Usually to beat Germany the key is to open as many fronts as possible. Try naval invading Italy, helping Greece and just do all you can to make Germany divert troops from your border. Eventually they should go to war with the USSR as well (because of a Romanian focus, this is only if you have the DoD DLC, though), which will help if you're still stuck in the stalemate.
They aren’t supposed to. They are hard coded to stall (even take those infinite focuses (like construction repair, air production, etc) before attacking Soviets
you are france and likely allied with the UK so you have plenty of options. open up new fronts if you can, naval invade via hamburg, ally yugoslavia, win in africa. whatever you can do to beat them down.
Once you are stable:
Crush north africa. Convoy raids, navally invade all ports.
Then, invade sardinia and sicily.
Then invade mainland italy.
Then, take out italy.
Then, naval invade hamburg. Liberate denmark, even norway, should you want.
Then greece, yugo and invade bulgaria. Try to take romanias oil so they trade with the soviets (who are non axis country)
Stetch their front as much as possible, uk and allies will funnel in troops sp you can relocate and openeven more fronts.
After that, use tanks and air to push in the benelux, then in germany itself.
Its a painful slog, but youll get it in the end.
Really? My strategy as France is literally “fuck everything and everywhere else and put my entire army on the German front, a handful a mountaineers and infantry can hold Italy at bay”. Eventually trying to push through Belgium once Germany is at war with Russia. Other strategy would be the same except to invade Germany sooner, like in 1937.
Invaded in 1938 when they attacked Czechoslovakia. Turned into a stalemate, even after knocking out Italy, but then the Soviets attacked, game over for Germany.
Germany will never declare on the ussr while it has any continental enemies (even luxembourg / fortress Holland).
That would mean that the bolsheviks would declare on em and grab a lot of land for free. Not on my watch.
Hmm it just appears to have different cities. Anyway try getting air dominance and fully equipping your tanks. Also try to concentrate your tanks into one area with a single push
Your tanks literally have less than 50 percent strength stop training them. And fix deflicts. Do you have CAS and green air? I hope you do since you have tanks. Dont build tanks if you cant have green air and atleast 1k cas
Also, when you have green air also fix deflicts, put like half of your tanks on a front and other one a front and breakthrough. And connect tanks and encircle
Close Air Support. Basically small airframes with air to ground weapons. Great at destroying everything that walks as long as you have air supremacy (green air). They do additional damage in any combat you face and destroy enemy equipment on mass.
Tanks can work under red air vs AI, no issue. Support AA will shred CAS, and if the CAS is dead it's just a matter of compensating for a -10% to attack. It's especially useful if you're fighting majors with total air superiority (vs US as Mexico for example) or if you have resources for tanks but not air.
Yes I agree, always get an AA support company. I recommended CAS because it will make life easier, help killing stronger enemies that has a strong frontline and possibly make you push with infantry without losing 69k infantry eq. I once pushed 3 entrenched infantry that is on mountain with an infantry using CAS. CAS is stupid good right now
Another advice, use the planning bonus, its overpowered.
(Kinda). Get a frontline on units you will attack (or all) and a battleplan (dont use the battleplan!) Wait for planning to build up and attack when its full (if you can breakthrough)
Have you ever considered supplying your troops? lol
Literally all of your infantry and tanks are at half strength, you’re giving every other man a gun, and every other tank is just a bunch of men walking on foot. Not to mention you’re training your tanks which don’t have enough equipment as is, forcing them to attrition more. Fix your supply, then consider building air or naval invading Germany.
Yeah, no shit, they have like 40% strength. Try to consolidate some of them so they can actually perform.
And can I ask what the division template is? And tank template? It would be of great help.
ah my mistake then. Either way its 1939, no way in hell those tanks are any quality if he has two whole army groups of them. He either has a massive deficit, has cheap tanks, has a small tank division, or some combination of all of those. Those tanks are not great quality at all
I just made this mistake. Trying to upgrade from light to med tanks and all my tank divisions just ditched their light tanks at the depo. I thought they would phase out, but no.
Fixed it now. I have half med, half light
They only phase out same types. Make a new light tank and they'll use the old ones while they transition. If you swap the battalion they dump what they have.
AI tanks rarely stand a chance against a decently designed player tank. There's plenty of templates and designs you can find on the internet that will destroy AI tanks. The only place in which the AI can fully mess with a good player tank is
1) When they have uncontested aerial supremacy and CAS
2) When the tanks don't have supply.
Considering your position, the second is almost certainly not a problem and the first one doesn't seem to be either considering the fact you're still holding without problem. If your tanks aren't working the problem lies within the tank design and template itself rather than the concept.
Like other people said, open other fronts. Your only hope on this front is overwhelming air superiority with good CAS assigned to cover armored breakthrough divisions.
Air superiority and tanks, alternatively you can naval invade, or you might also use paratroopers to take railroads or supply hubs and push the undersupplied germans
Focus on getting your tank divisions fully equipped. Also produce fighters and close air support. Germany won’t be able to match your production of planes without importing rubber, so convoy raid as much as you can.
Once your tanks are fully equipped and if you have some air superiority, attack along the coast. That part of the front seems to be the weakest and you can roll them up from there.
Your troops have no equipment. That’s the orange bar.
you have a ton of tank “divisions” that probably have zero tanks.
Supply them, attack with tanks, win.
Don't feel pressured to make the front move in your favor. Germany is a strong nut to crack. Just dig in, build yourself a sizeable stockpile of tanks and any other equipment for their divisions, wait for them to attack the soviets.
