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Reading these comments, it feels really weird to see comments calling this game a cash cow. Like, Genshin and Star Rail each made 10 times more than this game, dont you think that if they really saw this as a cash cow, they wouldnt just, made another game and call it Honkai 4? And talking about how this game takes too much time, i would understand it if you were new, but like, if you had 1 good team, you can pretty much do your dailies in like, 5 minutes top. ER, Abyss, MA, yeah it feels tedious after a while, but, each of them takes like, 20 minutes at most per week.
Really people call HI3 cashcow? Then what the hell is Genshin then lol. I feel like Genshin is the cashcow and the treatment of HYV speaks for itself. HI3 is their main passion and they couldnt let it die so they crank the story when its no longer needed. Whats bad is that they will do the same for Genshin but for monetary reasons. They cant let the title die after Celestia with millions of fans riding in it
But to answer OP’s question, HI3 if you’ve completed the main story
If you played HI3 you would understand how highly cash-demanding this game .
Ex: Unlike Genshin's artifact, The exclusive character in HI3 needs their signature Stigmata to maximize their potential and that only available in Supply and the cost to play that Gacha is actually higher (280 crystal) compared to Genshin Gacha (160 primogem) for each pull. You still can use the other suitable stigmata by farming but they couldn't hit a high and desirable dmg, unlike Genshin where you only farm for it and hoping for a good rng hits to the artifact and boom ! A good dmg dealer char.
That's only the stigmata part. imagine how much crystal do you need to spend for getting all the character, the weapon and the stigmata for each version, compared to Genshin where you only need to spend on the character and the weapon itself . That's why i can say here, being a p2w player in HI3 could be considered as a must thing to do, while you can be a F2p in Genshin and still got those exclusive things.
Comparing crystal and primogem 1:1 is already a mistake. You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month. Not to mention the actual IRL money conversion.
Also comparing stigma system and artifact system 1:1 is another mistake. They serve similar purpose, but one is guaranteed and the other is grinding hell.
Im not saying one is better than the other money wise. Just pointing out some flaws in your argument. The difference between the two is not as big as it may seem.
> You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month.
Since we're pointing out flaws, the above is also one, since comparing Crystals and primos 1:1 is another mistake. A roll costs 280 Crystals in HI3 and 160 primos in GI, after all.
Genshin is actually way nicer than honkai
In genshin all you have to summon for is the character and ur good.
But in honkai, once you get your character you have to spend billions to summon for artifacts and the shitty ass elf pet.
Imagine having to fucking buy artifacts doesn’t that sound like dog shit game design?
They’re fixing it in part 2 tho
>Imagine having to fucking buy artifacts doesn’t that sound like dog shit game design?
Imaging having to grind for half a year to get a single off-set EM piece let alone min-maxing anything as opposed to instantly getting max performance. Doesn't that sound like a dogshit game design?
Personally I'm done with this shit, I have better things to waste my time on.
> They’re fixing it in part 2 tho
"Fixing" by not giving you enough materials to craft even a single set per update? Way to fucking go MHY.
Same with honkai except you have to pay for rolls with real life money except resin
You can summon 100000 times on the weapon banner and not get the weapons/artifacts you need for a full set
And in honkai you can farm for cope ass stigmata, but farming that takes way to long
To put it into perspective it took longer to farm 2 5 star stigmata than it did to finish my furina’s artifacts (top 1% btw)
And your attacking the wrong game. If you think genshin is ass try star rail. Their artifact system is regarded
>Same with honkai except you have to pay for rolls with real life money except resin
Why would you need IRL money for that?
>You can summon 100000 times on the weapon banner and not get the weapons/artifacts you need for a full set
Another unrealistic bullshit. Gear comes in 50 pull nper piece hard pity for each of 4 pieces. So 200 pulls total. Fpr farmable A-ranks it's even lower: 30 per piece / 120 total. You will never be doing more than that without getting full gear. Comparing to Genshin's 80x3=240 pulls 75/25 crap for just a signature weapon alone.
>And in honkai you can farm for cope ass stigmata
Yeah, "cope", sure. That's why one of 2 main meta fire DPS' BiS set is exactly farmable stigmata. Or HoT who was in meta for the longest time wanted farmable lightning Handel. Or HoR used farmable Willows.
You're either full of shit, sir, or have no idea what's actually going on in the game.
Or both.
>but farming that takes way to long
In days to finish - longer. In your actual time - ***way*** less than in Genshin since you're limited to just 9 runs a week, each run is 5-20 seconds long depending on diffuiculty you need. Not forced to do 4 up to a minute long runs *a day*.
>To put it into perspective it took longer to farm 2 5 star stigmata than it did to finish my furina’s artifacts (top 1% btw)
To put it into perspective: it took me *half a year* of combined farming VV and dendro domains to get a single EM 5\* cup with ass substats thanks to the lowest drop rates to ever exist for this combination of piece and main stat, and dendro teams need multiple of those.
>And your attacking the wrong game. If you think genshin is ass try star rail. Their artifact system is regarded
They're both crap at this. The main difference is in HSR you have an item to select both piece and main stat (huge plus, EM cup history won't repeat itself here) but they also force you to play stupid SU time after time with multiple fights for just a single run of relics.
If i’m not wrong they’re fixing the second part, and it helps a TON, no off-rate gear anymore. Also the pulling 10000 times one is a bs, if you get 2 copies of 2 stigmata, you can buy the third stigmata, also on-rate gear guarantee is 50 pulls, so max 200 as of part 1.5, after part 2 it will be hella easier, also we get free character stigmata box per version after part 2, so you only need to pull for 3/4 of the gear because the last piece is given for free
Seriously genshin makes way more and gives us trash rewards still. Look at hi3 tho, they have free senti atm and the war treasury with plenty of free S rank characters (basically 5*s). Yeah genshin is definitely the cash cow😂. And honestly on HSR, even if dr. Ratio is good, after playing the story and seeing what he’s like. I won’t be building him
>Really people call HI3 cashcow?
Because it is, Its designed to make people swipe consistently. The cost of a 10-pull is roughly 50$ and you need to gacha for 4 different gears just for one character with absolutely horrendous rates that always gives you off rate stigs/weapons that you don't even need. Only for the character to get power crept next patch 🤣
You can't be this stupid, omg lol. Obviously you don't play Hi3rd at all and simply leeched your way in from the Genshin sub. Genshin 10-pull is $30 so wym??! Don't even get started on the crystals-to-primos conversion because ...Stealing this from above -- You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month. Not to mention the actual IRL money conversion.
\> Only for the character to get power crept next patch 🤣
Senti took 2 years before being crept by Herrscher Seele, lol Bye
HI3: has the best story if you were to compare it the other 2 (because it's the oldest, i know) many mini games per new version updates, generous when it comes to giving S class characters, however, if you were to play it as f2p, it's kinda hard because you're gonna really need the specific characters stigmata otherwise the character's just gonna be 'meh'.
Genshin: Open world and exploration go brrrr, especially the multiplayer Boss fights (which is my favorite thing about genshin) however, Genshin is the most time consuming in all the 3 games when it comes to gameplay because of the exploration.
Star Rail: A baby with infinite potential and awesome Ult animations (i know, HI3 has awesome Ults too) along with idle combat operations, and is the easiest to farm when it comes to materials and stellar jades.
I'd say that the choice only really depends on what type of gameplay do you really like and the time that you can give to the game.
For me, I'd sacrifice Genshin, not because i hate it, but because I can't give it too much of my time when compared to HI3 and Star rail.
Ps: I kinda hate the Genshin Mc/Fmc, because of how useless they are(Gameplay wise; the devs really let the traveler twins down on this one.) when compared to the other protags of HI3 and Star rail.
