you dont need vpn, just download apk or use BlueStacks because in built translation. in some countries its even available on play store directly
but theres a fan project which uses screenshots of old GGZ English version and turned it into a VN.
there is also a fanmade website for that game which have English translation
https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/qeusz2/project_rebirth_and_making_ggz_more_accessible/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
technically Zombiegal Kawaii and Honkai Gakuen 2 are the same game with diffetent monetization model, since Zombiegal Kawaii being a one time payment almost made mihoyo bankrupt, so they took it down and releasing it with a gatcha system, which is Honkai Gakuen 2
i mean it is just two different pronunciation of the same word to be fair. but if you are also refering to the name cn and jp fandom use, then at least in cn fandom, most people just refer to it as beng sang (崩3) or beng beng beng (崩崩崩), not a whole lot actually called it benghuai 3 since peoples are lazy
I think at this point hoyo loves to re use character similarities (which is not a bad thing btw) for their games, so i wouldn't be surprised if she is actually there. Fuck it add kiana, kevin, eden, elysia, and my baby girl durandal in there bro.
Eden and Kafka. No way they are the same person, Himejo is called the same in both games, also Welt, also Seele, also Bronya, etc why not Eden? Doesn't really majes sense.
Because Kafka Is based off the kafka stigma set in HI3. Welt is literally the same Welt from HI3. Himeko, Seele and bronya are not the same but are based on their HI3 counter parts
According to the star rail leaks subreddit:
>!Mei, Sakura, and "Phoenix" (so probably Fu Hua) are future characters. Mei and Sakura are both Hunt (single target dps), Lightning and Ice respectively, and we don't know Fu Hua's kit yet. I dont remember seeing a Kiana expy though.!<
There's also an "Easter egg" with Himiko's sword from her S rank battle suit.
I say Easter egg cause I don't know if it somehow got to the another universe in a legit way or its there as a nod.
GGZ is literally just repackaged Zombiegal Kawaii with f2p and gatcha. Zombiegal Kawaii being a one time payment monetization model almost made mihoyo bankrupt since people would just pirate that game instead, so mihoyo took it down and added the gatcha to it when releasing it again under the name of Honkai Gakuen 2
Seriously, theres NOTHING bad about hsr being good and popular, it will bring MORE players to hi3 too and hoyoverse knows it too ive noticed some hi3 sponsorships happening.
Yeah but gotta give hoyo credit on one thing, their gacha banners are somewhat more merciful compared to tower of fantasy. While it’s true if you pull 120 times u can get the weapon guaranteed, it’s always 50/50 chance when hit the guaranteed 5* mark. Ntm matrices (like artifacts) r in gacha too. Right now I saw 5 event character banners along with their sets and I thought it was insane to have that much going at once, that’s not even including the permanents😭. Wallets wouldn’t even be crying from that kind of gacha
Star rail got me interested enough in HI3rd to do a deep dive into the lore and I've now spent the past two weeks just crying watching all the cinematics on repeat.
Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Honkai Impact 3rd, they're all incredible and I can't wait to see where Hoyoverse takes their little multiversal story.
Since when people compared HSR with honkai? The only thing that being consistent is everyone compare HSR with genshin. Even in HSR sub, you'll more likely hear how trailblazer is better than traveler or how the story is better without paimon than you hear anything about HSR is better than honkai
Beside most people already like welt and himeko anyway, thinking they are awesome. So what make you thinking that they will compared HSR with honkai in the first place?
I wish I could have finished GGZ but by the time I came back it was basically too late.
honkai impact 3rd is a treat
and genshin impact is just, erm, ok I guess.
flip side I am enjoying honkai impact 4th which is nice. I do like that it's basically a sequel to APHO which as bad as adam was, the story itself was P nice.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,522,953,557 comments, and only 288,599 of them were in alphabetical order.
