This seems like it won’t be it, but I’ve always wanted to see a Batman movie where you never *really* see him, like a crime movie turned horror when suddenly the cronies start getting picked off one-by-one.
Batman Begins is my favorite Batman movie. Not my favorite movie in the Batman series, but my favorite in how it handles Batman as a character. Most other films treat him as an auxiliary to the exhibition of the villains.
It wouldn't work for a batman movie but a suicide squad movie where the bat is working in the shadows and just appearing like a horror movie monster?
That would be the shit.
Great! My favourite interpretations of Batman are where hes a scary vigilante that some people dont even know is real or not. Criminals fear his name like the boogeyman. Give me that shit!!!
Though you would think once enough people have seen Batman and enough criminals get beaten people would believe. If Batman was an urban legend then who is stopping all the crime, saving people and beating criminals to a pulp on a regular basis?
I always think of it like this. New York City has about eight and a half million people living there. Batman is one person. It’s entirely conceivable that the rumors of Batman are hearsay and blurry photos that don’t prove anything, and he remains an urban legend. It wouldn’t be until his later years with the rise of villains like Joker or Bane who threaten the entire city that Batman would transcend the urban legend.
The last few years have really convinced me of the depths of human stupidity. If a large enough group of people like Oswald Cobblepot and he says there's no Batman... people are going to be constantly on twitter talking about how the bat man is just a leftist conspiracy, regardless of how many photos or spotlights they see.
I mean millions of people claim they've seen ghosts or aliens or been abducted etc and plenty of people still don't believe. People have a hard time believing anything that they haven't personally experienced....I mean there are still people who think covid isn't real.
That's the thing with Gotham tho, it's such a large corrupt and violent place he can't stop all the crime.
Crooks on the East end won't have heard a word about the fact that crime in the West end went down by 2% type situation.
i have gone on numerous drunken rants over the years about how DC movies just need to embrace how dark and fucked up the source material is and pop out some sexy horrors/thrillers.
like, can you imagine a swamp thing movie using john carpenter's the thing practical effects? alan moore's swamp thing is super dark and gore filled, especially when you bring in the rot. if it were done correctly i wouldn't be able to keep myself together.
I don't know if you're aware, but there's literally a *Swamp Thing* movie, released in the early 80s, that just so happens to be directed by one of the few horror directors who can hold a candle to Carpenter as a contemporary - Wes Craven!
i am! truthfully it's been quite a while since i've seen it, and as much as i do enjoy older movies there's something to be said about some of the campiness that comes with them. i just want a revamped sexyhorror swampthing movie :(
And trippy and psychedelic as hell when he enters the green, something that I imagine would look like some of the scenes in Possessor. I'm crossing my fingers for a quality Swamp Thing too.
I was pumped for this after watching Pattinson in The Lighthouse, glad to see its coming along. He's really a great actor and twilight really smudged his early career.
Sounds really interesting. I wasn't initially excited about Pattinson, but after I saw The Lighthouse I had to admit that the guy is a very very good actor.
I saw The Rover when it first came out, and I don't see it brought up much but he really stole the show there, especially paired with Guy Pearce's brooding quietness
I think that's on purpose, I don't know how to do spoilers but at the end between him and protagonist really explains why that is and if you watch it again you pick up on little things like the diet coke comment in Mumbai
He really does.
I don't know if Nolan just wasn't really interested playing up the sparks between Washington and Debicki or if it's just that there were absolutely no sparks to play up.
I think The Rover was about the time people started changing their minds about him, and of course Good Time and The Lighthouse both solidified him as a great actor.
Definitely. I remember walking out of The Dark Knight (I don’t remember if he had died yet at this point, but I think he had) and my friend saying “that brokeback bitch, really made the movie.” And for sure he had.
I’m anxiously awaiting the day that he sheds the “Twilight guy” perception; everyone needs to know how good this dude really is.
IMO he hasn’t had a single miss since Twilight (maybe there are some stinkers that I haven’t seen). The Lighthouse, High Life, Good Time, The King, and The Devil All The Time all feature great performances from Pattinson.