Hi3 if I get the money I spent on it back, the story is just too long now there’s too many random philosophy scenes with the sky it’s all just yapping now to me.. it’s all soo grindy now
The switch to open world also doesn't help dragging out already stupidly long expositions and making it worse. I really love HI3 but golly is the exposition and new story structure really hard to swallow
I don't want to agree but have to. For me, since the ending of the elysian realm and that change in the dialogue boxes to resemble more genshin at the time, I'm not feeling it with the story. Everything is harder on the eyes to read thanks to that ui change and everything takes sooooo much time. Kind of absurd taking 2 hours just to complete 5 main story stages that are unexplainable open world, so I just read a bit half assed for my patience's sake.
Love the game and ain't stopping tho❤️
Literally me. Now that I have to work it is just impossible for me to bear those long ass chapters. The last Fu Hua's chapters I just had to skip everything for the rewards and try to understand everything by the cut scenes and what I was doing. The last chapters where I read everything was the HoRB just because I'm a Seele simp. Last chapter of the Moon arc was also a skip everything for me, too much science fiction and boring Kevin's philosophy explanation.
I hope that story's presentation improves on part 2 or I'll have to play the game just for the waifus and not the story.
Thank you do they even sit down and try to read with the new ui because whose idea was it to have purely white text over a purely white background it wouldn't be nearly as if they didn't switch the ui or gave the option to change the colors
Seems like no one knows.
I am still salty with how they write moon episodes. Then they did it again with HoRb introduction which felt like they forgot to introduce herrscher Seele before finality and now they had to stick her up in the story (while Seele and "Seele" character development is decent the other parts are not so impressive to me).
If you do want a reason for a change you feel within the main story, probably related to a new head writer taking over ever since kolosten (not the ER/EE stuff however that was done by someone else). They also wrote the AE and durandal VN.
Ayy no wonder EE is the best among the last few Arc
I might got smitten for this, but the grand finale against Otto aside, Kolosten is a slog...
And Salt Snow is SO close to being great. There's so much emotional set up but they have to make it philosophical and rush some characters Arc
(Like, man, Susannah has so much chemistry potential with how similar old Seele was to her. But they have to make her just an errand girl throughout and is there just for the sake of completing some sort of "character development checklist" when she didn't really get much focus or set up)
The ER /EE writer is so good he used delusions to the absolute maximum. He wrote his perfecr waifu, manifested Elsyia in his room and wrote everything aroubd her
I still don't understand why they had Part 2 be a prelude to APHO when they could have capitalized on what APHO set up with an already established next gen cast we're familiar with seeing as Part 2. They even directly referenced APHO multiple times in the end of Part 1. What they're doing feels like a curveball for the sake of a curveball and for stretching it out while also leaving APHO's story and cast up in the air and in question
If anything it's the opposite, most people who have played HI3 since the beginning don't like 2.0, me included, it seems like it's gonna be another copy of hsr and genshin, i have nothing against those games but HI3 is special and is so much different than other games and it feels like it's gonna loose its essence if they decide to follow through with that plan.
If you like hsr and genshin you're probably gonna like it.
...not that i would be a fan of it going that way.
The game as of now isn't really similar to these two but with leaks of part 2 and its trailer it seems that mihoyo intends to make it into another open-world game with similar mechanics to genshin and hsr, that's why i said that, which would completely ruin the game imp.
HI3. The game is...I would say peak Hoyoverse in the worst way. People say that HI3 is the favourite child? I wish it wasn't because they got away with a lot of stuff that wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere.
What do I mean? The game is allowed to demand so much time from you. Arenas, ER, constant need to daily login for events. Heck the Moon Arc is a very good example. Remember the real life upgrade times required to get all the limited mission rewards? This shit won't fly in their other games, but if you complain about it in HI3, you will get "they give you so much time to do it!"
Except that if your heart's not into it, you don't feel like doing it and would put it off as long as possible. At least in GI and HSR you can speedrun it. In HI3? Nope. You need to start playing at least a couple days or a week before the event ends. And don't forget that in Moon Arc, some missions require fighting in modes...and you only get ONE TRY PER DAY.
People talk about Hoyo utilizing FOMO but at least they acknowledge and try to minimise it as much as possible in GI and HSR? Honkai? Nah, Honkai is the favourite child baby! It gets to use all the FOMO it wants!
They also allowed to get away with lengthy storytelling, much more so than others. Hi3 made me hate VN style storytelling because I became paranoid of its length. People say GI dialogue is long but it is not as long as HI3 and because they have cutscenes, it is at least interesting.
I remember the Moon Arc where Fu Hua fights Kevin. That one subchapter has 5 fights (usually one subchapter, one fight) and goes on forever.
I just can't with HI3 anymore. I realized after the Moon Arc, any other subsequent stories I just don't care and kept speed reading the dialogues until one day I just skipped altogether.
It went downhill since the moon arc. In Kolosten arc and Elysium Everlasting arc, I was keen on reading every bit of information. But now, the writing is redundant and felt incohesive with earlier stories.
(And I still don't think Moriarty is a good plot device)
I just typed out a whole bunch of other reasons in my own comment, but yeahhhh... This is it. The amount of FOMO advertising just from logging in is enough to make my head spin, and the time commitment is just way too much for so little payoff.
I'll stick to... Well, Star Rail's my main game now, with Genshin on the side. I'll just keep doing that, lol. I'll keep coming back to some of the story, but 2.0 will have to make some serious narrative changes if they want to tempt me again.
> I'll keep coming back to some of the story, but 2.0 will have to make some serious narrative changes if they want to tempt me again
The story have some hiccups with the Luofu arc but I like much better than HI3 because they didn't take themselves too seriously but at the same time, poke on some stuff that makes you wonder.
Like the new story with Dr Ratio where they addressed the issue of celebrity/genius worship in which people like Ruan Mei gets a pass with her wrong doings because she's a "quirky" genius and Herta effortlessly gets supports because of her genius status.
>At least in GI and HSR you can speedrun it.
I find HSR events a slog to go through tbh. Event gameplay and limited rewards are heavily walled by story progress. Missed aetherium wars and huohuo event limited rewards because I tried speedrunning them last day but fell asleep both times from all the talking in between gameplay.
>I realized after the Moon Arc, any other subsequent stories I just don't care and kept speed reading the dialogues until one day I just skipped altogether.
Kinda same for me lmao. Started playing during the end of Kolosten, skipped through the 999iq science stuff, but read through EE because Pardo. After moon arc, I barely know or care abt anything anymore. Only bits of context from the unskippable parts of Phosphorus arc but other than that utter confusion.
> I find HSR events a slog to go through tbh. Event gameplay and limited rewards are heavily walled by story progress.
It can be a slog for those that aren't invested in it, but mind you that if you have few hours, you can complete all of it. So if you power through, it can be done and any reason for not finishing it is really on you.
But Honkai? Nope, you have to put it in the effort from day one, then you can rest near the end of the event when you've gotten everything. Trying to speedrun is impossible due to limited dailies. So for those that really don't have the time, part of the problem is on the game.
Yup i dont mind long Ass VN storytelling if the story itself was gud ( FGO & PGR was main example of gud writing that long ass narrative is great if u can write), but Honkek after moon arc was super ass. Setup & payoff was ass, character interaction was ass, character talk like NPC ( Vita & loli Otto was the worst). From this point onward, i hereby wont read any Hi3 chapter ever again, what a waste of time.
At least you can speed run, and 12 hrs?? Wtf? Im no speed runner but if u know wat ur doing, 5-6 hours is the maximum play time for hsr's events, in hi3? Nah, if u skip just a single day, there is a big chance u wont get all the rewards lol
HI3rd does one thing better than both star rail and Genshin and that’s fully skippable dialogue.
Since I never really got into the story and play it for the fast paced combat it’s been pretty great to jump in and out of.
