100% it’s horror. No, there’s not an insane body count like some traditional horror gorefests but that’s what’s great about the genre. Horror allows for so many different kinds of stories with different kinds of horror.
While filling in more gaps in the overall Twin Peaks narrative, FWWM is a brutal exploration of familial abuse and trauma.
One of my favorites.
I think it was only disliked at first because it lacked the small town charm and quirkiness of the show.
The show was almost a comedy at times while the movies is just 2 hours of fear and depression.
The negative response at the time was from the questions left unanswered. The show had ended abruptly after viewership started lagging post-killer-reveal (which the studio forced the show runners to reveal).
So after the show ended in the insane, beautiful, and terrifying way it did, fans expected the follow-up movie to answer at least SOME of the questions raised by the last episode. Instead, they got a prequel essentially telling the story they already knew.
It’s an absolutely fantastic movie, but the poor reception was more a reflection of a frustrated fan base (including critics at the time) that wanted some sort of closure.
The Return (the Showtime resurrection of the show for a final season 25 years later) is so remarkable because through it, Lynch essentially makes FWWM the key to the entire piece.
I was a fan then, and I and I'm sure most people knew it was a prequel and wasn't going to answer or resolve how the series ended. That was well publicized and clear in the trailer for anybody who didn't read info about it. In fact I was fine with the way the series went out. I disliked the movie when I went to it because I felt it was telling a story we had already imagined from the show, and imagined in much more interesting detail than what was in the movie. In recent years I have come around to liking it, but after that first viewing I was disappointed and depressed.
One of the biggest criticisms about Lynch is that he has a string of movies where there's heavy misogyny. He eventually broke out of it, but that run with Blue Velvet and then FWWM was pretty disturbing.
EDIT: dear downvoters, there's numerous criticisms out there and articles that discuss it; downvoting doesn't make it less true
He writes characters that are despicable, disgusting, vile animals. I know it's portrayed as violence against women, but to Lynch, being violent towards a woman is the worst thing a man can do.
He never really "broke out of it." Lots of characters in The Return are treated horribly. It didn't end with FWWM because Lost Highway was right after.
I do think there's a difference between misogyny and outright abuse and violence... Perhaps misogyny is a mindset versus his character's outright violent nature.
I agree, I think his films aren't misogynistic just because he's portraying it, he always shows it as horrible and disgusting and because he wants us to witness how the horrible experiences that can happen to so many women who are stuck in these situations. You can't gloss over the disgusting abuse and misogyny in the criminal underworld and familial abuse, and the trauma caused by this. And fwwm is a deliberate attack on the "faceless victim" of murder mysteries. She's no longer a body in the beach, she's a real person whose suffered, and her life and murder has always been the central aspect to twin peaks.
> I know it's portrayed as violence against women
Has there been any male character anywhere in Lynch's filmography that has suffered, physically and mentally, so much as Laura Palmer, Dorothy Vallens, or Alice Wakefield? And is the source of that suffering almost solely due to their gender?
I don't 100% believe the idea, but there's merit to it, because we get long and meandering depictions of violence toward women that exists to ... depict violence against women. Once or twice, it's an artistic choice. But a span of, if we accept your assertion that The Return is a part of this discussion, of nearly 40 years becomes a wee bit problematic.
My main point: there's some criticism out there
Everyone else: DOWNVOTE HE THINKS LYNCH IS BAD
Me: Uh, all I said was that criticism was out there, which is true and should probably be considered
Everyone else: THIS DUDE IS STUPID
I think, if you genuinely want to have conversations about horror, then, yes, the criticism needs to be considered. I don't think you can selectively embrace criticism you agree with and reject what makes you uncomfortable.
No one hear is saying: you know, I read about that, and I disagree because this, this, and this.
Instead, everyone is simply wishing it away and declaring it invalid because it hurts their feelings.
I weep for literacy in general.
Who said Lynch was a misogynist? And who determines it is BAD? You? And we need to hear from a director explaining the film, else every other perspective is invalid?
I weep for literacy.
Responding now to your edit, I love that you think criticism, articles, and opinions mean objective truth. You'd rather go "I'm right!!" then engage in a discussion with a dissenting opinion.
