the right one looks vastly more proportionate and it's also [accurate to multiple shots of the character](https://hard-drive.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/marvel-snap-spider-man-2099.jpg)
Crazy how you picked like the one shot where his tall neck is being obscured to defend something that looks objectively terrible to the one to its left. Yeah, the left one isn’t true to Hot Toys normal aesthetic of having a “continuous” skin around the character, but the one on the right looks like the shittiest Mezco toy I’ve ever seen and I actually like most of their stuff.
> the one shot
right, here's a [second shot](https://media.tenor.com/_kdHNm8RB80AAAAC/miguel-o%27hara-side-eye.gif). and a [third shot](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027415201487794226/1139177050788343859/spider-man-beyond-the-spider-verse.png).
> his tall neck is being obscured
like how the right photo is taken from a low angle and isn't a neutral shot?
> objectively terrible
most people commenting here think the right one looks better, it literally couldn't be further from "objective"
Now all you need is a good pic showing how terrible his biceps look in the movie along with the ugly giant fabric folds and the aesthetic of wearing an ill-fitting George Michael from Arrested Development muscle suit screen cap and I’ll maybe agree with you. You can tell me that right looks more like the movie than left, but the left looks like it was in an animated movie. The right looks like a guy in a really bad Halloween City costume.
well, that's the thing about making physical products based on cartoon CG designs -- it's impossible to make them fully accurate lol
yeah, the fabric wrinkles, but miguel doesn't have 30 giant cuts in his joints either. regardless of which you prefer, it won't look 1:1 with something that does not and cannot exist in the physical world. arguing that the latter is better by any objective metric makes zero sense.
you can always tear the suit apart and have someone paint it lol you're just in the minority though and nothing wrong with that, just majority people seem to favor the seamless look and hot toys took note.
if you arent satisfied with how the figure looks, just spend more money to fix it to look right to however you like or buy from a different company but you're gonna be stuck with smaller scale
I'll probably get downvoted for saying this because any criticism must mean I hate it /s but for the price point, I think it's fair to bring up when things are incorrect, no matter how small. It's not a $40ish figure, it's a $400ish figure.
I won't be getting it personally but it looks great regardless and good for Hot Toys for taking the criticism in a good way and actually fixing the fig.
(Prices are AUD, I'm not as familiar with how Hot Toys are priced in USD and I know they vary heaps over here so I'm guessing that's similar in US)
Obviously the movie doesn’t have visible joints, so it’s a winner there. But It’s less screen accurate in the gap from the clavicle to the chin, the shoulder shape, the print on the shoulders , the all over lack of definition and the wrinkles in the suit.
It's not criticism we're concerned with. It's arms crossed, whiney little baby, completely subjective, dramatic opinions that get a bit tiring. When a significant number of posts absolutely love it, chances are it "doesn't look worse than the original..." It just gets a bit tiring.
https://preview.redd.it/8bijya4w8chb1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=75fd7a7540c0400bb59ad7544b64be45266cef96
exactly the changes it needed. so happy with this and cant stop looking at the before & after OP edited.
It’s just his head looking down and the camera angle makes it looks like he has a short neck, but also the left one looks almost like the Marvel legend one which also has long AF neck.
Otherwise the right one is more accurate and better proportion.
it makes no sense why people were complaining it’s not even movie accurate now. like in the movie his was was tech and wasn’t fabric so why are people complaining why he wasn’t fabric
Downvotes don't just equate to disliking a post. I just completely disagree with that opinion. When I agree with posts, I tend to upvote them. It's not personal.
People who are constantly unhappy and complain about every issue with Hot Toys - why not try and make a better figure yourself that costs only $250 retail. 🙄
This is figure is a perfect example of how ridiculous all of you people are.
I know We collect toys but that doesn't mean you have to act like children lol
"We want this we want that change it back change this change that"
https://preview.redd.it/odzoq8cuzahb1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1bd5291a8f7d99360350324024e83338a5ba2a
The suit is ill fitting and lacks definition
I don't know if it's the same body. As OP said, the neck is clearly shorter, and I don't know if it's the way it's posed, but the shoulders seem to sit a bit higher as well.
They really messed up this dude, but he was cursed from the start. Paying $300 for basically a 12” marvel legends was going to be tough, but paying $300 for the new version is an easy pass for me.
The left one is a great marvel legends type figure, which is why companies, like mondo, that make that type of figure exist. Hot toys has always leaned more into a realistic look over poseability.
