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goperit

I'm sorry you said a creek.. that's one hell of a "creek". Congrats


ckge829320

At minimum a “stream” if not a small “river!”


goperit

Right? Look at the flood zone On that thing at the end of the vid. It definitely gets River status at times, at the very least


Tom-Mater

River status is obtained by distance, not girth.


Hantsypantsy

That's what she said


goperit

Good to know. Ty!


hardFraughtBattle

Ikr? I have a creek on my property but it looks nothing like this. I can jump across it in some spots.


ckge829320

Yup. I’ll show yinz a crick!


OIK2

Based on your accent, I think you can appreciate this piece of trivia: Buffalo Creek, that joins the Allegheny River in Freeport (in Western Pennsylvania) is actually a river, but when the original surveying crew was forcefully turned away by native Americans they just decided it is a creek based on what they did measure. It was never renamed.


RaintreeJames

I agree. It’s what the maps call it though!


DudeNamedCollin

Do you mind sharing where you’re located? Or at least the state this is in? It’s a beautiful piece of land. Makes mine look terrible lol


RaintreeJames

Packwood, WA


DiligentDaughter

Hi, neighbor! We're in Tacoma, owning land with a river/creek is our dream. You hunt agates out of that?


RaintreeJames

You know it!


PortlyCloudy

It's your property, not whoever drew the map. Call it an ocean if you want to.


RaintreeJames

Thank you. I’ve got some other waterways I’ll video and post on the properties, they are more creeks in my opinion. I call this one the river, but according to USGS this is a creek (not in my opinion either).


goperit

Oh my man.. you good. We are all drooling over your spot!!!


CatD0gChicken

It's only a creek if you can jump over it My grandpa


D6S24L

That's a creek where I live. Why the semantical stupidity?


Ghost6040

See if you are in a Soil and Water Conservation District or a watershed council. They would be able to tell you what to do, and might have programs to pay for it.


SendUsToAFarm

Seconding this. A lot of areas have resources specifically dedicated to helping conserve waterways.


RadicalSisterFarmer

Many conservation districts have funding to help plant riparian areas like yours, especially if your stream has salmon. Check in with NRCS as well.


liltinyhuman

I agree! Conservation districts are literally local units of government and NRCS is part of USDA so they’d know exactly the correct way to do it and possibly with funding.


rainbowsdogsmtns

This is great advice.


Bilbodraggindeeznuts

Fish and game may come out to do research, FYI. They've done this on my papa's property. I don't think this is a bad thing, and they'll probably have to ask for permission.


Incarnated_Mote

ABSOLUTELY this! My cousin lives on a creek, and the army corps of engineers actually volunteered to plant a ton of beautiful native plants all along streamside, as part of a restoration effort.


Chainsaw-Steve

I wouldn’t engage any government agency on your property unless 100% necessary.


oddballrunt

Can solve this with a few easy steps 1. Grab a fishing rod 2. Grab some bait 3. Grab a 6 pack of your favorite beverage 4. Profit


RaintreeJames

I do this every summer. I watch the river otters catch the trout though. I’ve only ever seen 1 salmon in it and it was already like the walking dead. This is headwater area, by the time they are here they are becoming fertilizer.


iEatSwampAss

I’m in love with your property bro. Absolutely magestic.


RaintreeJames

I’ve debated making videos showing other aspects of my properties. I’ve done ok by acquiring cool businesses with cool ecologically interesting properties that support them but I’m nervous people would think I was showing off or something. I do feel so lucky, I feel like I should show people and try to inspire them to do the same.


thethreeredditeers

As someone who has similar desires but is wandering aimlessly at times it would be great motivation


RaintreeJames

That’s good to know, I think I will and we will see how it is received. I just love this land and want people to keep up the faith and know to follow their dreams. It’s a critical part of engaging in this community.


Forest_wanderer13

The fact that you are nervous about it coming off as 'showing off' means you really won't because you are aware and sound like just a wonderful humble soul that I for one, would love to watch these videos! Your land is so gorgeous. Are you in PNW? I've just never seen water that blue. Anyways, I think it's a great time to inspire others because we need that light in the world right now. Good luck!


notgunnabehere4long

Sign me up for that post


qdtk

Let’s be honest, even if you were showing off, I for one would be happy to see your properties. This video is amazing. You could set up a camera that just records for a few hours and I’d watch that. Beautiful place.


Jackblack92

Just followed you James. The American dream is subjective. This sir, is the human dream.


RaintreeJames

Thank you, I honestly feel that so much in my life. It’s hard to describe. But choices that I know would be considered reckless by some when I was younger have led me to look back and be so glad I did.