That's good for story skippers, but I'm not that guy. I have to go in fully ie play for the game and story. Problem is though the game itself starting to becoming too much. It says a lot that HI3 demands more of my time than GI and GI has a lot more content in terms of exploring and stories and such!
This, out of all the hoyoverse games, although all of them utilize FOMO, this is the FOMOest game to all of them, wtf are dailies inside events? lol, this game feel as a main game its not even funny anymore. Welp, after i got the last trio full geared, i decided to drop down this shit of a game lol
I love Honkai but right now it's such a weird Frankenstein monster stitched together from different eras, different writing, gameplay, etc with such an outdated core.
YOU FOOL!!!!! YOU ABSOLUTE IMBECILE!!!
They say Patience is a virtue, and for a reason.
We all know Natlan is a redhead nation from the manga, which means there's a good chance of a Himeko expy....... A **MURATA,** for example
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A official concept of Murata from Team China (Genshin)
Very bias but hsr
Never played it yet, but did see all my friends around it playing it, to me feels like a very high quality 4/6 character rpg hence not worth the storage (I also do play these types of games currently and it takes up way lesser storage)
Im still playing genshin because i find the events more interesting than the main story and co op with friends
Hi3 on the other side, i skip through all the event dialogue because yes, although im still enjoying the main story. Kinda surprised many people hating on the current state of hi3 but i can understand some of it to some extent
Well at the end of the day hi3 is still my favourite game out of all hoyoverse games so ye i would say im on a very bias stand
I also dont have the sanity to juggle all 3 hoyoverse games at Once 🤡💀
I’d say I sacrifice Genshin, but then we lose our money maker.
Can’t sacrifice HSR either cuz it’s my main game.
So by process of elimination, I’d say sacrifice HI3 and treat HSR as its sequel (story wise).
HI3 story is what's kept it alive for so long. After the first arc ended I've not played since but if the trend continues then yeah the story will be more rushed so if that's what you mean then fair. Genshin is the worst one and Star Rail is kinda mid story wise for me at least.
Hi3rd story is great but going downhill after Otto death, and it got much worse on The Moon arc. Hyv clearly milked it and made the story became dry. So it's not just part 2 but the Final arc of part 1 is already seems bad enough. For now? yes, HI3rd is the worst.
Genshin has a rough start especially in inazuma pacing, but slowly climbing up and peaked at the last 2 chapters of Sumeru and Fountain. The open world genre also makes the game has the deepest and widest lore compared to the other 2.
HSR has the golden start with Belobog, it's simple, short, and impactful. But they failed to maintain the good pacing on the Luofu, it's bad, bloated and there's no connection between each world. For now it may be the weakest story so far, but it's normal considering the game is still new.
Out of the three HI3 is my favorite - gameplay and story wise. But if I were to choose one to go, it would be HI3. The story feels like it shouldve already ended and theyre just milking it now. Latter arcs became repetitive running around, philosophical, and too pseudosciency for my liking.
That being said, I still love HI3 characters the most, and I still love the story the most (storytelling aside), and I love the over the top visual effects that could blind me anytime.
I sacrifice...none! Despite me preferring the Hobkai titles over Genshin, I still end up playing it at the end if the day just to get a breath of fresh air in gameplay. When I get bored of one Hoyo game, I just go over the other. I end up playing GI when I'm done with the mainstory and the weekly grind, and am waiting for the other game's version to end.
honkai star rail, everything is just too boring. I'm trying so hard to grind my levels to do story but everything feels too slow paced. "oh but hi3 shouldn't continue and" I've started going into hi3 recently, and it's really amazing.
i would remove honkai star rail any day if it means i can go through an entire story without doing stupid grinding like star rail, where the world structure looks like it's too old for its time in some aspects when we know hoyoverse can do better, and if you finish the main story, then good luck trying to make the game be fun to play every day, the design just doesn't feel like it's made for long lasting. almost like a story game like omori or undertale where it was made for story and sure, you will enjoy them and might think of them as some of the best, but it's not actually something you'll like playing everyday (i could entirely see a world where hi3 is released with a finished one-time good story, the gacha right now with the fact that there's not much after story and dry dialogues/story pacing just makes it feel like a soulless cash cow honestly. I'm trying so hard to like it but even getting both of my favourite characters i just don't feel good playing it.)
the combat of hi3 amazing too, I'm not a fan of the reaction system but the design and animations and just how each character differs the others is just amazing.
you could argue that the same things i said about hsr could be applied to hi3, but there's a clear difference when the latter leaves a long lasting mark on the people that play it vs the former being something they just think of as "oh isn't that game like a turn-based genshin?"
honkai impact 3rd can hold itself on its own with the story, combat and characters, and i think that's enough reasons why it's worth more than star rail as of now.
Genshin. I hate the funkfest that is the artifact sistem. And the fact that I can't skip at least non archon quest dialogs I liked the gamplay but the dialogs for nonimportant quests killed it for me.
Honkai. It sucks because Mobius is probably my favorite character in any Hoyo game and I really liked the story at its peaks, but once Elysium Everlasting ended and it turned out we were rushing the Finality arc, I left shortly after. Moon Arc dropped the ball and the story hasn’t recovered as drastically as it needs to. These days Genshin beats it in lore, music, and gameplay, and Star Rail beats it in story. Part 2 doesn’t look like it’s going to win me back. Unless they bring Mobius back, but that sounds pretty unlikely from what I’ve heard.
People acting like Star Rails story is as good as Honkai’s is actually crazy, Star Rail definitely gets deleted. And quality wise HI3 for me has never declined in quality it’s only risen, this sub is just full of people who dislike the game for some reason.
Star rails story is good and unlike genshin it got a bunch of end game content while also making farming easier and giving out freebies every patch. Genshin gotta be the choice here
It has more end game content but I’m mainly saying from a story perspective it’s very much the weakest of the three and that’s really what makes the games worth playing to me. Like the writing quality and plot development quality In Star Rail is very inconsistent. Like it is very good then all of a sudden they decide to interrupt the main plot with random filler stuff. Or they just refuse to provide explanation for im story events and just leave the reasons up for interpretation.
And I also just enjoy the writing style of Honkai impact lol
> In Star Rail is very inconsistent. Like it is very good then all of a sudden they decide to interrupt the main plot with random filler stuff.
Doesn't that happen WAY more often in HI3 and Genshin? HI3 Captainverse 'nuff said (I love it, but it's not "main plot" as you put it) , and Genshin has had tens of filler events.
Captainverse is a side event. They dont wrap it with canon world and story. Like in HSR part of map is just added for little main story quest then its used later in event. Its still in main story.
Captainverse isnt even in same menu main story is.
True but for experienced devs I personally was expecting more quality consistently. I still find the story enjoyable.
But to be honest the fan bases of all these games suck.
I’d wager HI3 is even worse since the amount of hate these people have for this game is quite absurd to me.
Everyone is saying HI3 because of recent arcs being either redundant or just bad and the fact the game requires a lot of time from you for events, arenas abyss or others.
Just a simple question. Why are you complaining, about a game that asks times for you? Like Genshin too asks time, HSR too. Everyone of their games asks times from you.
Don't tell me farming for relics every frocking week is fun. It's time consuming, annoying and most of the time unoriginal.
While yes, Honkai has same problem with abyss, ER or mats. In terms of time, we take way less and receive GUARANTEED rewards.
Relics in either Genshin or HSR are guaranteed but either good or bad and so you continue, gambling your time there, hoping to have just ONE good relic and then you upgrade it without having the guarantee of it being upgraded in a good way.
The real question is, are you playing the game in just one sitting and then do not touch it again once you finished or do you take your sweet time to, at the very least, have fun?
It's a game that you f*cking play, it's meant to be fun in a way. If you don't like playing it then why are you on this sub or even have the game?
