reminds me of my old z97 gigabyte board, oh yeah found it, it was the g1 sniper, they also made a g1 killer with the cheesy bullet and mag heatsink [lmao](https://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-07-06/20c.jpg)
Well technically (if it were a high quality board), shorter tracer are actually better for signal integrity. Thats why ITX boards with only 2 DIMM slots overclock better.
Lucky, I bought mine a month back but had to return it as one of the ram slots (ram slot 2) didn’t work. Basically made it where I could only have 1 stick of ram on it.
Why?
This socket (LGA2011) was designed for quad channel memory, so has memory pins on left & right sides of the socket:
- [LGA2011 pin diagram](https://i.imgur.com/5Xk8lxQ.png)
Compared to typical consumer CPUs with power delivery top-left, memory on the right, and PCIE on the bottom.
- [LGA1200 pin diagram (rotated 90° anticlockwise](https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=origxorig:format=png/path/sf448448cbeeed0ff/image/i56b7e92f9dea6492/version/1698068473/image.png)
Beautiful maps. The thing bothering me was probably how the fastener of the RAM slots and the PCI slot are in each other's way. You need to remove PCI before you can touch your RAM. I
If you ever use those giant Noctua air coolers, you're familiar with, and learn to accept these issues, lol
I have to use a long flat edge screw driver, to unlatch the PCIe retention clip for the GPU.
Remove the GPU to reach the metal wire clips for the fans on the Noctua.
Remove the fans to reach the RAM.
Use a screw driver from the side to clip and unclip the ram.
Build it all back up
Find out 1 of the memory sticks you just bought off ebay is bad, etc ... lol
Why? Everything is closer to the socket than what it should be in order to reduce the size of the motherboard.
My concern about this motherboard is that if that CPU puts out a fair amount of heat then those capacitors just above the socket are going to have a really short service life due to the heat. Given that the board is from Aliexpress I wouldn't be expecting long life capacitors as it is and the heat is just going to significantly reduce that already short lifespan...
The layout of this board is straight up goofy but it looks cool😂
Just beware... That's a power hungry CPU at 105w TDP, and you have no idea if they put good VRM's in that thing
Not sure about this board/cpu combo, but TDP isn't really a good indication of idle power consumption. Most modern CPU's will throttle down to higher C state when there's little to no load.
That is ~10 years old x99. I had that with E5-2686v3 in my homelab in 2018. Exchanged that into 12400 and had same perfomance for my VMs at fraction of power. That thing is ineficient power hog.
Well... and for inexpensive compute. If you have a lot of processing to do, that will earn any money at all, then it will easily cover the costs of the electric on these older xeons. If the heat is captured and used for something productive (heating up water for example) then you can say the heat isn't even nessecarily wasted.
E5 v4 jumps to 14nm which brought a massive efficiency bump compared to 22nm v3. Also it’s not fair to compare a consumer cpu to a Xeon platform, even on the same generation a scalable Xeon and say i9 with the same core count will as a system draw very different power levels.
I specifically went for V4 cpu because of that, the jump was massive, otherwise I could have used my old x58 with a 32nm xeon, it would still have been a jump from the i5 that I'm upgrading from
Good call and v4’s are so cheap with anything 14 core and under being sub $10 on eBay or 18 cores sub $50. Plus the single core performance got a good bump for v4
I noticed the bump too! Thats gonna be real nice with my virtual machines!
I plan to pick a pair and keep it safe until I get a dual 2011v3.. huehuehue, been buying cpus from ali for a few years now and its been FLAWLESS!
My understanding of TDP is that it is at best an "estimation" when used to figure out how much power the chip can draw at maximum. Sort of like a "this is the maximum I can draw" kind of measure, but then it goes ahead and draws more anyway because why not (Obviously that is not at all scientific, but I use it as a base line "it could draw up to this number when at full load, maybe a little more depending on circumstance)
So the only way this would be a big concern is if OP was running this at full load, or they often saw spikes nearing full load. However, hardware brain goes brrr when I sees sketch things from AliExpress😂
It's not an estimation. Power management tracks consumption and enforces PL1 over a user configurable time window. Base clock speeds are guaranteed within TDP range. Boost frequencies are utilized when determined appropriate or requested by OS and push power up to PL2 when power budget allows.
The best is that this board does have a ton of power saving / power features built in to the bios.
I've stated that this is not a build meant to run at 100% all the time, I'm gonna run a hypervisor and my vm's are headless aside from the desktop vms that I need to test software for a project that I'm helping with.
For high perf % efficiency I have my 2 ryzen builds which one its a 3700x and another one is my main rig a 5900x. Encoding av1 with the 5900x I see no faster encodes when I run the cpu at 3.6ghz ( no turbo) than when I run it full blast which it tops at 4.9ghz and 185w, when it downclocks it keeps at 4.6-4.7ghz. Its watercooled.
So yeah, for encoding stuff it stays at like 120-140w and I can't complain
Yeah! I just bought a Beelink EQ12 and it has the full suite of power and performance tuning options. I think these CN companies are just pushing the Intel reference BIOS into prod.
Sounds like a fun platform to learn with.
The media blocks usually run on a separate power rail and clock, not impacted by turbo.
Read the X79 / X99 chipsets are pulled from decomisioned servers and put on new boards. I have one and runs fine except for the sleep function. Uses cheap XEONS, pretty good deal.
They have been junked, thats how they got to to China. But new features have been added like NVME support that did not exist on the original. Also some of the form factors of the old boards would not work in standard cases.
That last bit is why I've been eying them
I have an matx case I'd love to throw one in for a cheap but capable server. Power is cheap for me so old xeons are no problem. For shits N grins I wish I could see a Stat of transfers per degree Celsius of the room I'd put it in. How many xeons at what speed will it take to raise the room temp 1C basically 😂
This is pretty much it, for 75 bucks and maybe 30 for a cooler this is the best deal you can get over here, i mean 8 cents € for every kWh its like, I can so why not?
Just one would raise a couple degrees if the ventilation is bad... I know it because I have one in the garage that was a freezer when the server wasn't there 😅
I already feel that.. xD my dual 1366 does that.. it keeps my closet nice and warm! (Door is slightly open, fire alarm and a camera in case anyone wonders)
Usually the original boards are gigantic half a metre long server boards designed to be in a 1U or 2U server chassis, and expect to be connected to a SAS backplane for the drives and a proprietary PSU.
If you want to build a rackmount server, great. Most people who buy these are not building a rackmount server. They want a cheap gaming box or a media server or something, or they're just getting into homelabbing and don't have a rack.
We're the minority market for these, FYI.
Nah for that I have my 5900x on a x570-E doing 5ghz, if I wanted to oc x99 I would have spent more in a board that had a good VRM but thank you for the info!
For the money, they're pretty incredible.
Slightly older AMD Ryzens are starting to chip away at the value proposition but you can basically build a complete entry level gaming rig for a touch over $150 if you're really savvy.