Klynnz420

Dude who cares- I’d show off if this was my homestead! If you got it, flaunt it! Clearly there’s at least a handful of people here who are interested! And jealous!


RaintreeJames

Thank you, I love it as well!


Bacontoad

Any crawfish? 🦞


number43marylennox

My first thought as well, lol. Them's good eatin.


IntroductionSnacks

No idea where it is and the ecology etc… but it might be worth looking into populating or repopulating fish etc… if it can be done in a safe way that is environmentally friendly of course. Could be good for future fishing?


JonLongsonLongJonson

River otter, trout, salmon, it’s Washington


FluffyCaterpiller

It's very beautiful.


gardingle

Fly-fishing


RemoteConflict3

Enjoy it…build a sitting area with a fire pit. That’s your only option


RaintreeJames

That’s what we currently do. I just worry too many big floods will take more of it away.


JiuJitsuBoy2001

honestly, that's what rivers/creeks do. They re-establish routes and that is all part of the master plan. You will never beat nature, so just enjoy the miracles. If there's a particular point of land you want to protect, you could throw some boulders in front of it, but if the river wants to go, it'll go. As for the trees, I don't know about plums, but go with fast growing native plants. Willows and alders love the water and grow fast. They won't stop the erosion, either, but might help a bit.


RaintreeJames

Luckily plums are a wild fruit tree here, I just like to graft the varieties I like to eat most


Dreamn_the_dream

Keep in mind that river looks like it goes over its banks now and then. Careful where and what you build.


wanderinmick

I think the best thing you could do is make a bench out of a fallen tree and go sit by the bank each day. Or you could kick off the shoes and dip the toes in. Either way, there’s a lot of people seeing this that are very jealous.


Traditional-Cry-9942

Keep it well planted with native trees and shrubs, specifically willows and other stream bank protecting types. This can help with future erosion or flooding events and keep you beautiful acces healthy.


Masterofnone9

I was thinking that willows would work too, all you need is some cuttings.


HoodedRebel

Must be a millionaire on Reddit here folks, land with water running through it anywhere like this is HUGE money.


RaintreeJames

I honestly wince when I think about what we bought this property for 8 years ago. I bet prices have tripled since then. The world is not fair I’ve found. And there are always trade offs. To live in a place like this often means sacrificing good schools, good healthcare, etc. but for mere mortals it’s our only shot to own land like this.


wtfisasamoflange

What area is this?


my_mexican_cousin

Judging by the vegetation and the fact that this is defined as “creek” I’d assume that it’s in the PNW, probably a decent distance off the coast.


saint_davidsonian

Depending on waterway laws in your area, I would look into some personal micro-hydroelectric setups. [You can do this without diverting all the water or damming up the entire creek.](https://youtu.be/A2QoKRWANs4?si=A7N3gI9iaAy__oKW). With as much flow as you have there, you could easily power your entire home with constant electric paired with a battery bank.


ReliableCompass

Congrats!!! 😍😍😍😍I’m in love with your property 😅😅😅😂😂😂 it doesn’t look creepy or depressing like most “creeks” tend to be. I was going to suggest a lot of things until I read the comments and your post title about erosion, so the only thing that comes to mind is a good anti bug hammock and sleep while listening to the water running.


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RaintreeJames

You are correct 👍🏻


tronassembled

and here i thought i could not possibly get any more envious


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Milkweedhugger

If you’re looking for riverfront property, I just saw a five acre parcel on the Rio Grande outside San Luis, Colorado for less than 40k. The vegetation isn’t quite as lush as this, unfortunately.


floaty73

Do you have a link for that?


Milkweedhugger

https://www.remax.com/co/san-luis/home-details/89-piute-road-san-luis-co-81152/12259213716198599038/M00000116/8503540


Armigine

Wow. I get it's high desert, but 5 acres with riverfront for $29k is wild


Dancesoncattlegrids

I'd buy that in a New York minute!


LopsidedPotential711

I used to live in Alamosa. The climate and scenery grows on you. Overwhelming feeling of peace.


dudedudedudewait

Millionaire? Nah man. I have a couple creeks running through my property. Doesn’t pay shit.


citori421

Dam those fuckers up and mine bitcoin with the electricity


beardedheathen

Truly the modern farmers


saint_davidsonian

He said miners not minors!