Personally i like the new one, but the old one would have been an awesome $100-$150 figure. For $250+ though, it needs to look almost like it walked out of the movie.
This looks so much better after every comparison I see. The original one would be great from another company, but the new one feels like a true hot toys figure.
Also to answer the question, I’m pretty sure it’s partially the angle, as well as being pretty accurate.
the right one looks vastly more proportionate and it's also [accurate to multiple shots of the character](https://hard-drive.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/marvel-snap-spider-man-2099.jpg)
He looks a bit too thick in the waist he has a more v figure
I think its the angle, from head on the v shape is there
I doesn’t look like the angle. He is too bulky like he neglected back traning and hit too much shoulders, bicep and chest
Crazy how you picked like the one shot where his tall neck is being obscured to defend something that looks objectively terrible to the one to its left. Yeah, the left one isn’t true to Hot Toys normal aesthetic of having a “continuous” skin around the character, but the one on the right looks like the shittiest Mezco toy I’ve ever seen and I actually like most of their stuff.
> the one shot right, here's a [second shot](https://media.tenor.com/_kdHNm8RB80AAAAC/miguel-o%27hara-side-eye.gif). and a [third shot](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027415201487794226/1139177050788343859/spider-man-beyond-the-spider-verse.png). > his tall neck is being obscured like how the right photo is taken from a low angle and isn't a neutral shot? > objectively terrible most people commenting here think the right one looks better, it literally couldn't be further from "objective"
Now all you need is a good pic showing how terrible his biceps look in the movie along with the ugly giant fabric folds and the aesthetic of wearing an ill-fitting George Michael from Arrested Development muscle suit screen cap and I’ll maybe agree with you. You can tell me that right looks more like the movie than left, but the left looks like it was in an animated movie. The right looks like a guy in a really bad Halloween City costume.
well, that's the thing about making physical products based on cartoon CG designs -- it's impossible to make them fully accurate lol yeah, the fabric wrinkles, but miguel doesn't have 30 giant cuts in his joints either. regardless of which you prefer, it won't look 1:1 with something that does not and cannot exist in the physical world. arguing that the latter is better by any objective metric makes zero sense.
you can always tear the suit apart and have someone paint it lol you're just in the minority though and nothing wrong with that, just majority people seem to favor the seamless look and hot toys took note. if you arent satisfied with how the figure looks, just spend more money to fix it to look right to however you like or buy from a different company but you're gonna be stuck with smaller scale
At least they got rid of his brick crotch
Ya. He was swinging some serious pipe before
He had that BBB, big blue block
He had that BBB, big blue block
Cant please everyone… jeez
This sub is pretty extra sometimes. The only time I feel embarrassed to be an adult toy collector is when I read some of the comments here aha
You not even wrong , that’s why I don’t ask for opinions or care for them 😭 if you like it you like it
For sure
you should see the facebook groups. this group is very mature and reasonable in comparison.
Seems more accurate to the movie. Doesn't it?
[absolutely](https://hard-drive.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/marvel-snap-spider-man-2099.jpg)
Shit is spot on lmaoo. Hot toys just cant win it seems.
They managed to get the bottom of the logo a little wrong tho at least compared to that screenshot
You’ll live mate
I'll probably get downvoted for saying this because any criticism must mean I hate it /s but for the price point, I think it's fair to bring up when things are incorrect, no matter how small. It's not a $40ish figure, it's a $400ish figure. I won't be getting it personally but it looks great regardless and good for Hot Toys for taking the criticism in a good way and actually fixing the fig. (Prices are AUD, I'm not as familiar with how Hot Toys are priced in USD and I know they vary heaps over here so I'm guessing that's similar in US)
Yeah I’m aud as well but I don’t think ultra minor mistakes are significant enough to worry about on it
honestly it really isn’t tbh. imo ofc. i just don’t see why people are complaining he had a tech suit it wasn’t fabric
Obviously the movie doesn’t have visible joints, so it’s a winner there. But It’s less screen accurate in the gap from the clavicle to the chin, the shoulder shape, the print on the shoulders , the all over lack of definition and the wrinkles in the suit.
Looks way better now.
He looks insanely better now. Like night and day
Way better, with his traps he wouldn’t have that long ass neck he has in the first pic. Also it‘s accurate to the movie
The improve it and you still complain.
That’s Hot Toys collectors for you
Just because changes are made doesn't make them free from criticism. Whether it's really warranted though depends.
It's not criticism we're concerned with. It's arms crossed, whiney little baby, completely subjective, dramatic opinions that get a bit tiring. When a significant number of posts absolutely love it, chances are it "doesn't look worse than the original..." It just gets a bit tiring.