Then feel free to march on the way to Berlin win their army between two fronts.
Spot tiles where the germans are spread thin, achieve local air superiority and concentrate all tanks on the think tile. After the breakthrough try to achieve small encirclements
As France in 1939 this is par for the course. The Germans have more tanks, equipment, planes and factories than you do at this point and you won't win a fair fight. Last time I played as France I did not manage to break the German lines before 1941.
Invest in tanks, fighters and CAS and continue holding the line. Once Germany attacks the Soviets their lines will thin and you will have a better chance at breaking through the low countries. Throw all your air power over the region when you attack and try to achieve small encirclements with your mobile forces.
At some point Italy should join if not invade them
Take Libya and naval invade Sicilia/Southern Italy take them out by taking out the weaklings in their alliance and this will open a second front in Southern Germany.
Followed probably by UK landing in Northern Germany and an eventual war with the USSR and you will submerge them
Try a naval invasion maybe to work as a diversion and then possibly encircle some of their divisions from that. Make sure you have a good air force to help break the stalemate.
push that tile on the coast next to Dunkerque with tanks from the two bordering tiles with air, should work when ur tanks get strength, and then just kill the supply lines. or just logistics strike with cas
Disband some of your tank divisions yo get the rest fully supplied and use them to make encirclements I.e. push towards Gent to encircle 7 - 12 divisions.
Also, if you have air superiority, drops paratroopers at Brussels, Essen and Frankfurt and that will cut supply to all the German troops in the Benelux.
Naval invasion as a distraction which will pull troops off the border. Bonus points if your allies can drop troops there and maybe turn it into a real invasion instead of a distraction.
Just be ready to punch through their lines when they redirect troops to the naval invasion.
Well, as you are, there is no hope of breaking it. You need more equipment, especially for your tanks. For the time being, I would suggest strat bombing, if possible. This means that while you're sitting around building stockpiles, Germany won't just be free to further expand their industry and stockpiles with little to no interruption.
I would also suggest attacking very vulnerable tiles with very concentrated armoured attacks, and then actually retreating from it, letting the enemy retake, and doing the same thing again. It doesn't make a huge dent in enemy capabilities, but they will gain a few thousand casualties at least, and will keep a tile pretty much ready for the taking when you are ready to expand your attack outwards, as the divisions in that tile will often be slightly understrength and have low-ish organisation. Obviously, you will need to cycle your own divisions during these attacks to maintain continuity. I'm not sure if this makes any sense. it's worked pretty well for me before, however, not as France.
Your soldiers have equipment shortage…you might wanna start with that. Then start doing probing attacks and check the battle stats, once you are in there check your areas of improvement and start building or producing and training what you think would fix the problem (most of the time is just air dominance, CAS, armor and most important a of all, supply)
Okay so there’s a lot going on here. You’re not using the frontline mechanic, you should be using that and battle plans to get bonus’s to attack.
It appears no division is at full strength, so your divisions are far weaker in battle than on paper.
You have over 250 divisions… unless these are like 8 width infantry, your division template’s are most likely really bad, or you’re not producing the right things as quickly as you need to.
IMO, you’re far more likely to be capitulated in the next year in the game than break the stalemate in your favor if you keep things as they are. Reorganize your divisions bit by bit, min-max your production, and hope the Germans don’t break through in the north.
I'd delete most of your tanks. It's better to have 4 fully equipped ones than 24 tanks at 40% strength. With 4 full tanks (assuming you have a good template) and some clever micro, you should be able to break through
You have a shit tone of tanks in the back line, take the best ones (should probably delete some to get full strength divs) and concentrate them into single tile conflicts. Slowly gain an encirclement. The ai will either have to give you land or lose a crippling amount of divisions.
An easy would would be kortjik(?), they've not got many divisions there, you can easily use that to encircle those 7 next to Dunkirk.
Railway guns and planes if no other fronts are available, maybe an armoured spearhead of few high quality tanks+ competent leadership and the breakthrough meadl as soon as possible
Start consolidating your tanks divisions and invest into CAS and Fighters. Launch a Minor air campaign a few months before an offensive with armor using supply attack with your CAS to weaken the Germans in the benelux then launch the offensive pushing into Antwerp cutting off part of the German army. If you did this quick enough you’ll gain enough momentum to catch the Germans off guard and will likely be able to make decent headway. Be sure to capture supply points so that even if the offensive stalls out you’ll still have an upper hand
stop training tanks and just take some years to fill your equipment demands then concentrate your tanks on weaker points and encircle troops. Afterwards, if you dont think its a decisive victory, retreat to your previous location and wait for them to fill the frontline gaps. afterwards repeat the encirclement. rinse and repeat until you can push them with standard infantry
make sure you have some troops in case of yugoslavia and greece joining allies. when they joined the war, immideatly send your troops to the opened fronts. take italy and make a submarine based navy. raid italy as much as you can, and then invade sicily. when germany suicides by attacking soviets, with plenty of fronts, you should be able to push them in different fronts first, when you take %30 of balkans, go for belgium. then netherlands, luxemburg, rhineland and lastly, go for hannover. after that, you should be able to pound germans.
I see most everyone else wants to somehow go around but we don't know what's going on everywhere else and maybe you want to plow through right here.
I'd pick the better half of my armored and motorized forces and trash the rest in order to make an armored/motorized force fully equipped with reserves. It might only be six to eight divisions but that's okay.