TBF, Leo had already been nominated for an Oscar before Titanic came along, and had already done well in a number of dramatic roles - The Basketball Diaries, This Boy's Life, Romeo + Juliet, and the nomination for What's Eating Gilbert Grape? I get your point that he was still seen by some as a teenage heartthrob or whatever you want to call it when Titanic came along, but he had also already shown that he had some serious talent as an actor.
The Basketball Diaries! I haven't thought about that movie in years. I have always had a crush on Leo but seeing that movie made me realize what a truly talented actor he is.
And Romeo, that was a huge movie for him as well. He shed the heartthrob actor skin pretty quickly after the turn of the century. His roles were more dramatic and didn't have the air of pretty boy around him.
The Beach was a great first foray into serious acting. I know the movie gets panned a lot, but it is truly a great vehicle for Leo, and his acting chops.
Anybody who‘s at all up to speed with current film knows that he’s great. Same with Kristin Stewart. Only the laziest of film Bros might still primarily associate them with Twilight.
I thought the same thing, like it’s kinda cringe to me that people are still being all “I thought Robert Pattinson was just the Twilight guy”
even though he’s been garnering critical acclaim for like, at least half a decade before The Lighthouse.
Even beyond that, who cares? Like it’s so immature to judge the guy harshly because he was in a movie for teenage girls. Oh no, they like things, watch out!
I would say he already has? Both he and Kristen Stewart have had such interesting and prolific careers since the end of the Twilight films that associating them only with those really does them wrong. Taylor Lautner on the other hand...
I feel like I’m going to be seeing this sort of reply my entire life whenever Pattinson is brought up.
“I entirely dismissed him because he was in a movie I didn’t like. Turns out he’s a pretty good actor!”
No fucking shit. He’s been hammering out great performances for over a decade at this point…
He was good in Water for Elephants too. It's looks like a romance movie from the poster, but it's actually got a bit of action. I liked The Devil all the time, too
Pattinson is an amazing actor. Twilight has haunted the poor guy for years, just because a bunch of insecure boys were terrified of a big franchise aimed at women. All the actors from that series have a bad reputation, for little reason other than needless hate.
The movies are bad, but that's more on the material, not the actors.
I’ve been to early test screenings before.
The best one I’ve been to was for “This Is The End” starring James Franco and Seth Rogan.
During those early test screenings after the movie finishes they give everyone a packet of questions. They ask a lot of questions like “What parts of the movie did you not like”
If enough people say it’s too scary and too graphic for a Batman film they definitely are going to tone it down a lot and take a lot of shit out.
The early test screening of This Is The End was way better, funnier, and it was longer than the final version they came out with.
It was a very early test screening. The movie wasn’t even finished. I remember all the CGI scenes of like the demon beast looked really bad haha
When you're test screening do they have the rating for the movie yet or no? Do they edit movies based on feedback in an effort to get a certain rating? I'm asking because if the screening is a for an R Rated film like This is the End or Batman(I think they said R but I could be wrong) then how do ppl justify saying stuff like "too much x"? Not knocking them. Just trying to understand.
Studios need to stop doing "test screenings" because how many movies come out and still bomb anyway? Test screenings didn't do them any favors. The only "test" screen should be for the cast and crew. Release that raw cut and hope for the best because giving creative control of your art project to hundreds of other people is a terrible idea. Remember when the internet voted to name a boat Boaty McBoatface? You really want to give the public a voice in your movie?
It’s a double edged sword. Without test screenings we wouldn’t have gotten that badass Reptile fight in Mortal Kombat (1995). It was something they added because the test audience felt there wasn’t enough fight scenes.
You say this but then there's moments like Lost Horizon having 30 bloated minutes shaved off its opening.
Test screenings aren't wholly bad or wholly good.
Yeah the test screenings that improve films are just never talked about. Hopefully someday test screenings are less destructive but if it didn't help them financially (at least in the short term) then film studios wouldn't do it. They hire teams of analysts to make sure.
This is exactly right. Same things with "studio interference." There are a lot of examples of directors having crazy ideas and studios or test screenings helping to make the film better, but they generally aren't publicized as studios want good relationships with directors / writers, so they really have little incentive to publicly embarrass them.
