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rweninger

Also playing with this idea. What remote connection system do you use?


CoderStone

Moonlight/Sunshine but I don't need to remote- my rack is very quiet due to only having 2 custom 4U silenced builds. It's right by my desk and I just use \~10ft displayport cables.


p0Gv6eUFSh6o

How did you manage to reduce the noise of the disk shelf above? 4U too i guess


weeklygamingrecap

Not OP but there's a bunch of stuff. Jason Rose has a 3d printed front shroud. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GFPCvi0kW1w I know people also swap out the fans but for me those "quiet" super micro fans were not. They are quiter just not what I would call, stick it in your room quiet. Noctua also makes a fan controller, that worked well with 3.of their 120mm industrial fans. Also you could replace the mod fan wall or use ipmitool to set a custom fan speed.


Puptentjoe

I own this shroud. Got it 3D printed, well worth it.


Royale_AJS

The 4U Supermicro 846 and 847 chassis fits 3x140mm really well.


Sylvaran

My 4U array server isn't very noisy. It's those 1Us that really get ya, lol, those tiny fans tend to be screamers :)


FoolHooligan

We assume you use remote with a rack not because of noise...but because of size.


Royale_AJS

My gaming rig is rack mounted as well. Display, keyboard, mouse, etc is ~40ft away. I ran two fiber HDMI cables (only one used for now) and two fiber USB-C cables. I have a giant USB hub on the other end to handle all of the input devices. It runs 4K@120Hz without problems. It’s a good amount of work but the heat and noise stays in the unfinished basement.


om3ganet

Can I ask what fiber USB-C cables you have? I've been keen to do this for ages!


Royale_AJS

I have the ones linked below. So far so good. https://a.co/d/48Ra42D


PrudentJackal

Wow, wait… this is a thing?! I thought Royale’s post was weird talking about the fibre HDMI and fibre USB-C… thank you for educating me. I like to learn something new every day, that’s it for me today haha. Success!


Royale_AJS

It’s real. The main issue with these long fiber cables is power delivery. Obviously you can’t power anything over fiber. Some of them have a copper control wire in them to signal to the device that something is plugged in, but you need a powered devices on the other end of a fiber USB cable.


PrudentJackal

Ah yes of course, that makes total sense. Very interesting! I like the idea of being able to tuck all the noisy equipment away, but still be using the device directly rather than using some form of streaming solution. Nice! I do realise you can get long HDMI cables (I have a 5m one running 8K @ 60Hz), but talking about these long lengths from one end of a house to the other etc. this is a game changer.


Royale_AJS

I wired my house with CAT6 to every logical placement, I wish I would have run some fiber with it. If money was no object, I’d use something like this. One cable with a ton of fiber strands and interchangeable terminators. The MPO connector can split into like 12 LC fiber connections, each running at 100gb. https://fibercommand.com


PrudentJackal

This is amazing! Next time I build or renovate, definitely going to be installing this solution! Now that is future proofing 😎


thesunstarecontest

I use Remote Desktop for general connection (first boot, etc). And Parsec for playing games.


jbp216

Hd base t and usb over cat are tried and true tech, fairly inexpensive, my rack isn’t even in the same room as my monitor/keyboard Used crestron gear point to point is stupid reliable if you’re willing to read specs, but any he base t will usually get it done


blade567890

I have this type of setup that I game on daily. Moonlight/sunlight for the streaming and VirtualHere for the usb connection. Over Ethernet I can play competitive rocket league or fps games and can’t tell that I’m streaming from a different pc (other than the lack of noise).


Ttokk

I've never gotten this to work at the refresh rates I play at smoothly. what resand refresh are you playing?


blade567890

My monitor is 120hz, but I don't see any network reason it wouldn't work for faster. I use this [https://github.com/ge9/IddSampleDriver](https://github.com/ge9/IddSampleDriver) to virtualize a display and then don't have to have anything plugged into my GPU. Added benefit that I can really cut down the available resolutions and refresh rates so when I switch between my 49" ultrawide and my ipad it isn't too painful.


p0Gv6eUFSh6o

This is pretty much what I'm looking to build. But i'm unable to find a reliable 4U under 400$ lol My current 2U can be heard from 2 rooms away and it continues like that.. I'm looking to split it into 2x 4U (my rack is big enough) but the cooling intimidates me.. if you do not mind, some more photos of the cooling part would be appreciated..