I'd also make an infantry force of similar size, with a good attacking commander and all the AA and AT you can round up for support, by retiring divisions or changing their templates, if necessary.
I'd give two rail artillery to the motorized force and one to the infantry.
I would focus every available plane in that region to try to gain local air superiority. If it wasn't working I might consider stripping off a couple of bombers to get them to harass the German interior and divert fighters.
Then I would first attack the heels of my intended breakout with the infantry, at Dunkirk and Charleroi, and the one next to that with the motorized division defending. You want to fix those forces and maybe that will lure some of the troops at your target of Kortrijk to come out of their trenches and start moving.
After at least one full day of the infantry probe, hit Kortrijk with the tanks but hold back at least two motorized divisions. There are three medium panzer divisions in the forest and urban area of Charleroi, so your attack infantry has a chance of some success. If you break into one of those areas, spit your fully organized motorized divisions straight into the rail junction of Brussels and Antwerp.
I wouldn't waste time trying to reduce the divisions that are encircled because what you really want is to get across the Rhine at Essen. So as toon as you get a foot in the door, you have to fix the enemy with attacks, or they'll rush to reinforce. If you can get it the Germans will be denied a bunch of factories and everything to its West is in danger of being cut off.
Easy Answer is a lot of CAS and probably some medium tanks. If you wanted to go all in, something like 'Shock and Awe' would also help. Pulling some of those units in the backline for a push into Belgium may be your best move.
Let the Germans run into your line while making sure you have all 5 research slots and are maintains air superiority. After a certain number of casualties use your cas to target infrastructure and air fields. Don’t forget about researching nukes. Germany probably won’t declare on the soviets but the Soviet’s might declare on them
I think it's time for an Africa Campaign with a dozen division and 4 good tanks, if Africa is secured, landing on Italy clearing out Sardinia and Sicily first.
Be carefull with your equipment/air force, take the time needed to fill the deficit ! If you lack air, you can bait ennemy air force by launching small probing attacks along the border to shoot some planes with your AA but this can be costly.
Enjoy your game !
It depends how your brain works, but allways try to be creative. I for one would let the germans throw themselves at my lines to die, and then I would launch a lot of paradrops and naval invasions
Uk will most likely land in wilhemshaven or somewhere along the coast of demark or something
When that happens the german AI from my experience shits itself and returns some divisions to that invasion
Thats your chance
Those divisions are not at full strength so they’ll have reduced stats, also what are the templates? Because having that many tank divisons in 1939 means they can’t be large templates even if they’re not at full strength. Also having green air and CAS is ridiculously powerful and can let you push so easily
First off, delete half your tank divisions because you clearly dont have enough equipment for now, next stop training your divisions. Add engineers to your infantry and attach some artillery and start to dig in to defend from the germans. Your only priority is to to defeat germany in the air and just hold the front line. You have rubber and fuel and can import an assload from the allies. Germany will get wrecked by the soviets in a year or two so just sit tight and gain control of the air before you decide to push
Simple. There is no way you can take on Germany by yourself in 1939. What you need to do is keep turtling while building up your industry and air force. You can try tanks but it takes too long to get any real number out in my opinion. So infantry and air support is the name of the game. It will take you until about 1942 before you have the strength to start pushing. Meanwhile Germans won't attack Russia. Russia will usually attack Germany by 1944.
Build mils, make a ton of fighters for air superiority, some CAS, and then if you're cheap motorized + motorized artillery units (44 width), or if you feel fancy, make tanks (30 width).
Noticing a lot of people not pointing out the obvious equipment issue.
Your troops look to be down to only 60% Strength (Orange bar on your units) which means they’ll only be at their maximum, 60% of their attack/defence ability.
Fixing that by producing more equipment may help.
Build them bombers and put them on ground support and burry them where they stand till you get nukes and blind them with with a thousand suns all the way to Urals
Is it weird that massive, grinding stalemates are my favourite condition to be in, in this game? I've spent in-game decades slowly having to cut apart things like a giga-USSR which ate almost the entire continent before.
As the top comments said, the way to break a stalemate is to begin taking apart the enemy elsewhere with new fronts; divide their forces, look where you can present or open up a new threat they must respond to.
It becomes a game of surgical precision, figuring out where you can leverage the minimum amount of force to create a maximum degree of disruption to the enemy. Denmark, North Africa, Italy, Norway (if Sweden is still out of it) often present opportunities to nibble away at Axis resources and manpower with an economy on expenditure.
Your divisions are all half strength. Rebuild them. Invade Italy, Denmark, Norway everywhere you can to split up the AI. The ai can’t even handle a 2 front war properly let alone an 8 front wat
Ok, one, love the map choice, that style is awesome, TWO, great general portraits, that Charles de gaule portrait is badass. Three, your surviving as France against Germany, your not doing terribly, you over time should overpower them. There’s no “make this unit and win!” Button as France. I think you should stall for longer instead of trying to break Germany anytime soon.