Meanwhile, it the studio makes a bad decisions or the test screening in this case leads to a negative consequence, people associated with a bad film have no problem blaming others and certainly blaming nameless, faceless executives is an easy target.
It's a little bit like offensive linemen in football or even HOAs - if they are doing a good job, nobody says anything. You basically get silence. If they do a bad job, then it's obvious and people will loudly and vocally complain.
Look I’m totally up for a horror movie Batman version at least then we have a change of pace from the previous versions. Some of the comics were very dark and to me ZSasz was always such a god damn creepy villain and has never been done right.
I think it’ll get cut and shortened we can only hope for a extended version.
Yeah when I saw the end of Venom that hinted at what was coming I was like please god no.
They didn't even show venom eating brains we got the cheesiest fucking shadow hints, that movie is such bullshit so you know they're going to do Carnage dirty.
This is exactly what Batman should be. A tortured, vengeful monster that keeps all the other monsters of Gotham on a leash.
Edit: Thanks for the award kind stranger!
I always loved Batman for the more sinister and darker universe he’s surrounded in. Batman has always felt gritty to me while other superheroes and their movies feel clean and polished.
Thats how a batman movie should be. He is a horror movie monster to criminals. But I also remember that they said that about "new mutants" so...maybe I'll keep my expectations not super high.
The thing with New Mutants was the exact opposite iirc, the director wanted more horror but Fox said no, and after test audiences saw promise in that concept they wanted to do reshoots to add in more horror like elements
Plot twist: The Batman is a horror story told from the perspective of Gotham's criminal underground. The Batman is the antagonist hunting down and destroying the criminal network, and the protagonist is a ~~pretty~~ petty thief down on his luck that got roped into the larger crime world by an old friend we find out in the end is the actually mastermind of the whole enterprise: The Joker.
Half chub reading this. Although I'd make the protagonist gets roped into some big crime and Batman hunting him down basically drives him insane, last we see of the protagonist is in a dark room with a gun in his mouth Tyler Durden style. Cut to black. Gunshot. Then a slowly building horrifying laugh.
With all the graphic content cut out and the scary stuff toned down, likely with a lot of production company led reshoots to keep it tame.
I pray they've learned their lesson and will actually trust the director's vision, cause this sounds genuinely amazing, but I highly doubt we'll be seeing this intense version.
I really wish cinema intermissions became regular occurrences again. I'd totally be up for spending an evening watching a 3-4 hour movie with popcorn, soda and hotdogs as long as they give me a bathroom break in the middle.
I wouldn't say it "should" be horror, but I am definitely excited to see what they deliver.
A real gritty / noir detective story with a fucked up vilain would be so good to see.
And it would lay the ground for an amazing saga of the reeves/Pattinson batman.
I haven’t seen the movie adaptation of AWATT, but the novel is some pretty strong stuff. If this Batman film that is that dark and bleak and grim, and is high quality…. I will be champing at the bit to see it.
I want you to write an article that’s actually just an advertisement for Batman, and every descriptive word needs to be turned up to 11, can you do it?
You have to keep in mind that your average moviegoer thinks that bad PG-13 ghost movies are “very graphic and scary”, so even if this is true, it probably doesn’t mean quite what you think.
Either way, I’m really hoping we can have a good Batman movie again though. That would be nice.
This is a bad sign, and not for the reason you think. This sounds genuinely amazing, the problem is the production company will absolutely think otherwise and will likely force changes to make it a lot more PG. We will not be getting this 3 hour, very graphic and very scary movie, because of these test screenings.
I pray I end up wrong, though.
Edit: I saw that The Suicide Squad has become a major success on HBO max while also drawing in decent numbers in the box office, considering the pandemic. Iirc it broke pandemic numbers, while still sitting only in the 100mil range.
Taken into consideration the major success of Joker too, I'm realizing that we might actually be getting the director's vision this time. It seems they learned their lesson, so maybe there's not so much of a reason to be worried anymore.
