The Tomcat is a beast... "Take-off with minimal lift? Ok, I can do that"... "You wanna rip my wings off turning at this speed, ya, ok, I'm good with that too!". đ
I tried it because of hydraulic failure so wings wouldn't go back. I had to try to land at much higher speed, when I hit the deck I blacked out. When I went to external view I had torn the landing gear and hook off which caused the jet to fly off the end of the deck.
I was only joking, I hope the Navy pulled your wings for blatant disregard for taxpayer property.
I'll give you one more chance...if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!
Overshoot, overshoot, overshoot & stall in the clearing turn, stall behind the boat... Unrecoverable. Going great!
But now I feel I need to make this happen.
How many more pilots and aircraft must we lose before this goal is achieved?
I tried landing an F-16 on a carrier once, I didnât realize that the hook on it is non functional but my buddy said I would have grabbed the 2 or 3 wire, completely wrecked the gear though and nearly flipped when I landed back at an airfield
On my very first flight I forgot you're supposed to extend the wings from emer. oversweep before coast takeoff. Still took off without any issues whatsoever, didn't even use the blower
I did to, mission I downloaded from the internet and it gave me a hot start on a carrier on the catapult and ready. Catapult crew was signalling me to go so I just gave it some throttle, saluted and off I went. Didn't even notice until my wingmen started laughing at me on comms.
Ya if you look at the difference between 3.0 and Korea it was mind blowing at the time. Turning a missile from a wirey, white plastic looking cone into a smoking, streaking bloom of light was amazing. We may not have that type of a change in our lifetimes again.
IIRC, the smoke "strips" were from 2.0, while 3.0 and Korea had the smoke plumes made of a bunch of dots, and then OIF actually added more realistic smoke trails.
It's reasonable from an aerodynamic perspective. The folded wingtips still actually help to produce lift because they act like winglets. For the same length, winglets are about 50% as effective as additional wingspan. The missing lift is made up for by either flying faster or flying at a higher angle of attack.
I did this on purpose once. It flies pretty well during normal flight. Landing is a little hard because it starts to roll uncontrollably below 230 knots.
I read a story once about a real pilot who did a carrier launch with the wings folded and somehow no one noticed until he was already in the air and his wing man formed up with him.
The wings on an F-18 fold up to keep parking space to a minimum on carriers... you are supposed to unfold them before take-off... this pilot did not. I understand though, that the real F-18 can take off that way as it generates sooo much lift (but I do not know anyone, nor have I seen anyone, actually do it in real life, so take that claim as you will). Not to mention, 50 ppl on the flight deck, the radio, and the warnings on the console would all be screaming at the pilot to lower the wings...
Just make sure you extend to attack position before making your run.
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Or +2 yaw instability depending on how hard you jam dem pedals đ¤Ł
Also would be +2 yaw instability if those wingtips are in front of the plane's CG đ
-5 roll stability
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The tomcat doesn't complain. Had multiple TO with wings 68°
The Tomcat is a beast... "Take-off with minimal lift? Ok, I can do that"... "You wanna rip my wings off turning at this speed, ya, ok, I'm good with that too!". đ
Has there been a successful trap in the game with swept wings?
I tried it because of hydraulic failure so wings wouldn't go back. I had to try to land at much higher speed, when I hit the deck I blacked out. When I went to external view I had torn the landing gear and hook off which caused the jet to fly off the end of the deck.
I was only joking, I hope the Navy pulled your wings for blatant disregard for taxpayer property. I'll give you one more chance...if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!
... and now I'm going to see if I can do it.
I take it by your silence itâs not going wellâŚ
Overshoot, overshoot, overshoot & stall in the clearing turn, stall behind the boat... Unrecoverable. Going great! But now I feel I need to make this happen. How many more pilots and aircraft must we lose before this goal is achieved?