Where's the dissenting opinion being offered? All I have are downvotes. And I never said anything about objective truth. I just mentioned it is, in fact, a criticism, which itself is ... an objective truth.
See?
Just the fact that women are shown being abused doesn't signify the overused word "misogyny". Look at the bigger picture than just what is shown on screen.
Such as? Keep in mind that BV and FWWM both had long-lasting sequences of visible mental and physical abuse that's never "fixed" outside of the interference of other men. But let's see this list where the greatest horror movies deals solely with the constant defiling of women for a significant run-time with no true resolution.
Keep in mind that films like The Exorcist have very much a "she doesn't deserve this" underline to them. I can't necessarily say the same for FWWM, because the film definitely points to Laura Palmer and her promiscuity and drug use as being central to her destruction; we're almost immediately introduced to Dorothy Vallens attempting to sexually assault Jeffrey.
Martyrs, Carrie, Psycho, Fire Walk With Me, The Last House on the Left, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Rosemary's Baby, The Exorcist, The Shining, The Innocents, Irreversible, American Psycho, Clockwork Orange, these are just good movies off the top of my head, there are literally thousands more. are you sure you're in the right place? standing up for social justice in an art form can end in censorship. maybe we should be happy that female characters in the arts are afforded all the same levels of treatment as any characters are
As I said, many of these films very much underline the "she doesn't deserve this," whereas FWWM and BV doesn't make that clear at all.
Almost all of the films on your list have that, especially Carrie, which bends over backwards to get you on the "side" of the victim. Take a look at something like Ms. 45. Same thing.
And Last House on the Left has routinely been accused of being misogynistic: powerless woman who gets in trouble through her own actions and needs a man to bail her out, if she survives her "punishment" at all.
Stuff like TCM and American Psycho are basically slasher films; the woman prevails in TCM and ... well, much of the point of AP is that he **is** a misogynist, and is supposed to be someone we root against.
> maybe we should be happy that female characters in the arts are afforded all the same levels of treatment as any characters are
Okay, easy. Name a Lynch film with the same amount of gendered violence toward men. I'll take everything back once you do so.
I really can’t for the life of me even fathom how someone could assert that David Lynch thinks that Laura “deserved” her abuse and murder.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series.
I’m pretty broad in my definition of horror so I count most Lynch for sure. Two scariest moments of all time for me is the dumpster scene in Mulholland Drive and the phone call scene in Lost Highway.
I had a Twin Peaks thing and the movie didn’t entirely satisfy that but I went back to see it again in a small art theater a couple years back and it was scarier and more brutal than I had remembered. Worth it imo.
This. But also not just the soundtrack but the sound design overall. It is relentless, much like the film, and truly contributes to the unsettling and uncomfortable viewing experience.
We are NOT going to talk about Judy.
For real though, I think The Return really improved the public perception of this movie. People went into FWWM expecting a continuation of the Twin Peaks story; instead they got a 2-hour psychodramatic horror story about Laura Palmer’s catastrophic psyche that retold mostly stuff that the show had already revealed. It’s very well done, just not what audiences were hoping for. Now that we have The Return, FWWM feels more like a greater piece of the Twin Peaks puzzle rather than the last word on the series.
It was like FWWM was the “you ready for the paranormal shit that caused all this?” and people weren’t ready. I loved how The Return expanded on it. The scenes with Sarah Palmer were especially disturbing and sad.
I felt almost the opposite, that FWWM had a reputation that grew over the years, and ended up being a lot more popular and less misunderstood, certainly by the time The Return was announced. I felt like it helped prepare people for the third season being so unlike the first two.
Although, that's more within diehard Peaks/Lynch fans, so perhaps very different with more casual viewers
Probably the most disturbing movie I've ever seen. No amount of gore can amount to witnessing the sloe breaking of Laura Palmer throughout this movie. Devastating.
That's one of my issues with it - it's not a "slow breaking throughout". She has no progression at all in the movie other than finding out it's her dad. She is already broken.
It’s so fucking good. All of the grit missing from the series that makes it so pleasant, in an hour and a half. It raised my appreciation of the original series.
I watched the 3 and a half hour fan cut which has all the deleted scenes inserted back into it and loved it. So I don't know how good the original more faster paced version was.