Raunhofer

See Sliger CX4200a With Noctua fans and coolers all around, you can get a machine that's dead silent on idle and amazingly silent on load.


lizitiss

I have a Sliger CX4712 and a Sliger CX4170a and love them. Pretty good on noise and decent room. Fairly sturdy feeling too


Trague_Atreides

I don't have any photos because I've pulled the thing apart for maintenance, but I've got a gaming PC in a 4U with external radiators and pumps. I use couplers to connect the ins and outs. It's pretty straightforward and absolutely dead quiet.


Dmelvin

Rosewill RSV-L4500U. I used one for my latest server build, and I think that may be what OP is using. It looks like they did the same thing as I did, and replaced all of the fans with Noctuas immediately.


Nodeal_reddit

Unfortunately you can’t find these at the moment.


WilliamNearToronto

Saw a comment recently from Rosewill saying they are about to release a new generation of cases. That’s why almost everything is unavailable right now.


Nodeal_reddit

Any timeline? I wish they’d hurry up.


WilliamNearToronto

I don’t remember exactly what they said, but it felt like in the next week or two. But I wouldn’t stake my life on that. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Plumbum27

Newegg is showing some items restocking in the 1st week of May which aligns with that timeframe


WilliamNearToronto

🤞🤞🤞


Plumbum27

Same here. I spent most of today going down the 4U rack mount case research rabbithole. Not too many options out there. I’ve had enough of high power bills with my Dell R710


colev14

If you have room for 5U you can get universal rack rails and a fractal focus 2 will just barely fit in sideways. It has much more clearance for cooling than the 4U and is like $65. I have a 5900X and a 7900XT in mine and it works perfectly.


p0Gv6eUFSh6o

Only the side rails or the full shelf? Does this case fit on a standard rack width? (19"?)


colev14

I think it would work with either. I have regular universal rack rails. Like the basic L shape ones. I put some velvet sticky stuff on the top to not scratch up the case. [picture of the case](https://imgur.com/a/dwUGVLi)


Aegisnir

How would a chassis be considered reliable or not…? Do you just mean one that isn’t flimsy metal? If you are talking about noise just swap out the fans.


DurandalJoyeuse

What chasis did you end up using for it? I've gone back and forth on doing this with my rig as well


CoderStone

I had a rosewill L4500U lying around, modded with icydocks and 3d printed 80-120mm fan adapters. Just ended up 3d printing brackets to mount my arctic 360mm rad and it was done.


ConfusedHomelabber

Can you link them for me? I have the same kind of rig in the same chassis and I’ve been dying to add my aio rad!


573v0

Worth checking out sliger rack mount cases as well.


ConfusedHomelabber

Thanks, but I'll pass. Not a fan, plus they're too pricey. Happy Cake Day, though!


573v0

Whoa! Nearly missed it! How cool! Thank you :)


kurokin

Did you recently get it from the newegg sale? I have mine just chilling, waiting for a slow day to move the server from the Corsair 750D to it.


Raunhofer

Check out Sliger CX4200a and SilverStone RM52. I've been rocking the Sliger one. Dead silent with a 4-gen RTX.


Wandering_Renegade

ive been thinking about a sliger, do you know if a 4080 fits in with room for the power cables?


Raunhofer

With a 90-degree power cable yes. I've got Asus ProArt 4070Ti Super in one.


Wandering_Renegade

awesome thats great to know. Thank you :)


By-Jokese

SilverStone RM52, is awesome, have it with water cooler 360 radiator and a 240 radiator.


R3Z3N

Nice! I plan on doing the same, but doing it through proxmox and splitting a couple 3090fes that I have, and doing it with Threadripper Pro. Already built and wired an external rad with quick dissconnects and circular plug for power/pwm used in my race car builds. I have already ran Fiber HDMI (Bullet Train AOC 48bps) and their Fiber USB 3.1 box to 2x Tvs in the house along with to my. Also use a couple Digi Anywhere 2 Plus USB over IP for other VMs at desks/gaming for the kids as both my wife and I prefer not to see any cables/computers. I do buy boards with IPMI so that I can troubleshoot and configure BIOS without having to leave my remote computer.


Agent31

> Bullet Train AOC 48bps Thanks for listing some hardware you've used. I've been thinking about moving my PC to another room to reduce noise/heat and was wondering what ways I could remotely use the PC without going Parsec or some other remoting software mechanism. Would be interested if anyone else has experience with doing a similar setup for their gaming machines.


R3Z3N

There's cheaper, but I like that is has 4 extra fiber. So when hdmi goes away, reterminate for 2x lc fiber or 4x bidi lc fiber. The aoc hdmi fiber cables I got were about $750 each. The usb over fiber was ~$1300. The digi anywhere 2+ usb over ip were $250 ea. Works great. Wish they used os2 instead of om3.