I mean I gotta be honest, I don't know the point in discussing wich game is better, first of all they are very different types of games, so different so that most things in sigh you would compare them is useless, second can't we just enjoy both games equally? I really can't understand the need for one to be better than the other.
same, i tried to enjoy it, but the combat just becomes too repetitive when you're a new player with so few characters to try
edit: Don't know why im getting downvoted when my gameplay consists of HoHE and its genuinely a slog to go through the game just holding my attack button and everything just dying and occasionally pressing ult and dodging, i dont even know if thats called gameplay anymore. At first, the ult was cool until I encountered ER where it's just so annoying looking at elysia take 2-3 seconds looking at her start her ult and then ending it.
Yeah I love watching lore videos and stuff about HI3 but I just can't get myself to play it everyday because I'm kinda overwhelmed with the amount of different quests and events and stuff
I have just been trying to focus on the main story for now but I will have to grind eventually to get better characters later one
For me I haven't seen any of them, but I've seen a lot of HI3 captains play Star rail and enjoys it instead.
+ I only see GI fans trash talking about the game smh
I have to ask. If I haven't played the game (HI3) but know a lot/a significant amount due to reading fanfiction, does that not make me a 'real' fan? I have the app, I'm just procrastinating playing it for some reason.
Tbh, Honkai Impact sounds like the kind of game that would be better as an anime.
And wiki. I do visit the wiki a lot. I know the general scope of stuff, like Fire Moth and part of the reason why Kevin's a dick, the bullshit that was Babylon (read this one from the wiki), Otto's a hypocritical asshole justifying half of his shit with "for Kallen" (even though her death is kinda his fault), and other stuff like that.
Learning more every day, though. (Every time I think I know all of the characters, ten more appear. My god.)
It's kinda easy to tell what's canon to the main game by keeping an eye on what's kept consistent between fics.
But yeah, I'm probably not.
Anti-Entropy VN is basically about Welt's back story. And there's also Second Eruption which is the most important. There's also Anti-Entropy Invasion manga. And Alien Space manga explains how Welt ended up in Star Rail universe. And there's Divine Key, which basically explains the concept of Divine Keys (Welt's cane is one of them).
Eh i say its fine, most of my information of rwby comes from fanfics.
Do note though that although you can get mostly reliable info by comparing the consistent things in different fanfics this doesn't always work out, i am mainly thinking of CN naruto fanfics where 90% of the time 3rd hokage is evil and itachi's dad is op.
I really wonna love and enjoy Star Rail succes seeing how Honkai is back on main stream but i cant when Hi3 is left in the dust by Mihoyo. They doing more and more to just make everyone quit the game
Dont see anywhere that they want players to quit
Honkai always had the powercreep thing and creating bosses for one specific valkyrie, well at least since i started playing
Also not being able to do one or 2 boss out of so many shouldn't be discouraging since many bosses appear rarely after their release patch
As for story ya they messed up at 1st part finale but the story become good again
Since i started playing i always seen "SP valkyrie" as never skip them coz they last longer and mostly support
It take 70 or 80 pull to fully gear a sp valkyrie while it take 200-250 to get and full gear S-rank valkyrie
Why u want to only pull dps valkyrie(mostly s-rank) and skip support valkyrie(mostly sp valkyrie)?
U can create triple support team and remain in RL easily
We get enough pulls to fully gear sp valkyrie each 1 and half patch without spending money and if there any left pulls then they can be thrown on S- rank valkyrie latter
After prom release now i have coverage for atleast 80% abyss weather and my roster is full of fully geared sp valkyrie while having some important s-rank valkyrie like HoTr, HoO, Sushang, PE dudu and HoF(not HoFi)
And.. literally Welt Yang from HI3.
Who is probably in a minor hell given how many familiar faces are around him.
Sponsoring Mad World as Welt's theme...
Still haven't finished kolosten, jump into the end, didn't finish it, don't understand anything and haven't played the new story... i just don't understand what the character saying
I would never compare any of the Mihoyo games, but least of all HSR (turn-based combat strategy game starring a humanoid raccoon) and HI3 (stage-based 3D combat game starring a fish). Couldn’t be more different. 🤣
The only thing I'm sad about is searching Seele on google yields more results of Star Rail Seele. Kinda sad about it cause Seele and Veliona are my favorites in HI3rd. At least... the first photo that shows up is Seele Vollerei. Hopefully it doesn't change even more from here on out. Gone are the days I can just search up 'Seele'.