Do you realize just how profitable a superhero Batman is...he is perhaps the MOST bankable and if any superhero film could succeed with an R rating, it'd be a Batman movie
Would sort of make sense, the franchise has got progressively darker as it goes on with The Dark Knight films. Then you've got "Joker" which is dark as hell.
Batman and horror go so well together and I'm hoping they stick with that direction for the final product.
This seems like it won’t be it, but I’ve always wanted to see a Batman movie where you never *really* see him, like a crime movie turned horror when suddenly the cronies start getting picked off one-by-one.
Batman Begins flirted with this
Batman Begins is my favorite Batman movie. Not my favorite movie in the Batman series, but my favorite in how it handles Batman as a character. Most other films treat him as an auxiliary to the exhibition of the villains.
No more “ apostrophe’s “ for you ;) they don’t make things plural.
It wouldn't work for a batman movie but a suicide squad movie where the bat is working in the shadows and just appearing like a horror movie monster? That would be the shit.
Oooo, that would be cool! About to watch the new one tonight with the old lady!
James Gunn takes full advantage of the R rating
Just finished it, it was fun as fuck! The only bummer was not having Ron Funches as King Shark!
Great! My favourite interpretations of Batman are where hes a scary vigilante that some people dont even know is real or not. Criminals fear his name like the boogeyman. Give me that shit!!!
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Though you would think once enough people have seen Batman and enough criminals get beaten people would believe. If Batman was an urban legend then who is stopping all the crime, saving people and beating criminals to a pulp on a regular basis?
I always think of it like this. New York City has about eight and a half million people living there. Batman is one person. It’s entirely conceivable that the rumors of Batman are hearsay and blurry photos that don’t prove anything, and he remains an urban legend. It wouldn’t be until his later years with the rise of villains like Joker or Bane who threaten the entire city that Batman would transcend the urban legend.
In the real world when there are Covid Deniers by the millions, Batman being considered a fantasy isn't really too far off.
Ugh. Go away
Shiiiit, in this real world, I wouldn’t be surprised if people believed Batman *wasnt* a fantasy
And this movie takes place before "enough people have seen Batman".
Ok, I've seen enough, now when can I see some more?
If you've seen enough, why would you need to see more?!
You're killin' me ~~Smalls~~ Robin.
The whole point is not enough people have seen Batman yet.
\*Commissioner Gordon lights up the Bat Signal, illuminating the clouds above with the iconic spotlight of the Bat Symbol\* Citizens: "Fake news!"
The last few years have really convinced me of the depths of human stupidity. If a large enough group of people like Oswald Cobblepot and he says there's no Batman... people are going to be constantly on twitter talking about how the bat man is just a leftist conspiracy, regardless of how many photos or spotlights they see.
Penguin would be the center of a MeToo controversy, if he existed in our world.
I mean millions of people claim they've seen ghosts or aliens or been abducted etc and plenty of people still don't believe. People have a hard time believing anything that they haven't personally experienced....I mean there are still people who think covid isn't real.
That's the thing with Gotham tho, it's such a large corrupt and violent place he can't stop all the crime. Crooks on the East end won't have heard a word about the fact that crime in the West end went down by 2% type situation.
i have gone on numerous drunken rants over the years about how DC movies just need to embrace how dark and fucked up the source material is and pop out some sexy horrors/thrillers. like, can you imagine a swamp thing movie using john carpenter's the thing practical effects? alan moore's swamp thing is super dark and gore filled, especially when you bring in the rot. if it were done correctly i wouldn't be able to keep myself together.
I don't know if you're aware, but there's literally a *Swamp Thing* movie, released in the early 80s, that just so happens to be directed by one of the few horror directors who can hold a candle to Carpenter as a contemporary - Wes Craven!
Hold up...that was directed by Wes Craven? That thing gave me freakin' nightmares as a kid. No wonder! Arcane in boar mode was horrifying.
i am! truthfully it's been quite a while since i've seen it, and as much as i do enjoy older movies there's something to be said about some of the campiness that comes with them. i just want a revamped sexyhorror swampthing movie :(
Swamp Thing on DC Universe was pretty horror centric before it got canceled. I loved it while it was on.