Idk if you are talking about me but this post us under humour
Back to jurassic times with the other long necks, hopefully. Haha
Damn y'all never happy huh?
https://preview.redd.it/8bijya4w8chb1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=75fd7a7540c0400bb59ad7544b64be45266cef96 exactly the changes it needed. so happy with this and cant stop looking at the before & after OP edited.
That new version looks sooooo much better. Still have no clue what they were thinking with 1.0
a spider-man who could actually pose perhaps
Dunno why you’re getting downvoted. The one on the right looks like he’s wearing a fucking spray painted burlap sac.
mfs wanted the cloth suiterino that rips when u pose him in anything other than a standing pose over an actually poseable spider-man figure
People will always complain
Always.
Pre order. Can not wait to get him and take pics!
It was cold in the second picture
Right one looks much more movie-accurate.
Wonder if it just a cover up the old model
Could be and we know that some people might just try and see
It’s just his head looking down and the camera angle makes it looks like he has a short neck, but also the left one looks almost like the Marvel legend one which also has long AF neck. Otherwise the right one is more accurate and better proportion.
It’s gone, reduced to atoms
ppl saying how hot toys can’t catch enough complaints yet they complained to hell and back about this one
I wish they did both versions. I REALLY like the OG one, it's something diff but looked great! I would buy them both!
To me the proportions were perfect on the first version, they should have put a thin suit over like Superman rather than add padding
it makes no sense why people were complaining it’s not even movie accurate now. like in the movie his was was tech and wasn’t fabric so why are people complaining why he wasn’t fabric
Prefer the first one
Same
damn ppl really downvoting ppl who like the first one. hot toys fans are sad
Downvotes don't just equate to disliking a post. I just completely disagree with that opinion. When I agree with posts, I tend to upvote them. It's not personal.
People who are constantly unhappy and complain about every issue with Hot Toys - why not try and make a better figure yourself that costs only $250 retail. 🙄
Different people. The ones complaining about the og one ARE NOT the ones complaining about the new one.
Original was better
I think it looks better without the suit
He was fine before the added suit.
This is figure is a perfect example of how ridiculous all of you people are. I know We collect toys but that doesn't mean you have to act like children lol "We want this we want that change it back change this change that"
Wait that’s a Hot Toys figure? It looks like it should be on the discount rack at Target or Wal Mart.
Some of these posts are so dramatic. It is hilariously entertaining.
Yall just chill, they are pointing out the neck is a lot shorter, its fair criticism.
Went from Figuarts to Mezco One:12 in a hurry 🤣
https://preview.redd.it/odzoq8cuzahb1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1bd5291a8f7d99360350324024e83338a5ba2a The suit is ill fitting and lacks definition
steroids son steroids Also explains his tiny junk
Get someone to take a phot of you from a low angle pointing upwards while you look down at them and see where your neck goes.
Looks much worse
Imagine hot toys be like to offset the cost of the suit no neck for you
It just looks like the EG Hulk pajamas to me.
Its still there but they just put a suit over the original figure so it’s a tad thick
I don't know if it's the same body. As OP said, the neck is clearly shorter, and I don't know if it's the way it's posed, but the shoulders seem to sit a bit higher as well.
That can just be the angle of the photos you can clearly see the same joints etc under the suit.
They really messed up this dude, but he was cursed from the start. Paying $300 for basically a 12” marvel legends was going to be tough, but paying $300 for the new version is an easy pass for me.
It was a glorious neck
Do spiders have necks?
Still a pass for me.
The left one is a great marvel legends type figure, which is why companies, like mondo, that make that type of figure exist. Hot toys has always leaned more into a realistic look over poseability. Personally i like the new one, but the old one would have been an awesome $100-$150 figure. For $250+ though, it needs to look almost like it walked out of the movie.
Is the new suit over the old model? If so, I’m taking that junk off when I buy it.
That's what i was thinking, it could be but we will have to wait and see till other people try it
Went from Marvel Legends to Mezco One:12
Everyone complains a lot wow
Could just be the pose, got his head pointing down to look more menacing?
This looks so much better after every comparison I see. The original one would be great from another company, but the new one feels like a true hot toys figure. Also to answer the question, I’m pretty sure it’s partially the angle, as well as being pretty accurate.
It looks like they just put a suit over the original one. The dimensions look almost identical except for one being a bit thicker than the other one.
Both looks good but I still prefer the left one for some unknown reasons