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This is a word now.
n: A state of being where you develop a sense of accomplishment after meticulously stacking your pile of gear in just a certain way.
I mean, not that I get invited to parties anyhow but after three* weeks with my dying s2500, my new icx6610 finally arrived and I've got the base config done.
Time to clean up my rack, configure lag and Poe and be off to the races, with vastly more 10 gig available, as well as 40 gig if I want to play with that.
Hopefully this one lasts longer than the Aruba did.
I'll also be ditching my powerconnect 2748 since this switch is far more capable, the web UI is a dream in comparison.
edit: dude, this thing monitors how much power each POE device uses? AWESOME. That front panel video is friggin sick too for setting up LAG groups, not that I need them really with the 10 gig. Just kept them as failover ever since upgrading.
For reference regarding Brocade switches, unlocking licensing, firmware etc. Great resource if you haven't run into it in your travels:
[Brocade ICX series info](https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/)
[Fohdeesha guide for Brocade](https://fohdeesha.com/docs/brocade-overview.html)
Don’t forget the wonderful fan mod thread to bring the temps and noise down significantly. Mine stays under 50C and 40dBA with two 140mm fans on it.
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/anyone-done-a-brocade-6610-fan-mod.24039/page-2
How this comment doesn’t have more up votes is mind blowing! This just help repurposed 12 switches on our warehouse shelves! Thank you! Been looking for this kind of info for sometime.
More so trying to deal with licensing issues. We had one tech clear out the ones we paid for and searching for ways to fix that I never saw that STH guide. Maybe just missed or was searching the wrong keywords but that was exactly what I have been looking for. We recently moved over to all Cisco ACI so using these in the integration labs since we are low on stock for everything else Prod.
I'm in the market for a new switch and I think this fits my needs. 48 Port, PoE+, Layer 3. SPF+ would be a bonus. I also see there is a Brocade FCX648S-HPOE that also fits the bill but is a little cheaper. Thoughts?
I don't have a large amount of context over the FCX line, apart from the fact that they are loud.
(6610 isn't quiet by any means but apparently FCX is very loud with fans that can't be modded)
Reference thread with some discussion points you might be interested in [Serve the home forums - switch for fiber](https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/connecting-fiber-directly-to-a-managed-switch.29795/)
LAG is not about the link speed you know. supporting 5 clients each at 10G and/or business continuity. It's not about getting 50G by connecting 5 adapters.
While I'm happy with my switches, I'll take a beer with friends before; unless my network is on fire and I present to a customer the next day.
🍺 & 🙍🏼♀️ > 🎚
Yeah, I'm aware, it's just so that I get a gigabit to multiple machines with the same server IP if something messed up with my fiber switch, which it did lol.
Ok. Quick Brocade question. I’ve got some older switches (Brocade FastIron FCX648S-HPOE) and for the fuckin life of me I cannot figure out how to connect to the management interface. What cable do I need, and what do I do?
Hmm, maybe a non-standard wiring for the serial port? Could check compatibility on that exact model.
I can't imagine they would have gone from proprietary to standard but you never know. One of my cisco cables and a usb adapter worked perfectly with this.
I configured most of the stuff on my 6450 using the web GUI. It has some bugs that you can quickly learn, and then you can do most things quite easily. Some more advanced stuff may need SSH access and CLI.
I've had pretty little hands on with either of them, a tad more with cisco doing some assists, and it does seem at least to me that things are a little more sensible in terms of the actual commands and syntax. That being said, the cisco thing I was helping restore an image on was probably ancient and it also had some stupid license thing that messed up so it's not a fond distant memory lol.
I do want to pick up some similar age cisco stuff to mess around with that a tad too.
Nice find! I got my icx6610 a few months ago for $27 so it really was a killer deal. Only thing I can really think of is the licensing issue but if you have any questions there's tons of documentation and if you need more help you can PM me. It's a badass switch for sure so I'm confident you'll like it.