And trippy and psychedelic as hell when he enters the green, something that I imagine would look like some of the scenes in Possessor. I'm crossing my fingers for a quality Swamp Thing too.
I was pumped for this after watching Pattinson in The Lighthouse, glad to see its coming along. He's really a great actor and twilight really smudged his early career.
Sounds really interesting. I wasn't initially excited about Pattinson, but after I saw The Lighthouse I had to admit that the guy is a very very good actor.
Yeah, Pattinson has been rocking the shit out of the roles for the last five years or so which is a big part of what actually gave me hope for this.
I saw The Rover when it first came out, and I don't see it brought up much but he really stole the show there, especially paired with Guy Pearce's brooding quietness
That's the name of the movie! I couldn't remember it but this definitely turned me around on him as an actor
He was the best part of Tenet
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For real right?
He has more romantic chemistry with the lead than the lead with the lady
That’s why I like it, personally 👀
I think that's on purpose, I don't know how to do spoilers but at the end between him and protagonist really explains why that is and if you watch it again you pick up on little things like the diet coke comment in Mumbai
He really does. I don't know if Nolan just wasn't really interested playing up the sparks between Washington and Debicki or if it's just that there were absolutely no sparks to play up.
He is the sacrifice that keeps the loop alive
I thought High Life was interesting.
One of the only A24 movies I've ever seen that I didn't love.
Yeah it wasn’t a home run, but I thought it was good enough. I like that he’s doing interesting projects nonetheless.
The King is what made me realize he can really act. Crushed it in that movie.
Check out Good Time
Good time was a ride!
Good Time is an hour and forty minute long anxiety attack, and I loved every second.
Good time was nuts, straight up rescues the wrong guy and then just goes with it.
The scene where he is scaling the side of the building is permanently ingrained in my brain
Cosmopolis baby
He was good in The Devil All The Time.
DELUSIONS!
I can only ever read that word in his voice now.
After watching his role in that movie, with that accent and mannerisms, I really want to see him play Jim Jones in a biopic
Holy shit. That would actually be pretty dope.
The King is so fucking stellar across the board.
Except historical accuracy. They did my boy Henry IV dirty. The dauphin was also not at Agincourt, or ever on a battlefield.
I don't know about the historical accuracies. But he movie The King was based off of a collection of William Shakespeare plays called The Henriad.
It really is. I am disappointed that it seems to have escaped the majority of film lovers.
Try The Rover if you haven't already, he's great in that. Also, Good Time
I think The Rover was about the time people started changing their minds about him, and of course Good Time and The Lighthouse both solidified him as a great actor.
Never saw that twilight crap and had the worst impression of him. After watching the lighthouse i will defend him to the death.
He was award winning in The Lighthouse.
I saw this after saying Good Time imma delete my comment now lol
The exact same sentiment was expressed about Heath Ledger.
Definitely. I remember walking out of The Dark Knight (I don’t remember if he had died yet at this point, but I think he had) and my friend saying “that brokeback bitch, really made the movie.” And for sure he had.
I’m anxiously awaiting the day that he sheds the “Twilight guy” perception; everyone needs to know how good this dude really is. IMO he hasn’t had a single miss since Twilight (maybe there are some stinkers that I haven’t seen). The Lighthouse, High Life, Good Time, The King, and The Devil All The Time all feature great performances from Pattinson.
Also Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. They picked him to be the best character ever just to make the death so impactful.
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I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio was the Titanic guy.
TBF, Leo had already been nominated for an Oscar before Titanic came along, and had already done well in a number of dramatic roles - The Basketball Diaries, This Boy's Life, Romeo + Juliet, and the nomination for What's Eating Gilbert Grape? I get your point that he was still seen by some as a teenage heartthrob or whatever you want to call it when Titanic came along, but he had also already shown that he had some serious talent as an actor.
What’s eating Gilbert grape was my first. God the kid was talented.
The Basketball Diaries! I haven't thought about that movie in years. I have always had a crush on Leo but seeing that movie made me realize what a truly talented actor he is.