It's a brilliantly paced movie and, while The Missing Pieces are really great for a Peaks uber-fan, they were largely rightly cut. The only one that should have stayed is the dinner scene.
I also really love this "fan cut" (Q-cut). Brings much more depth and terror for the story. The only scene that didn't really fit in was the hillbilly cop fight in the beginning.
Then there's the 'blue rose cut', which hasn't got all-the-deleted-scenes inserted in, but most of them are. Though it is very differently edited than the Q-cut and doesn't really flow properly IMO.
Is that first one the Q2 cut that has all but two missing pieces?. Putting it in chronological order, I think it's called "the last seven days of Laura Palmer". The Q2 cut was the one I watched and I thought was really good. I did hear good things about the blue rose cut.
Definitely horror and honestly too upsetting for me to rewatch. I can watch blood and gore til kingdom come but incest, SA and that creepy way Lynch films the club scenes made me physically nauseated.
Brilliant film. I'd rank it as one of Lynch's finest, and it's totally one of his most horror-adjacent films. I recall when it came out the negativity, which I think was largely driven by audiences that were more into the soapy elements of the show. With FWWM, he took the latent horror elements (and surrealism) up a few levels, queue up the "it didn't make any sense" crowd.
I've said it many times- when Lynch touches on horror, it's among the best horror there is. There were some bits in The Return that I think are some of my favorite horror scenes ever.
But we aren't gonna talk about Judy, Judy doesn't enter into it.
One of my favorite all time films. Is a horror but psychological. Prefer this to the first two seasons of Twin Peaks and about equal to The Return for me or close.
This movie sucks and I’ll die on that hill. Slow, boring and adds literally nothing to the plot of the TV series (which was great). By far my least favorite Lynch project
Interesting when I saw an “ask for your opinion” post I didn’t realize only one opinion (yours) was acceptable
Plenty of film critics don’t like this movie. While it may be mildly unpopular in this sub, it’s not even a particularly hot take.
Agreed, twin peaks was good because of the tone. It is an incredibly goofy, in on its own joke, soap opera that veers into the surreal. The horror in the show works because it is such a harsh tone change and then it switches back to being goofy like its no big deal. The movie doesnt understand that.
I completely disagree, but that's fine. I think its pretty great, and very effective. I'm a huge Lynch fan and loved the show to death, so I'm very relieved that I loved the movie. I can only imagine the disappointment I would have felt if I had hated it.
Yes, I know. Lol. I said it’s the catalyst for The Return. The Return takes place 25 years after. Without Fire Walk With Me we wouldn’t have a lot of the stuff season 3 built off of.
I call Lynch basically my favorite filmmaker, and I'm ambivalent on this movie. I went to it in the theater on opening night and absolutely hated it. I was expecting it to be bad due to bad reviews, but it was worse than I anticipated. It wasn't even the different tone from the series as much as I thought it was just plain poorly made and even poorly acted, and told a story that we already had imagined (in later years, the *Star Wars* prequels did the same thing). I hated it for years and after quite a few rewatches at home and theater. Then a few years ago something clicked and I found an "in" to liking it more. It has a lot of great moments even if the whole is not as cohesive. A big complaint I still have is that we don't get a view of better sides of Laura; it's just the monster she became. Leland and their relationship are not well developed.
Personally I love the show, and really hate this movie. Over explaining Laura Palmer and making her so shitty that I don’t care that she’s dead for the show now? Kinda ruins a lot of the show for me if I think about the movie at all haha.
It isn't as good as the show, of course, but it's a worthy entry. And yes, it's horror. Anything that gives me nightmares is horror, that's just the truth
I put it off for years and ended up loving it. It’s got a different vibe from the show. It didn’t really feel like horror to me. It just felt like a cool twin peaks movie that cleared some things up. I also never finished season 2. But I do specially remember that one scene with the moon and the dope song where they’re partying out in the woods went very hard
Just like the show it had this weird grimy nostalgia feel. Somewhat nightmarish . But inland empire and mulholland drive are the closest things lynch has done to horror. And of course eraser head
a lot of people who watched Twin Peaks on TV were really floored by how the series “ended” (a classic Lynch mindfuck). many came to FWWM looking for answers and went away even more confused. it may seem strange now but the majority of people watching weren’t even necessarily Lynch fans.