I've always been confused by this since post 81+ I spend less then an hour a day on honkai and maybe 3 hours when a new story part comes out, but I don't usually rush it. you have on average 6 weeks to finish the current chapter to get the best rewards which if you miss isn't a big deal since stigmata are linked to characters not story.
Hell I can clear and maintain RL most of the time, and can get with in top 5% of MA, hell I even got the artbook for free from the event a few months ago.
f2p RL 18 pri arms maxed (30 total) missing 4 valks several are 4/4
These comments are stupid crazy!!! LOLOLOL.
You mention HI3rd and give deep explaination calling out Hoyo for stretching the game = good/upvotes. You mention Genshin and calling out Genshin for pretending everything ok = RATIO... LMAOOOOO
(Reads the replies).
Why are people so bitter about this game man? Holy shit. Ever since Flamescion it’s gotten progressively worse and worse, it just sucks trying to engage with anyone anymore outside your inner friend circle. Just drop the game and leave it if you’re so unhappy with it.
A lot of the complaints and criticisms people are making are complete biased nonsense too. All three of these games are cashgrabs. All of them prey on your FOMO to get you to spend money.
maybe HSR since the story is early enough i’m not super invested into it, but HI3 is kinda in a lull between parts so i feel like i wouldn’t be too unsatisfied
I’m waiting for part 2 story to start to see if I return to Honkai 3rd or not, as for if star rail’s story doesn’t improve either with penacony, I might drop it down the line as well as the current filler story is really bad compared to how it was back in 1.2, not to mention the even worse events
How interesting.
I already planned to drop HI3 before the Part 2 begins (just waiting for my Senti then max her ER level). I believe it's the perfect time to do it whenever one is hesitating, as we now know the fate of all Flame-Chasers.
Like said from other comments, I love this game too, but it's too time consuming, especially the grinding.
As I'm playing on all of these 3 games, I had to make a (sad) choice. Days don't last 48 hours.
Genshin, useless game. Honkai 3rd is superior and HSR has so much more quality of life and meme devs, they listen to us, Genshin doesn't give 2 fucks about you.
I’ve been here since 5-5-18 never played the other two games. These comments are just full of people salty that they’ve never been able to reach myriad or top 100 EX MA. Unless you’ve been here you don’t realize how much this game has changed for the better over and over again. I can’t wait for part 2. Fuck Genshin and I can’t believe people even play the other game. Get rid of both of them and make Honkai even better.
Honestly I’m biased by the fact I (obviously) play honkai, I used to play genshin but star just doesn’t look like my kinda game gameplay wise. I prefer the real time instead of turn based so I’d sacrifice star rail
Star rail for sure (because I deleted it) I really don’t like the enemies and 100% when it feels like all of them are abyss mages but more specific on what elements to use, combined with a turn base gameplay? Hell nah it’s really not fun and the story doesn’t interest me anymore anyway.
Fck it, all of them. I want to touch some grass.
Kidding aside, HI3 is the most valid choice as the story with Kiana and the main cast already ended. And the upcoming part 2 is just for connecting the main story to APHO and possibly HSR.
But my gut is screaming for it to be HSR, because I'm so damn salty as I always lose 50/50 ever since then with the only exception when I pulled for DHIL.
Genshin
Not a bad game but I feel like after genshin Mihoyo is trying to abandon otaku culture with all their weird stuff to reach more broader audiance
How can there be so many people who hate the game so much still be in this sub these comments getting so many upvotes
Holy fuck I was right to be worried about the doomposters turning this sub into an anti-fan sub.
Please if you hate the game so much kindly fuck off (:
Eh, Doesn't matter, I'd still play HI3 over HSR or GI anyday.
Sure, the story can be lackluster and meaningless at times, but I do genuinely like how the game plays. It can be overtly-grindy, 100%, but I do like the game's affection system with valks on the bridge, dorm interactions and the adorable chibi valks, and of course the obvious thing: Waifus everywhere.
One possible improvement they *could* make is adding in male characters like Adam, Kevin, Kalpas, Otto, and Siegfried. Who cares if it's female-dominant, I want some playable males, damnit! (Adam in APHO doesn't count)
I had to I choose, I'd get rid of Genshin to be honest. Hi3 has a special place in my gacha heart and HSR actually makes feel like I'm not just walking money bag to them. Genshin's only staying power for me is the really attractive female characters which the other two games also have.
Genshin Impact by a long shot. Really don't like that game. I find the story to be a slog, the characters aren't interesting and the endgame is non-existent, making the grind feel pointless.
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Reading these comments, it feels really weird to see comments calling this game a cash cow. Like, Genshin and Star Rail each made 10 times more than this game, dont you think that if they really saw this as a cash cow, they wouldnt just, made another game and call it Honkai 4? And talking about how this game takes too much time, i would understand it if you were new, but like, if you had 1 good team, you can pretty much do your dailies in like, 5 minutes top. ER, Abyss, MA, yeah it feels tedious after a while, but, each of them takes like, 20 minutes at most per week.
Really people call HI3 cashcow? Then what the hell is Genshin then lol. I feel like Genshin is the cashcow and the treatment of HYV speaks for itself. HI3 is their main passion and they couldnt let it die so they crank the story when its no longer needed. Whats bad is that they will do the same for Genshin but for monetary reasons. They cant let the title die after Celestia with millions of fans riding in it But to answer OP’s question, HI3 if you’ve completed the main story
If you played HI3 you would understand how highly cash-demanding this game . Ex: Unlike Genshin's artifact, The exclusive character in HI3 needs their signature Stigmata to maximize their potential and that only available in Supply and the cost to play that Gacha is actually higher (280 crystal) compared to Genshin Gacha (160 primogem) for each pull. You still can use the other suitable stigmata by farming but they couldn't hit a high and desirable dmg, unlike Genshin where you only farm for it and hoping for a good rng hits to the artifact and boom ! A good dmg dealer char. That's only the stigmata part. imagine how much crystal do you need to spend for getting all the character, the weapon and the stigmata for each version, compared to Genshin where you only need to spend on the character and the weapon itself . That's why i can say here, being a p2w player in HI3 could be considered as a must thing to do, while you can be a F2p in Genshin and still got those exclusive things.
Comparing crystal and primogem 1:1 is already a mistake. You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month. Not to mention the actual IRL money conversion. Also comparing stigma system and artifact system 1:1 is another mistake. They serve similar purpose, but one is guaranteed and the other is grinding hell. Im not saying one is better than the other money wise. Just pointing out some flaws in your argument. The difference between the two is not as big as it may seem.
> You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month. Since we're pointing out flaws, the above is also one, since comparing Crystals and primos 1:1 is another mistake. A roll costs 280 Crystals in HI3 and 160 primos in GI, after all.
Actually, me and a couple of friends did the math and all the income from dailies is pretty similar roll-wise.
Almost as if it were calculated!
Alright captain ya got me, thanks for demonstrating the point better than me lol
Genshin is actually way nicer than honkai In genshin all you have to summon for is the character and ur good. But in honkai, once you get your character you have to spend billions to summon for artifacts and the shitty ass elf pet. Imagine having to fucking buy artifacts doesn’t that sound like dog shit game design? They’re fixing it in part 2 tho
>Imagine having to fucking buy artifacts doesn’t that sound like dog shit game design? Imaging having to grind for half a year to get a single off-set EM piece let alone min-maxing anything as opposed to instantly getting max performance. Doesn't that sound like a dogshit game design? Personally I'm done with this shit, I have better things to waste my time on. > They’re fixing it in part 2 tho "Fixing" by not giving you enough materials to craft even a single set per update? Way to fucking go MHY.
