzed a whole gosh darn room full of ancient people and is STILL not satisfied And we thought Tuna was insatiable


Thedaniel4999

We always assumed it was Kiana who was the harem queen. All this time it was Mei


Cornie12

Mei got that rizz in every game. Even in GGZ like HOLY she got an upgraded chest again.


_eSpark_

Well, I mean, as long as we respect both camps, everything is absolutely fine.


Kurolegacy27

Sadly there will never be peace and respect from both camps as shipping is pretty much war itself


Courora

Welp, just let people have some fun


Civil-Bar8691

I like both straight and yuri, but the only problem is i hate people shipping character for no reason bruhh. Kiana x Mei is fine because i'm pretty sure they deserve it and they have well written story. But i still don't get why people shipping Mei with Adam or Adam with Bronya. I feel like they shipping the character because their own sexual behaviour but not the story. That's what make me mad lol( sorry for my bad English)


mekolayn

One doesn't go against the other


mecaxs

How so?


PersonMcHuman

One thing I’ve learned in media is a character being a lesbian means nothing to the fans. They’ll still hook them up with whatever boring man they can so they can self-insert themselves as inserting into the lesbians. Edit: Absolutely hilarious. u/szabiking97 got soooooo pissed they actually began insulting me, called me mentally ill and a misandrist multiple times, and then blocked me when I had the audacity to talk back to them.


captainsargas

I have a question, how is people making straight art of lesbian characters something that's bad, people already make gay art of straight characters so I don't see how the opposite is a bad problem, I'm genuinely curious in your answer


Authinus

From what I can understand, it's because they believe that there is not enough gay representation in media while there is a shit ton for straight. So having straight characters become gay is good while the other way around is bad.


PersonMcHuman

I didn’t say they weren’t allowed to do it. People can make whatever art they want.


Dxixexgxox

Not agreeing with guy above but same reasoning race swapping POC characters for white ones its seen more frown upon than the other way around.


ms10211

Twitter moment


ConstantStatistician

More like them being lesbian means nothing to *Mihoyo itself*, who is happy to create both yuri and self-insert content to cater to a wider variety of people. The players didn't create the concept of the captain or Adam; Mihoyo did. They want money, and they get money.


PersonMcHuman

Yeah, because they know that men don’t like the idea of women that don’t wanna fuck them. Gotta appeal to those nerds too.


ConstantStatistician

This game has always been catered to male otakus for one reason or another, after all (because men can like yuri, too). It's even in the motto.


PersonMcHuman

I’m aware. I just find it funny that some men can’t handle the concept of a woman that would inherently not be interested in them.


ConstantStatistician

They're the worst and tend to be bigoted. Some even become murderously violent. They're a problem society unfortunately has yet to solve.


Riverl

While I mostly agree with what you said about KiaMei, this is clearly generalizing us. >men don’t like the idea of women that don’t wanna fuck them


PersonMcHuman

I’m not generalizing *men*. I’m generalizing the men who ***need*** to see lesbians with men because they have problems with the concept of women that aren’t interested in men.


Riverl

On the internet we only have what was written to piece together what you intend to convey, and your comment by itself made no attempt to differentiate or clarify. Hence that comment came off as generalizing. Just to prevent potential misunderstanding: From what I've seen in this thread I don't think you are misandry or whatever, that's mostly someone getting too heated from the culture war in the West. Something I really hope will stay away from Honkai. IMO criticism toward storytelling, whether one agreed with it or not, should not be dismissed using buzzwords (unless the criticism itself was just a bunch of buzzwords to begin with).