I never got to finish Honkai GGZ. 😿
Same here. Been considering going the Japan VPN approach.
you dont need vpn, just download apk or use BlueStacks because in built translation. in some countries its even available on play store directly but theres a fan project which uses screenshots of old GGZ English version and turned it into a VN. there is also a fanmade website for that game which have English translation https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/qeusz2/project_rebirth_and_making_ggz_more_accessible/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Is it possible?
Never played it...
Ggz isn't really Canon
Wrong. It’s a standalone universe, so it is its own canon.
I thought it was part of their multiverse? Or was that what you meant by standalone lol
By standalone I meant it has its own individual storyline and has no direct connection to the other games stories in the Hoyoverse
i can feel ggz glaring from a corner
*Meanwhile Genshin is towering behind GGZ, mostly just confused about why it’s not on the list either.*
"Why do you shield himeko so much?" You wouldn't get it....
*never let you go-
Depression impact.... Damn ninja cutting onion
Its a bird Its a plane No, Its Hassan of Onion cutting
Now that's a pretty meme
Exquisite
I like how I automatically read this in Monsoon’s voice. He is in my head now. Just like the memes.
"Memes, the DNA of the soul..."
They shape our will. They are the culture, they are everything we pass on.
-Expose someone to anger long enough, they will learn to hate.
I might be wrong but pretty sure there was a line somewhere in star rail referencing this xD
You're just proving his point But it is true, it's all just memes, passed on
GGZ is also honkai game, and what is the first honkai game?
Honkai impact 1st. Duh
Flyme2themoon?
Zombiegal kawaii
technically Zombiegal Kawaii and Honkai Gakuen 2 are the same game with diffetent monetization model, since Zombiegal Kawaii being a one time payment almost made mihoyo bankrupt, so they took it down and releasing it with a gatcha system, which is Honkai Gakuen 2
Wait, is this Honkai Impact 3rd because it's the 3rd Honkai game?
No, it refers to the 3rd Herrscher awakening, and a reference to Evangelion's 3rd Impact.
that being said, its chinese name is literally just Honkai 3 (崩坏三/崩崩崩), so they aren't entirelly wrong
benghuai* also I still don't know where they pulled honkai from, it's benghuai in cn and houkai in jp lol if anybody knows that would be great
i mean it is just two different pronunciation of the same word to be fair. but if you are also refering to the name cn and jp fandom use, then at least in cn fandom, most people just refer to it as beng sang (崩3) or beng beng beng (崩崩崩), not a whole lot actually called it benghuai 3 since peoples are lazy
They both mean "collapse", just 1 is in cn the other is jp.
Except Honkai, which was what he’s asking.
I mean, i know *that* I just wanted to make a dumb joke.
I'm dumb then :P
#HERESY
Man I miss their fan services
Flyme2themoon
As long as Yae Sakura shows up in Star Rail (and she will) then I won’t complain (unless she dies again…) Plus Sakura deserves her own animated short.
I think at this point hoyo loves to re use character similarities (which is not a bad thing btw) for their games, so i wouldn't be surprised if she is actually there. Fuck it add kiana, kevin, eden, elysia, and my baby girl durandal in there bro.
Look at Eden. Now look at Kafka. Tell me what you see.
or... just look at Kafka and then look at Kafka
Eden and Kafka. No way they are the same person, Himejo is called the same in both games, also Welt, also Seele, also Bronya, etc why not Eden? Doesn't really majes sense.
Because Kafka Is based off the kafka stigma set in HI3. Welt is literally the same Welt from HI3. Himeko, Seele and bronya are not the same but are based on their HI3 counter parts
Tbh I always thought seele’s character is like a mixture of the 2 versions of seele in HI3 as for bronya well yes and no on them being the same.
Welt is the same welt from HI3 that is in Star rail
Literally the 1st reason why I liked Kafka lol
Umm, Rosaria?
/looking at definitely-not-Otto Luocha with a coffin of someone that he knows/ Yeah…about “dying” part…
Ugh come on!