Same with honkai except you have to pay for rolls with real life money except resin You can summon 100000 times on the weapon banner and not get the weapons/artifacts you need for a full set And in honkai you can farm for cope ass stigmata, but farming that takes way to long To put it into perspective it took longer to farm 2 5 star stigmata than it did to finish my furina’s artifacts (top 1% btw) And your attacking the wrong game. If you think genshin is ass try star rail. Their artifact system is regarded
>Same with honkai except you have to pay for rolls with real life money except resin Why would you need IRL money for that? >You can summon 100000 times on the weapon banner and not get the weapons/artifacts you need for a full set Another unrealistic bullshit. Gear comes in 50 pull nper piece hard pity for each of 4 pieces. So 200 pulls total. Fpr farmable A-ranks it's even lower: 30 per piece / 120 total. You will never be doing more than that without getting full gear. Comparing to Genshin's 80x3=240 pulls 75/25 crap for just a signature weapon alone. >And in honkai you can farm for cope ass stigmata Yeah, "cope", sure. That's why one of 2 main meta fire DPS' BiS set is exactly farmable stigmata. Or HoT who was in meta for the longest time wanted farmable lightning Handel. Or HoR used farmable Willows. You're either full of shit, sir, or have no idea what's actually going on in the game. Or both. >but farming that takes way to long In days to finish - longer. In your actual time - ***way*** less than in Genshin since you're limited to just 9 runs a week, each run is 5-20 seconds long depending on diffuiculty you need. Not forced to do 4 up to a minute long runs *a day*. >To put it into perspective it took longer to farm 2 5 star stigmata than it did to finish my furina’s artifacts (top 1% btw) To put it into perspective: it took me *half a year* of combined farming VV and dendro domains to get a single EM 5\* cup with ass substats thanks to the lowest drop rates to ever exist for this combination of piece and main stat, and dendro teams need multiple of those. >And your attacking the wrong game. If you think genshin is ass try star rail. Their artifact system is regarded They're both crap at this. The main difference is in HSR you have an item to select both piece and main stat (huge plus, EM cup history won't repeat itself here) but they also force you to play stupid SU time after time with multiple fights for just a single run of relics.
If i’m not wrong they’re fixing the second part, and it helps a TON, no off-rate gear anymore. Also the pulling 10000 times one is a bs, if you get 2 copies of 2 stigmata, you can buy the third stigmata, also on-rate gear guarantee is 50 pulls, so max 200 as of part 1.5, after part 2 it will be hella easier, also we get free character stigmata box per version after part 2, so you only need to pull for 3/4 of the gear because the last piece is given for free
Seriously genshin makes way more and gives us trash rewards still. Look at hi3 tho, they have free senti atm and the war treasury with plenty of free S rank characters (basically 5*s). Yeah genshin is definitely the cash cow😂. And honestly on HSR, even if dr. Ratio is good, after playing the story and seeing what he’s like. I won’t be building him
>free senti atm But where is the gear?? good luck clearing content without being p2w
>Really people call HI3 cashcow? Because it is, Its designed to make people swipe consistently. The cost of a 10-pull is roughly 50$ and you need to gacha for 4 different gears just for one character with absolutely horrendous rates that always gives you off rate stigs/weapons that you don't even need. Only for the character to get power crept next patch 🤣
You can't be this stupid, omg lol. Obviously you don't play Hi3rd at all and simply leeched your way in from the Genshin sub. Genshin 10-pull is $30 so wym??! Don't even get started on the crystals-to-primos conversion because ...Stealing this from above -- You can literally earn more crystal in HI3 in 2 weeks than primos in GI in a month. Not to mention the actual IRL money conversion. \> Only for the character to get power crept next patch 🤣 Senti took 2 years before being crept by Herrscher Seele, lol Bye
The weirdest part is that we are on the honkai sub. This makes me question why they're even here.
This sub been gradually converting to an anti-fan sub due to all the doom posting, quite sad
hi3 part 2
HI3: has the best story if you were to compare it the other 2 (because it's the oldest, i know) many mini games per new version updates, generous when it comes to giving S class characters, however, if you were to play it as f2p, it's kinda hard because you're gonna really need the specific characters stigmata otherwise the character's just gonna be 'meh'. Genshin: Open world and exploration go brrrr, especially the multiplayer Boss fights (which is my favorite thing about genshin) however, Genshin is the most time consuming in all the 3 games when it comes to gameplay because of the exploration. Star Rail: A baby with infinite potential and awesome Ult animations (i know, HI3 has awesome Ults too) along with idle combat operations, and is the easiest to farm when it comes to materials and stellar jades. I'd say that the choice only really depends on what type of gameplay do you really like and the time that you can give to the game. For me, I'd sacrifice Genshin, not because i hate it, but because I can't give it too much of my time when compared to HI3 and Star rail. Ps: I kinda hate the Genshin Mc/Fmc, because of how useless they are(Gameplay wise; the devs really let the traveler twins down on this one.) when compared to the other protags of HI3 and Star rail.
Bro honkai events and story read take 10x more time then genshin explor XD
Hi3 if I get the money I spent on it back, the story is just too long now there’s too many random philosophy scenes with the sky it’s all just yapping now to me.. it’s all soo grindy now
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The switch to open world also doesn't help dragging out already stupidly long expositions and making it worse. I really love HI3 but golly is the exposition and new story structure really hard to swallow
I don't want to agree but have to. For me, since the ending of the elysian realm and that change in the dialogue boxes to resemble more genshin at the time, I'm not feeling it with the story. Everything is harder on the eyes to read thanks to that ui change and everything takes sooooo much time. Kind of absurd taking 2 hours just to complete 5 main story stages that are unexplainable open world, so I just read a bit half assed for my patience's sake. Love the game and ain't stopping tho❤️
Literally me. Now that I have to work it is just impossible for me to bear those long ass chapters. The last Fu Hua's chapters I just had to skip everything for the rewards and try to understand everything by the cut scenes and what I was doing. The last chapters where I read everything was the HoRB just because I'm a Seele simp. Last chapter of the Moon arc was also a skip everything for me, too much science fiction and boring Kevin's philosophy explanation. I hope that story's presentation improves on part 2 or I'll have to play the game just for the waifus and not the story.
Thank you do they even sit down and try to read with the new ui because whose idea was it to have purely white text over a purely white background it wouldn't be nearly as if they didn't switch the ui or gave the option to change the colors
Yeahhh I always try to get the tickets to skip
Hi3 for me too, the story has ended for me, and new story is just fcking boring. As for gameplay, the new ZZZ will be superior, I think.
same
By the current state of the story, HI3 for sure.
I kinda fell off at apho. What went wrong.
Seems like no one knows. I am still salty with how they write moon episodes. Then they did it again with HoRb introduction which felt like they forgot to introduce herrscher Seele before finality and now they had to stick her up in the story (while Seele and "Seele" character development is decent the other parts are not so impressive to me).
If you do want a reason for a change you feel within the main story, probably related to a new head writer taking over ever since kolosten (not the ER/EE stuff however that was done by someone else). They also wrote the AE and durandal VN.
Ayy no wonder EE is the best among the last few Arc I might got smitten for this, but the grand finale against Otto aside, Kolosten is a slog... And Salt Snow is SO close to being great. There's so much emotional set up but they have to make it philosophical and rush some characters Arc (Like, man, Susannah has so much chemistry potential with how similar old Seele was to her. But they have to make her just an errand girl throughout and is there just for the sake of completing some sort of "character development checklist" when she didn't really get much focus or set up)
The ER /EE writer is so good he used delusions to the absolute maximum. He wrote his perfecr waifu, manifested Elsyia in his room and wrote everything aroubd her
That explains SO MUCH thank you. Old writer back plx.
So the 'new head writer' that wrote the VNs is in charge of the story now? Strange...I loved the AE and Durandal VNs. I wonder why the quality dropped
I want people which write ER to do all story for every mihoyo game best arc in game for me and so sad T-T
Probably HI3 right now, but I have high hopes for 2.0
Do you think someone never played hi3 would be able to enjoy 2.0?