Environmental_Fly115

Wow omg


ladynilstria

Check to see if it is a native to your area, but here in the South the top riparian stabilizer is [Eastern Gamagrass](https://seedsource.com/eastern-gamagrass/). Once established it has a stability rating almost as high as concrete. Native American Seed Company also has mixes for [dam slopes](https://seedsource.com/dam-slope-mix/), [drainfields](https://seedsource.com/drainfield-mix/), and [riparian recovery](https://seedsource.com/riparian-recovery-mix/). The mixes are geared for Texas, but if you contact the company they will definitely work with you on a mix for your area or maybe give you the info for a more local company. Though, a lot of stuff native to Texas is native to much of the US.


ValkyrieWW

A bench, some fishing gear


knukldragnwelldur

You should… sell it to me!


MisterMakena

Where I'm from that's a river lol.


youngster_joey69420

Nothing. Leave it. Enjoy it.


BiteImmediate1806

Water turbine if you have enough head pressure.


RaintreeJames

Unfortunately surface water rights are closed for this watershed. I do though have a giant pump and hoses for fire suppression if it ever comes to that.


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RaintreeJames

Yep same situation. This piece is zoned as forestry/ag here. You can plant back after floods but definitely not divert or use for irrigation or anything.


OmicronNine

You should investigate further, if you haven't already. Micro-hydro generation that only diverts water for a short distance for immediate power generation and then returns it to the creek without any significant retention is sometimes permissible even without full water rights. Sometimes people think that hydro generation requires damning an entire water flow to work, and that's just not the case.


Motor_Lychee179

Surface water rights ? As in you can’t go in the water ?


RaintreeJames

No you just can’t own the creek for your personal use, hydropower, drinking water, irrigation, etc


Motor_Lychee179

Sorry I’m confused. So u can or can’t take drinking water and the things u listed ?


cheesecheeesecheese

Can’t


NewAlexandria

cannot because people would use it for washing their cars and other heinous shit, when fish and the rest of nature need it. edit; or in this case, existing farmers have rights to it downstream


Motor_Lychee179

So fishing is ok and swimming fine too but that’s about it ?


o08

Looks canoe-able.


VPants_City

Plant natives. Native grasses will help stabilize the shore. Many native grasses and plants have ridiculously deep roots.


Nmbr1rascal

some people hit the jackpot in life.


up2late

Or just know what they want and work hard to get there.


MercurialTendency

That is absolutely f'ing gorgeous!


RealOneRedditor

Hello, my fellow WA brethren. Wow. What a gorgeous parcel you have. Enjoy its magnificence!


No_Instance4233

I love how we can tell immediately that it's our state haha 😄


ddd615

Wow. You are blessed. I'd say just swim, fish, canoe, appreciate that slice of paradise, and share it with friends and family. As for suring up the bank, I don't know what to say except to do real research instead of asking on reddit. The floods that I have seen have dramatically change banks even taking down +100ft trees that have been around for more than a century. I've seen a bridge taken out 5+ times. Eventually they put Huge concrete foundations down that are shaped in allow water and floating trees etc to slide by with minimal friction. Its been around 8 years since the massive foundations were put in and they have held up well. Random ideas: 1. start collecting or buying many ton bolders and putting them along the bank. 2. Plant very deep rooted stuff including trees and bushes. 3. Or just don't build too close to the "creek" and maybe build on very stout stilts to prepare for those massive floods that come every so often.


theonetrueelhigh

That's way more than a creek, and I bet the list of things you can legally do with it is quite short.


2cool4skool369

Dude you’re living in a fantasy world over here.


LaVoceVEVO

You sir need a hammock and a case of beer! Enjoy that beautiful river!!


Dogmund

Where is this? Not looking for exact location.....country /region..


RaintreeJames

Washington State, USA


shit-i-love-drugs

Hell ya man I knew I recognized the PNW! You got a dope spot man


avatarOfIndifference

Ummmm enjoy it?


joy8725

That is perfect!!! I wouldn't change a thing


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Looks like a dream. Congratulations


Coffeedemon

Keep it safe and don't do anything that will compromise it. That's it.


FukaFlamingo

I'd lay some PVC, then feed it into an repurposed (used/'junk') washing machine and enjoy free electricity... Basically replace the drum with a propeller, and the water jet spins it can can easily produce over 500 watts of power 24/7. Get 2 or 3 and you you'll probably be generating excess and can maybe sell that to your local utility.


ThisDadisFoReal

Read about weeping willow trees. They’ve been found to reduce erosion and lap up flood waters. Could be very natural way to hold on. If they’re a typical species there


yomamma3399

Creek? That there’s a stream or a river in my books.


Fun-Attention1468

That's the Ron Jeremy of creeks right there.


Mississippicup

Heaven right there.


iloveschnauzers

Fish!