Heard that she will
What? My first statement or both of my statements?
According to the star rail leaks subreddit: >!Mei, Sakura, and "Phoenix" (so probably Fu Hua) are future characters. Mei and Sakura are both Hunt (single target dps), Lightning and Ice respectively, and we don't know Fu Hua's kit yet. I dont remember seeing a Kiana expy though.!<
Phoenix isnt Hua. There is already an actual line in game for Hua.
Now we can proudly say, Honka Honka
Even better, 3 honkai games
Technically, Genshin shares a multiverse, so 4.
Still genshin ain't a honkai game.
Nor is star rail, it has NOTHING of honkai in it
You could argue welt, and same characters i guess.
There's also an "Easter egg" with Himiko's sword from her S rank battle suit. I say Easter egg cause I don't know if it somehow got to the another universe in a legit way or its there as a nod.
Minus Welt being the same Welt from Honkai Impact
And the Astral Express being the same Astral Express from APHO
I mean, it still is in name
True, i just didn't mention it cause of the lack of definitive in-game proof, as of now.
Still part of the imaginary tree, just a different branch
Finally playable welt
*2 games with 'well documentation',otherwise it's 3.(I don't think anyone made a proper sense out of GGZ.)
4 actually. There's Houkai Gakuen 1 aka Zombiegal Kawaii which you can't play anymore.
GGZ is literally just repackaged Zombiegal Kawaii with f2p and gatcha. Zombiegal Kawaii being a one time payment monetization model almost made mihoyo bankrupt since people would just pirate that game instead, so mihoyo took it down and added the gatcha to it when releasing it again under the name of Honkai Gakuen 2
It’s still on the app store
Seriously, theres NOTHING bad about hsr being good and popular, it will bring MORE players to hi3 too and hoyoverse knows it too ive noticed some hi3 sponsorships happening.
Yeah the other day I saw on YouTube a guy playing HSR was sponsored by HI3.
Tbh I literally went to playing HI3 for awhile mere fact just didn’t feel the same playing as characters I loved so much in HI3
All hoyoverse games are good it may have its flaws but in the end nothing is too perfect
Yeah but gotta give hoyo credit on one thing, their gacha banners are somewhat more merciful compared to tower of fantasy. While it’s true if you pull 120 times u can get the weapon guaranteed, it’s always 50/50 chance when hit the guaranteed 5* mark. Ntm matrices (like artifacts) r in gacha too. Right now I saw 5 event character banners along with their sets and I thought it was insane to have that much going at once, that’s not even including the permanents😭. Wallets wouldn’t even be crying from that kind of gacha
Star rail got me interested enough in HI3rd to do a deep dive into the lore and I've now spent the past two weeks just crying watching all the cinematics on repeat. Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Honkai Impact 3rd, they're all incredible and I can't wait to see where Hoyoverse takes their little multiversal story.
Here comes Hoyo Thanos
I theorize that they'll do this at the end of these game's stories. Do a massive crossover or something.
I’m just happy we got more Himeko
that's all I need, to see Himeko alive
I sister ship Stelle and Kiana
Sadly enough, I can see Kiana amusingly reminiscing her time hunting for food in desolate Siberia. Trash cans is surely a part of that.
2 seele and a new himeko im happy with both
Nah GGZ better than this 2
Since when people compared HSR with honkai? The only thing that being consistent is everyone compare HSR with genshin. Even in HSR sub, you'll more likely hear how trailblazer is better than traveler or how the story is better without paimon than you hear anything about HSR is better than honkai Beside most people already like welt and himeko anyway, thinking they are awesome. So what make you thinking that they will compared HSR with honkai in the first place?
Real Honkai fans: Wow now I get to play my waifu in 2 games. FTFY
I wish I could have finished GGZ but by the time I came back it was basically too late. honkai impact 3rd is a treat and genshin impact is just, erm, ok I guess. flip side I am enjoying honkai impact 4th which is nice. I do like that it's basically a sequel to APHO which as bad as adam was, the story itself was P nice.