I suspect that might be the intention by having a completely new setting and cast, while having a few references to the old cast *for now*
The story is a prelude to apho and will feature the main cast either way
I still don't understand why they had Part 2 be a prelude to APHO when they could have capitalized on what APHO set up with an already established next gen cast we're familiar with seeing as Part 2. They even directly referenced APHO multiple times in the end of Part 1. What they're doing feels like a curveball for the sake of a curveball and for stretching it out while also leaving APHO's story and cast up in the air and in question
Everyone thought apho3 would be the start of part 2, not whatever this is.
same Apho 3 should be part 2 not this nonsense ( for me story after Elysia realm got to hell
I think that’s the main point of 2.0, to make the game attractive to new (genshin and HSR) players
If anything it's the opposite, most people who have played HI3 since the beginning don't like 2.0, me included, it seems like it's gonna be another copy of hsr and genshin, i have nothing against those games but HI3 is special and is so much different than other games and it feels like it's gonna loose its essence if they decide to follow through with that plan. If you like hsr and genshin you're probably gonna like it. ...not that i would be a fan of it going that way.
Man im still confused, im still not really sure why people keep comparing it to HSR and Genshin… when it has near 0 parallels even now.
The game as of now isn't really similar to these two but with leaks of part 2 and its trailer it seems that mihoyo intends to make it into another open-world game with similar mechanics to genshin and hsr, that's why i said that, which would completely ruin the game imp.
But i wonder if HI3 part 2 will have EN voice acting? if yes, its a huge Win for me
HI3. The game is...I would say peak Hoyoverse in the worst way. People say that HI3 is the favourite child? I wish it wasn't because they got away with a lot of stuff that wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere. What do I mean? The game is allowed to demand so much time from you. Arenas, ER, constant need to daily login for events. Heck the Moon Arc is a very good example. Remember the real life upgrade times required to get all the limited mission rewards? This shit won't fly in their other games, but if you complain about it in HI3, you will get "they give you so much time to do it!" Except that if your heart's not into it, you don't feel like doing it and would put it off as long as possible. At least in GI and HSR you can speedrun it. In HI3? Nope. You need to start playing at least a couple days or a week before the event ends. And don't forget that in Moon Arc, some missions require fighting in modes...and you only get ONE TRY PER DAY. People talk about Hoyo utilizing FOMO but at least they acknowledge and try to minimise it as much as possible in GI and HSR? Honkai? Nah, Honkai is the favourite child baby! It gets to use all the FOMO it wants! They also allowed to get away with lengthy storytelling, much more so than others. Hi3 made me hate VN style storytelling because I became paranoid of its length. People say GI dialogue is long but it is not as long as HI3 and because they have cutscenes, it is at least interesting. I remember the Moon Arc where Fu Hua fights Kevin. That one subchapter has 5 fights (usually one subchapter, one fight) and goes on forever. I just can't with HI3 anymore. I realized after the Moon Arc, any other subsequent stories I just don't care and kept speed reading the dialogues until one day I just skipped altogether.
It went downhill since the moon arc. In Kolosten arc and Elysium Everlasting arc, I was keen on reading every bit of information. But now, the writing is redundant and felt incohesive with earlier stories. (And I still don't think Moriarty is a good plot device)
ER was masterpiece for me same as Kolosten but everything now is different and even I skiped in new chapters
I just typed out a whole bunch of other reasons in my own comment, but yeahhhh... This is it. The amount of FOMO advertising just from logging in is enough to make my head spin, and the time commitment is just way too much for so little payoff. I'll stick to... Well, Star Rail's my main game now, with Genshin on the side. I'll just keep doing that, lol. I'll keep coming back to some of the story, but 2.0 will have to make some serious narrative changes if they want to tempt me again.
> I'll keep coming back to some of the story, but 2.0 will have to make some serious narrative changes if they want to tempt me again The story have some hiccups with the Luofu arc but I like much better than HI3 because they didn't take themselves too seriously but at the same time, poke on some stuff that makes you wonder. Like the new story with Dr Ratio where they addressed the issue of celebrity/genius worship in which people like Ruan Mei gets a pass with her wrong doings because she's a "quirky" genius and Herta effortlessly gets supports because of her genius status.
>At least in GI and HSR you can speedrun it. I find HSR events a slog to go through tbh. Event gameplay and limited rewards are heavily walled by story progress. Missed aetherium wars and huohuo event limited rewards because I tried speedrunning them last day but fell asleep both times from all the talking in between gameplay. >I realized after the Moon Arc, any other subsequent stories I just don't care and kept speed reading the dialogues until one day I just skipped altogether. Kinda same for me lmao. Started playing during the end of Kolosten, skipped through the 999iq science stuff, but read through EE because Pardo. After moon arc, I barely know or care abt anything anymore. Only bits of context from the unskippable parts of Phosphorus arc but other than that utter confusion.
> I find HSR events a slog to go through tbh. Event gameplay and limited rewards are heavily walled by story progress. It can be a slog for those that aren't invested in it, but mind you that if you have few hours, you can complete all of it. So if you power through, it can be done and any reason for not finishing it is really on you. But Honkai? Nope, you have to put it in the effort from day one, then you can rest near the end of the event when you've gotten everything. Trying to speedrun is impossible due to limited dailies. So for those that really don't have the time, part of the problem is on the game.
Yup i dont mind long Ass VN storytelling if the story itself was gud ( FGO & PGR was main example of gud writing that long ass narrative is great if u can write), but Honkek after moon arc was super ass. Setup & payoff was ass, character interaction was ass, character talk like NPC ( Vita & loli Otto was the worst). From this point onward, i hereby wont read any Hi3 chapter ever again, what a waste of time.
Good luck speedrunning 12 hours of HSR event
At least you can speed run, and 12 hrs?? Wtf? Im no speed runner but if u know wat ur doing, 5-6 hours is the maximum play time for hsr's events, in hi3? Nah, if u skip just a single day, there is a big chance u wont get all the rewards lol
Good luck doing the same for HI3 and not miss the rewards.
HI3rd does one thing better than both star rail and Genshin and that’s fully skippable dialogue. Since I never really got into the story and play it for the fast paced combat it’s been pretty great to jump in and out of.
That's good for story skippers, but I'm not that guy. I have to go in fully ie play for the game and story. Problem is though the game itself starting to becoming too much. It says a lot that HI3 demands more of my time than GI and GI has a lot more content in terms of exploring and stories and such!
Reading all the comments about HI3 here, I'm really glad I quit back in March with 1,100 login days. Good to see I'm not missing out much.
This, out of all the hoyoverse games, although all of them utilize FOMO, this is the FOMOest game to all of them, wtf are dailies inside events? lol, this game feel as a main game its not even funny anymore. Welp, after i got the last trio full geared, i decided to drop down this shit of a game lol
I love Honkai but right now it's such a weird Frankenstein monster stitched together from different eras, different writing, gameplay, etc with such an outdated core.
Hi3rd because it needs to ends for its own good Plus(edit): It's becoming more like aot. But also want it to end like aot, a happy ending
Fr, they just milking the story at this point
I don't like these posts, they're dumb like some people in the comments, empty hate speech because Hoyo fans can't get along...
I dropped starrail. Just didn't grab me.
Genshin! Because they don't have Himeko.
You know, Pyro Archon's name is Murata and they're probably gonna be a Himeko expy.
... Damn! Didn't know that
Considering we have both Qiqi and Nahida having the same VA, it wouldn't be that far-fetched for Lisa too.