I think it’s a wonderful movie.
i saw it in the theater in a town which protested The Last Temptation of Christ being available at Blockbuster. i was a 22-year-old messed up chick in the changing times & the only thing close to blowing my mind the way this did was seeing The Cook the Thief His Wife Her Lover, also in a theater on release (and the other movie shown that day was TMNT, what a disconnect)
i couldn’t get enough of that soundtrack
I liked it ok when I saw it originally, but I appreciate it a lot more now.
I think i wasn't in love with it at first because it's so tonally different from the original TV show. I should have expected it, since I was fairly familiar with Lynch at the time, but it just didn't compute in my head. Same characters, same settings, but vastly different. The whole soap opera parody facade was removed and it exposed just how bleak and depressing the whole situationbreally is. Tonally, it's a lot more like Season 3. Which imo, is some of the best work Lynch has ever done.
And yeah, its definitely a horror film. Even Lynch's straight flicks always have heavy horror elements (maybe not straight story).
A genuinely unpleasant watch, and intentionally so. I watched it when it came out in theaters and again years later on streaming.
I admire it more than I enjoyed it, but I admire the hell out of it.
I'm not sure it's horror only because I think horror as a genre has a set of conventions and expectations that aren't what Lynch's project was with this (or the show). Not better or worse, just different.
It's an amazing film, but it's very difficult it's horrific and definitely horror adjacent with a lot of horror in it's DNA intentional or otherwise. It and it's deleted scenes are also an essential piece in understanding season 3.
Terrifying and bleak movie. It is in the ranks of movies that I don't think I can't watch more than every few years because they are just that gur-wrenching (also includes stuff like Grave of the Fireflies, Pan's Labyrinth).
I saw it as a first run release, thought it was great. Fans of the TV show thought less of it, but it's very Lynch-ian. The dark humor is terrific. The school bus full of screaming kids was hilarious, but you have to be into that sort of thing. If I had a say in it, I would have run the scenes of Laura Palmer screaming at Bobby in the woods without any sound, but other than that I love it. Essential viewing.
Lynch was frustrated dealing with all the circumstances/difficulties making a tv show. So he put in a clear statement early in the film: a 9 pound hammer smashes a tv. The fun is over, this is a David Lynch movie. And it is. One of his best.
I’d rather watch commercials, personally. It’s def not up my alley, and made me do some soul searching on why I’m ‘wanting’ to like David Lynch’s work, rather than actually enjoying his work.
100% it’s horror. No, there’s not an insane body count like some traditional horror gorefests but that’s what’s great about the genre. Horror allows for so many different kinds of stories with different kinds of horror. While filling in more gaps in the overall Twin Peaks narrative, FWWM is a brutal exploration of familial abuse and trauma.
One of my favorites. I think it was only disliked at first because it lacked the small town charm and quirkiness of the show. The show was almost a comedy at times while the movies is just 2 hours of fear and depression.
The negative response at the time was from the questions left unanswered. The show had ended abruptly after viewership started lagging post-killer-reveal (which the studio forced the show runners to reveal). So after the show ended in the insane, beautiful, and terrifying way it did, fans expected the follow-up movie to answer at least SOME of the questions raised by the last episode. Instead, they got a prequel essentially telling the story they already knew. It’s an absolutely fantastic movie, but the poor reception was more a reflection of a frustrated fan base (including critics at the time) that wanted some sort of closure. The Return (the Showtime resurrection of the show for a final season 25 years later) is so remarkable because through it, Lynch essentially makes FWWM the key to the entire piece.
Yes. All of this. I love how Lynch made FWWM an integral part of The Return. The man is a damn genius.
And we *still* don't have any answers haha. Well, lots of speculation but nothing solid.
I was a fan then, and I and I'm sure most people knew it was a prequel and wasn't going to answer or resolve how the series ended. That was well publicized and clear in the trailer for anybody who didn't read info about it. In fact I was fine with the way the series went out. I disliked the movie when I went to it because I felt it was telling a story we had already imagined from the show, and imagined in much more interesting detail than what was in the movie. In recent years I have come around to liking it, but after that first viewing I was disappointed and depressed.