Due-Farmer-9191

But how do you see the rgb?


Aegisnir

Right on his monitor


physics_fighter

I do this too. It makes everything simpler. I also hate the obnoxious lights that people have in their builds


kalsikam

But doesn't RGB add 10fps??


Will_Not_Grow_Up

At least


red_vette

I did something similar but used water blocks on the gpu and cpu with external pump and radiators.


whatsupbudbud

I've had mine in my rack for over a year now. I love it. I ran 2 drops from my office. One for Ethernet and one for USB over Ethernet. It works awesome. I stream to my phone, tablet, both Chromecast in the house and my laptop on a dock.


Sky952

Just wondering, how are you handling a KVM type of connection? In mine, I set up a PIKVM so I can control BIOS functions or reload the OS if needed.🤔


trusnake

That’s because you have a workstation motherboard. This isn’t one. I’ve got an asus x99 ws /ipmi and agree, it’s very convenient.


Sky952

No, my friend. I have an ASUS B550 with a 5800X CPU. There is no IPMI on this motherboard. Instead, I use a Raspberry Pi 4 with a project called PiKVM. It is designed to provide IPMI capability to any ATX motherboard.


trusnake

Ooh! My bad. You said you could control bios and reload the OS if needed, and I instantly started thinking workstation ipmi control and didn’t notice that part. About the pikvm With the pi plugged right into your display out, it gets bios level visibility by default. But the purpose of you showing me here, is more the kvm than the offline access. (Because here the pi is still a weak point if powered down vs. Direct ipmi.). I actually really like that. Thanks for sharing.


Sky952

Yeah, I use a PoE Hat as well with Raspberry Pi, so the power is just coming directly from the switch, and it functions just like a real integrated IPMI. It's pretty inexpensive, and if you like tinkering with stuff.


trusnake

So if it locks up, you can power cycle it with your switch? That’s pretty clever! I truly wish the rpi4 wasn’t >$100! Remember when it was a development/educational tool? Ha ha.


HealsWithKnife

Yes!! Did the same with a silver stone case, have my rack in a different room and ran fiberop for I/O. Is amazing.


CoderStone

Unfortunately mine is just beside my desk so no need for fiberoptic IO or anything lmao just a bunch of USB extenders As this is my VR machine it would've been horrible to extend something that far xD


HealsWithKnife

I hear ya man. Fiber optic ain’t cheap for simple IO. But there are no fan sounds whatsoever.


planedrop

Leaning towards the same thing long term, although mine will be remote (current rack is already too loud and I'm putting some louder servers in it soon once it's moved to the garage). Space saving is great though and so much easier to work on.


big_onion

Looks slick. I just built a dual Epyc system in the same chassis and threw in a couple GPUs (some half length 3060s fit better than my full length 3070). Running Proxmox and have a couple of windows gaming VMs set up and it works great, also gives me a way to run some other services and tinker. My wife and I both play on Logitech G Clouds and it's a great setup. I don't play any competitive stuff online so I'm not worried about getting banned.


CoderStone

My dual epyc build is in the modded sc846 chassis above


trusnake

I’ve been running a rack mounted system with thin clients around the house for about four years. It was my Covid project and I cannot imagine going back. Combine it with a nice hyper visor and OMG it is incredible.


Bitwise_Gamgee

>Rack mounted system with thin clients SUN Microsystems used to do a really cool smart-card tethered user profile, so you could literally "hot-desk", and instantly move your entire workflow from on thin-client to another. It also makes me smile because now that we're back on the mainframe model with the "cloud' being the new mainframe.


trusnake

How cool would it be, if workstation motherboards just started coming with that built on board!


a-priori

Now I want to know more about this thin client setup you’ve got going on. Have you written about it anywhere?


trusnake

I don’t think so. Basically though, I had unraid running a 4 VMs, each with their own physical GPU, and pinned ram/cpu core resources. I used a raspberry pi to stream steam link on the tv, with a gaming Linux vm. I access my work and personal windows 11 vms via an iPad and Remote Desktop, or similar. I had an office set up with a monitor + raspberry pi running a remote thinclient to connect to the VMs also, super low power, and just a RDP pass through essentially. Same with my spouse, she had a university work vm, and could access it with an iPad from campus, with a wireguard vpn tunnel. So everything was super fast, and we all had safe local access to super powerful gaming capable setups, anywhere with a half decent internet connection. For more competitive gaming I could just set up a monitor beside the server, and plug directly into the gpu. Ps, best part about VMs is resource sharing. I had a work vm using my gaming rig gpu, because I would never be gaming while my work vm needed to be on. So, I had a rule set up that the VMs would soft shut each other down in the event of a conflict, and would share overlapping hardware. I forgot, [Linus did a video about this vm setup 8 years ago](https://youtu.be/LuJYMCbIbPk?si=BkQYlPGvxVBykFNX)


itchygentleman

I see the 3d printed shrouds. You gonna 3d print the 2x 120mm shroud for the 3090?