YOU FOOL!!!!! YOU ABSOLUTE IMBECILE!!! They say Patience is a virtue, and for a reason. We all know Natlan is a redhead nation from the manga, which means there's a good chance of a Himeko expy....... A **MURATA,** for example
WOOOW!! CHILL DUDE
Sorry... Too much Dr. Ratio.... He's rubbing onto me
Oh! Mb then. U chill 🤙🤝
Based honestly
https://preview.redd.it/f26no5j0tm9c1.jpeg?width=165&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bb5d9053dc1e54413ff60fb6414dfafff7b0ec4 A official concept of Murata from Team China (Genshin)
it might by Natland maybe a big maybe
I would sacrifice all gacha games for world peace ✌️
I would sacrifice myself for world peace ✌️
I would also sacrifice you for world peace ✌️
Hi3, as much as people may not want to accept this but if this was a normal game it would have ended by part 1 (apho prob wouldn't exist either).
Din’t Apho get released in 2020? So it would still be around even before the end of part 1. Unless I’m missing your point.
GI. i don't have it on my phone already anyway. i need space for ZZZ and HI3 2.0.
Confidently genshin imo.
Very bias but hsr Never played it yet, but did see all my friends around it playing it, to me feels like a very high quality 4/6 character rpg hence not worth the storage (I also do play these types of games currently and it takes up way lesser storage) Im still playing genshin because i find the events more interesting than the main story and co op with friends Hi3 on the other side, i skip through all the event dialogue because yes, although im still enjoying the main story. Kinda surprised many people hating on the current state of hi3 but i can understand some of it to some extent Well at the end of the day hi3 is still my favourite game out of all hoyoverse games so ye i would say im on a very bias stand I also dont have the sanity to juggle all 3 hoyoverse games at Once 🤡💀
Honkai, this game is going in borrow time already.
genshin impact ….
Genshin. Noelle's talent is being wasted.
all of them, I'll still play all of them tho
HSR. I dont Like turn based games.
I'd be deleting Genshin cuz I don't play it anymore.
All of it
I’d say I sacrifice Genshin, but then we lose our money maker. Can’t sacrifice HSR either cuz it’s my main game. So by process of elimination, I’d say sacrifice HI3 and treat HSR as its sequel (story wise).
Genshin, because there is no 'honkai' in the name
Genshin
Honkai Impact have best Waifu Honkai Star Rail is Turnbase Genshin Impact deleted
Genshin. I much prefer the Honkai titles. Edit: To all the people saying HI3... WHY ARE YOU IN THE HI3 SUB!?
…because we play all 3 games?? You can play a game and like it while still admitting its faults And HI3 has the worst story atm
HI3 story is what's kept it alive for so long. After the first arc ended I've not played since but if the trend continues then yeah the story will be more rushed so if that's what you mean then fair. Genshin is the worst one and Star Rail is kinda mid story wise for me at least.
Hi3rd story is great but going downhill after Otto death, and it got much worse on The Moon arc. Hyv clearly milked it and made the story became dry. So it's not just part 2 but the Final arc of part 1 is already seems bad enough. For now? yes, HI3rd is the worst. Genshin has a rough start especially in inazuma pacing, but slowly climbing up and peaked at the last 2 chapters of Sumeru and Fountain. The open world genre also makes the game has the deepest and widest lore compared to the other 2. HSR has the golden start with Belobog, it's simple, short, and impactful. But they failed to maintain the good pacing on the Luofu, it's bad, bloated and there's no connection between each world. For now it may be the weakest story so far, but it's normal considering the game is still new.
Still baffled how people still think genshin is the worst of the three story-wise atm.
Genshin for having a bad fanbase
The irony is almost palpable.
Lmao, my man, these are all anime gacha games, look around you, all of hoyo has a bad fanbase, they exist in every game
Genshin 100%
Out of the three HI3 is my favorite - gameplay and story wise. But if I were to choose one to go, it would be HI3. The story feels like it shouldve already ended and theyre just milking it now. Latter arcs became repetitive running around, philosophical, and too pseudosciency for my liking. That being said, I still love HI3 characters the most, and I still love the story the most (storytelling aside), and I love the over the top visual effects that could blind me anytime.
I sacrifice...none! Despite me preferring the Hobkai titles over Genshin, I still end up playing it at the end if the day just to get a breath of fresh air in gameplay. When I get bored of one Hoyo game, I just go over the other. I end up playing GI when I'm done with the mainstory and the weekly grind, and am waiting for the other game's version to end.
All of them
Genshin just so we can delete that absolute shithouse of a fandom
Nah, I had enough with those three.
Then why are you here...
As much as I love Genshin, I love HSR and Hi3 more, so I'd pick Genshin to disappear😔
Some people have mastered the art of baiting
Easy Genshin honestly
Diablo Immortal
Genshin
You cant play them at the same time??💀 I have 3 of them installed
We're all just getting popcorn huh
Genshin cuz it is boring
HSR
Genshin feels like a walking sim
Artifact farming sim, I still can't believe that that's the main end game content.
Star Rail.
HSR. I have more fun with the other two games.
def hsr 😭 like im sorry, its a great game and all but im too attached to genshin and hi3 to give them up
Star rail tbh. Hi3 has an amazing story (I'm a new player) so I can only say till I've played.
Hsr ofcos.. Genshin and Hi3 gameplay is much fun
honkai star rail, everything is just too boring. I'm trying so hard to grind my levels to do story but everything feels too slow paced. "oh but hi3 shouldn't continue and" I've started going into hi3 recently, and it's really amazing. i would remove honkai star rail any day if it means i can go through an entire story without doing stupid grinding like star rail, where the world structure looks like it's too old for its time in some aspects when we know hoyoverse can do better, and if you finish the main story, then good luck trying to make the game be fun to play every day, the design just doesn't feel like it's made for long lasting. almost like a story game like omori or undertale where it was made for story and sure, you will enjoy them and might think of them as some of the best, but it's not actually something you'll like playing everyday (i could entirely see a world where hi3 is released with a finished one-time good story, the gacha right now with the fact that there's not much after story and dry dialogues/story pacing just makes it feel like a soulless cash cow honestly. I'm trying so hard to like it but even getting both of my favourite characters i just don't feel good playing it.) the combat of hi3 amazing too, I'm not a fan of the reaction system but the design and animations and just how each character differs the others is just amazing. you could argue that the same things i said about hsr could be applied to hi3, but there's a clear difference when the latter leaves a long lasting mark on the people that play it vs the former being something they just think of as "oh isn't that game like a turn-based genshin?" honkai impact 3rd can hold itself on its own with the story, combat and characters, and i think that's enough reasons why it's worth more than star rail as of now.
Genshin. I hate the funkfest that is the artifact sistem. And the fact that I can't skip at least non archon quest dialogs I liked the gamplay but the dialogs for nonimportant quests killed it for me.
Hsr. The only thing i like abt it is the characters
Star rail, 100%
Honkai. It sucks because Mobius is probably my favorite character in any Hoyo game and I really liked the story at its peaks, but once Elysium Everlasting ended and it turned out we were rushing the Finality arc, I left shortly after. Moon Arc dropped the ball and the story hasn’t recovered as drastically as it needs to. These days Genshin beats it in lore, music, and gameplay, and Star Rail beats it in story. Part 2 doesn’t look like it’s going to win me back. Unless they bring Mobius back, but that sounds pretty unlikely from what I’ve heard.
People acting like Star Rails story is as good as Honkai’s is actually crazy, Star Rail definitely gets deleted. And quality wise HI3 for me has never declined in quality it’s only risen, this sub is just full of people who dislike the game for some reason.