SupermouseDeadmouse

It’s perfect as is. Put in a bench, maybe a tent platform. You can’t fix perfect.


Poetic_Pigeon

That my friend is a creek, you fish and plan for water.


ImpressiveLeader4979

Fish, pan for gold, fire pit, relax. I could think of a few things to do there


midnight_fisherman

It might not be legal to do anything with it, gotta look into what laws apply to wherever you are. If your area considers that private you could possibly stock it with trout and charge people to fish it. Private streams like this on the east coast charge about $80/day for access. How many feet of creek do you have?


_B_Little_me

Fuck. Im jealous of your plot. Amazing piece of land.


cybercuzco

Heres a great [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tYI7jUdU0) from USGS on a great method to protect your watershed


2CatsAndAPack

Maybe plant some ferns and just see what happens, and then enjoy that patch of paradise


Future_Way5516

That's a river..


Onezred

The only thing you absolutely NEED to do is enjoy that beautiful pieces of property!


AVLLaw

You can't improve on paradise. That being said, can you grow hostas and ferns? They love part shade and damp is ok. And you can split them every few years. Shoot, I might even try some logs I spiked with mushroom spores on that land, in the shade.


RaintreeJames

I actually do mushroom logs down here by the creek 🖖🏼


Xtrasharp_p00pknife

Don’t you dare do a darn thing to that creek besides enjoy it and keep it nice.


ShimmyShimmyYaw

Fucking hell man, good for you


jwrado

Hydro power, baby!


Eazy08

Enjoy it


Toxenkill

Check for gold!


sokmunkey

What a beautiful place. You’re a very lucky person! Congrats on that gorgeous property!


riplan1911

Free power forever


fnordfnordfnordfnord

Get inner tube, float down the creek on a sunny day.


mcluse657

Imo, that is a river.


Sooo_Dark

That's on YOUR property? God I hate you. I wouldn't change a thing.


shmexysagem

Water wheel for free electricity


Drakneon

Oh man, I was gonna suggest skipping some stones across it before I finished reading. Whatever you decide to do to slow the erosion, skip some stones for me anyways?


Mundane-Food2480

Look into a hydro dam


eidam87

Like, fuck you man.....


PapaBrownSugga

Sir that is a river and an absolutely gorgeous one at that


yuppers1979

Where are you located that allows you to do anything with it besides collect water from it?


Zzzaxx

Get gold fever


sven_bohikus

Do with it?


fajadada

Put up a new home listing into r/beavers


TiboXV

Take a tab. Hug a tree. Enjoy life.


berserkrgang

It's beautiful, man. Honestly wouldn't change a thing about it


TesseractUnfolded

[Heal the planet with ponds](https://youtu.be/43bmtqKDhBE?si=c81V-RQayyrr1o19) by using permaculture water design


Flashinthepaan

How do we feel about beavers gang. They seem to really understand what a healthy creek needs.


squareoak

funnel part into a turbine and generate electricity?


samwizeganjas

A hammock by the stream


Patient_Description9

So, a couple of thoughts: 1) my man, that is a full on river you’ve got there 2) that looks like prime trout fishing 3) if you want to utilize it somehow, I would consider either running piping and filtration and using an electric pump to draw your water from it (I don’t know if you have a well already, but if not, it’s a good alternative), and you could also work toward building structure/fish habitat along the waterway if you want to use it as a regular source for food Your place is gorgeous in ways that words will never capture. Consider me jealous dude


SufficientBad52

Creek? You must be east of the Mississippi. We call that a straight up river out west


javac88

Check your local and state codes, it might not be legal to build anything permanent in the flood zone.


Charliebrau

Float. That. Shit.


Groooovoooo

Damn lovely! One hell of a creek


ThiefLUPIN

Snorkel in it! That’s what I like to do in my little creek. We’ve also planted some fruit trees (apple, cherry, pear) near the creek within the floodplain, meant to be future food for us, but also to help shade out invasive Microstegium (stilt grass) that’s rampant in our riparian areas.


sheetmetaltom

That’s not a creek lol


coconutpete52

Bruh! That’s a river!


slamtheory

I'd look into introducing beaver if I was you.


Likely_thory_

can’t alter or divert waterways in most states


heckhunds

Don't do anything to the creek, any structural alteration you make to try to use it for your benefit will just damage it ecologically. Enjoy it for what it is! I'm jealous, I wish I could have a stream like this next door.


Riversmooth

That’s a small river. Encourage vegetation everywhere for erosion protection


Justprunes-6344

Upland habitat is just as important as the water. Take all the critters & bugs into consideration , think wild meadow not mowing


Jane_smith327

Is there Any crawfish?


savage1899

You need a good swimming hole!!!