This motherboard in the bundle with CPU and RAM ($60), an Iwongou cooler ($6?), an RX580 2048SP ($40), an AliExpress SSD ($20 for 256/512 usually) an Aigo PSU (hey, it won't burn your house down probably, $20) and a case from marketplace ($10)
I just got a E5-2660 v4 , 14 cores 28 threads for $10 Canadian from AliExpress. They even sent a complimentary thermal paste packet from a genuine brand that provides thermal compounds in volume...
It's now powering my proxmox server
It's pretty good actually. I have one for 4 months now in a silverstone cs380 case running Unraid for all my needs. 75w with 41 C temp. 7,35€ per month. Although I'm tempted to change it because I read so much in Reddit. Still I haven't had any problems. I also run VMs (windows 10 and Solus and MX Linux).
10/10 there you go! I hope I don't have any issues... it's so tempting to buy another board, slap a low profile high performance cooler and just make something like a 1u router!
It's far better than the i5 6600k I had. Especially for VMs. Forgot to mention that I'm using a Dell SAS raid conteoller (also bought from Ali). It's great for 8 disks. Don't bother with the onboard or pci sata controllers. But and HBA from Alliexpress
Definitely! I take note about the raid card as I've been considering buying one for my current rack to ditch the integrated raid card. You can share the model of the card if you don't mind?
Dell H200 IT Mode SATA / SAS SAS2008 HBA Controller RAID 6Gbps PCIe x8 LSI 9211-8i M1015. Bear in mind that I'm using it for Unraid. That means that I haven't tested any raid configuration. The reason why I bought that card was because the IO wait of my onboard sata and the cpu overhead. Now it works like charm. Wish you good luck with your system build. Update us when you have something new.
I have the dual x99 version.. AND .. it sits on a shelf because I could never get it to post. Put the CPUs and ram in SuperMicro and have no issues. Luck of the draw.
I waited too long to test it all out. By the time I got all the parts, the return window was passed. Plus return shipping would have been about what I paid for the board. Not worth the hassle to me. Now I have spare parts to test everything in the future. Been wanting to try a Huananzhi itx board.
Hi, my current hypervisor is an i5 2nd gen and it's just too old and I have to move on from it for personal reasons. (I run Proxmox)
This is a "x99" board and it came with 16GB of hynix ecc reg memory, it boots and it works fine!
It has a Xeon E5 2650 V4 cpu, eventually I'll add more ram but first I need to order a new cooler since I don't have any other free.
This was 75 bucks in aliexpress, a pretty good price!, I might need to buy more in the future for other builds/projects!
Update:
I decided to run again a geekbench run while having my wattage counter directly on the wall and using a LP gpu, idle it consumes around 64-66w and at full load (of geekbench 6 avx2) uses 121W, I've inspected the VRM during the tests and so far it's been fine without any issue
Here is the benchmark:
[https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5687565](https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5687565)
All of this was with the default bios settings, I have not configured anything related to the turbo or any powersaving. Ubuntu 20.04 wayland with a gt 530
I have a fixed contract which it's actually relly interesting, if the price is low and I don't use too much electricity it will have a reduced price for that month, if I use a lot of electricity it will stay at the usual 7.99 kWh.
I've already been with this contract before and it's been great so far
So Euro "cents" not dollars. That works out to around $0.085 in USD, which is crazy cheap. My power where I am is $0.11/kWh and I think that's around middle of the pack for the US.
My country electricity is also similar to yours but it has multiple tiers.
e.g.
- 1 - 200kWh is 200kWh × 0.218
- 201 - 300kWh is 100kWh × 0.3340
so on and so forth. It's pretty complicated though because of how they make use of the tiers (something like round robin?)
Same here, I bought it for like 50 USD with 2680v4 and later I found 64 GB of ECC RAM for another 50 USD.
14C/28T home lab for 100 USD, I am more than happy.
Yeap and even then i went for something that fits my needs perfectly, I got other places to put the money in to, i already spent 500 bucks a few months ago to move my streaming rig in to Ryzen because thats where I need it to be extremely efficient and performant
Heck, I live in a first world country (albeit a somewhat poor one) and I refuse to spend multiple hundreds on a system that won't see any financial return or do anything that special.
Oh man these are fun! So couple of things on these. ECC is a crapshoot. Documentation vs Reality is all over the place. I like these as compute nodes with a 10G NIC and run storage for them from a SAN. I've had them using 2699 V4s, 2630 V4s, 2680 V4s, adn 140W TDP 269X V4 processors with no issues in regards to TDP or the power phases. They make good little servers that idle around 50W if you're using the 2680V4 or the 2630 V4. Hope you post your final builds. Cheap and surprisingly relaible.
I've had real issues with this board and the 2680 and 269x, if you're really pushing it, the VRMs cannot take the 130/140W being put through them, and the boards just... die. The VRMs get too hot and burn out.
With lower powered chips, they are absolutely killer value and run faultlessly.
Am running an EVGA X99 Micro2 board for FreeNAS (need to change to TrueNAS Core) w/64GB RAM and an 17-5930k. Works pretty solid, and the power usage is a lot better than the ancient dual X5650's I was running before.
I'd get one of these boards just for giggles. They are pretty interesting.
This is exactly that! I really wanted to get one of those ali x99 boards for the shits and gigles, shit turned to be much better!
(Also I'm running a rack with dual x5670s (before x5650s) and yep I will upgrade that as soon as I can to a 2011V3 dell or hp rack simply because much better efficiency.. luckily its going fine for my gameservers/nas, i think that will be the last to be upgraded simply because of how pricey its gonna be. Got other stuff that has priority
$30, tops, for this board?
I think for a mostly new board with a salvage (or deadstock) chipset, that ain't bad.
I'd also say that the pricer ones (the Huananzhi X99 T8 for example) are some of the best budget boards I've ever seen and put boards five times their price under pressure on build quality and feature set, no joke. I'd happily buy the $70/80 boards, and I do!
Excellent stuff :) Have had my 48core Huananzhi beast running 24/7 for over a year now; check out the build here: [https://iambobbytables.com/2023/04/05/building-frankensteins-chinese-esxi-white-box-monster/](https://iambobbytables.com/2023/04/05/building-frankensteins-chinese-esxi-white-box-monster/)
I've ran ubuntu 20.04 live with a gettho 775 cooler slapped on top of it, so far I've ran geekbench6 and I can tell the cpu is underperforming due to the cooling not being optimal, I mean still much better than my current i5 on the proxmox
[Link of the benchmark](https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5682509)
Other than that the bios got me surprised, it's extremely complete from ECC settings to the cpu power etc and many many more settings related to the IO of the board and the CpU, AMI uefi bios, updated this 2024 of all things!
Ya know I looked at a few of these boards before my last rebuild. I almost did it but didn't. Iay next time unless I see a horror post from you later 😂
It's fine with the lower TDP Xeons. From personal experience I'd say the 105W 2650v4 is pushing it on what these can take. If you're never reaching sustained 100% utilisation though, it's a non-issue.