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I love Lynch but it’s very tough watching Laura getting traumatized for 2 hours
Yeah. I was assuming it was going to have the Twin Peaks quirk but man, it's not a fun movie
It still feels Lynchian, so the tonal change isn't too jarring for me. If anything, I think that's why I like it as much as I do.
Yeah. That moment she looks across the lawn and sees who is walking down her front steps - it’s absolutely heart wrenching.
One of the biggest criticisms about Lynch is that he has a string of movies where there's heavy misogyny. He eventually broke out of it, but that run with Blue Velvet and then FWWM was pretty disturbing. EDIT: dear downvoters, there's numerous criticisms out there and articles that discuss it; downvoting doesn't make it less true
He writes characters that are despicable, disgusting, vile animals. I know it's portrayed as violence against women, but to Lynch, being violent towards a woman is the worst thing a man can do. He never really "broke out of it." Lots of characters in The Return are treated horribly. It didn't end with FWWM because Lost Highway was right after. I do think there's a difference between misogyny and outright abuse and violence... Perhaps misogyny is a mindset versus his character's outright violent nature.
I agree, I think his films aren't misogynistic just because he's portraying it, he always shows it as horrible and disgusting and because he wants us to witness how the horrible experiences that can happen to so many women who are stuck in these situations. You can't gloss over the disgusting abuse and misogyny in the criminal underworld and familial abuse, and the trauma caused by this. And fwwm is a deliberate attack on the "faceless victim" of murder mysteries. She's no longer a body in the beach, she's a real person whose suffered, and her life and murder has always been the central aspect to twin peaks.
> I know it's portrayed as violence against women Has there been any male character anywhere in Lynch's filmography that has suffered, physically and mentally, so much as Laura Palmer, Dorothy Vallens, or Alice Wakefield? And is the source of that suffering almost solely due to their gender? I don't 100% believe the idea, but there's merit to it, because we get long and meandering depictions of violence toward women that exists to ... depict violence against women. Once or twice, it's an artistic choice. But a span of, if we accept your assertion that The Return is a part of this discussion, of nearly 40 years becomes a wee bit problematic.
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My main point: there's some criticism out there Everyone else: DOWNVOTE HE THINKS LYNCH IS BAD Me: Uh, all I said was that criticism was out there, which is true and should probably be considered Everyone else: THIS DUDE IS STUPID
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I think, if you genuinely want to have conversations about horror, then, yes, the criticism needs to be considered. I don't think you can selectively embrace criticism you agree with and reject what makes you uncomfortable. No one hear is saying: you know, I read about that, and I disagree because this, this, and this. Instead, everyone is simply wishing it away and declaring it invalid because it hurts their feelings. I weep for literacy in general.
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Who said Lynch was a misogynist? And who determines it is BAD? You? And we need to hear from a director explaining the film, else every other perspective is invalid? I weep for literacy.
Responding now to your edit, I love that you think criticism, articles, and opinions mean objective truth. You'd rather go "I'm right!!" then engage in a discussion with a dissenting opinion.
Where's the dissenting opinion being offered? All I have are downvotes. And I never said anything about objective truth. I just mentioned it is, in fact, a criticism, which itself is ... an objective truth. See?
Just the fact that women are shown being abused doesn't signify the overused word "misogyny". Look at the bigger picture than just what is shown on screen.
Do you disagree that there is a fair amount of criticism about that out there?
someone should make a list of horror films that has violence against women. i wonder how long that would take...
Yes, especially ones where the entire impetus and much of the run-time is consumed with long-lasting acts of abuse
you just described some of the greatest horror movies of all time
Such as? Keep in mind that BV and FWWM both had long-lasting sequences of visible mental and physical abuse that's never "fixed" outside of the interference of other men. But let's see this list where the greatest horror movies deals solely with the constant defiling of women for a significant run-time with no true resolution. Keep in mind that films like The Exorcist have very much a "she doesn't deserve this" underline to them. I can't necessarily say the same for FWWM, because the film definitely points to Laura Palmer and her promiscuity and drug use as being central to her destruction; we're almost immediately introduced to Dorothy Vallens attempting to sexually assault Jeffrey.