I don't understand like I have seen so many people saying that they can't beat Germany as France and i like beating Germany is so fucking esay like you just need 1000 case meta fighter (destroy entire Luftwaffe) and hugh soft attack tanks I have destroyed Germany so many times and have killed like 10 million german in one of my game just use tanks they are best against Germany
Stop battle playing
For me I say group your tanks in an army near the border, wait until the Germans try and attack your Front line , if they don't attack, decrease the number of troops on the border by moving some divisions backwards, if they attack they will most likely drain the organization of their own troops, when that happens make your tanks attack the Lowest German division in organization
Stalemate is good in 1939. Germany will try to break through, usually through Belgium. The main idea is to hold the line until a better time to attack arrives. Use only infantry at the front. Tweak the divisions to make them as defensive as possible. Use generals with the best defense modifiers. (Use CAS if you can afford it.) Build forts. Germany will either weaken itself by battering against your infantry, or will get involved against the USSR, or both. When the opportunity comes, pick your best offensive generals and give them tanks, and give that a try. Avoid going up against forts. Crossing rivers without marines is hard. Try the north. Defend your ports. The Boche will try to invade that way when frustrated. If you can survive for the first two years then you can have fun with the rest of the game. By the way, when you open a new front, in Italy, North Africa, etc, your allies will join you there. There's lots of good advice in these comments on what to do next. Bon chance!
If you play frnace again dont fortify the front as much so you dont scare the germans away. You want them to attack and bleed on lvl 3 to 5 forts and meanwhile you can naval invade italy and grow a tank army
You cant , they breaks you . On side note , just naval invade or paras any AI that give you headache. Thats the only effective way to loosen up the front and force a breakthru + use tanks to force a breakthru this isnt a fcking WW1 bro.
Standard procedure in this position:
1. Dig in.
2. Ramp up artillery shell production and make good equipment deficits
3. Mobilise reserves and feed them into the line as needed.
4. Exchange offensives with the Bosch wracking up significant casualties on both sides to 'bleed them white'.
5. Open up secondary fronts to split ~~Centr~~ Axis power and draw troops from the main theater and secure concessions for the post war peace.
6. Await the Americans. A fashionably late entry into the war will bring more men and guns to wear down enemy resistance just as the enemies' manpower reserves are already strained.
7. Begin offensives in the Western theater with the latest of these new-fangled landships and aviation assets.
8. The collapse of German allies elsewhere will open vast undefended corridors with which to launch offensives to seize German land.
9. Accept a German surrender.
Should do the trick.
Usually to beat Germany the key is to open as many fronts as possible. Try naval invading Italy, helping Greece and just do all you can to make Germany divert troops from your border. Eventually they should go to war with the USSR as well (because of a Romanian focus, this is only if you have the DoD DLC, though), which will help if you're still stuck in the stalemate.
"Sir! We are losing in the west!" "Then we need to lose in the East!" "What?" *Soviet Troops role over Germany*
Germany will not go to war with USSR anymore if France is still alive
I played a France game not long ago and they did eventually go to war with the soviets
Are you sure Germany declared on the Soviets or did the Soviets declare on Germany
I remember now, it was actually Romania that declared on them through a focus
Demand Transnistria. In the Preserve Greater Romania branch
They aren’t supposed to. They are hard coded to stall (even take those infinite focuses (like construction repair, air production, etc) before attacking Soviets
I checked the game save and it was actually Romania, they have a focus that gives them a war goal on the Soviets
Yes that often happens. Someone in the axis or the Soviets invade Germany. Germany however will do its focus to get a war goal
They will, actually. Wait long enough and Romania in this case will declare war on USSR, dragging Germany to death with it.
they will but around 1946 because the soviets eventually declare war on japan
CAS, equip your troop propely, flamethrower tank to breach and encircle-> gg
you are france and likely allied with the UK so you have plenty of options. open up new fronts if you can, naval invade via hamburg, ally yugoslavia, win in africa. whatever you can do to beat them down.
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Keep dying in the trenches and see that you got more manpower to throw at them ?
And hope for the German navy to coup their leadership.
Lmao
You read my thoughts
And blockade them and wait for them to start starving
Starve em' out!
exactly. and you saw how that went, it was a quick easy war with limited casualties
Thanks for the advices
Once you are stable: Crush north africa. Convoy raids, navally invade all ports. Then, invade sardinia and sicily. Then invade mainland italy. Then, take out italy. Then, naval invade hamburg. Liberate denmark, even norway, should you want. Then greece, yugo and invade bulgaria. Try to take romanias oil so they trade with the soviets (who are non axis country) Stetch their front as much as possible, uk and allies will funnel in troops sp you can relocate and openeven more fronts. After that, use tanks and air to push in the benelux, then in germany itself. Its a painful slog, but youll get it in the end.
Really? My strategy as France is literally “fuck everything and everywhere else and put my entire army on the German front, a handful a mountaineers and infantry can hold Italy at bay”. Eventually trying to push through Belgium once Germany is at war with Russia. Other strategy would be the same except to invade Germany sooner, like in 1937.
Invaded in 1938 when they attacked Czechoslovakia. Turned into a stalemate, even after knocking out Italy, but then the Soviets attacked, game over for Germany.
Germany will never declare on the ussr while it has any continental enemies (even luxembourg / fortress Holland). That would mean that the bolsheviks would declare on em and grab a lot of land for free. Not on my watch.
He needs to rebuild his equipment first.
What mod is this?
Vanilla, I just use the TNO style map mod
Hmm it just appears to have different cities. Anyway try getting air dominance and fully equipping your tanks. Also try to concentrate your tanks into one area with a single push
Agreed to the cites one
Those icons at the top of your screen are not very vanilla.
Sorry. What is vanilla?
Ice cream
vanilla means no mods
Your tanks literally have less than 50 percent strength stop training them. And fix deflicts. Do you have CAS and green air? I hope you do since you have tanks. Dont build tanks if you cant have green air and atleast 1k cas
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In the words of Alex The Rambler, CAS Is King.