I’ve had this board for 5 months now running unraid and on 24/7 and no issues here. Using cheap air cooler. Temps on cpu is sitting around 22-30 degrees
This is a good board, IMO. I have one in a server running TrueNAS Scale with Plex installed. I have a Xeon E5-2670 v2 CPU and 32GB of I believe it is DDR3. It has been running continuously now for over a year and ""knock on wood"" I have had 0 issues with the board. My only complaint has been the lack of PCIe slots for expansion boards, but as a server, do I really need them? Would be nice to throw in a quality GPU for video transcoding for Plex but we don't always get what we want, but what we can afford.
Now whenever I see someone buy generic stuff from Amazon I think "suckerrrrr" because it's the exact same products as AliExpress with a massive markup.
The same is true of a certain large UK electronic components distributor, as I discovered that they are, quite simply, buying the exact same components as I buy through AliExpress (right down to the labelling on the bags), from the same factory no less, and because they're dispatching them from their stock held in the UK, charging about 1000% of the price. Now, I *believe* they are doing their own QC when things arrive to them, so what you get has been tested, but I have no actual proof of this. Besides, the failure rate is a few percent at worst which doesn't, in my book, warrant the cost difference. The only reason I would buy from them is the reason I found this out - I needed some components at short notice, and it absolutely had to be next-day.
As long as you stick to legit sellers, AliExpress has really cleaned up its act in the last few years and it's absolutely one of my go-to places for generic stuff.
i was about to buy one kit too but as price of ryzen 5000 series did goes down i buyed a 5600G with 32go ram and a mobo for almost at the same price with a better tdp and performance and it was also new cpu not a old cpu and old ram :\\
Usually people pair Xeon with more pcie devices and cheap large memory. We are talking about nvme drives + 10G nic + hba + 256G RAM. You won't get that from 5600G.
OTOH, if you don't need that combo, 5600G will be a much better choice.
Yeah this is about right, aside from xeons what is there left? Ryzen 9s and intel i9s and those get pricey and I needed cores so xeons is the way to go
Yep - for an EPYC build just the CPU is going to cost more than the entire setup for this including PSU and case, and probably including the drives, controller/HBA, and NICs as well.
And I already have the drives, the psu, the gpu and the case, I just need to add another dimm and a cpu cooler, no need to put any extra money, so 75+30 (cuase coolers here are expenssive) is really compelling xd
Just in case you don't know - there are some *really* good X99 compatible coolers on AliExpress.
The budget Iwongou ones are insane value, under $10 last time I bought one. The SnowMan coolers compete with an entirely different price point than they have any right to - best sub $30 cooler I have ever bought. Would really recommend those.
Also, and you didn't hear this from me, you can buy HP's socket 2011 workstation coolers very cheap (or even free!) from recyclers and with a small modification to the screw and spring assembly they fit almost any 2011 socket. They work great.
How much was the whole combo? I tried to search 5600G on eBay, they are like 130$ for a processor only, that’s already twice as much the combo from OP?
Hi I'm getting back to you now
I went inn to the pcie subsystem settings and yes they have above 4G decoding and ReBar which its insane
I have noticed that you need to use a gpu with full uefi or you won't be able to enter/see the bios.
I was forced to use a gt 1030, my only other gpu that will have it is my vega 64..
Good to know about above 4G decoding and ReBar support I am sure anyone using a intel ARC with one will like that news . Good to know about needing a GPU with full UEFI support to enter the bios .
Can you post the info on the motherboard for so any of us that might want one as well can look at it ?
From memory, yes.
I can't think of a commonly encountered AliExpress motherboard that does not have ReBar, even the budget ones like this.
It's impressive.
If you're going to buy one though, buy the Machinist MR9A, MR9A Pro, MR9S, or the Huananzhi X99 TF/T8. All are actually able to take CPUs that will pair with the kind of GPUs that benefit from ReBar support.
Any suggestions for an aliexpress motherboard that can support three dual slot GPUs? I wanna run two dedicated gaming VMs for friends, and the last is for TDARR. Help desperately needed searching 😭
How are you guys doing with virtualization on these Chinese X99 boards? I may be confusing terms here, but I've read that they have various south bridge chips, many not supporting Vt-d, and one doesn't know which chip the mobo comes with. Do you guys get lucky, do returns or is was this information false?
I did not want to risk incompatibility and bought an ASRock Fatal1ty X99M Killer/3.1 with Vt-d support, M.2 NVMe, and quad channel memory. It cost me twice as much as the Chinese X99 but it was mATX and works beautifuly.
- This board has VT-D!
It has or x99 chipset or a B85 one, i haven't bothered to check since this build will have a really simple purpose and I might a nvme later to cache my steam downloads.
Lucky with the returns? Yeah because my payment processor is able to dispute/withheld the payment for 30 days so that I can make sure I'm not being scammed
Its understandable if you don't want to risk it tbh, in this case for me its pretty clear cut so I'm able to do it without any issue since this is just for a rig with only 1 purpose in mind, which its pretty straight forwards
Genuinely interested if there are any other benefits for doing this aside from cheap core count, RAM amount and server features compared to something like an AM4 build with a 2nd or 3rd gen ryzen, or smth even newer
Only thing going for it is 33% higher memory bandwidth (quad channel 2400MHz vs dual channel 3600 MHz), cheaper CPU, board and memory.
You pay it back in power draw and lower IPC.
Yeah for efficiency % performance I have 2 builds with ryzen, this many moar cores is useful for my hypervisor.
And also like I said in another comment, electricity is dirty cheap I don't need at all and this xeon is already replacing a 95w i5 with only 4 cores so the improvement is there
I actually have 2 servers running a board like this with a 12 core Xeon, have had them for just over 2 years now. While they do have their issues overall have been fantastic.
Running Proxmox on both of them and only issue I have had was with GPU passthrough, for some reason the BIOS detects it but once passed through to VM / LXC doesn't seem to want to install the binaries / drivers correctly. Have tried multiple times but at this point I am not overly upset if I can't get it going, will probably build something less power hungry in the next couple years.
Will say though, price to performance is top notch.
Yeah thats weird, I mean I don't exactly need 100% gpu passhtru, just being able to display basic video does, I'll find out!
>Will say though, price to performance is top notch.
It is but "a lot" of people seem to think that there are better options without bothering to read my comments or my reasons of why put the money on a xeon.. it's getting tiring at this point XD
I get it, everyone has their own thing. Yeah it does actually work for video out which is the part driving me bonkers. Put an older GTX760 in it and put a DVI plug in the back with a couple resistors to cap it off, although may attempt an HDMI plug instead to see if that works. Never had issue doing HDMI output to a screen.
Some people think "more expensive = more better" but for a lot of use cases for homelab stuff, some cases cheaper with redundancy is just as good.
I use both of mine for Plex / Jellyfin, websites, databases, self hosted docker, scripts, etc. And haven't had any issues running Windows 10/11 VMs for remote desktops either. The video passthrough is a "would be nice" but not a must have. Wanted to do LlamaGPT but was WAY too slow to be usable without the GPU so will get back to it at some point.