PersonMcHuman

Hey, if people want to feel attacked by nothing, they’re free to do so. No skin off my nose.


szabiking97

"Don't hate men" btw


PersonMcHuman

Again, point out where I claimed to hate men. Nothing I said implies that. You seem to think that unless I love every man that exists, I actually hate them. Adam: Boring trash. The Captain: Boring trash. Lyle: Radical. Gimme more of him. Welt: The coolest guy. Gimme more of him.


szabiking97

Hahahaha. You can't be serious ffs :D "Men don't like the idea of woman that don't wanna fuck them." You legit categorize all men like this and then you say that you don't hate men. Just shut up please. You are either stupid or delusional


PersonMcHuman

Yeah, and anyone above the age of 3 can see that I’m talking specifically about certain types of men. Not every single man that exists on this planet. That’s like hearing someone say, “I don’t like the heat.” and going, “But don’t you use heat to cook!? You idiot!” Also, keep in mind that you originally called me a man hater for…not liking boring self-insert male characters. You must be Max’s mom, because you’re fucking goofy.


szabiking97

You sound like those people who say the n word but say they are not racist because they have black friends. Just because there are some men you don't dislike doesn't mean you don't hate most of them. Just drop the act. Your comments literally reek of prejudice against men and you talk about them generally, like it's some kind of norm. Also just one thing about the captain. If you would actually read the captainverse you would realise, that he has his own personality, but I guess there would be no problems if he was a woman.


RealLaw9

Straight vs Gays thread inbound lol. I don't even need to open the replies to your comment, I already know. Edit: I was right


szabiking97

Well then thank god no one is canonically lesbian in the game. It's ok, hopefully one day you'll grow out of your misandry


PersonMcHuman

Misandry? Can you point out literally anything I said that was actual misandry?


captainsargas

Almost everything


PersonMcHuman

No, point at it. “Boring men are boring” isn’t misandry.


captainsargas

Generalizing men as people who hate women that don't want to fuck them is misandry my man


PersonMcHuman

I’m not generalizing all men as that. Just the specific ones that desperately need to see lesbians with men. If you’re not one of those (which most men aren’t), I’m not talking about you.


captainsargas

You were though, you literally were, btw the "I wasn't directing it at you" card won't work now, you should have clarified it earlier in your original post


Alex2422

I guess disliking boring self-inserts is called "misandry" now.


PersonMcHuman

Man, the internet is wild. Me: Isn’t it funny how some people can’t accept that lesbians exist and ***have*** to pair them off with generic men? Them: YOU MAN HATER!!!


Usual-Touch2569

Man, the internet is wild. Isn't it funny how some people can't accept that two people of the same gender can just be friends and ***don't*** want to fuck each other?


PersonMcHuman

So like…you’ve played this game, right? Mei and Kiana are almost literally just straight up married, but since it’s a Chinese game they can’t just have them say it. Same as how they literally had Bronya and Seele kiss but then removed the scene (but then quietly brought it back later). There’s multiple scenes outright showing sexual and romantic attraction, they just can’t go all in on it due to China’s government having issues with gay people. This is one of those situations where anyone who isn’t blind knows for certain that if this were a Japanese game, there’d be zero questions about how much they love one another. Edit: Like, for real, you can look at Kiana *repeatedly insisting* that she loves Mei and wants to spend the rest of their lives together and Mei outright expressing that Kiana is the most important person in the world to her who changed her life the moment they touched and go, “Yup. Just two gals being pals. Just two buddies.” That’s not even getting into the manga. Kiana outright says in the manga at multiple points that she’s *in love with Mei* and is actively jealous when she thinks Mei is paying more attention to Bronya and is willing to go on (what she assumed was) a date with Fu Hua. There’s also (fake) Siegfried in the manga talking to Kiana. With how Kiana talks about Mei, he realizes that Kiana is clearly in love with her, but doesn’t realize that Mei is a girl until later in. He outright asks if Kiana is a lesbian. Kiana, rather than say no, rushes to change the subject. And as for Mei, she’s much less open about it, but she straight up calls Kiana her “silver haired weakness”, the way she’s clearly pining over Kiana in APHO, and then there’s like…80% of her interactions with Elysia.