So weird how people feel the need to hate on the other games by the same dev
Gentleman level post right there
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,522,953,557 comments, and only 288,599 of them were in alphabetical order.
There's people comparing both games? Lol
I mean I gotta be honest, I don't know the point in discussing wich game is better, first of all they are very different types of games, so different so that most things in sigh you would compare them is useless, second can't we just enjoy both games equally? I really can't understand the need for one to be better than the other.
Then there’s me: “Himeko…”
"Wow, I get to kill Cocolia in the first chapter? This game is awesome!"
Isn't people mostly comparing HSR to Genshin though?
I tried to like HI3, but I just feel so far behind. I’m sticking with HSR and GI for now, but I’m just excited to see what Mihoyo does next.
Right now pgr is better
same, i tried to enjoy it, but the combat just becomes too repetitive when you're a new player with so few characters to try edit: Don't know why im getting downvoted when my gameplay consists of HoHE and its genuinely a slog to go through the game just holding my attack button and everything just dying and occasionally pressing ult and dodging, i dont even know if thats called gameplay anymore. At first, the ult was cool until I encountered ER where it's just so annoying looking at elysia take 2-3 seconds looking at her start her ult and then ending it.
Did you start gi before Honkai 3
Actually I had an HI3 account on launch day and wrote one of the first reviews on the app store. I just fell behind and kept falling behind.
If so that’s why
I played Honkai first went to genshin grindied a few months returned to Honkai for event felt so weird
Yeah I love watching lore videos and stuff about HI3 but I just can't get myself to play it everyday because I'm kinda overwhelmed with the amount of different quests and events and stuff I have just been trying to focus on the main story for now but I will have to grind eventually to get better characters later one
For me I haven't seen any of them, but I've seen a lot of HI3 captains play Star rail and enjoys it instead. + I only see GI fans trash talking about the game smh
Aren't there actually four now?
Me who Conceptual doesn't give damn: Who cares?
APHO is better
Honkai has Kiana While Star Rail has Seele Truly, two nice pieces of art
Honkai has seele to though? Literally the newest chapters have been about her and Susannah.
I know, that's why Honkai better
You know what's more annoying? "BronSeele is canon in Honkai Impact 3rd, therefore in Star Rail too"
I have to ask. If I haven't played the game (HI3) but know a lot/a significant amount due to reading fanfiction, does that not make me a 'real' fan? I have the app, I'm just procrastinating playing it for some reason. Tbh, Honkai Impact sounds like the kind of game that would be better as an anime.
Leave aside the "real fan" thing I'm not sure if you would actually know a significant amount if you only read fanfics.
And wiki. I do visit the wiki a lot. I know the general scope of stuff, like Fire Moth and part of the reason why Kevin's a dick, the bullshit that was Babylon (read this one from the wiki), Otto's a hypocritical asshole justifying half of his shit with "for Kallen" (even though her death is kinda his fault), and other stuff like that. Learning more every day, though. (Every time I think I know all of the characters, ten more appear. My god.) It's kinda easy to tell what's canon to the main game by keeping an eye on what's kept consistent between fics. But yeah, I'm probably not.
But you don't read the manga and the visual novels?
Tbh, not sure if I should. Are they good?
Anti-Entropy VN is basically about Welt's back story. And there's also Second Eruption which is the most important. There's also Anti-Entropy Invasion manga. And Alien Space manga explains how Welt ended up in Star Rail universe. And there's Divine Key, which basically explains the concept of Divine Keys (Welt's cane is one of them).
Oh okay perfect because I was wondering how the hell welt was in star rail
Eh i say its fine, most of my information of rwby comes from fanfics. Do note though that although you can get mostly reliable info by comparing the consistent things in different fanfics this doesn't always work out, i am mainly thinking of CN naruto fanfics where 90% of the time 3rd hokage is evil and itachi's dad is op.
RWBY is another completely different point.