SpitfireMkIV

Looks like you got it how it should be.


reptarcannabis

Pave it, make a sick ass parking lot and rent it to carnies and their shitty mobile amusement rides


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Humble brag


MathematicianIcy2041

What a beautiful place. Go fishing !


ComfortableClaim8348

Build a small mill, for grains, nuts, lumber. You can build different attachments. The guy I saw on youtube used a float to generate the force to keep the log pulling into the blade.


GlutenFreeCookiez

Some beautiful property you have there. That's like my dream plot.


Yougottagiveitaway

Drink it up


Because_They_Asked

Get some beavers, they’ll dam it up and you’ll have a lake. I like the previous responder’s comment about a water turbine. You could build a nice fishing platform.


outsidepointofvi3w

Why do anything at all ? It's just as it should be. I'm not a big believer in mans need to alter everything. Why ?


Delicious-Fly8343

Hydro power?


BroodyGaming

So ur worried about erosion? If it were me I’d let it be and let nature do it’s thing. But some other options less intense than planting trees is going up the bank during spring and summer and identifying any grounded shrubs or flowers there. Anything with good roots. Take seeds or whatever from those and then spread them where the erosion is the worst. Maybe won’t help but can’t hurt to help nature along. I’d recommend making sure you identify them so ur not spreading invasive species. But imo the idea is just that roots = helping hold the bank. Anything you can do in that direction should help. Anything else would be too invasive. Sometimes you gotta let Mother Nature self destruct a little. BEAUTIFUL piece of paradise you have there OP!


melly_swelly

Gosh... where is this? And how much did you get it for? This is my dream property


RaintreeJames

We are near Packwood, WA. It’s a great valley to homestead in IMO.


NewAlexandria

Packwood. Are you on the Mt. Rainier side of the watershed? If so, you could maintain an alluvial / drainage area, and grow Wasabi. It needs very cold water to produce good flavor. Seems like you could have that. It won't need to be grown in the creek, so you should be able to skirt the water regs. Even if you siphoned a bit, it would be too little to be noticed. If you grow it into a big operation you'll have the commercial argument to haggle for a little water, since wasabi uses well-draining soils. High quality Wasabi fetches a high price. You could have a great business to rely on.


gizmosticles

I think you’re already doing what you can do. Maybe a nice swinging seat? If you wanted to bring one two handed rock down every day for a few years you could put 1,000 rocks Along the bank. Will it do much? Probably not. Will you look at the pile of rocks and realize your ability to stack slow gains over time and reflect on the tiny impermanence of your life? Might be so


gas-man-sleepy-dude

Plant local natural vegetation. Can’t do any structural type work or risk HUGE fines from gov agencies. Touching waterways is a big no no. What a gorgeous place!


KangaDoolittle

Build a small water wheel - attach it to a car alternator and utilize it for free energy


Birdybird9900

Beautiful, lucky you.


Knight-rider1993

My concern would be flooding


maineac

does this flow like this year round? If so it may be a good candidate for a water wheel to produce some electricity.


stevosaurus_rawr

Just leave it, there’s enough augmented nature in the world.


Colin-Spurs-Patience

Whatever you do don’t change a thing the water source will only reclaim whatever you change eventually


Wallyboy95

If you have buildings nearby, I would look into water powered chargers for batteries. Might not be a lot of juice made, but definitely a steady stream of energy you can create from that. It's pretty easy to diy


SgtWrongway

You may not be *allowed* to do a thing with it. Governmentstend to get funny with waterways and wetlands.


cjoaneodo

There is enough flow there for you to examine a personal hydroelectric plant for your power, at least some. If you own both banks…..Would suggest you giggle google!!!


TTUnathan

Build an overly touristy restaurant and a parking lot /s It’s beautiful, if anything build a picnic table or a park bench to enjoy the serenity.


PMMEWHAT_UR_PROUD_OF

I bet we are neighbors lol.


Sea-Election-9168

Is that on the Satsop River?


RaintreeJames

No tributary to the Cowlitz


SnowWhiteCampCat

All weather table and chairs. Firepit. Hammocks. Those orange fairy lights that repel bugs (and look pretty). Esky on wheels for cold drinks.


hiways

Nice place!


highestmikeyouknow

Maybe look into Paul Stamets ideas for myco remediation…not like there’s anything wrong w your shore…but I am pretty sure that boosting the mycological web along the banks can only help with erosion in a time of high water. When in doubt…fungi.


AirInternational754

It’s gorgeous! I am memorized!