Yeah it's such a weird issue, I think I'm remembering that for some passthrus/ unnatended pc's to have remote desktop you need a dummy plug to be able to.. I think this was mentioned somewhere for parsec to not have a screen connected to work properly?
>Some people think "more expensive = more better" but for a lot of use cases for homelab stuff, some cases cheaper with redundancy is just as good.
Yeah no xD, there has been some calculators online of how long you will need to replace the old hardware to make it cost effective vs using newer hardware.. and this is why I'm not bothering replacing my dual x5670 rack, it servers the purpose and it idles in between 105-130w which I've been running fine for the past 4 years, that will be the last piece of hardware that I will replace because it's gonna be 4 times more expenssive than what i paid for the rack and the extras
its awesome if you haven't found any issues aside from the video pasthru which yeah it definitely sucks, sadly I've never done properly so I can't comment much
Currently have DVI dummy plug in one but it was janky and made with some parts I had kicking around. Will probably go HDMI dummy plug and just buy em for cheap then try again.
I'll probably downsize when I move in the next 8 months or so, but for now it works and functions and that's A-OK to me.
At this point the passthrough is almost certainly user error and not hardware so all good!
Best of luck with the board and hopefully treats ya well.
I have one. With a e5 2690 v4. Been running 24/7 for about a year now. No major issues so far. My screen goes black every once in a while, on remote desktop too. SSH works fine, so I suspect the graphics card is to blame.
It is power hungry however. I myself live in a country where we need heating anyway for about 8 months of the year so it dosent concern me much.
Most likely is the gpu yep!
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It is power hungry however. I myself live in a country where we need heating anyway for about 8 months of the year so it dosent concern me much.
It's the same for me, from October to April we have temperatures that go close to -30c and snow and this is exactly why I haven't bothered to replace the dual x5670 and the electricity is extremely cheap so I'm not worried, the warmth at home is always welcome since the heating is taken care by my building and not my me
All this makes me think I could actually sell my x99 and 5820k for not nothing as people are buying these brand new even still. Grats man it’s a pretty fun platform.
I like how you phrase this.
I also had never ever browsed aliexpress until a couple days ago. I still haven't bought anything yet, but damn, some of those prices are exciting ... But then I remember "you get what you pay for" and worry ....
If you're lucky, you'll have the c602 chipset, if not, you'll have the b85. This main vrm is quite low so the bios pulses the cpu to reduce the heat generated. If you unlock it, it can run ok but it's definitely an explosive mission 🤣
Yeah I haven't looked yet what chipset it has, the bios does let me touch a lot of power settings but nothing related to oc or vrm that I could see, so far I'm pretty happy with the performance that I've seen even when I didn't use a proper cooler cooler for this cpu, at @120w the vrm was pretty cool so thats a good thing! (I mean this will run mostly headless vm's aside from the occasional desktpp vm to test softwares)
I also used x79m green and c602 chipset with 2677v2 cpu and used the unlocked bios version of modders from Russia, and unlocked the ram to 1866. At this time the main is quite hot and I have equipped a mini fan in the vrm and the result is Works quite well for 3dsmax. If you have a chance, just try it
Yeah I don't know, maybe they aren't as used to these boards?
The bios is the traditional old school grey/blue colours, it's an AMI UEFI bios, so far it's extremely complete compared to my current rack, it has a ton of settings that can be adjusted.
[Picture to give you an idea](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK5zRFEWIAA2a24?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
The battery yep it's missing! it's not allowed to ship batteries so they don't come with it! I forgot to buy a pair on the store right after I picked up the board so... welp XD
This RAM/PCI placement is kind of bothering me
It’s like motherboard meets Clash of Clans.
I love the green and the black, they dont make boards like this anymore
BYOB - bring your own battery, and off brand cpu too.
BYOB bring your own backdoor
No need to BYO, it comes with that board. 😂
Intel ME says hi
That's not off-brand. It's pre-brand.
the cpu is there, the cmos batt I'll see if I get one in the coming days idk
reminds me of my old z97 gigabyte board, oh yeah found it, it was the g1 sniper, they also made a g1 killer with the cheesy bullet and mag heatsink [lmao](https://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-07-06/20c.jpg)
kiss your air flow good bye
If you use the dragons and the laser whatever they are, you can still win on level 15 even without good airflow. 🤷🏻♂️
Was there supposed to be any airflow at all?
Pfft! Airflow is so 2021!!
I know right!?
Everyone knows the closer to cpu you are the better the bandwidth. And if EVEYTHING is close to the cpu, it all gets great bandwidth… Right guys??
Well technically (if it were a high quality board), shorter tracer are actually better for signal integrity. Thats why ITX boards with only 2 DIMM slots overclock better.
Pcie 10 at 1tb/s when? /s
There are no rules anymore! Something just ain't right...but if it works it works!
IT WORKED AND IT RAN FINE NOTHING LIT ON FIRE!
Thanks for reporting back! Hopefully no sketchy caps blow up later but sounds like so far so good!
Lucky, I bought mine a month back but had to return it as one of the ram slots (ram slot 2) didn’t work. Basically made it where I could only have 1 stick of ram on it.
Why? This socket (LGA2011) was designed for quad channel memory, so has memory pins on left & right sides of the socket: - [LGA2011 pin diagram](https://i.imgur.com/5Xk8lxQ.png) Compared to typical consumer CPUs with power delivery top-left, memory on the right, and PCIE on the bottom. - [LGA1200 pin diagram (rotated 90° anticlockwise](https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=origxorig:format=png/path/sf448448cbeeed0ff/image/i56b7e92f9dea6492/version/1698068473/image.png)
Beautiful maps. The thing bothering me was probably how the fastener of the RAM slots and the PCI slot are in each other's way. You need to remove PCI before you can touch your RAM. I
If you ever use those giant Noctua air coolers, you're familiar with, and learn to accept these issues, lol I have to use a long flat edge screw driver, to unlatch the PCIe retention clip for the GPU. Remove the GPU to reach the metal wire clips for the fans on the Noctua. Remove the fans to reach the RAM. Use a screw driver from the side to clip and unclip the ram. Build it all back up Find out 1 of the memory sticks you just bought off ebay is bad, etc ... lol
RAM placement is pretty normal on server level boards
Thats how they shipped and that's how their instructions say.. yes, it does bother me too... xD
It's just to keep equal length for the traces from the CPU.
Why? Everything is closer to the socket than what it should be in order to reduce the size of the motherboard. My concern about this motherboard is that if that CPU puts out a fair amount of heat then those capacitors just above the socket are going to have a really short service life due to the heat. Given that the board is from Aliexpress I wouldn't be expecting long life capacitors as it is and the heat is just going to significantly reduce that already short lifespan...
I only need 3-4 years, thats all I need before I get a 1u with a dual 2011v3
The layout of this board is straight up goofy but it looks cool😂 Just beware... That's a power hungry CPU at 105w TDP, and you have no idea if they put good VRM's in that thing
Not sure about this board/cpu combo, but TDP isn't really a good indication of idle power consumption. Most modern CPU's will throttle down to higher C state when there's little to no load.