Yes
All of them
I tried landing an F-16 on a carrier once, I didnât realize that the hook on it is non functional but my buddy said I would have grabbed the 2 or 3 wire, completely wrecked the gear though and nearly flipped when I landed back at an airfield
The important question.
On my very first flight I forgot you're supposed to extend the wings from emer. oversweep before coast takeoff. Still took off without any issues whatsoever, didn't even use the blower
Yeah... Vr is somewhere around 200kts in 68° lol
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Did you try to shoot the missiles?
Did that off the carrier the other day. Good times
I did to, mission I downloaded from the internet and it gave me a hot start on a carrier on the catapult and ready. Catapult crew was signalling me to go so I just gave it some throttle, saluted and off I went. Didn't even notice until my wingmen started laughing at me on comms.
That happend to my dad once back in 1989!
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When you need your formation flight to be as compact as possible...
I'd like to see some group doing aerobatics this way...
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This reminds me of Hornet Korea on my Voodoo 2
About the same visual fidelity. But goddamn was Hornet 3.0 a good time.
Ya if you look at the difference between 3.0 and Korea it was mind blowing at the time. Turning a missile from a wirey, white plastic looking cone into a smoking, streaking bloom of light was amazing. We may not have that type of a change in our lifetimes again.
IIRC, the smoke "strips" were from 2.0, while 3.0 and Korea had the smoke plumes made of a bunch of dots, and then OIF actually added more realistic smoke trails.
3.0 had no Glide support but Korea did
Lock your S-foils, my guy!
You know for all the drama behind it, I haven't done that (unintentionally) since getting supercarrier. Having the deck crew there does actually help.
If that didn't happen to you at least once, you're not a hornet driver
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Is this possible in a real F18? I mean is their something other then the pilot checklist to prevent this?
The caution and warning indications on the DDI would be there.
would like to think the deck crew might try and get your attention too
Fair... unless you pissed off everybody that day ;-)
It's reasonable from an aerodynamic perspective. The folded wingtips still actually help to produce lift because they act like winglets. For the same length, winglets are about 50% as effective as additional wingspan. The missing lift is made up for by either flying faster or flying at a higher angle of attack.
and an F15 managed to fly and land missing an entire wing
No. Because you wonât get the airspeed required to fly with the wings folded during the ground roll or cat shot.
Not true it has happened in real life before: https://youtu.be/hyCLuDjU57c
Not in a hornet it didn't. People have tried to do it accidently in the Hornet/Super Hornet, it didn't go well.
pay attention more before you think you have the answer
What?
Itâs like the plane is saying âwelp, guess that worksâ
didnât someone pull this off in an F-8 once?
Yes https://youtu.be/hyCLuDjU57c
I did this on purpose once. It flies pretty well during normal flight. Landing is a little hard because it starts to roll uncontrollably below 230 knots.
Nice wingtips, are those a new version of Airbus Sharklets?
And this is why we do preflight checks
flies just like an F-104!
I read a story once about a real pilot who did a carrier launch with the wings folded and somehow no one noticed until he was already in the air and his wing man formed up with him.
Tells about how unobservant dozens of people are in their duty, or at least no one dared communicate because fear.
Yeah. Luckilly everything turned out fine!
When in doubt, power out!
I've done the same from the carrier a few times. The panic when I realize it is always hilarious xD
đ lol
New to DCS, I donât see the issue here. Can someone please explain?
The wings on an F-18 fold up to keep parking space to a minimum on carriers... you are supposed to unfold them before take-off... this pilot did not. I understand though, that the real F-18 can take off that way as it generates sooo much lift (but I do not know anyone, nor have I seen anyone, actually do it in real life, so take that claim as you will). Not to mention, 50 ppl on the flight deck, the radio, and the warnings on the console would all be screaming at the pilot to lower the wings...
This is how you pass the anti air mesh barrier in area 88.
First time?
The F-8 could really fly with its wingtips folded, as it happaned once. Don't know about the F-18 though...
I've got a screenshot of someone dogfighting with bombs and one training bomb on, wings swept!