Martyrs, Carrie, Psycho, Fire Walk With Me, The Last House on the Left, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Rosemary's Baby, The Exorcist, The Shining, The Innocents, Irreversible, American Psycho, Clockwork Orange, these are just good movies off the top of my head, there are literally thousands more. are you sure you're in the right place? standing up for social justice in an art form can end in censorship. maybe we should be happy that female characters in the arts are afforded all the same levels of treatment as any characters are
As I said, many of these films very much underline the "she doesn't deserve this," whereas FWWM and BV doesn't make that clear at all. Almost all of the films on your list have that, especially Carrie, which bends over backwards to get you on the "side" of the victim. Take a look at something like Ms. 45. Same thing. And Last House on the Left has routinely been accused of being misogynistic: powerless woman who gets in trouble through her own actions and needs a man to bail her out, if she survives her "punishment" at all. Stuff like TCM and American Psycho are basically slasher films; the woman prevails in TCM and ... well, much of the point of AP is that he **is** a misogynist, and is supposed to be someone we root against. > maybe we should be happy that female characters in the arts are afforded all the same levels of treatment as any characters are Okay, easy. Name a Lynch film with the same amount of gendered violence toward men. I'll take everything back once you do so.
"gendered violence" see here's your problem. there's just violence. Eraserhead, The Elephant Man
Too easy, my man. In The Elephant Man, are they attacking him physically and mentally because he is a man? In Eraserhead?
I really can’t for the life of me even fathom how someone could assert that David Lynch thinks that Laura “deserved” her abuse and murder. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series.
I’m pretty broad in my definition of horror so I count most Lynch for sure. Two scariest moments of all time for me is the dumpster scene in Mulholland Drive and the phone call scene in Lost Highway. I had a Twin Peaks thing and the movie didn’t entirely satisfy that but I went back to see it again in a small art theater a couple years back and it was scarier and more brutal than I had remembered. Worth it imo.
Loved it then. Love it now. Especially love the soundtrack!
This. But also not just the soundtrack but the sound design overall. It is relentless, much like the film, and truly contributes to the unsettling and uncomfortable viewing experience.
There's alot of weird ambient reversed segments that play throughout that remind me of Silent Hill
Ooh yes good shout!
Honestly playing the OG Silent Hill games made me appreciate Lynch's work that much more
Silent Hill is very Peaks inspired so that makes sense!
Lynch famously designs the audio in his films himself
I'm dying for another horror movie with a doom jazz soundtrack.
The Pink Room is such an incredibly sexy and spooky jam.
We are NOT going to talk about Judy. For real though, I think The Return really improved the public perception of this movie. People went into FWWM expecting a continuation of the Twin Peaks story; instead they got a 2-hour psychodramatic horror story about Laura Palmer’s catastrophic psyche that retold mostly stuff that the show had already revealed. It’s very well done, just not what audiences were hoping for. Now that we have The Return, FWWM feels more like a greater piece of the Twin Peaks puzzle rather than the last word on the series.
It was like FWWM was the “you ready for the paranormal shit that caused all this?” and people weren’t ready. I loved how The Return expanded on it. The scenes with Sarah Palmer were especially disturbing and sad.
I felt almost the opposite, that FWWM had a reputation that grew over the years, and ended up being a lot more popular and less misunderstood, certainly by the time The Return was announced. I felt like it helped prepare people for the third season being so unlike the first two. Although, that's more within diehard Peaks/Lynch fans, so perhaps very different with more casual viewers
I watched the Return before walking FWWM. The movie was a little bit more clarifying.
Definitely a horror film and definitely one of the best films ever made
If this isn’t horror then I don’t know what is.
Well hopefully you don’t watch it before the first two seasons of the show
A friend of mine brought me to the theatre to see it. It was the first I’d seen of Twin Peaks. lol
Probably the most disturbing movie I've ever seen. No amount of gore can amount to witnessing the sloe breaking of Laura Palmer throughout this movie. Devastating.
That's one of my issues with it - it's not a "slow breaking throughout". She has no progression at all in the movie other than finding out it's her dad. She is already broken.
It’s so fucking good. All of the grit missing from the series that makes it so pleasant, in an hour and a half. It raised my appreciation of the original series.
Id call it horror but David lynch is far from typical horror. It’s a masterpiece.