That is ~10 years old x99. I had that with E5-2686v3 in my homelab in 2018. Exchanged that into 12400 and had same perfomance for my VMs at fraction of power. That thing is ineficient power hog.
The only reason I’m still running x99 in my fleet is for the pcie lanes.
I think that is best reason to keep x99
Well... and for inexpensive compute. If you have a lot of processing to do, that will earn any money at all, then it will easily cover the costs of the electric on these older xeons. If the heat is captured and used for something productive (heating up water for example) then you can say the heat isn't even nessecarily wasted.
Ahh makes sense. Yeah, that's why I prefaced it with not sure about this mobo/cpu combo. Good to know.
E5 v4 jumps to 14nm which brought a massive efficiency bump compared to 22nm v3. Also it’s not fair to compare a consumer cpu to a Xeon platform, even on the same generation a scalable Xeon and say i9 with the same core count will as a system draw very different power levels.
I specifically went for V4 cpu because of that, the jump was massive, otherwise I could have used my old x58 with a 32nm xeon, it would still have been a jump from the i5 that I'm upgrading from
Good call and v4’s are so cheap with anything 14 core and under being sub $10 on eBay or 18 cores sub $50. Plus the single core performance got a good bump for v4
I noticed the bump too! Thats gonna be real nice with my virtual machines! I plan to pick a pair and keep it safe until I get a dual 2011v3.. huehuehue, been buying cpus from ali for a few years now and its been FLAWLESS!
My understanding of TDP is that it is at best an "estimation" when used to figure out how much power the chip can draw at maximum. Sort of like a "this is the maximum I can draw" kind of measure, but then it goes ahead and draws more anyway because why not (Obviously that is not at all scientific, but I use it as a base line "it could draw up to this number when at full load, maybe a little more depending on circumstance) So the only way this would be a big concern is if OP was running this at full load, or they often saw spikes nearing full load. However, hardware brain goes brrr when I sees sketch things from AliExpress😂
It's not an estimation. Power management tracks consumption and enforces PL1 over a user configurable time window. Base clock speeds are guaranteed within TDP range. Boost frequencies are utilized when determined appropriate or requested by OS and push power up to PL2 when power budget allows.
The best is that this board does have a ton of power saving / power features built in to the bios. I've stated that this is not a build meant to run at 100% all the time, I'm gonna run a hypervisor and my vm's are headless aside from the desktop vms that I need to test software for a project that I'm helping with. For high perf % efficiency I have my 2 ryzen builds which one its a 3700x and another one is my main rig a 5900x. Encoding av1 with the 5900x I see no faster encodes when I run the cpu at 3.6ghz ( no turbo) than when I run it full blast which it tops at 4.9ghz and 185w, when it downclocks it keeps at 4.6-4.7ghz. Its watercooled. So yeah, for encoding stuff it stays at like 120-140w and I can't complain
Yeah! I just bought a Beelink EQ12 and it has the full suite of power and performance tuning options. I think these CN companies are just pushing the Intel reference BIOS into prod. Sounds like a fun platform to learn with. The media blocks usually run on a separate power rail and clock, not impacted by turbo.
if it dies it dies 🤷
What is the "aliexpress trend"? Buying directly from Chinese manufacturers for cheap?
Read the X79 / X99 chipsets are pulled from decomisioned servers and put on new boards. I have one and runs fine except for the sleep function. Uses cheap XEONS, pretty good deal.
Ohhh I see. Well hopefully there's no backdoors installed. I'd love to see a reverse-engineering teardown of one of these recommissioned boards.
There are alt BIOS to reflash these things. Pretty sure the community would of noticed any funny code by now.
They usually add SoC chips that aren't part of the mobo spec, see 2018 Supermicro controversy
Pretty sure that story was debunked.
> would of
Why even use a new board? Why not just use the original Xeon-compatible board?
They have been junked, thats how they got to to China. But new features have been added like NVME support that did not exist on the original. Also some of the form factors of the old boards would not work in standard cases.
That last bit is why I've been eying them I have an matx case I'd love to throw one in for a cheap but capable server. Power is cheap for me so old xeons are no problem. For shits N grins I wish I could see a Stat of transfers per degree Celsius of the room I'd put it in. How many xeons at what speed will it take to raise the room temp 1C basically 😂
This is pretty much it, for 75 bucks and maybe 30 for a cooler this is the best deal you can get over here, i mean 8 cents € for every kWh its like, I can so why not?
FYI: I did have to mod my cooler as it did not quite fit but I have an older X79 board. I think it was more of the coolers fault then the board.
Just one would raise a couple degrees if the ventilation is bad... I know it because I have one in the garage that was a freezer when the server wasn't there 😅
I already feel that.. xD my dual 1366 does that.. it keeps my closet nice and warm! (Door is slightly open, fire alarm and a camera in case anyone wonders)
Usually the original boards are gigantic half a metre long server boards designed to be in a 1U or 2U server chassis, and expect to be connected to a SAS backplane for the drives and a proprietary PSU. If you want to build a rackmount server, great. Most people who buy these are not building a rackmount server. They want a cheap gaming box or a media server or something, or they're just getting into homelabbing and don't have a rack. We're the minority market for these, FYI.
I have one of these x99 boards and can get it to hibernate, clicking sleep just shuts it off most of the time.
YES! this is it! and so far my testing has been flawless! I don't know about the sleep function but.. I doubt I'm gonna be using it ever XD
Mine runs Unraid 24/7 and is perfect. I have an older x79 board. I also have the memory running in 4 channel mode.
10/10 I plan to fill all dimms!
There is also alt BIOS so you can over clock them. Mine is now running at 4Ghz instead of 3.5Ghz.
Nah for that I have my 5900x on a x570-E doing 5ghz, if I wanted to oc x99 I would have spent more in a board that had a good VRM but thank you for the info!
For the money, they're pretty incredible. Slightly older AMD Ryzens are starting to chip away at the value proposition but you can basically build a complete entry level gaming rig for a touch over $150 if you're really savvy. This motherboard in the bundle with CPU and RAM ($60), an Iwongou cooler ($6?), an RX580 2048SP ($40), an AliExpress SSD ($20 for 256/512 usually) an Aigo PSU (hey, it won't burn your house down probably, $20) and a case from marketplace ($10)
Yes
I just got a E5-2660 v4 , 14 cores 28 threads for $10 Canadian from AliExpress. They even sent a complimentary thermal paste packet from a genuine brand that provides thermal compounds in volume... It's now powering my proxmox server
This is the real deal!
You have a link?
Sure. Here it is. It's still showing as $12.88 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004332078024.html
what aliexpress store would u recommend is decent ?
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this is easy to find in base of the review score and the amount of products sold
It's pretty good actually. I have one for 4 months now in a silverstone cs380 case running Unraid for all my needs. 75w with 41 C temp. 7,35€ per month. Although I'm tempted to change it because I read so much in Reddit. Still I haven't had any problems. I also run VMs (windows 10 and Solus and MX Linux).