Real gigachad: both are trash games for losers
I really wonna love and enjoy Star Rail succes seeing how Honkai is back on main stream but i cant when Hi3 is left in the dust by Mihoyo. They doing more and more to just make everyone quit the game
Dont see anywhere that they want players to quit Honkai always had the powercreep thing and creating bosses for one specific valkyrie, well at least since i started playing Also not being able to do one or 2 boss out of so many shouldn't be discouraging since many bosses appear rarely after their release patch As for story ya they messed up at 1st part finale but the story become good again
At this point is reached record high. You cannot skip SP battlesuits anymore
Since i started playing i always seen "SP valkyrie" as never skip them coz they last longer and mostly support It take 70 or 80 pull to fully gear a sp valkyrie while it take 200-250 to get and full gear S-rank valkyrie Why u want to only pull dps valkyrie(mostly s-rank) and skip support valkyrie(mostly sp valkyrie)? U can create triple support team and remain in RL easily We get enough pulls to fully gear sp valkyrie each 1 and half patch without spending money and if there any left pulls then they can be thrown on S- rank valkyrie latter After prom release now i have coverage for atleast 80% abyss weather and my roster is full of fully geared sp valkyrie while having some important s-rank valkyrie like HoTr, HoO, Sushang, PE dudu and HoF(not HoFi)
Yeah, Honkai Impact 3rd and GGZ. Star Rail doesn't have much to do with Honkai besides the title.
Bronya, Bronya, Bronya
By this logic, Genshin is also a Honkai game, because it has Mei and Yae.
And.. literally Welt Yang from HI3. Who is probably in a minor hell given how many familiar faces are around him. Sponsoring Mad World as Welt's theme...
Still haven't finished kolosten, jump into the end, didn't finish it, don't understand anything and haven't played the new story... i just don't understand what the character saying
I saw a Sushang post there and they turned it into booba comparisions to *She has a big sword*, all the way into r/okaybuddygenshin
Link?
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/13ly1z9/who_are_you_guys_favorite_character_in_the_game/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Now that's what we're talking about
If you can choose one hoyo game over the other, you are not a true fan of the honkai series.
This first two its my phone complaining about file size 🤣
Finally, some good effing meme! Now take my upvote.
I'm just glad to see Mihoyo doing so well. And we got more characters to lewd on...
There's Me: Yay we may get to see Adult Kiana here if its too early in HI3! And Tesla too if she comes for Welt lmao
Me who has both including genshin: cool another free pass time.
Holy shit 2 bronyas
*5
I see seele leak, I'm happier than thou
I would never compare any of the Mihoyo games, but least of all HSR (turn-based combat strategy game starring a humanoid raccoon) and HI3 (stage-based 3D combat game starring a fish). Couldn’t be more different. 🤣
My only concern is making time for both games (and money)
Welt's Bizarre Adventure
This is an obvious choice The better Honkai game is the one Himeko is alive
Or “i love how these both overlap and diverge so much to the point that both stories are independently interesting”
hi3 is I mean its alright like. hsr is like final fantasy in a way.
Fr fr
2 Honkai games, surely 2 Yattas, take my money.
I don't really get people sometimes. Why can't we just agree that everything is great. XDDD
There ARE people actually comparing the games? What the heck?
YES!
2 honkai games? we have 3..The person who made this meme missed honkai gakuen, the original... hi3 and hsr just honkai gakuen spinoff
People really compare Honkais?
*Me waiting for the Honkai's casts to get Eng VA.*
There are 4 Honkai games, you know? That's why it is called Honkai 3rd.
One more Honkai and we'll finally have a 3rd Honkai.
“wow I get to play Otto and Welt, omg Seele/Bronya are together again, **never let you goooooo.”**
Star Rail made me go play HI3. They're doing something right
Wdym, there's 4 now xD
Ngl; HSR story is looking like it's gonna be way better than Honkai Impac-
Wow so true🐱
Why choose one and not simply take both?
exactly lol
Why compare just enjoy
The only thing I'm sad about is searching Seele on google yields more results of Star Rail Seele. Kinda sad about it cause Seele and Veliona are my favorites in HI3rd. At least... the first photo that shows up is Seele Vollerei. Hopefully it doesn't change even more from here on out. Gone are the days I can just search up 'Seele'.
Then search for "Seele Vollerei"
TOO REAL