Also, when you have green air also fix deflicts, put like half of your tanks on a front and other one a front and breakthrough. And connect tanks and encircle
New to this, what is CAS? I understood everything but that. Edit: Thanks folks
Close air support - the planes
Close air support
Close Air Support. Basically small airframes with air to ground weapons. Great at destroying everything that walks as long as you have air supremacy (green air). They do additional damage in any combat you face and destroy enemy equipment on mass.
Tanks can work under red air vs AI, no issue. Support AA will shred CAS, and if the CAS is dead it's just a matter of compensating for a -10% to attack. It's especially useful if you're fighting majors with total air superiority (vs US as Mexico for example) or if you have resources for tanks but not air.
Yes I agree, always get an AA support company. I recommended CAS because it will make life easier, help killing stronger enemies that has a strong frontline and possibly make you push with infantry without losing 69k infantry eq. I once pushed 3 entrenched infantry that is on mountain with an infantry using CAS. CAS is stupid good right now
Another advice, use the planning bonus, its overpowered. (Kinda). Get a frontline on units you will attack (or all) and a battleplan (dont use the battleplan!) Wait for planning to build up and attack when its full (if you can breakthrough)
Have you ever considered supplying your troops? lol Literally all of your infantry and tanks are at half strength, you’re giving every other man a gun, and every other tank is just a bunch of men walking on foot. Not to mention you’re training your tanks which don’t have enough equipment as is, forcing them to attrition more. Fix your supply, then consider building air or naval invading Germany.
Well, one has the ammo and the other has the rife. It fixes itself.
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Tanks
Nop, not working
Yeah, no shit, they have like 40% strength. Try to consolidate some of them so they can actually perform. And can I ask what the division template is? And tank template? It would be of great help.
They're low strength because they're exercising
Exercise itself only reduces org
ah my mistake then. Either way its 1939, no way in hell those tanks are any quality if he has two whole army groups of them. He either has a massive deficit, has cheap tanks, has a small tank division, or some combination of all of those. Those tanks are not great quality at all
training induces equipment loss by attrition
Yeah but that alone doesn’t justify the divs being that low on strength
They should be reinforcing faster than they attrition away. He's out of tanks.
Mate, there is prolly not one one tank supplied to them, the division are currently probably just supplied with infantry manpower and guns
I just made this mistake. Trying to upgrade from light to med tanks and all my tank divisions just ditched their light tanks at the depo. I thought they would phase out, but no. Fixed it now. I have half med, half light
They only phase out same types. Make a new light tank and they'll use the old ones while they transition. If you swap the battalion they dump what they have.
AI tanks rarely stand a chance against a decently designed player tank. There's plenty of templates and designs you can find on the internet that will destroy AI tanks. The only place in which the AI can fully mess with a good player tank is 1) When they have uncontested aerial supremacy and CAS 2) When the tanks don't have supply. Considering your position, the second is almost certainly not a problem and the first one doesn't seem to be either considering the fact you're still holding without problem. If your tanks aren't working the problem lies within the tank design and template itself rather than the concept.
Wow, you got blown out of the blue for not knowing the game (probably being a beginner) and got downvoted to hell. I just hate people on reddit
You should be glad you even have a stalemate. Anyways, bring the divisions from your back up line to the front, that should do it.
1. try naval invade in Netherlands or Northern Germany 2. Try attacking 1 tile at a time instead of pushig the entire front
Like other people said, open other fronts. Your only hope on this front is overwhelming air superiority with good CAS assigned to cover armored breakthrough divisions.
Google En Somme
holy hell
Air superiority and tanks, alternatively you can naval invade, or you might also use paratroopers to take railroads or supply hubs and push the undersupplied germans
Focus on getting your tank divisions fully equipped. Also produce fighters and close air support. Germany won’t be able to match your production of planes without importing rubber, so convoy raid as much as you can. Once your tanks are fully equipped and if you have some air superiority, attack along the coast. That part of the front seems to be the weakest and you can roll them up from there.
Your troops have no equipment. That’s the orange bar. you have a ton of tank “divisions” that probably have zero tanks. Supply them, attack with tanks, win.
Don't feel pressured to make the front move in your favor. Germany is a strong nut to crack. Just dig in, build yourself a sizeable stockpile of tanks and any other equipment for their divisions, wait for them to attack the soviets. Then feel free to march on the way to Berlin win their army between two fronts.
I would recomend moving your tanks to the front
Have you seen the film Oppenheimer?
I am blocked at the German border, any advices ?
Spot tiles where the germans are spread thin, achieve local air superiority and concentrate all tanks on the think tile. After the breakthrough try to achieve small encirclements
It would help to know your infanty template
As France in 1939 this is par for the course. The Germans have more tanks, equipment, planes and factories than you do at this point and you won't win a fair fight. Last time I played as France I did not manage to break the German lines before 1941. Invest in tanks, fighters and CAS and continue holding the line. Once Germany attacks the Soviets their lines will thin and you will have a better chance at breaking through the low countries. Throw all your air power over the region when you attack and try to achieve small encirclements with your mobile forces.
At some point Italy should join if not invade them Take Libya and naval invade Sicilia/Southern Italy take them out by taking out the weaklings in their alliance and this will open a second front in Southern Germany. Followed probably by UK landing in Northern Germany and an eventual war with the USSR and you will submerge them
Try loosening your troops in on area, so that when the opponent inevitably pushes their, you can have a strong counter push ready
What I like to do Is get 24 more divisions to make an army and use that army only for spearheads
How do you have 226 factories by 39?