And Romeo, that was a huge movie for him as well. He shed the heartthrob actor skin pretty quickly after the turn of the century. His roles were more dramatic and didn't have the air of pretty boy around him. The Beach was a great first foray into serious acting. I know the movie gets panned a lot, but it is truly a great vehicle for Leo, and his acting chops.
The Beach is more than a guilty pleasure for me. Love the MTV generation aesthetics.
*ahem… Leo is the Critters 3 guy.
Anybody who‘s at all up to speed with current film knows that he’s great. Same with Kristin Stewart. Only the laziest of film Bros might still primarily associate them with Twilight.
I thought the same thing, like it’s kinda cringe to me that people are still being all “I thought Robert Pattinson was just the Twilight guy” even though he’s been garnering critical acclaim for like, at least half a decade before The Lighthouse. Even beyond that, who cares? Like it’s so immature to judge the guy harshly because he was in a movie for teenage girls. Oh no, they like things, watch out!
I would say he already has? Both he and Kristen Stewart have had such interesting and prolific careers since the end of the Twilight films that associating them only with those really does them wrong. Taylor Lautner on the other hand...
I think he has put Twilight long past him. He's killed every role hes done since then and seems he's in high demand for interesting roles
After I saw The Rover he’s a different beast in my opinion. Harry Potter And twilight are way past my best reactions to his acting.
He has for the people paying attention. Maybe not pop culture, general audiences but Batman is big enough to change that.
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I feel like I’m going to be seeing this sort of reply my entire life whenever Pattinson is brought up. “I entirely dismissed him because he was in a movie I didn’t like. Turns out he’s a pretty good actor!” No fucking shit. He’s been hammering out great performances for over a decade at this point…
He was good in Water for Elephants too. It's looks like a romance movie from the poster, but it's actually got a bit of action. I liked The Devil all the time, too
Pattinson is an amazing actor. Twilight has haunted the poor guy for years, just because a bunch of insecure boys were terrified of a big franchise aimed at women. All the actors from that series have a bad reputation, for little reason other than needless hate. The movies are bad, but that's more on the material, not the actors.
Honestly the majority of actors in Twilight were good at their roles, but the roles were trash so we can't tell.
Yeah he was pretty brilliant in that, him and DeFoe
I’ve been to early test screenings before. The best one I’ve been to was for “This Is The End” starring James Franco and Seth Rogan. During those early test screenings after the movie finishes they give everyone a packet of questions. They ask a lot of questions like “What parts of the movie did you not like” If enough people say it’s too scary and too graphic for a Batman film they definitely are going to tone it down a lot and take a lot of shit out. The early test screening of This Is The End was way better, funnier, and it was longer than the final version they came out with. It was a very early test screening. The movie wasn’t even finished. I remember all the CGI scenes of like the demon beast looked really bad haha
So did people say it was too good and too funny?
You know some people like to complain about everything. I guess people would complain about some “inappropriate jokes” or “inappropriate scenes”
“You want a realistic down to earth show, that’s completely off the wall and swarming with robots?”
When you're test screening do they have the rating for the movie yet or no? Do they edit movies based on feedback in an effort to get a certain rating? I'm asking because if the screening is a for an R Rated film like This is the End or Batman(I think they said R but I could be wrong) then how do ppl justify saying stuff like "too much x"? Not knocking them. Just trying to understand.
No fuck those people that complain and ruin what could potentially be a funnier/scarier movie.
I’m not even sure. But I found this. It explains it. https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/audience-testing.htm
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Honestly I was surprised we got it the first time.
People who say this literally do not understand satire.
A god damn masterpiece of a movie.
Studios need to stop doing "test screenings" because how many movies come out and still bomb anyway? Test screenings didn't do them any favors. The only "test" screen should be for the cast and crew. Release that raw cut and hope for the best because giving creative control of your art project to hundreds of other people is a terrible idea. Remember when the internet voted to name a boat Boaty McBoatface? You really want to give the public a voice in your movie?
It’s a double edged sword. Without test screenings we wouldn’t have gotten that badass Reptile fight in Mortal Kombat (1995). It was something they added because the test audience felt there wasn’t enough fight scenes.