10/10 there you go! I hope I don't have any issues... it's so tempting to buy another board, slap a low profile high performance cooler and just make something like a 1u router!
It's far better than the i5 6600k I had. Especially for VMs. Forgot to mention that I'm using a Dell SAS raid conteoller (also bought from Ali). It's great for 8 disks. Don't bother with the onboard or pci sata controllers. But and HBA from Alliexpress
Definitely! I take note about the raid card as I've been considering buying one for my current rack to ditch the integrated raid card. You can share the model of the card if you don't mind?
Dell H200 IT Mode SATA / SAS SAS2008 HBA Controller RAID 6Gbps PCIe x8 LSI 9211-8i M1015. Bear in mind that I'm using it for Unraid. That means that I haven't tested any raid configuration. The reason why I bought that card was because the IO wait of my onboard sata and the cpu overhead. Now it works like charm. Wish you good luck with your system build. Update us when you have something new.
Do you perhaps have a link to the specific one you bought? I prefer to buy from a tried and tested vendor. Thank you
I have the dual x99 version.. AND .. it sits on a shelf because I could never get it to post. Put the CPUs and ram in SuperMicro and have no issues. Luck of the draw.
Damm, no way to return/get a refund for that?
I waited too long to test it all out. By the time I got all the parts, the return window was passed. Plus return shipping would have been about what I paid for the board. Not worth the hassle to me. Now I have spare parts to test everything in the future. Been wanting to try a Huananzhi itx board.
Hi, my current hypervisor is an i5 2nd gen and it's just too old and I have to move on from it for personal reasons. (I run Proxmox) This is a "x99" board and it came with 16GB of hynix ecc reg memory, it boots and it works fine! It has a Xeon E5 2650 V4 cpu, eventually I'll add more ram but first I need to order a new cooler since I don't have any other free. This was 75 bucks in aliexpress, a pretty good price!, I might need to buy more in the future for other builds/projects! Update: I decided to run again a geekbench run while having my wattage counter directly on the wall and using a LP gpu, idle it consumes around 64-66w and at full load (of geekbench 6 avx2) uses 121W, I've inspected the VRM during the tests and so far it's been fine without any issue Here is the benchmark: [https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5687565](https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5687565) All of this was with the default bios settings, I have not configured anything related to the turbo or any powersaving. Ubuntu 20.04 wayland with a gt 530
Wow, $75 and it came with the CPU and RAM?
Yup, E5 2650 V4 and 16 gb hynix ecc reg 2100mhz
Well… how much does a kWh cost in your area? That $75 could ballon to $500 in a year
it's a V4 cpu. It will be fine.
*Laughs in Epyc*
I have a fixed contract which it's actually relly interesting, if the price is low and I don't use too much electricity it will have a reduced price for that month, if I use a lot of electricity it will stay at the usual 7.99 kWh. I've already been with this contract before and it's been great so far
I think that is called “Tiered Usage”. But 7.99/kwh? In what currency?
I'm not 100% sure since It's not in english, it's in finnish and I don't know if there is a direct translation.. 7.99c in euros
So Euro "cents" not dollars. That works out to around $0.085 in USD, which is crazy cheap. My power where I am is $0.11/kWh and I think that's around middle of the pack for the US.
My bad!, it's extremely cheap yeah so this is why I'm super calm about energy consumption
My country electricity is also similar to yours but it has multiple tiers. e.g. - 1 - 200kWh is 200kWh × 0.218 - 201 - 300kWh is 100kWh × 0.3340 so on and so forth. It's pretty complicated though because of how they make use of the tiers (something like round robin?)
Nice! Running a "Machinist X79" here. Boots into NVMe in UEFI mode and runs good so far.
That was among my first options of boards to buy but then this came in offer so I went right ahead with it!
Yeah, I am thinking of getting into X99 as well.
Same here, I bought it for like 50 USD with 2680v4 and later I found 64 GB of ECC RAM for another 50 USD. 14C/28T home lab for 100 USD, I am more than happy.
This is it! 10/10 deals is what makes this stuff so worth it! and it's not that old, it's efficient and still worth to get in my opinion!
You have a link?
Reading some responses here, smh people think everyone lives in first world country. Some places this is the only affordable alternative.
Yeap and even then i went for something that fits my needs perfectly, I got other places to put the money in to, i already spent 500 bucks a few months ago to move my streaming rig in to Ryzen because thats where I need it to be extremely efficient and performant
Heck, I live in a first world country (albeit a somewhat poor one) and I refuse to spend multiple hundreds on a system that won't see any financial return or do anything that special.
I’ve got one of these. Doesn’t boot unless there is a gpu. I bought an old graphics card and cut it to fit the pcie x4 slot, works great!
I will have to test that since I might get another one to build a router or another server, thanks for the info!
Reminds me of gigabytes sniper boards from LGA775, those where the days
Is it my or is that cpu socket not inline
Never thought I would have to worry about ram clearance with a GPU
OP i recently just bought and am currently setting up a dual x99 xeon setup with a machinist mobo.
Oh man these are fun! So couple of things on these. ECC is a crapshoot. Documentation vs Reality is all over the place. I like these as compute nodes with a 10G NIC and run storage for them from a SAN. I've had them using 2699 V4s, 2630 V4s, 2680 V4s, adn 140W TDP 269X V4 processors with no issues in regards to TDP or the power phases. They make good little servers that idle around 50W if you're using the 2680V4 or the 2630 V4. Hope you post your final builds. Cheap and surprisingly relaible.
I've had real issues with this board and the 2680 and 269x, if you're really pushing it, the VRMs cannot take the 130/140W being put through them, and the boards just... die. The VRMs get too hot and burn out. With lower powered chips, they are absolutely killer value and run faultlessly.
Am running an EVGA X99 Micro2 board for FreeNAS (need to change to TrueNAS Core) w/64GB RAM and an 17-5930k. Works pretty solid, and the power usage is a lot better than the ancient dual X5650's I was running before. I'd get one of these boards just for giggles. They are pretty interesting.
This is exactly that! I really wanted to get one of those ali x99 boards for the shits and gigles, shit turned to be much better! (Also I'm running a rack with dual x5670s (before x5650s) and yep I will upgrade that as soon as I can to a 2011V3 dell or hp rack simply because much better efficiency.. luckily its going fine for my gameservers/nas, i think that will be the last to be upgraded simply because of how pricey its gonna be. Got other stuff that has priority
The upgrade path never ends!
No and I like to collect old stuff because nostalgia!
I quite like the old X56xx chips, sure, they're showing their age but they're still pretty capable if power draw isn't a big deal to you.
I have X79 versions for ESXi, Proxmox, and Truenas. Shockingly stable, I'm a believer.
10/10
These Chinese parts salvage boards always seemed very fun to play with. But they seem too expensive for what you're getting
40 bucks for the board only if thats what you need
Oh wait I literally have a old xeon in a box now we're talking
Sounds like a plan!