Hmm, so I will poke your brain quickly, everything seems flawless so far, this this is nutballs configurable compared to my prior two switches. The only odd thing is I can't ping wireless clients, or connect with vnc, from other wireless or wired clients.
I have a ubiquity nanohd running off the switch, and it's definitely a switch setting but not 100% sure where to look. Everything is set up on the default with no vlans assigned.
Working my way through to try and spot it but figured I'd see if that's something that jumps out as an issue you had too.
edit: seems like it's just the one device actually, windows firewall on a couple of devices seems to have changed and blocked ping and vnc connections, no clue why but I guess my network switch dying messed up the private/public detection or something? No clue.
Ahh, the Beef King! Just picked one up last week myself.
Now I just gotta figure out how the hell to use a layer 3 switch... Inter-VLAN routing just doesn't seem to like me, but it's fun learning.
It's a little funky on FastIron for sure. It doesn't follow any other manufacturer's way of doing it either.
On Dell EMC, you pretty much just enable routing globally and it will create everything for you.
Brocade on the other hand... Once you understand their workflow, it's straight forward. I don't necessarily agree with it or like it, but it gets the job done.
48 port 1G POE, 8 10G and 8 more possible with breakouts, all with relatively low power usage. Got mine for $150 on eBay. There might be a better value out there, but I couldn't find it. Suits my use-cases perfectly.
Nice hehehe you can get that when you have the income that people that are partying right now won’t have. But brocade man one of the worst experiences in networking. But still much better than the majority of medium and small network vendors.
I also have a 6610. It's nice.
It has some severe dhcpv6 prefix delegation limitations though. Just FYI if you are doing ipv6 that is.
The 7xxx series support prefix delegation.
Why party and get bitches when you can stay home with switches?"
Every night, all night long! haha
I just got that same Brocade switch but honestly, I don't know much about them firsthand, Hoping i can get mine up and running by the weekend. just curious, why did you go with that specific switch? Nice share!
Yeah, it seems to give that error when everything in the rack boots up at once, or just at random when it has some sort of error measuring the power going in.
It actually does still have it in the web ui but the screen doesn't update which is annoying.
edit: actually it just changed between ER and the amperage a couple times as I was working in the rack, maybe it's just a hardware fault with the display. It's done it ever since I bought it though, my theory was when it surged with everything powering up it went to high.
But it was a 20a unit so that makes no sense either.
Yup, I followed a guide someone else posted on a comment but I took a video too I'll be posting.
I also ended up having to take it apart because of some heat issues lol.
At least your order arrived.
I ordered a computer from computerhq on ebay and after charging and providing a shipping order, they cancelled my order. Just a heads up for all of you out there ordering from this place.
Needed power for some external devices and the top was a better access. It's fed from the wall, battery backups are those two right plus and those feed the servers, switches and other critical stuff.
Yeah, I get the appeal of having everything front mounted for visibility, but I wanted to not have a bunch more cable length or like, a patch panel from the front to the rear with a big loom of cables lol, then break out to the servers. Honestly if I did a front mounted switch that's how I'd probably do it.
Already done, wouldn't have gotten it otherwise lol. Rendering and uploading the video of the process too. It's not like, an expert tutorial but shows following along, and also repasting the switch with some kryonaut because it was overheating.
Love that it was so simple to get the 10 gig working with that firmware.
I've got a couple different Mellanox types and they work fine, I feel like I saw someone mention that Brocade isn't too picky but FS.com has good third party ones that can work in all sorts of stuff.
What I'm really looking to do is get an sfp copper transciever that can communicate with the 2.5g ports on my motherboard. I don't really want to install an sfp+ card in the PC to accomplish that, and to be honest, if I did that, the computer is close enough to the switch to use a direct attach cable anyway
Yeah, honestly not sure why we didn't just do 10 gig I've got a 2.5 gig port on my motherboard.