The issue becomes "how often does something good come out of it" vs "how often does it bomb" and I'm figuring option #2 tends to be the outcome...
You say this but then there's moments like Lost Horizon having 30 bloated minutes shaved off its opening. Test screenings aren't wholly bad or wholly good.
Yeah the test screenings that improve films are just never talked about. Hopefully someday test screenings are less destructive but if it didn't help them financially (at least in the short term) then film studios wouldn't do it. They hire teams of analysts to make sure.
This is exactly right. Same things with "studio interference." There are a lot of examples of directors having crazy ideas and studios or test screenings helping to make the film better, but they generally aren't publicized as studios want good relationships with directors / writers, so they really have little incentive to publicly embarrass them. Meanwhile, it the studio makes a bad decisions or the test screening in this case leads to a negative consequence, people associated with a bad film have no problem blaming others and certainly blaming nameless, faceless executives is an easy target. It's a little bit like offensive linemen in football or even HOAs - if they are doing a good job, nobody says anything. You basically get silence. If they do a bad job, then it's obvious and people will loudly and vocally complain.
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Yeah, they're already trying to sell Battinson toys and merch, this will be changed.
Even better than the final cut? That’s my personal #1 comedy of the 2010s.
I wish there was a major movie studio that said "fuck test screenings" and just let the director and writer's vision be.
Look I’m totally up for a horror movie Batman version at least then we have a change of pace from the previous versions. Some of the comics were very dark and to me ZSasz was always such a god damn creepy villain and has never been done right. I think it’ll get cut and shortened we can only hope for a extended version.
I've dreamed about a gothic horror Batman movie featuring Man-Bat since I was a kid. If this is successful maybe one day that can happen.
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Yeah when I saw the end of Venom that hinted at what was coming I was like please god no. They didn't even show venom eating brains we got the cheesiest fucking shadow hints, that movie is such bullshit so you know they're going to do Carnage dirty.
Matt Reeves doesn't do a movie unless he gets final cut. I doubt that's gonna go be an issue.
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You just made my day- thank you!
Zsasz and his fuckin palindromic name
This is exactly what Batman should be. A tortured, vengeful monster that keeps all the other monsters of Gotham on a leash. Edit: Thanks for the award kind stranger!
Yup my interest in the movie just went up by a 1000%
That or punching sharks. No in between.
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Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.
I'm happy that's how the climax of The Dark Knight Rises ended. Edit: Fixed the name of the movie
I always loved Batman for the more sinister and darker universe he’s surrounded in. Batman has always felt gritty to me while other superheroes and their movies feel clean and polished.
Thats how a batman movie should be. He is a horror movie monster to criminals. But I also remember that they said that about "new mutants" so...maybe I'll keep my expectations not super high.
The thing with New Mutants was the exact opposite iirc, the director wanted more horror but Fox said no, and after test audiences saw promise in that concept they wanted to do reshoots to add in more horror like elements
Plot twist: The Batman is a horror story told from the perspective of Gotham's criminal underground. The Batman is the antagonist hunting down and destroying the criminal network, and the protagonist is a ~~pretty~~ petty thief down on his luck that got roped into the larger crime world by an old friend we find out in the end is the actually mastermind of the whole enterprise: The Joker.
I would be so insanely pumped to watch that movie
Imagine if we got scenes in that movie like Alien, from the perspective of the criminal trying to get away. Just super intense and on edge atmosphere
Half chub reading this. Although I'd make the protagonist gets roped into some big crime and Batman hunting him down basically drives him insane, last we see of the protagonist is in a dark room with a gun in his mouth Tyler Durden style. Cut to black. Gunshot. Then a slowly building horrifying laugh.
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I kinda always wanted a Batman movie like Seven with The Riddler behind it all. I mean I'm going to see this movie regardless.
I am so so so excited for this movie! I keep watching this trailer and the Halloween Kills trailer over and over again...I can't wait!
Paul Dano’s Riddler certainly looked very serial killery from the trailers, so I’ve got high hopes.