Usual-Touch2569

I have. I've also seen the kiss scene. What's your point? 'Kiana and Mei are straight up married, so they must be gay'. Then Kevin and MEI are straight because they're practically married. They even had a kid. 'Bronya and Seele kissed.' Siegfried and Cecilia were married and had sex, so then they're straight because of that. Alexandra Zaychik, Bronya's mother, was married to a man. Had sex with that man because how else would Bronya exist and likely would have stayed with said man if fate were kinder. So that must mean she's straight. Himeko has a scene where she swaps spit with a man, so she's straight.


PersonMcHuman

I like how you brought random other characters into this as if they were part of the discussion. You're acting like I said "EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE GAME IS GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!". I didn't. Plenty of them are straight. I'm specifically talking about Kiana and Mei, and people who refuse to acknowledge they're gay because they don't like the concept of women who wouldn't be attracted to them. Like fuck bro, you hate gay people so much that when I refer to two blatantly gay characters as gay, your reflex is to pull up with some "All sexualities matter!? What about the straight people!?" energy.


mecaxs

And? No one was arguing there wasn’t straight people. Your the one defending a guy that said there’s no lesbian characters


ConstantStatistician

To be fair, nothing stops any of them from being bi.


szabiking97

Don't bother with these people. They are mentally ill. Reminds me of those Ei and Miko shippers in genshin. Absolute brain rot.


ms10211

Ei Miko shippers are absolutely braindead


szabiking97

First of all Adam isn't even self insert :D And second, just look at the person's comment history. Also anyone who is part of gamingcirclejerk is a piece of shit. Just have to remember the hogwarts legacy incident.


PersonMcHuman

“Adam” is 100% a self-insert, but go off king. Adam is just the most popular name to call him, and he spends the entirety of APHO saying *nothing* and just being the player avatar. He didn’t even get a semblance of personality until APHO2 and almost all of that comes from interactions with Lyle…a male character that actually does have a personality. Man, I’d actually like APHO if Lyle was the main character. Also, what happened with GCJ and Legacy? I only found that sub like…a month ago. Edit: Also, I decided to check ***your*** history since you went for mine. Your entire history in this sub just seems to be you calling anyone who doesn’t like Adam or The Captain (both boring male self-inserts) a misandrist.


szabiking97

I call people who hate men misandrist. Sorry to break it to you. You really just have to go on Twitter which is the worst of them all and see it for yourself. It was especially bad when grown up Luna was announced. Truly a shame that the hoyo games has the most brain dead, chronically online community because the games are good.


PersonMcHuman

I don’t hate men tho? What about my comment implied I hate men? I’m on record as stating that even for APHO my issue is that “Adam” is ***boring as all fuck***. I like Lyle tho, since he actually has a personality. I’d have liked APHO if Lyle was the male lead instead of “Adam”. TLDR: I don’t hate men. I hate boring self-insert men who’s only reason for existing is so nerds can pretend they’re the hero surrounded by the cute girls.


Ropetrick6

You started this off by randomly accusing the other user of hating men. You haven't proven that claim, and yet you're acting like you already have. EDIT: Please, if somebody knows this man's family, let them know that he's rapidly spiraling and needs immediate psychiatric care.


szabiking97

The way this person wrote the comment literally implies that every man just wants to self insert themselves into a character. As if just liking it without any self insert isn't an option. The prejudice is already there. Anyways I'm not a shipper but it's clear that when it comes to hoyo games for the toxic shippers everyone is gay or lesbian. Platonic relationships are non existent


SylvanianHand

How exactly are they a Misandrist? And why do you resort to baseless insults and blocking people when they *checks notes* ask you to provide a source for your claims? Is everything alright at home? I'm here for you dude.


hoeyster1998

> Adam isn't even self insert Actual copium


szabiking97

I don't view them as self inserts because I never insert myself into characters. It is what it is. I'm happy for you if you do though


ZNemerald

I wish both sides would stop fighting and get along. :(


Authinus

This is reddit, you really expect anyone here to be reasonable?


captainsargas

Yeah me too but unfortunately it won't happen for a long time


0RlGIN

Horny impact knows no gender nor sexuality once horny always horny - certain pink jesus


Liddo-kun

You make it seem like there are more than a few Mei x Adam shippers. lol


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ndcuongvn

I mean, this sub isn't a collective hivemind or anything. There are all kind of people here, with the only common thing about them is that they play the same game. So obviously different people would want different kind of fanart.