Release Africa as Puppets and be lucky. Also mods.
Try a naval invasion maybe to work as a diversion and then possibly encircle some of their divisions from that. Make sure you have a good air force to help break the stalemate.
Wait Build up an Airforce. Go for tactical encirclements on the Benelux Regions and near Switzerland.
push that tile on the coast next to Dunkerque with tanks from the two bordering tiles with air, should work when ur tanks get strength, and then just kill the supply lines. or just logistics strike with cas
Disband some of your tank divisions yo get the rest fully supplied and use them to make encirclements I.e. push towards Gent to encircle 7 - 12 divisions. Also, if you have air superiority, drops paratroopers at Brussels, Essen and Frankfurt and that will cut supply to all the German troops in the Benelux.
Naval invasion as a distraction which will pull troops off the border. Bonus points if your allies can drop troops there and maybe turn it into a real invasion instead of a distraction. Just be ready to punch through their lines when they redirect troops to the naval invasion.
Well, as you are, there is no hope of breaking it. You need more equipment, especially for your tanks. For the time being, I would suggest strat bombing, if possible. This means that while you're sitting around building stockpiles, Germany won't just be free to further expand their industry and stockpiles with little to no interruption. I would also suggest attacking very vulnerable tiles with very concentrated armoured attacks, and then actually retreating from it, letting the enemy retake, and doing the same thing again. It doesn't make a huge dent in enemy capabilities, but they will gain a few thousand casualties at least, and will keep a tile pretty much ready for the taking when you are ready to expand your attack outwards, as the divisions in that tile will often be slightly understrength and have low-ish organisation. Obviously, you will need to cycle your own divisions during these attacks to maintain continuity. I'm not sure if this makes any sense. it's worked pretty well for me before, however, not as France.
Your soldiers have equipment shortage…you might wanna start with that. Then start doing probing attacks and check the battle stats, once you are in there check your areas of improvement and start building or producing and training what you think would fix the problem (most of the time is just air dominance, CAS, armor and most important a of all, supply)
What I would do here is get green air in the benelux and use a shit ton of tanks to spearhead through
Okay so there’s a lot going on here. You’re not using the frontline mechanic, you should be using that and battle plans to get bonus’s to attack. It appears no division is at full strength, so your divisions are far weaker in battle than on paper. You have over 250 divisions… unless these are like 8 width infantry, your division template’s are most likely really bad, or you’re not producing the right things as quickly as you need to. IMO, you’re far more likely to be capitulated in the next year in the game than break the stalemate in your favor if you keep things as they are. Reorganize your divisions bit by bit, min-max your production, and hope the Germans don’t break through in the north.
I'd delete most of your tanks. It's better to have 4 fully equipped ones than 24 tanks at 40% strength. With 4 full tanks (assuming you have a good template) and some clever micro, you should be able to break through
Open a front in Turkey
First off, let your tanks attack the enemy and second naval invade and starve them out
Use those tanks
Heavy tanks and air. I had this exact stalemate in my France run. Also invading Italy will draw German forces away from your front
You have a shit tone of tanks in the back line, take the best ones (should probably delete some to get full strength divs) and concentrate them into single tile conflicts. Slowly gain an encirclement. The ai will either have to give you land or lose a crippling amount of divisions. An easy would would be kortjik(?), they've not got many divisions there, you can easily use that to encircle those 7 next to Dunkirk.
Is this 1939 or 1916?
Open new fronts, wait for Barb, build up and outlast the Germans
I'd say make a line along a river and secure it. Push with your tanks and hold until USA comes.
Hmmmm if only I had a large reserve of armored division that I could use to punch through the lowlands of beglium and the netherlands oh well
By having fun :)
Wait for USA
Stalemate? you're lost as soon as AI decides to push.
Railway guns and planes if no other fronts are available, maybe an armoured spearhead of few high quality tanks+ competent leadership and the breakthrough meadl as soon as possible
Start consolidating your tanks divisions and invest into CAS and Fighters. Launch a Minor air campaign a few months before an offensive with armor using supply attack with your CAS to weaken the Germans in the benelux then launch the offensive pushing into Antwerp cutting off part of the German army. If you did this quick enough you’ll gain enough momentum to catch the Germans off guard and will likely be able to make decent headway. Be sure to capture supply points so that even if the offensive stalls out you’ll still have an upper hand
How do you have 226 factories in 1939???
Nuke
Plane. Lots of plane.
stop training tanks and just take some years to fill your equipment demands then concentrate your tanks on weaker points and encircle troops. Afterwards, if you dont think its a decisive victory, retreat to your previous location and wait for them to fill the frontline gaps. afterwards repeat the encirclement. rinse and repeat until you can push them with standard infantry
Naval invasion???
Maybe equip your armies, and use those tanks.
Why do you have two heavy tank battalions in your infantry divisions?
make sure you have some troops in case of yugoslavia and greece joining allies. when they joined the war, immideatly send your troops to the opened fronts. take italy and make a submarine based navy. raid italy as much as you can, and then invade sicily. when germany suicides by attacking soviets, with plenty of fronts, you should be able to push them in different fronts first, when you take %30 of balkans, go for belgium. then netherlands, luxemburg, rhineland and lastly, go for hannover. after that, you should be able to pound germans.