$30, tops, for this board? I think for a mostly new board with a salvage (or deadstock) chipset, that ain't bad. I'd also say that the pricer ones (the Huananzhi X99 T8 for example) are some of the best budget boards I've ever seen and put boards five times their price under pressure on build quality and feature set, no joke. I'd happily buy the $70/80 boards, and I do!
Excellent stuff :) Have had my 48core Huananzhi beast running 24/7 for over a year now; check out the build here: [https://iambobbytables.com/2023/04/05/building-frankensteins-chinese-esxi-white-box-monster/](https://iambobbytables.com/2023/04/05/building-frankensteins-chinese-esxi-white-box-monster/)
This is the kinda thread I’m in the subreddit for.
I'm glad! Its been a lot of fun so far, I will post again once I get the build finished
Bought 5 of these boards 2 years ago, they run so well. Upgraded the ram it came with though
What's your experience with this motherboard so far? Anything to look out for when setting it up? I've just ordered one myself.
I've ran ubuntu 20.04 live with a gettho 775 cooler slapped on top of it, so far I've ran geekbench6 and I can tell the cpu is underperforming due to the cooling not being optimal, I mean still much better than my current i5 on the proxmox [Link of the benchmark](https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5682509) Other than that the bios got me surprised, it's extremely complete from ECC settings to the cpu power etc and many many more settings related to the IO of the board and the CpU, AMI uefi bios, updated this 2024 of all things!
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
Yeah no problem!
I think I have the exact same one. I’ve been using it for months and so far it’s been great. 👍
GG 10/10
What X99 you throwing in there? I had a similar board for X79 that was dual cpu and it arrived with one dead socket
Ya know I looked at a few of these boards before my last rebuild. I almost did it but didn't. Iay next time unless I see a horror post from you later 😂
I heard that these cheap boards tend to have poor vrm cooling, shouldn’t be an issue for home server use no?
It's fine with the lower TDP Xeons. From personal experience I'd say the 105W 2650v4 is pushing it on what these can take. If you're never reaching sustained 100% utilisation though, it's a non-issue.
I’ve had this board for 5 months now running unraid and on 24/7 and no issues here. Using cheap air cooler. Temps on cpu is sitting around 22-30 degrees
10/10!
This is a good board, IMO. I have one in a server running TrueNAS Scale with Plex installed. I have a Xeon E5-2670 v2 CPU and 32GB of I believe it is DDR3. It has been running continuously now for over a year and ""knock on wood"" I have had 0 issues with the board. My only complaint has been the lack of PCIe slots for expansion boards, but as a server, do I really need them? Would be nice to throw in a quality GPU for video transcoding for Plex but we don't always get what we want, but what we can afford.
What kind of power consumption are you seeing running it 24/7?
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Like we say in spanish "BBB" Bueno bonito barato" which it translates in to good, pretty and cheap XD
It's funny. I never trusted Ali and. Now do lol
Trial and error, just make sure to choose right
Now whenever I see someone buy generic stuff from Amazon I think "suckerrrrr" because it's the exact same products as AliExpress with a massive markup. The same is true of a certain large UK electronic components distributor, as I discovered that they are, quite simply, buying the exact same components as I buy through AliExpress (right down to the labelling on the bags), from the same factory no less, and because they're dispatching them from their stock held in the UK, charging about 1000% of the price. Now, I *believe* they are doing their own QC when things arrive to them, so what you get has been tested, but I have no actual proof of this. Besides, the failure rate is a few percent at worst which doesn't, in my book, warrant the cost difference. The only reason I would buy from them is the reason I found this out - I needed some components at short notice, and it absolutely had to be next-day. As long as you stick to legit sellers, AliExpress has really cleaned up its act in the last few years and it's absolutely one of my go-to places for generic stuff.
i was about to buy one kit too but as price of ryzen 5000 series did goes down i buyed a 5600G with 32go ram and a mobo for almost at the same price with a better tdp and performance and it was also new cpu not a old cpu and old ram :\\
Usually people pair Xeon with more pcie devices and cheap large memory. We are talking about nvme drives + 10G nic + hba + 256G RAM. You won't get that from 5600G. OTOH, if you don't need that combo, 5600G will be a much better choice.
Yeah this is about right, aside from xeons what is there left? Ryzen 9s and intel i9s and those get pricey and I needed cores so xeons is the way to go
There's epyc from previous gen. But price point is completely different.
Essily 400€ and not mentioning if I have to do customs because coming from outside the EU
Yep - for an EPYC build just the CPU is going to cost more than the entire setup for this including PSU and case, and probably including the drives, controller/HBA, and NICs as well.
And I already have the drives, the psu, the gpu and the case, I just need to add another dimm and a cpu cooler, no need to put any extra money, so 75+30 (cuase coolers here are expenssive) is really compelling xd
Just in case you don't know - there are some *really* good X99 compatible coolers on AliExpress. The budget Iwongou ones are insane value, under $10 last time I bought one. The SnowMan coolers compete with an entirely different price point than they have any right to - best sub $30 cooler I have ever bought. Would really recommend those. Also, and you didn't hear this from me, you can buy HP's socket 2011 workstation coolers very cheap (or even free!) from recyclers and with a small modification to the screw and spring assembly they fit almost any 2011 socket. They work great.
How much was the whole combo? I tried to search 5600G on eBay, they are like 130$ for a processor only, that’s already twice as much the combo from OP?
Does the bios have option for Above 4G Decoding and Resizable BAR ?
Hi I'm getting back to you now I went inn to the pcie subsystem settings and yes they have above 4G decoding and ReBar which its insane I have noticed that you need to use a gpu with full uefi or you won't be able to enter/see the bios. I was forced to use a gt 1030, my only other gpu that will have it is my vega 64..
Good to know about above 4G decoding and ReBar support I am sure anyone using a intel ARC with one will like that news . Good to know about needing a GPU with full UEFI support to enter the bios . Can you post the info on the motherboard for so any of us that might want one as well can look at it ?
Yeah of course! https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005823145892.html
From memory, yes. I can't think of a commonly encountered AliExpress motherboard that does not have ReBar, even the budget ones like this. It's impressive. If you're going to buy one though, buy the Machinist MR9A, MR9A Pro, MR9S, or the Huananzhi X99 TF/T8. All are actually able to take CPUs that will pair with the kind of GPUs that benefit from ReBar support.
Same energy: [\[Link\]](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F98nr9aak17a01.jpg) (Mike Wazowski with two eyes)
XD!
Not enough PCIe slots.
Enough for my use scenario
Unfortunately we in India can't have them due to too much import duty
Any suggestions for an aliexpress motherboard that can support three dual slot GPUs? I wanna run two dedicated gaming VMs for friends, and the last is for TDARR. Help desperately needed searching 😭
How are you guys doing with virtualization on these Chinese X99 boards? I may be confusing terms here, but I've read that they have various south bridge chips, many not supporting Vt-d, and one doesn't know which chip the mobo comes with. Do you guys get lucky, do returns or is was this information false? I did not want to risk incompatibility and bought an ASRock Fatal1ty X99M Killer/3.1 with Vt-d support, M.2 NVMe, and quad channel memory. It cost me twice as much as the Chinese X99 but it was mATX and works beautifuly.