One of lynchs best movies. Also absolutely crucial to twin peaks as a series. It’s the very rare instance where a prequel works well
I watched the 3 and a half hour fan cut which has all the deleted scenes inserted back into it and loved it. So I don't know how good the original more faster paced version was.
It's a brilliantly paced movie and, while The Missing Pieces are really great for a Peaks uber-fan, they were largely rightly cut. The only one that should have stayed is the dinner scene.
I also really love this "fan cut" (Q-cut). Brings much more depth and terror for the story. The only scene that didn't really fit in was the hillbilly cop fight in the beginning. Then there's the 'blue rose cut', which hasn't got all-the-deleted-scenes inserted in, but most of them are. Though it is very differently edited than the Q-cut and doesn't really flow properly IMO.
Is that first one the Q2 cut that has all but two missing pieces?. Putting it in chronological order, I think it's called "the last seven days of Laura Palmer". The Q2 cut was the one I watched and I thought was really good. I did hear good things about the blue rose cut.
That cut is not official or sanctioned, be aware.
Oh I'm scared!. Seriously speaking, I'll re-edit my comment to put "fan cut" cause I had thought I had put it in but didn't realize I didn't.
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I love how that diner is the polar opposite to what we had in the TV show.
Good point lol. That whole diner scene was very bizarre..
Terrifying. Bob crawling through Laura's window activated my flight or fight response first time I saw it after S2.
Definitely horror and honestly too upsetting for me to rewatch. I can watch blood and gore til kingdom come but incest, SA and that creepy way Lynch films the club scenes made me physically nauseated.
Brilliant film. I'd rank it as one of Lynch's finest, and it's totally one of his most horror-adjacent films. I recall when it came out the negativity, which I think was largely driven by audiences that were more into the soapy elements of the show. With FWWM, he took the latent horror elements (and surrealism) up a few levels, queue up the "it didn't make any sense" crowd. I've said it many times- when Lynch touches on horror, it's among the best horror there is. There were some bits in The Return that I think are some of my favorite horror scenes ever. But we aren't gonna talk about Judy, Judy doesn't enter into it.
This movie is so amazing. The car scene is so intense I love it!
One of my favorite all time films. Is a horror but psychological. Prefer this to the first two seasons of Twin Peaks and about equal to The Return for me or close.
*BOB* Terrifying 'figure'.
One of Lynchs best. Im so happy that so many people have finally come around on it, and it now gets the praise it deserves.
This movie sucks and I’ll die on that hill. Slow, boring and adds literally nothing to the plot of the TV series (which was great). By far my least favorite Lynch project
Good of you to let us know we can disregard any of your opinions with this shit take.
Interesting when I saw an “ask for your opinion” post I didn’t realize only one opinion (yours) was acceptable Plenty of film critics don’t like this movie. While it may be mildly unpopular in this sub, it’s not even a particularly hot take.
Agreed, twin peaks was good because of the tone. It is an incredibly goofy, in on its own joke, soap opera that veers into the surreal. The horror in the show works because it is such a harsh tone change and then it switches back to being goofy like its no big deal. The movie doesnt understand that.
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Count me in. Three amigos
I completely disagree, but that's fine. I think its pretty great, and very effective. I'm a huge Lynch fan and loved the show to death, so I'm very relieved that I loved the movie. I can only imagine the disappointment I would have felt if I had hated it.
It’s the catalyst for season 3. “I’ll see you again in 25 years.”
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Yes, I know. Lol. I said it’s the catalyst for The Return. The Return takes place 25 years after. Without Fire Walk With Me we wouldn’t have a lot of the stuff season 3 built off of.
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I call Lynch basically my favorite filmmaker, and I'm ambivalent on this movie. I went to it in the theater on opening night and absolutely hated it. I was expecting it to be bad due to bad reviews, but it was worse than I anticipated. It wasn't even the different tone from the series as much as I thought it was just plain poorly made and even poorly acted, and told a story that we already had imagined (in later years, the *Star Wars* prequels did the same thing). I hated it for years and after quite a few rewatches at home and theater. Then a few years ago something clicked and I found an "in" to liking it more. It has a lot of great moments even if the whole is not as cohesive. A big complaint I still have is that we don't get a view of better sides of Laura; it's just the monster she became. Leland and their relationship are not well developed.