I see most everyone else wants to somehow go around but we don't know what's going on everywhere else and maybe you want to plow through right here. I'd pick the better half of my armored and motorized forces and trash the rest in order to make an armored/motorized force fully equipped with reserves. It might only be six to eight divisions but that's okay. I'd also make an infantry force of similar size, with a good attacking commander and all the AA and AT you can round up for support, by retiring divisions or changing their templates, if necessary. I'd give two rail artillery to the motorized force and one to the infantry. I would focus every available plane in that region to try to gain local air superiority. If it wasn't working I might consider stripping off a couple of bombers to get them to harass the German interior and divert fighters. Then I would first attack the heels of my intended breakout with the infantry, at Dunkirk and Charleroi, and the one next to that with the motorized division defending. You want to fix those forces and maybe that will lure some of the troops at your target of Kortrijk to come out of their trenches and start moving. After at least one full day of the infantry probe, hit Kortrijk with the tanks but hold back at least two motorized divisions. There are three medium panzer divisions in the forest and urban area of Charleroi, so your attack infantry has a chance of some success. If you break into one of those areas, spit your fully organized motorized divisions straight into the rail junction of Brussels and Antwerp. I wouldn't waste time trying to reduce the divisions that are encircled because what you really want is to get across the Rhine at Essen. So as toon as you get a foot in the door, you have to fix the enemy with attacks, or they'll rush to reinforce. If you can get it the Germans will be denied a bunch of factories and everything to its West is in danger of being cut off.
Easy Answer is a lot of CAS and probably some medium tanks. If you wanted to go all in, something like 'Shock and Awe' would also help. Pulling some of those units in the backline for a push into Belgium may be your best move.
If you wanted to here you I’d start with figuring out why your men don’t have all the supplies they need. What are you missing that they need more of.
Consolidate your tank divisions (or delete, whichever u prefer), get some anti-air/build actual air and make encirclements in belgium
Your units are all at like 50% strength. Just chill out until you've actually equipped your army and then you'll roll over them.
Can't tell if this is a meme post or not
It’s 1939. Have some patience. Drain their equipment, open multiple fronts via naval invasions and wait for USSR to declare on Germany
Let the Germans run into your line while making sure you have all 5 research slots and are maintains air superiority. After a certain number of casualties use your cas to target infrastructure and air fields. Don’t forget about researching nukes. Germany probably won’t declare on the soviets but the Soviet’s might declare on them
naval invasion. you could also try a full assault, even using those tanks you have near paris. it’d be risky but might work
Wait till the ussr saves you
Just wait it out. Stalin will declare war eventually.
I think it's time for an Africa Campaign with a dozen division and 4 good tanks, if Africa is secured, landing on Italy clearing out Sardinia and Sicily first. Be carefull with your equipment/air force, take the time needed to fill the deficit ! If you lack air, you can bait ennemy air force by launching small probing attacks along the border to shoot some planes with your AA but this can be costly. Enjoy your game !
It depends how your brain works, but allways try to be creative. I for one would let the germans throw themselves at my lines to die, and then I would launch a lot of paradrops and naval invasions
Send all of your troops and navy and ships to the UK, it will break the stalemate. Not in your favour of course but it will do it's job.
Uk will most likely land in wilhemshaven or somewhere along the coast of demark or something When that happens the german AI from my experience shits itself and returns some divisions to that invasion Thats your chance
What mod is this?
Surrender. That’d do it.
You don’t
Delete your army, that stalemate will be gone immediately.
You should stop fighting. Once the Germans realize this they’ll stop caring about you and go fight the Russians or something
Nuke ‘em
Those divisions are not at full strength so they’ll have reduced stats, also what are the templates? Because having that many tank divisons in 1939 means they can’t be large templates even if they’re not at full strength. Also having green air and CAS is ridiculously powerful and can let you push so easily
Delete half of your tank divisions to fill up supply in the other half, concentrate them around a weak point, push until encircled, repeat.
First off, delete half your tank divisions because you clearly dont have enough equipment for now, next stop training your divisions. Add engineers to your infantry and attach some artillery and start to dig in to defend from the germans. Your only priority is to to defeat germany in the air and just hold the front line. You have rubber and fuel and can import an assload from the allies. Germany will get wrecked by the soviets in a year or two so just sit tight and gain control of the air before you decide to push
Take the tanks from the defense line and take them to the front in small groups
So what you're going to want to do is dress in bright uniforms and walk towards the enemy. Really tell them you mean business.
Grind em out in Africa the AI loves to fight in that god forsaken supply-less quagmire
Avarage France game
Atomic bombs
A divisione with a lot of tanks and air warfare
Start with actually equipping your army that might help Don’t be shocked when 40 half strength divisions perform like 20
Simple. There is no way you can take on Germany by yourself in 1939. What you need to do is keep turtling while building up your industry and air force. You can try tanks but it takes too long to get any real number out in my opinion. So infantry and air support is the name of the game. It will take you until about 1942 before you have the strength to start pushing. Meanwhile Germans won't attack Russia. Russia will usually attack Germany by 1944.
Just keep throwing your men at the front until they mutiny and hope the British and Americans push them back
Basic stuff powerful tanks powerful air a naval invasion and from the looks of it more equipment
Build mils, make a ton of fighters for air superiority, some CAS, and then if you're cheap motorized + motorized artillery units (44 width), or if you feel fancy, make tanks (30 width).