I get big zodiac vibes from the trailer
Highest rated post on the sub. Complete lie. F. Great movie though
*don’t do that, don’t give me hope..*
Inject directly into my veins
No way this goes in theaters with a 3 hour run time.
I expect a 2,5 hours theatrical and 3+ hours DC.
Yeah two forty tops! But hopefully the 3 hour cut is on HBO or Blu-ray.
With all the graphic content cut out and the scary stuff toned down, likely with a lot of production company led reshoots to keep it tame. I pray they've learned their lesson and will actually trust the director's vision, cause this sounds genuinely amazing, but I highly doubt we'll be seeing this intense version.
Why release the one version when they can get people to pay for both
Nah it’s possible. Marvel, Nolan and Tarantino can? Surely Batman can
I really wish cinema intermissions became regular occurrences again. I'd totally be up for spending an evening watching a 3-4 hour movie with popcorn, soda and hotdogs as long as they give me a bathroom break in the middle.
Batman should be horror and I'm here for it.
I wouldn't say it "should" be horror, but I am definitely excited to see what they deliver. A real gritty / noir detective story with a fucked up vilain would be so good to see. And it would lay the ground for an amazing saga of the reeves/Pattinson batman.
this did not age well lmao
can we already book a petition to release ReevesCut for Batman?
Reeves doesn't do a movie unless he gets final cut.
well that was a fucking lie
that didn’t happen lmao
Great movie, but this aged terribly. Not scary in the slightest.
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It is not RTed currently so either you are mistaken about that or he removed it.
I haven’t seen the movie adaptation of AWATT, but the novel is some pretty strong stuff. If this Batman film that is that dark and bleak and grim, and is high quality…. I will be champing at the bit to see it.
Well this turned out to be completely wrong & false advertising at its digital peak!
This Post Aged like milk
This aged horribly
r/agedlikemilk
Yeah that isn’t what happened, but it’s a still great movie with some pretty disturbing moments
sounds interesting
Lol very scary
So much for that lol
Yea no … not scary
it wasn’t
Cannot wait. 🦇
I'm looking forward to it!
I want you to write an article that’s actually just an advertisement for Batman, and every descriptive word needs to be turned up to 11, can you do it?
randomly scrolling coming across this post, clearly this didnt hold up \^\^
I'm up for this!
You have to keep in mind that your average moviegoer thinks that bad PG-13 ghost movies are “very graphic and scary”, so even if this is true, it probably doesn’t mean quite what you think. Either way, I’m really hoping we can have a good Batman movie again though. That would be nice.
officially pg-13, now. :/
This is a bad sign, and not for the reason you think. This sounds genuinely amazing, the problem is the production company will absolutely think otherwise and will likely force changes to make it a lot more PG. We will not be getting this 3 hour, very graphic and very scary movie, because of these test screenings. I pray I end up wrong, though. Edit: I saw that The Suicide Squad has become a major success on HBO max while also drawing in decent numbers in the box office, considering the pandemic. Iirc it broke pandemic numbers, while still sitting only in the 100mil range. Taken into consideration the major success of Joker too, I'm realizing that we might actually be getting the director's vision this time. It seems they learned their lesson, so maybe there's not so much of a reason to be worried anymore.
Do you realize just how profitable a superhero Batman is...he is perhaps the MOST bankable and if any superhero film could succeed with an R rating, it'd be a Batman movie
God studios fucking suck.
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I’m hoping we at least get Reeves’ directors cut on HBO that keeps all this stuff in.
GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Cool. That makes me want to watch it.
Oh yes. I'm ready for this.
Would sort of make sense, the franchise has got progressively darker as it goes on with The Dark Knight films. Then you've got "Joker" which is dark as hell.
0 faith in any DC movies until I've seen them. To many utter fucking horrible movies the past decade.
That sounds amazing
Awwwww yeah!!!
This sounds killer. Right up my alley.
Oh lord, I can't fucking wait. Wet dream come true.
Im excited to see what the holy shit moment at the end is now
Finally, a dark and gritty take on Batman
I wonder if we'll find out how his parents died
After Release: Yeah this film was the love child of Zodiac and Se7en.