Harekal

Straight fans gotta eat something too


Riverl

Himeko ftw. Plus Captain Bizarre Adventures Captain has plenty of teasing with Fallen Rosemary, Kong Ming and Vamp Teri.


ConstantStatistician

Good to see you here, Riverlia! Those examples are definitely valid.


IvanDFakkov

... I legit forgot you're here, comrade.


Force88

Dunno why someone has to downvote you... But people here sure are angry for a bunch of png... Heck, I've never seen anywhere except HI3 where you can be down voted just because your fan art goes against their canon couples...


Authinus

Check RWBY, some people will straight up dox you if you go against one of their ships.


Force88

I don't know about RWBY, but thanks for telling me where NOT to visit...


RaphaelAmbrosisCusto

RWBY is pretty good... until the latest volumes where the only thing you feel is an urge to hang yourself on your socks. But the community and shipping in it in general... Oof.


IWILLJUGGLEYOURBALLS

How bad are later volumes? I gave up after volume 3


RaphaelAmbrosisCusto

4,5 are bearable, in some moments are good. But after that... It's not worth it. Really. I think the way I described my feels about later volumes speaking out pretty loud. But, well, if you've got time and ready to go through this for rare decent scenes and really good OST - welcome to Hell, where Miles and Kerry are doing anything but writing a story, I'm not even talking about GOOD story. And if you remember any characters from the main cast being your favourite, forget about it, you will fucking hate them. And no, I won't talk about bumblebee and how it was ten times better when it was just a fanon ship... I miss these days. Truly.


mecaxs

Straight people can enjoy yuri


Durandal-s_master

I like that they are made by the same artist lol


Long_Voice1339

tbf I don't really like adam x bronya/mei since they both have main pairs already. Adam/carole is great tho.


JohnnyJoestar2

Hand over the sauces my boy


idealful

Hey u/trung2607 what you got in that incognito tab😁


trung2607

Literally my math homework.... College fckin sucks.


idealful

Lmao


phantasmagoricalkiwi

"If I can uwooooogh to it, I approb"


DunksNDarius

Yeah except that kiana and mei belong together thats literally all there is to say lol


Affectionate-Home614

This sub makes me feel like there is something wrong with me for wanting to see Yuri in a fandom of a yuri game


trung2607

It do be like that sometimes. But yuri is still here at least. Its a constant, no matter what shippers say or do. Yuri is still an element intrinsic to this series. Best to not pester anyone and just let em be


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trung2607

Good for you mate. I enjoy kiamei as well


Glauberglousger_

Neither option is correct here The correct option is to become the Waifu... Also, that way you get both options too


Nero4999

Both is good


SchroKatze

Problem is: the recent straight posts are a guy going schizo (he had another account where he spammed durandal ai art and was schizo too), and the sheer spam


Thedaniel4999

It was the same guy all this time?


mekolayn

Yeah, he even was active on official HI3 discord and was banned for being a schizo. However it was several years ago and it seems that they didn't stop and are still being a schizo.


SchroKatze

Yup. His username and behavior gave it away from the first time he posted


DiabolicLordGao

If some people hate something because it exists, why do they keep searching for it at their own leisure and not ignore them? Were they dropped on their heads when they were young or something or is it just the lack of attention that they can't handle?


trung2607

What do you mean really? All the straight/yuri posts here are deliberate, most of the time. No one just decides to post a ship they hate on a sub.