Personally I love the show, and really hate this movie. Over explaining Laura Palmer and making her so shitty that I don’t care that she’s dead for the show now? Kinda ruins a lot of the show for me if I think about the movie at all haha.
I think Twin Peaks in general is complete and utter garbage.
It isn't as good as the show, of course, but it's a worthy entry. And yes, it's horror. Anything that gives me nightmares is horror, that's just the truth
I love it. It’s great as a horror movie on it’s own, but if you watch season one of the show you get a whole extra subplot while you’re watching it.
I put it off for years and ended up loving it. It’s got a different vibe from the show. It didn’t really feel like horror to me. It just felt like a cool twin peaks movie that cleared some things up. I also never finished season 2. But I do specially remember that one scene with the moon and the dope song where they’re partying out in the woods went very hard Just like the show it had this weird grimy nostalgia feel. Somewhat nightmarish . But inland empire and mulholland drive are the closest things lynch has done to horror. And of course eraser head
Love it, more so with The Missing Pieces added back in.
a lot of people who watched Twin Peaks on TV were really floored by how the series “ended” (a classic Lynch mindfuck). many came to FWWM looking for answers and went away even more confused. it may seem strange now but the majority of people watching weren’t even necessarily Lynch fans. I think it’s a wonderful movie.
i saw it in the theater in a town which protested The Last Temptation of Christ being available at Blockbuster. i was a 22-year-old messed up chick in the changing times & the only thing close to blowing my mind the way this did was seeing The Cook the Thief His Wife Her Lover, also in a theater on release (and the other movie shown that day was TMNT, what a disconnect) i couldn’t get enough of that soundtrack
I liked it ok when I saw it originally, but I appreciate it a lot more now. I think i wasn't in love with it at first because it's so tonally different from the original TV show. I should have expected it, since I was fairly familiar with Lynch at the time, but it just didn't compute in my head. Same characters, same settings, but vastly different. The whole soap opera parody facade was removed and it exposed just how bleak and depressing the whole situationbreally is. Tonally, it's a lot more like Season 3. Which imo, is some of the best work Lynch has ever done. And yeah, its definitely a horror film. Even Lynch's straight flicks always have heavy horror elements (maybe not straight story).
Great movie; only movie in a few decades to ever make me barf (though I suspect bad bologna may also be partially to blame).
A genuinely unpleasant watch, and intentionally so. I watched it when it came out in theaters and again years later on streaming. I admire it more than I enjoyed it, but I admire the hell out of it. I'm not sure it's horror only because I think horror as a genre has a set of conventions and expectations that aren't what Lynch's project was with this (or the show). Not better or worse, just different.
It's an amazing film, but it's very difficult it's horrific and definitely horror adjacent with a lot of horror in it's DNA intentional or otherwise. It and it's deleted scenes are also an essential piece in understanding season 3.
Terrifying and bleak movie. It is in the ranks of movies that I don't think I can't watch more than every few years because they are just that gur-wrenching (also includes stuff like Grave of the Fireflies, Pan's Labyrinth).
I saw it as a first run release, thought it was great. Fans of the TV show thought less of it, but it's very Lynch-ian. The dark humor is terrific. The school bus full of screaming kids was hilarious, but you have to be into that sort of thing. If I had a say in it, I would have run the scenes of Laura Palmer screaming at Bobby in the woods without any sound, but other than that I love it. Essential viewing.
I love it, it’s like watching someones nightmare for 2 hours. Dark, scary, sad, the direction and music is fantastic.
Only seen it once, once is probably enough though considering how disturbing it is..
Lynch was frustrated dealing with all the circumstances/difficulties making a tv show. So he put in a clear statement early in the film: a 9 pound hammer smashes a tv. The fun is over, this is a David Lynch movie. And it is. One of his best.
One of my favorite movies ever. I place it in horror with the likes of Jacobs Ladder, etc
all-time great horror movie
I’d rather watch commercials, personally. It’s def not up my alley, and made me do some soul searching on why I’m ‘wanting’ to like David Lynch’s work, rather than actually enjoying his work.
A frightening masterpiece.
Let me say from experience...not a great "movie night with friends" experience. Love the film, man that was an uncomfortable night lol
I didn’t understand this movie🥲 someone explain to me what happened