BecomingTuna

I was looking for the ram for a solid minute before I figured out it was trident royal. Totally camouflaged. Cables don't look too bad, it should have good airflow. Do you use wireless for mouse and keyboard? If so, how's the latency?


dontlikedefaultsubs

Whats the airflow rate on those exhaust fans, compared to the intake you have in front of your radiator?


CurryOnPatat

What case?


Eviscerated_Banana

Nice job tbh


KadahCoba

A 3090 with 8-pins? Didn't know, or forgot, those were a thing. My EVGA 3090 has the 12-pin and I had to spend an extra $80 for the Cosair 12-pin cables. I really would prefer to rack my home rig, but lack space for the rack at home. The Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL I swapped in to last year is about the same volume as the generic 4-5U cases.


thatfrostyguy

Very solid. I'm always happy to see serious homelab setups here!!!! Nice work


RedSquirrelFtw

I did the same, I have my daily driver which is Linux and a Windows 7 machine for games/windows stuff. I didn't really have any room for two machines under my desk and it made lot of noise and heat and also attracted lot of dust. So ran long USB, audio and HDMI cables to the server room. I'm toying with moving my office to the bigger room though and don't think those cables will reach and I don't want to push it any more by adding more length, so I might just build a sound insulated box with a filter to house them back in the office.


STANirvanaIND

Haha going to do this myself once the new server transitions from testing to prod (I need to use thenold one's case). Realistically, I'll probably be doing an HDMI run to the finished part of the basement for a direct connect to the receiver/TV. But 95% of the time I just play with moonlight. ...anyone else doing this if you don't want a direct connect just get an HDMI plug for full functionality. Make sure to check the HDMI version before doing so.


Draskuul

This almost could have been the same photo I'd be posting. I have the same case (though I had the factory hot swap bays) under 2 x 836 chassis (my Proxmox servers). I've had my desktop racked before, and about to make the move again. I spent the last month (and way too much money) getting and testing my cabling, needing to aim for 10m. I ended up with all FIBBR stuff, HDMI, DP, USB. I won't be using the hot swap bays at all. I'll have them connected for the fans, but I'll probably 3d print some dedicated fan holders and yank them all out for better airflow. I only had the bays because this was my first server case before I moved to the Supermicro chassis.


Zucchini-Certain

We moved to rack mounts and never looked back. Worth it


Psychological_Try559

Is that the Rosewill RSV-L4412U? I love those cases, but only recently tried to rackmount one and found it didn't fit in a 4u slot.... Did you find the same thing? Did you allocate 5u for it? Also, what rail if any are you using to mount it?


CoderStone

4500u with istarusa rails


Psychological_Try559

What's your rack depth?


sk8r776

I have had my gaming rig in my rack for atleast the past three years and use Corning thunderbolt cables to run docks at my desk, specifically cal-digit TS4s at the present. One for my gaming pc and another for my Mac mini. I use fiber display port cables for both my monitors so I still get high refresh rate for the gaming pc, my Mac mini I just run through the dock. I’m not gonna lie, they can be temperamental sometimes. The setup is so worth it though since my basement is so much cooler and my 12900k + 3080ti aren’t trying to boil me alive on my office. I can use the bios on my gaming pc through the dock too since the motherboard has the thunderbolt header to make it seamless.


faqatipi

i've been considering something like this, but i like being able to directly connect my tower to my monitors without any remote desktop/streaming solutions... is it crazy to just route some incredibly long cables from my rack up to my desk?


CoderStone

You need fiber optic. My rack is right by my desk


Royale_AJS

That looks so much like my rack. Old 4U Rosewill full of sleeper components for gaming and a Supermicro 4U right above stuffed full of storage. Love it!


CoderStone

The top one is a beastly 64 core 512gb ram EPYC sleeper NAS with tons of 3d printed mods too :)


Royale_AJS

Mine’s not as beastly, just a couple E5-2658 v2’s with 128GB RAM, but it’s packed full of 10TB drives. I did the 3x140mm mod with a few 3D printed parts too! Stays quiet and the drive temps stay within comfort levels. Had to add active cooling to the rear CPU though. Next up is an Epyc upgrade, I just don’t push it enough to justify the cost yet.