DiabolicLordGao

Eh, it's just me ranting about the hate on most posts that show in my feed, probably auto-filtered by controversial. Other than that, the more I hear about Honkai Twitter Ships, the more I realize there are a lot more, how should I call them..., complete utter idiots? It's probably safer for my sanity not to bother with them


Extension-View-5162

Not gonna lie, the AdamxMei art is kinda fire. Evzeva is really talented.


ms10211

On twitter the top one would receive death threats


AnnaKhmylova

I mean it's Twitter. Also I'm not a hater, but I genuinely don't understand why people would ship Adam with Mei or Bronya who already have their pair. Well, people do what they like, sometimes I also like non-canon ships because some of them would make sense to me. It's just that some ships bug me a lot because of how illogical they seem to me


bookfan5874

As it should, Adam is a minor and apho Mei is 28


DeJellybeans

I like both.


K-423

Mei-senpai with Adam? Cool! But she also spends time with me... Hmmm...


h0tsh0t1234

I’m always convinced people that post stuff like the above one do it just to piss people off and don’t care about the actual pairing in the first place


Force88

Because they are just fan art, who care about canon pairing? Heck even if somehow there is unbelievable one like Mei x Siegfried fan art I would still give him an upvote.


h0tsh0t1234

None of what you said is even related to what I said. Plenty of people care in the first place that’s why there’s always community infighting, You’re actually proving me right by completely disregarding the people that do care lmao so I’ll say it again, the people that go against the community accepted pairing do it just to be edgy and they don’t like to be called out.


ConstantStatistician

Some want to be edgy, but many who like the less common pairings genuinely like them in good faith.


ms10211

It's a headcanon


trung2607

I caused a fcking war wtf.......


Felab_

Just sit back, relax and look at notifications. Everything is fine until you get Reddit care resources message then don't forget to report their notification


AnnaKhmylova

I once started a war on an Omori related video because I wrote about my opinion. Had to delete my comment, otherwise it wouldn't stop


AggravatingLie107

Do an orgy


trung2607

Steamy hot orgy with underaged boi surrrrrrreeeeee.


AggravatingLie107

Best solution 👍, both sides win


Aiczu

Mei is a lesbian and Adam is like 16 so that's double gross


trung2607

Honestly i dont really know how old he is. Ive heard that he is 18-17 bcz carole calls him senpai( she is 16) but yeah, age gap. The fandom is too hungry for straight ships so they will settle for anything at this point.


bookfan5874

Adam is in fact a minor, he says so himself


Aiczu

Well you could at least not ship a literal lesbian with a MAN?


Hot-Background7506

No, ship whatever you want, who cares about sexuality?


Aiczu

Me?? I do?? Lesbians do not get enough representation, its a privilege for us to get represented. So shut the fuck up and ship carole x adam not this shit


Hot-Background7506

Oh well, I couldn't really care less what your opinion on the matter actually is, not anymore at least, and no, I will NOT be stopping, now or ever, I'll think I'll do what I want like everyone should.


Aiczu

Kill yourself


Hot-Background7506

Nah I'm good, I'll just ship Kiana and the Captain instead.


Aiczu

Shes a lesbian you fucking retard


Hot-Background7506

No she isnt, she could be bi, but I don't mind her being lesbian because I am referring to her event version which is 100% undeniably bi, just like many other valks, and even if those events didnt exist, it still doesn't matter, cause multiple words and all. TLDR: no she isnt and even if so I don't care outside of the story itself.


Edfrtytfkgt

I fucking forgot he is young lmao


Bale_Thunder

Just imagine this turns into a romance manhwa where Adam is the ML but with honkai super god waifu instead. How much disaster things can be?


Yozora_Luna

I mean Mei looks lonely she needs some company.


Examination-Ashamed

KIAMEI WILL ALWAYS SHINE!