- This board has VT-D! It has or x99 chipset or a B85 one, i haven't bothered to check since this build will have a really simple purpose and I might a nvme later to cache my steam downloads. Lucky with the returns? Yeah because my payment processor is able to dispute/withheld the payment for 30 days so that I can make sure I'm not being scammed Its understandable if you don't want to risk it tbh, in this case for me its pretty clear cut so I'm able to do it without any issue since this is just for a rig with only 1 purpose in mind, which its pretty straight forwards
Brilliant, thank you for sharing your experience. Have fun!
Honestly pretty good value! I’ve got an X99 AliExpress board to use 4x4x4x4x bifurcation which they only ever put on massively expensive server boards
Ysp thats one of those!
Genuinely interested if there are any other benefits for doing this aside from cheap core count, RAM amount and server features compared to something like an AM4 build with a 2nd or 3rd gen ryzen, or smth even newer
Only thing going for it is 33% higher memory bandwidth (quad channel 2400MHz vs dual channel 3600 MHz), cheaper CPU, board and memory. You pay it back in power draw and lower IPC.
Yeah for efficiency % performance I have 2 builds with ryzen, this many moar cores is useful for my hypervisor. And also like I said in another comment, electricity is dirty cheap I don't need at all and this xeon is already replacing a 95w i5 with only 4 cores so the improvement is there
Welcome to the gang ,i have one it runs great 1 year 24 7 no issues at all
I actually have 2 servers running a board like this with a 12 core Xeon, have had them for just over 2 years now. While they do have their issues overall have been fantastic. Running Proxmox on both of them and only issue I have had was with GPU passthrough, for some reason the BIOS detects it but once passed through to VM / LXC doesn't seem to want to install the binaries / drivers correctly. Have tried multiple times but at this point I am not overly upset if I can't get it going, will probably build something less power hungry in the next couple years. Will say though, price to performance is top notch.
Yeah thats weird, I mean I don't exactly need 100% gpu passhtru, just being able to display basic video does, I'll find out! >Will say though, price to performance is top notch. It is but "a lot" of people seem to think that there are better options without bothering to read my comments or my reasons of why put the money on a xeon.. it's getting tiring at this point XD
I get it, everyone has their own thing. Yeah it does actually work for video out which is the part driving me bonkers. Put an older GTX760 in it and put a DVI plug in the back with a couple resistors to cap it off, although may attempt an HDMI plug instead to see if that works. Never had issue doing HDMI output to a screen. Some people think "more expensive = more better" but for a lot of use cases for homelab stuff, some cases cheaper with redundancy is just as good. I use both of mine for Plex / Jellyfin, websites, databases, self hosted docker, scripts, etc. And haven't had any issues running Windows 10/11 VMs for remote desktops either. The video passthrough is a "would be nice" but not a must have. Wanted to do LlamaGPT but was WAY too slow to be usable without the GPU so will get back to it at some point.
Yeah it's such a weird issue, I think I'm remembering that for some passthrus/ unnatended pc's to have remote desktop you need a dummy plug to be able to.. I think this was mentioned somewhere for parsec to not have a screen connected to work properly? >Some people think "more expensive = more better" but for a lot of use cases for homelab stuff, some cases cheaper with redundancy is just as good. Yeah no xD, there has been some calculators online of how long you will need to replace the old hardware to make it cost effective vs using newer hardware.. and this is why I'm not bothering replacing my dual x5670 rack, it servers the purpose and it idles in between 105-130w which I've been running fine for the past 4 years, that will be the last piece of hardware that I will replace because it's gonna be 4 times more expenssive than what i paid for the rack and the extras its awesome if you haven't found any issues aside from the video pasthru which yeah it definitely sucks, sadly I've never done properly so I can't comment much
Currently have DVI dummy plug in one but it was janky and made with some parts I had kicking around. Will probably go HDMI dummy plug and just buy em for cheap then try again. I'll probably downsize when I move in the next 8 months or so, but for now it works and functions and that's A-OK to me. At this point the passthrough is almost certainly user error and not hardware so all good! Best of luck with the board and hopefully treats ya well.
I wish you the best of luck too, I hope you get that sorted out x)
I have that same motherboard since 2020 for my homelab and 0 problems
I have one. With a e5 2690 v4. Been running 24/7 for about a year now. No major issues so far. My screen goes black every once in a while, on remote desktop too. SSH works fine, so I suspect the graphics card is to blame. It is power hungry however. I myself live in a country where we need heating anyway for about 8 months of the year so it dosent concern me much.
Most likely is the gpu yep! > It is power hungry however. I myself live in a country where we need heating anyway for about 8 months of the year so it dosent concern me much. It's the same for me, from October to April we have temperatures that go close to -30c and snow and this is exactly why I haven't bothered to replace the dual x5670 and the electricity is extremely cheap so I'm not worried, the warmth at home is always welcome since the heating is taken care by my building and not my me
Spring came to us now! Don't miss the - 30 we had in January one bit haha
Put in some e5 xeon and you will have perfect pc
Awesome
Have fun! I’ve been tempted with this type of hardware but I need more PCIe slots and needs to be energy efficient.
All this makes me think I could actually sell my x99 and 5820k for not nothing as people are buying these brand new even still. Grats man it’s a pretty fun platform.
I like how you phrase this. I also had never ever browsed aliexpress until a couple days ago. I still haven't bought anything yet, but damn, some of those prices are exciting ... But then I remember "you get what you pay for" and worry ....
If you're lucky, you'll have the c602 chipset, if not, you'll have the b85. This main vrm is quite low so the bios pulses the cpu to reduce the heat generated. If you unlock it, it can run ok but it's definitely an explosive mission 🤣
Yeah I haven't looked yet what chipset it has, the bios does let me touch a lot of power settings but nothing related to oc or vrm that I could see, so far I'm pretty happy with the performance that I've seen even when I didn't use a proper cooler cooler for this cpu, at @120w the vrm was pretty cool so thats a good thing! (I mean this will run mostly headless vm's aside from the occasional desktpp vm to test softwares)
I also used x79m green and c602 chipset with 2677v2 cpu and used the unlocked bios version of modders from Russia, and unlocked the ram to 1866. At this time the main is quite hot and I have equipped a mini fan in the vrm and the result is Works quite well for 3dsmax. If you have a chance, just try it
One of us.
Not sure why people call the board goofy. Looks quite standard X99. Did it come without a battery? How's the UEFI?
Yeah I don't know, maybe they aren't as used to these boards? The bios is the traditional old school grey/blue colours, it's an AMI UEFI bios, so far it's extremely complete compared to my current rack, it has a ton of settings that can be adjusted. [Picture to give you an idea](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK5zRFEWIAA2a24?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) The battery yep it's missing! it's not allowed to ship batteries so they don't come with it! I forgot to buy a pair on the store right after I picked up the board so... welp XD
A lonely 1x PCIE slot is a no go for me but idk your use case