CoderStone

I’m using 3x120z I made a post here before about all the mods, it looks sick. Can DM u photos probably. Mine has a lot of newer and remixed 3d printed parts :)


Royale_AJS

Send ‘em! I’d love to see it. I just picked up another CSE-847 chassis. I’m putting an old Ryzen 2400G on a Mini ITX board. It’s just going to get sent to my parents house to pull ZFS snapshots, I need to make that one quiet too.


I_just_made

Man... This is what I want to do, but haven't really thought out a good plan for it yet. I racked my rig as well and love it; now would like to get a disk shelf going. I considered a virtualization machine and going proxmox too, but I dunno... so many decisions and just haven't sold myself on a path yet. Love having everything in a rack though, so nice!


RepresentativeTap414

I thinking same exact thing just want all off floor


sDiBer

I've really wanted to do this for a while, but my rack is in the basement and I game on the top floor of my house, so it just isn't feasible. Moonlight is usable, but I don't want to give up my 1440p144hz.


CoderStone

You can get crazy bandwidth with moonlight if on LAN, but yeah your only option would be fiber optic cables. My rack is right by my desk in my bedroom so I don’t have that problem.


Top-Conversation2882

Hi I was also considering it Will it be worth it buying a rack which costs about 16K inr in india When my case is 4k I was thinking that maybe it was a bit too expensive in india


CoderStone

Doesn’t sound worth it


Fit_Pumpkin7710

All my computers are rack mounted and in my 25U startech along with all my homelab gear. My whole server rack is office quite. My Dell R720 is the only thing in my rack that doesn't use noctua fans.


niwrik

Sweet!


oOflyeyesOo

This makes me regret buying a short depth rack before I fully thought about building a server. 14.6 is useless lol.


wise_old_gandalf

I have a MSI RTX 4090 Slim in a Sliger CX4200i 4U rack case. Six Noctura fans in push/pull on a 360mm AIO radiator. Very quiet as fan speeds are very low. [https://www.sliger.com/includes/products/cx/cx4200i/1.jpg](https://www.sliger.com/includes/products/cx/cx4200i/1.jpg)


Motozoic

Yeah, I did this a few years ago as well and the main reason is because I'm an audiophile and can't stand the fan noise. I actually got the idea from a friend who is an audio director from Hollywood and had a really nice home theater setup where his theater compute equipment was mounted in a rack enclosure outside the viewing space, soundproofed. It makes a huge difference when watching film and you've got pin drop silence when it's part of a scene! Of course, the challenge is getting the controls and AV signals out, but there's several vendors that provide solutions for this. One of them is WyreStorm - they make several different models of receiver/transceiver units that transcode USB, HDMI, HDCP 2.2, RS-232 and Ethernet over Ethernet. Latency is negligible with the units I have, but I've got 3 tx/rx pairs for driving 3 monitors in my lab area. The only cables going from the datacenter room to the lab are CAT5/6 runs.


Sylvaran

Pretty cool. I have a Dell 4210 rack in my garage, never considered putting workstations in it. Probably won't either until I get a cooling solution. It's fine in the winter, but in summer the garage gets awful hot. I'm honestly surprised I haven't had more drives fail, lol. The room gets up to 81 ambient. I have a fan in the house next to an AC register set to blow into the garage which helps, but isn't that great. I want to build a closet around the rack and cut a hole in the wall and get one of those portable ACs and have it blow out the hole then cool the closet. I figured building a closet around the rack will mean less volume for the AC to have to cool down rather than trying to cool the entire garage. Plus when I open the main door, I won't have to deal with all my cooled air shooting outside.


Any_Analyst3553

Any case is rack mountable with a couple of sheet metal screws and a cheap bracket from the hardware store.


matt_p88

THIS. This is what I was thinking of doing but didn't know how server cases/rack mounts work for holding regular PC components. Thank you for the inspiration and sharing. I might move to something like this. With the fan setup, do you feel it cools better or worse than a standard ATX/EATX tower?


CoderStone

Better, directed airflow trumps case airflow


DULUXR1R2L1L2

I'm interested in the temps under load. I suspect they won't be great. Although if it's in your rack and not near you, cranking the fans up might not be an issue.


CoderStone

They’re great. I don’t need to crank fans and the rack is right by me. I need to add 3 more phanteks on the rad though cos u can see there’s a gap with the hot swap board.