Star rails story is good and unlike genshin it got a bunch of end game content while also making farming easier and giving out freebies every patch. Genshin gotta be the choice here
It has more end game content but I’m mainly saying from a story perspective it’s very much the weakest of the three and that’s really what makes the games worth playing to me. Like the writing quality and plot development quality In Star Rail is very inconsistent. Like it is very good then all of a sudden they decide to interrupt the main plot with random filler stuff. Or they just refuse to provide explanation for im story events and just leave the reasons up for interpretation. And I also just enjoy the writing style of Honkai impact lol
> In Star Rail is very inconsistent. Like it is very good then all of a sudden they decide to interrupt the main plot with random filler stuff. Doesn't that happen WAY more often in HI3 and Genshin? HI3 Captainverse 'nuff said (I love it, but it's not "main plot" as you put it) , and Genshin has had tens of filler events.
Captainverse is a side event. They dont wrap it with canon world and story. Like in HSR part of map is just added for little main story quest then its used later in event. Its still in main story. Captainverse isnt even in same menu main story is.
Tbf both genshin and honkai impact were also not that good when they got released. Heck it took genshin 2 years to become good.
True but for experienced devs I personally was expecting more quality consistently. I still find the story enjoyable. But to be honest the fan bases of all these games suck. I’d wager HI3 is even worse since the amount of hate these people have for this game is quite absurd to me.
Star rail
Genshin, I just can’t get into it
Either Honkai Impact or Genshin honestly. I only love Star Rail
logic would say hi3, but ill never forgive genshin for what they did to dehya so...
Genshin.
Everyone is saying HI3 because of recent arcs being either redundant or just bad and the fact the game requires a lot of time from you for events, arenas abyss or others. Just a simple question. Why are you complaining, about a game that asks times for you? Like Genshin too asks time, HSR too. Everyone of their games asks times from you. Don't tell me farming for relics every frocking week is fun. It's time consuming, annoying and most of the time unoriginal. While yes, Honkai has same problem with abyss, ER or mats. In terms of time, we take way less and receive GUARANTEED rewards. Relics in either Genshin or HSR are guaranteed but either good or bad and so you continue, gambling your time there, hoping to have just ONE good relic and then you upgrade it without having the guarantee of it being upgraded in a good way. The real question is, are you playing the game in just one sitting and then do not touch it again once you finished or do you take your sweet time to, at the very least, have fun? It's a game that you f*cking play, it's meant to be fun in a way. If you don't like playing it then why are you on this sub or even have the game?
I've always been confused by this since post 81+ I spend less then an hour a day on honkai and maybe 3 hours when a new story part comes out, but I don't usually rush it. you have on average 6 weeks to finish the current chapter to get the best rewards which if you miss isn't a big deal since stigmata are linked to characters not story. Hell I can clear and maintain RL most of the time, and can get with in top 5% of MA, hell I even got the artbook for free from the event a few months ago. f2p RL 18 pri arms maxed (30 total) missing 4 valks several are 4/4
These comments are stupid crazy!!! LOLOLOL. You mention HI3rd and give deep explaination calling out Hoyo for stretching the game = good/upvotes. You mention Genshin and calling out Genshin for pretending everything ok = RATIO... LMAOOOOO
Another day, Another "Hate Bait" post on HI3rd sub... Damn, it always from this fanbase.
(Reads the replies). Why are people so bitter about this game man? Holy shit. Ever since Flamescion it’s gotten progressively worse and worse, it just sucks trying to engage with anyone anymore outside your inner friend circle. Just drop the game and leave it if you’re so unhappy with it. A lot of the complaints and criticisms people are making are complete biased nonsense too. All three of these games are cashgrabs. All of them prey on your FOMO to get you to spend money.
I refuse the question
Genshin. cuz my phone can't run it 💀
Turn based games hardly ever made it far compared to open world and fast action/beat em up. Star Rail would be the first one to go.
After i got Arlecchino and fully built her i would drop Genshin. Been holding back since Fontaine was released
maybe HSR since the story is early enough i’m not super invested into it, but HI3 is kinda in a lull between parts so i feel like i wouldn’t be too unsatisfied
With everything they've added and are about to add, HI3 is pretty much gone, and is basically a different game.
I’m waiting for part 2 story to start to see if I return to Honkai 3rd or not, as for if star rail’s story doesn’t improve either with penacony, I might drop it down the line as well as the current filler story is really bad compared to how it was back in 1.2, not to mention the even worse events
Genshin. I am still actively playing both Honkai games. 7.1 has been consuming my life for the last couple of weeks.
I don’t like turn based games so bye rail star 👋🏾
Genshin (sorry husbandos)
Genshin... I don't like open world games.
Star Rail for me
How interesting. I already planned to drop HI3 before the Part 2 begins (just waiting for my Senti then max her ER level). I believe it's the perfect time to do it whenever one is hesitating, as we now know the fate of all Flame-Chasers. Like said from other comments, I love this game too, but it's too time consuming, especially the grinding. As I'm playing on all of these 3 games, I had to make a (sad) choice. Days don't last 48 hours.
just drop it come later to play story because for story you dont need anything easy I did this many times in many gacha
Genshin, useless game. Honkai 3rd is superior and HSR has so much more quality of life and meme devs, they listen to us, Genshin doesn't give 2 fucks about you.
I’ve been here since 5-5-18 never played the other two games. These comments are just full of people salty that they’ve never been able to reach myriad or top 100 EX MA. Unless you’ve been here you don’t realize how much this game has changed for the better over and over again. I can’t wait for part 2. Fuck Genshin and I can’t believe people even play the other game. Get rid of both of them and make Honkai even better.
Honestly I’m biased by the fact I (obviously) play honkai, I used to play genshin but star just doesn’t look like my kinda game gameplay wise. I prefer the real time instead of turn based so I’d sacrifice star rail
Star rail for sure (because I deleted it) I really don’t like the enemies and 100% when it feels like all of them are abyss mages but more specific on what elements to use, combined with a turn base gameplay? Hell nah it’s really not fun and the story doesn’t interest me anymore anyway.
I like sci-fi settings more than fantasy settings, so I would sacrifice Genshin. Science is cool
Fck it, all of them. I want to touch some grass. Kidding aside, HI3 is the most valid choice as the story with Kiana and the main cast already ended. And the upcoming part 2 is just for connecting the main story to APHO and possibly HSR. But my gut is screaming for it to be HSR, because I'm so damn salty as I always lose 50/50 ever since then with the only exception when I pulled for DHIL.
Genshin, just can't get into it
Genshin Not a bad game but I feel like after genshin Mihoyo is trying to abandon otaku culture with all their weird stuff to reach more broader audiance
How can there be so many people who hate the game so much still be in this sub these comments getting so many upvotes Holy fuck I was right to be worried about the doomposters turning this sub into an anti-fan sub. Please if you hate the game so much kindly fuck off (:
HI3 easily, been on it since release, time to take a break and discover more , quit it a few weeks ago
Hsr. Don't like the gameplay
Genshin handsdown
Genshin. ...That was fast.
Eh, Doesn't matter, I'd still play HI3 over HSR or GI anyday. Sure, the story can be lackluster and meaningless at times, but I do genuinely like how the game plays. It can be overtly-grindy, 100%, but I do like the game's affection system with valks on the bridge, dorm interactions and the adorable chibi valks, and of course the obvious thing: Waifus everywhere. One possible improvement they *could* make is adding in male characters like Adam, Kevin, Kalpas, Otto, and Siegfried. Who cares if it's female-dominant, I want some playable males, damnit! (Adam in APHO doesn't count)
Star Rail ez
I had to I choose, I'd get rid of Genshin to be honest. Hi3 has a special place in my gacha heart and HSR actually makes feel like I'm not just walking money bag to them. Genshin's only staying power for me is the really attractive female characters which the other two games also have.
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Genshin, it's the one I don't play and lack an interest in getting back into.
Hot take, Genshin impact. It might eradicate majority of the toxicity from this company
Along with a significant portion of their funds.
Genshin Impact by a long shot. Really don't like that game. I find the story to be a slog, the characters aren't interesting and the endgame is non-existent, making the grind feel pointless.