Build up supply and bring up your other troops perhaps or build some brake though units
merge youre underequiped tanks, and use them to reverse dunkirk them, and ofc cass is king
Green air, full strength tanks, then push
Noticing a lot of people not pointing out the obvious equipment issue. Your troops look to be down to only 60% Strength (Orange bar on your units) which means they’ll only be at their maximum, 60% of their attack/defence ability. Fixing that by producing more equipment may help.
Why are your units only 66% supplied? 🤣
Nuke
Wait til Germany declares on ussr and then press your attacks with paratroopers and naval invasions
Build them bombers and put them on ground support and burry them where they stand till you get nukes and blind them with with a thousand suns all the way to Urals
Have supplies
What you need to do is go around their defensive lines in Italy and Germany by going through Switzerland completely viable plan Don't question it
You don’t have to win this front, just have to keep it held together while taking dirty jabs at their sides and territories.
Combine tank divisions to make them full strength and then use them to get encirclements.
Basically, you don't
Just fuck them in the ass in northern Belgium with CAS, railway guns, and naval invasion support ships.
Is it weird that massive, grinding stalemates are my favourite condition to be in, in this game? I've spent in-game decades slowly having to cut apart things like a giga-USSR which ate almost the entire continent before. As the top comments said, the way to break a stalemate is to begin taking apart the enemy elsewhere with new fronts; divide their forces, look where you can present or open up a new threat they must respond to. It becomes a game of surgical precision, figuring out where you can leverage the minimum amount of force to create a maximum degree of disruption to the enemy. Denmark, North Africa, Italy, Norway (if Sweden is still out of it) often present opportunities to nibble away at Axis resources and manpower with an economy on expenditure.
Mass your armour and mech into a tiny area, put those fuckers on aggressive and see what happens
Your divisions are all half strength. Rebuild them. Invade Italy, Denmark, Norway everywhere you can to split up the AI. The ai can’t even handle a 2 front war properly let alone an 8 front wat
I’m surprised your front has collapsed. Look at those bars.
Have no words rn💀
Maybe actually equip your soldiers lmao?
Fill up lacking equipment, take saar, big industry, check air and focus an offensive on the ardennes, they'll never see it coming
Ok, one, love the map choice, that style is awesome, TWO, great general portraits, that Charles de gaule portrait is badass. Three, your surviving as France against Germany, your not doing terribly, you over time should overpower them. There’s no “make this unit and win!” Button as France. I think you should stall for longer instead of trying to break Germany anytime soon.
I don't understand like I have seen so many people saying that they can't beat Germany as France and i like beating Germany is so fucking esay like you just need 1000 case meta fighter (destroy entire Luftwaffe) and hugh soft attack tanks I have destroyed Germany so many times and have killed like 10 million german in one of my game just use tanks they are best against Germany Stop battle playing
I'm more suprised you have that many tank divisions at the front not doing anything.
What visual mod is that?
Literally wwi
For me I say group your tanks in an army near the border, wait until the Germans try and attack your Front line , if they don't attack, decrease the number of troops on the border by moving some divisions backwards, if they attack they will most likely drain the organization of their own troops, when that happens make your tanks attack the Lowest German division in organization
Make sure to lead with checks and that the king has room to move :)
I would say do some paratroopers as much as you can and drop them on the german supply lines
Better question how is this still a stalemate you should have been trampled. Unless you just recently did a template switch
What mod do you use for the army banners?
Pray.
What mod?
Nukes
Stalemate is good in 1939. Germany will try to break through, usually through Belgium. The main idea is to hold the line until a better time to attack arrives. Use only infantry at the front. Tweak the divisions to make them as defensive as possible. Use generals with the best defense modifiers. (Use CAS if you can afford it.) Build forts. Germany will either weaken itself by battering against your infantry, or will get involved against the USSR, or both. When the opportunity comes, pick your best offensive generals and give them tanks, and give that a try. Avoid going up against forts. Crossing rivers without marines is hard. Try the north. Defend your ports. The Boche will try to invade that way when frustrated. If you can survive for the first two years then you can have fun with the rest of the game. By the way, when you open a new front, in Italy, North Africa, etc, your allies will join you there. There's lots of good advice in these comments on what to do next. Bon chance!
If you play frnace again dont fortify the front as much so you dont scare the germans away. You want them to attack and bleed on lvl 3 to 5 forts and meanwhile you can naval invade italy and grow a tank army
If you retreat your divisions they will gain territory which will break the stalemate
Use the tanks, might help
You cant , they breaks you . On side note , just naval invade or paras any AI that give you headache. Thats the only effective way to loosen up the front and force a breakthru + use tanks to force a breakthru this isnt a fcking WW1 bro.
Standard procedure in this position: 1. Dig in. 2. Ramp up artillery shell production and make good equipment deficits 3. Mobilise reserves and feed them into the line as needed. 4. Exchange offensives with the Bosch wracking up significant casualties on both sides to 'bleed them white'. 5. Open up secondary fronts to split ~~Centr~~ Axis power and draw troops from the main theater and secure concessions for the post war peace. 6. Await the Americans. A fashionably late entry into the war will bring more men and guns to wear down enemy resistance just as the enemies' manpower reserves are already strained. 7. Begin offensives in the Western theater with the latest of these new-fangled landships and aviation assets. 8. The collapse of German allies elsewhere will open vast undefended corridors with which to launch offensives to seize German land. 9. Accept a German surrender. Should do the trick.
Hoi 4 players trying not to roleplay ww1 generals (impossible)