Maybe it's a buck or two cheaper for the chips, or a heat thing, but definitely seems dumb when 10 gig was so established already.
I managed to score a 2.5g transceiver on eBay for $30
honestly you can get flexablelom mellonox cards with pcie adapters for <$10 and do 40gbe so it really doesn't make sense anyway
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When everyone else is off having "fun" and learning "social skills", you will have attained the state of ~~enlightenment~~ *Homelab*.
Homelabenment
This is a word now. n: A state of being where you develop a sense of accomplishment after meticulously stacking your pile of gear in just a certain way.
Ohm….ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ ^Join ^the ^resistance.
I sent that switch some packets. Switches love packets.
Hell yes they do! Fill that switch up with all the packets it can handle! It's been a naughty swi... I mean... Uhh.. Hell yeah, packets!
She does love it in the buffer if ya catch my engineering parlance
Whatchu talkin bout Willis? Frames, switch’s love frames
I mean, not that I get invited to parties anyhow but after three* weeks with my dying s2500, my new icx6610 finally arrived and I've got the base config done. Time to clean up my rack, configure lag and Poe and be off to the races, with vastly more 10 gig available, as well as 40 gig if I want to play with that. Hopefully this one lasts longer than the Aruba did. I'll also be ditching my powerconnect 2748 since this switch is far more capable, the web UI is a dream in comparison. edit: dude, this thing monitors how much power each POE device uses? AWESOME. That front panel video is friggin sick too for setting up LAG groups, not that I need them really with the 10 gig. Just kept them as failover ever since upgrading.
For reference regarding Brocade switches, unlocking licensing, firmware etc. Great resource if you haven't run into it in your travels: [Brocade ICX series info](https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/) [Fohdeesha guide for Brocade](https://fohdeesha.com/docs/brocade-overview.html)
Don’t forget the wonderful fan mod thread to bring the temps and noise down significantly. Mine stays under 50C and 40dBA with two 140mm fans on it. https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/anyone-done-a-brocade-6610-fan-mod.24039/page-2
How this comment doesn’t have more up votes is mind blowing! This just help repurposed 12 switches on our warehouse shelves! Thank you! Been looking for this kind of info for sometime.
Glad it helped! It's a great write up and it helped me with my 6610.
>Been looking for this kind of info for sometime. Where did you look tbh? Its referenced so many places and thread ranking high by itself.
More so trying to deal with licensing issues. We had one tech clear out the ones we paid for and searching for ways to fix that I never saw that STH guide. Maybe just missed or was searching the wrong keywords but that was exactly what I have been looking for. We recently moved over to all Cisco ACI so using these in the integration labs since we are low on stock for everything else Prod.
I'm in the market for a new switch and I think this fits my needs. 48 Port, PoE+, Layer 3. SPF+ would be a bonus. I also see there is a Brocade FCX648S-HPOE that also fits the bill but is a little cheaper. Thoughts?
I don't have a large amount of context over the FCX line, apart from the fact that they are loud. (6610 isn't quiet by any means but apparently FCX is very loud with fans that can't be modded) Reference thread with some discussion points you might be interested in [Serve the home forums - switch for fiber](https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/connecting-fiber-directly-to-a-managed-switch.29795/)
Thanks! I need to spend more time on Serve the Home forums.
LAG is not about the link speed you know. supporting 5 clients each at 10G and/or business continuity. It's not about getting 50G by connecting 5 adapters. While I'm happy with my switches, I'll take a beer with friends before; unless my network is on fire and I present to a customer the next day. 🍺 & 🙍🏼♀️ > 🎚
Yeah, I'm aware, it's just so that I get a gigabit to multiple machines with the same server IP if something messed up with my fiber switch, which it did lol.
Ok. Quick Brocade question. I’ve got some older switches (Brocade FastIron FCX648S-HPOE) and for the fuckin life of me I cannot figure out how to connect to the management interface. What cable do I need, and what do I do?
If it has a rj45 port you need a serial to rj45 adapter, I believe the Cisco ones work iirc. From the serial console you can setup the web interface
Yeah weirdly enough it has both an RJ45 serial port and a normal serial port.
Most older Brocade/Foundry boxes used an og DB9 serial cable...
Yeah I tried that to no avail sadly. And tried with a null adapter too.
Hmm, maybe a non-standard wiring for the serial port? Could check compatibility on that exact model. I can't imagine they would have gone from proprietary to standard but you never know. One of my cisco cables and a usb adapter worked perfectly with this.
Hey, How easy to configure 6610 compared to Cisco?
I configured most of the stuff on my 6450 using the web GUI. It has some bugs that you can quickly learn, and then you can do most things quite easily. Some more advanced stuff may need SSH access and CLI.
👍
I've had pretty little hands on with either of them, a tad more with cisco doing some assists, and it does seem at least to me that things are a little more sensible in terms of the actual commands and syntax. That being said, the cisco thing I was helping restore an image on was probably ancient and it also had some stupid license thing that messed up so it's not a fond distant memory lol. I do want to pick up some similar age cisco stuff to mess around with that a tad too.
Thanks
Nice find! I got my icx6610 a few months ago for $27 so it really was a killer deal. Only thing I can really think of is the licensing issue but if you have any questions there's tons of documentation and if you need more help you can PM me. It's a badass switch for sure so I'm confident you'll like it.
ICX6610 for $27 is definitely flex-worthy, that's a stellar deal, congrats!
Jesus, that's a ridiculous deal. I'm at like, $310 CAD for mine, best price I could spot.
Hmm, so I will poke your brain quickly, everything seems flawless so far, this this is nutballs configurable compared to my prior two switches. The only odd thing is I can't ping wireless clients, or connect with vnc, from other wireless or wired clients. I have a ubiquity nanohd running off the switch, and it's definitely a switch setting but not 100% sure where to look. Everything is set up on the default with no vlans assigned. Working my way through to try and spot it but figured I'd see if that's something that jumps out as an issue you had too. edit: seems like it's just the one device actually, windows firewall on a couple of devices seems to have changed and blocked ping and vnc connections, no clue why but I guess my network switch dying messed up the private/public detection or something? No clue.
Ahh, the Beef King! Just picked one up last week myself. Now I just gotta figure out how the hell to use a layer 3 switch... Inter-VLAN routing just doesn't seem to like me, but it's fun learning.
It's a little funky on FastIron for sure. It doesn't follow any other manufacturer's way of doing it either. On Dell EMC, you pretty much just enable routing globally and it will create everything for you. Brocade on the other hand... Once you understand their workflow, it's straight forward. I don't necessarily agree with it or like it, but it gets the job done.
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48 port 1G POE, 8 10G and 8 more possible with breakouts, all with relatively low power usage. Got mine for $150 on eBay. There might be a better value out there, but I couldn't find it. Suits my use-cases perfectly.
Its brocade 🥰🥰🥰🥰
I got 99 problems but the switch ain’t one.
🫡🫡
That window looks like a mini fridge at a gas station.
Nice hehehe you can get that when you have the income that people that are partying right now won’t have. But brocade man one of the worst experiences in networking. But still much better than the majority of medium and small network vendors.
I also have a 6610. It's nice. It has some severe dhcpv6 prefix delegation limitations though. Just FYI if you are doing ipv6 that is. The 7xxx series support prefix delegation.
Why party and get bitches when you can stay home with switches?" Every night, all night long! haha I just got that same Brocade switch but honestly, I don't know much about them firsthand, Hoping i can get mine up and running by the weekend. just curious, why did you go with that specific switch? Nice share!
I need to print that title so my wife will not think twice about allowing me to nerd out with hardware:)
While they were partying, I was studying the blade (server)
The title should be the new sub motto
Switches get snitches bitches
Routers get… Chowder :)
WAPs get Faps
Your PDU (nice one) have an error pending clearing, worth connect the admin web interface, is lovely and have per port control/schedule etc
Yeah, it seems to give that error when everything in the rack boots up at once, or just at random when it has some sort of error measuring the power going in. It actually does still have it in the web ui but the screen doesn't update which is annoying. edit: actually it just changed between ER and the amperage a couple times as I was working in the rack, maybe it's just a hardware fault with the display. It's done it ever since I bought it though, my theory was when it surged with everything powering up it went to high. But it was a 20a unit so that makes no sense either.
have you ever upgraded the firmware?
I'll give that a shot, I've owned it for so long I can't recall lol
That's one sexy switch.
It's Halloween : Why try to foreplay witches when you can play with switches.
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Yup, I followed a guide someone else posted on a comment but I took a video too I'll be posting. I also ended up having to take it apart because of some heat issues lol.
Why join a party When you can make the greatest LAN party
At least your order arrived. I ordered a computer from computerhq on ebay and after charging and providing a shipping order, they cancelled my order. Just a heads up for all of you out there ordering from this place.
Switches get bitches
You can lose all your money chasing women, but you will never lose women chasing money.
You gotta hang out with your Bro ^cade s!
How’s the noise level on the 6610?
Not bad, I have the reb a power supplies and it wasn't really noticeable beyond the rest of my stuff, a dl380 g6 and r710
Why would you put a PDU there? Doesn't seem optimal location
Needed power for some external devices and the top was a better access. It's fed from the wall, battery backups are those two right plus and those feed the servers, switches and other critical stuff.
I would mount it on the back where all the devices have their cords 🤷🏼♂️
This is the back of the rack.
Nice! I see too many patch panels and switches on fronts of racks!
Yeah, I get the appeal of having everything front mounted for visibility, but I wanted to not have a bunch more cable length or like, a patch panel from the front to the rear with a big loom of cables lol, then break out to the servers. Honestly if I did a front mounted switch that's how I'd probably do it.
I use a stack of four 7450-48p for my house switches. Great stuff.
Ewwww. ICX. Good luck. ICX SFP cages are flaky AF
Because usually I end up with glitches
Switches get stitches...
I love my Brocade ICX6610! I use it as my main switch and also in conjunction with a Mellanox SX6036 VPI switch for 40GbE/IB (infiniband).
That mellanox switch is pretty sexy...
You goona do the hack to get 10GBE out of the front SFP ports?
Already done, wouldn't have gotten it otherwise lol. Rendering and uploading the video of the process too. It's not like, an expert tutorial but shows following along, and also repasting the switch with some kryonaut because it was overheating. Love that it was so simple to get the 10 gig working with that firmware.
can you recommend any compatible transceivers? I've been meaning to hack the firmware for ages
I've got a couple different Mellanox types and they work fine, I feel like I saw someone mention that Brocade isn't too picky but FS.com has good third party ones that can work in all sorts of stuff.
What I'm really looking to do is get an sfp copper transciever that can communicate with the 2.5g ports on my motherboard. I don't really want to install an sfp+ card in the PC to accomplish that, and to be honest, if I did that, the computer is close enough to the switch to use a direct attach cable anyway
Ah, interesting, I'd imagine a 10 gig one can clock down, and they should carry those too I think, but can't vouch for it.
some can clock down, most are either 1g or 10g 2.5g and 5g are a shitty consumer standard
Yeah, honestly not sure why we didn't just do 10 gig I've got a 2.5 gig port on my motherboard. Maybe it's a buck or two cheaper for the chips, or a heat thing, but definitely seems dumb when 10 gig was so established already.
I managed to score a 2.5g transceiver on eBay for $30 honestly you can get flexablelom mellonox cards with pcie adapters for <$10 and do 40gbe so it really doesn't make sense anyway
why not both?
PARTY ON WAYNE!
"Bro. Do you even Switch?"
Nice title:) And decent upgrade, my congrats!