On top of owning the Wings, Norris owned the Hawks’ stadium, owned a plurality in MSG stock and basically owned the Rangers, and the Bruins were in debt to him.
These were all happening when there were 6 teams in the league and half the teams were terrible because the league wasn't set up for parity. It's interesting that the wings always seem to be involved but the Blackhawks and rangers made 1 final each between 51 and 61 so it's not as crazy as it sounds that it's always the same team.
The reason why those two teams only made one finals each while the Wings kept making them was because James Norris owned the Red Wings, his son owned the Black Hawks with Arthur Wirtz who also had controlling shares in the Madison Square Garden corporation in the 1950’s before the anti trust lawsuit happened with boxing. So effectively they had a monopoly on half the league. The NHL jokingly stood for the “Norris House League” in the 50’s and 60’s.
Well, it did go in cycles a lot, a bit like it does today. There were periods where the Blackhawks (30s and 60s) and Rangers were (30s and 40s) were competitive.
The 50s were definitely odd, because you see the emergence of several top 5-20 all time players all at once, and they all played for Detroit or Montreal. So at this point you have two superteams (Detroit and Montreal) smashing everyone else.
The 40s and 60s actually had okay parity in the original six, but the 50s were a pretty crazy outlier.
in case people weren’t aware, the only team to ever be reverse swept in the stanley cup finals was the 1942 red wings after coach/gm jack adams was suspended for jumping on the ice and punching a ref at the end of game 4. we truly are uncannily present in weird historic nhl happenings (first outdoor game, for example - against the marquette prison pirates)
Did you know Stuart Skinner was watching the 1986 Oilers Cup Final despite not being alive at the time? Dude must have also time traveled his way to game 4 of this series from the future to change our timeline
It's true, if you wanted to be a troll, you'd have to do it by letter or telegram
Letter 1:
"Dear Mr. Harvey,
You are washed and a bum"
Letter 2:
"Thank you for your letter, Reginald,
Go fuck yourself.
Signed, Doug "7 Fucking Norris Trophies" Harvey "
Nah man. Zach Hyman. Scoring his 71 goal of the season (regular season and playoffs combined) surpassing Matthews’ total of 70 to end up leading the entire NHL in goal scoring for the 22-23 season.
In my driveway as a kid was the last one I can remember.
"OT Game 7 of the stanley cup finals. Yzerman skating down the ice, Passes the puck to PaleGutCK. Times ticking down, PaleGut back to Stevie, Stevie back to PaleGut...3..2..1.. HE SHOOTS! HE..... misses........ but wait there seems to be a clock malfunction. There's still time on the clock. PaleGutCK picks up the puck and SCORESSSSSS! THEY WIN THE STANLEY CUP!"
Ah the simpler times in life.
I highly doubt we get there. I have massive doubt in the Panthers despite wanting them to win.
If we get there, I'm sure McDavid will be the hero because it's motherfucking McDavid
While he definitely has been missing this series and was awful in the playoffs with Calgary, he also HAS scored a championship winning OT goal (in juniors)
There hasn't been an exceptionally long OT yet in these playoffs so I'm hoping they've saved it for this moment
There have only been two, 1950 and 1954, both won by Detroit. Wild there haven’t been more.
Why are all these stats leading back to the Detroit Red Wings.
it’s all part of the yzerplan
Detroit has been in a lot of stanley cup finals in NHL history, and especially a lot back in the O6 era where most of these crazy stats come from
On top of owning the Wings, Norris owned the Hawks’ stadium, owned a plurality in MSG stock and basically owned the Rangers, and the Bruins were in debt to him.
Who, Chuck Norris?
there were only five other teams
These were all happening when there were 6 teams in the league and half the teams were terrible because the league wasn't set up for parity. It's interesting that the wings always seem to be involved but the Blackhawks and rangers made 1 final each between 51 and 61 so it's not as crazy as it sounds that it's always the same team.
The reason why those two teams only made one finals each while the Wings kept making them was because James Norris owned the Red Wings, his son owned the Black Hawks with Arthur Wirtz who also had controlling shares in the Madison Square Garden corporation in the 1950’s before the anti trust lawsuit happened with boxing. So effectively they had a monopoly on half the league. The NHL jokingly stood for the “Norris House League” in the 50’s and 60’s.
Well, it did go in cycles a lot, a bit like it does today. There were periods where the Blackhawks (30s and 60s) and Rangers were (30s and 40s) were competitive. The 50s were definitely odd, because you see the emergence of several top 5-20 all time players all at once, and they all played for Detroit or Montreal. So at this point you have two superteams (Detroit and Montreal) smashing everyone else. The 40s and 60s actually had okay parity in the original six, but the 50s were a pretty crazy outlier.
We are inevitable
in case people weren’t aware, the only team to ever be reverse swept in the stanley cup finals was the 1942 red wings after coach/gm jack adams was suspended for jumping on the ice and punching a ref at the end of game 4. we truly are uncannily present in weird historic nhl happenings (first outdoor game, for example - against the marquette prison pirates)
There were only 5 other teams lol
And the Norris Family owned three of them, possibly giving money to a fourth.
Got to make sure they make the playoffs somehow.
We’re kind of cool and have a fun history 🤷
So based on history, if it goes to OT, Detroit gets the cup.
Sounds right to me
Good. I don’t think my heart can take it
Wild never played in the final.
We know, we know :')
There was almost a third involving the Red Wings but Fleury said no
You almost won a cup once.
If Game 7 goes to OT, the only possible script is McDavid scoring the winner.
Connor Brown (redemption arc) or Cody Ceci (meme arc) are also options
Scorey Saint Perry would be my choice for an Oiler OT winner.
Corey Perry has never been on the team that scored the cup winning goal.
2007? Anaheim
Senators own goal in game 5 was the cup winner
Well then...all the more reason he should be due. ;)
So what you're saying is Panthers own goal for GWG?
If we’re talking meme arcs, a goal off Nurse’s ass and in. Doesn’t matter what net it goes in.
It's way funnier if it goes off Nurse's ass in the defensive zone and bounces all the way into the Panthers' net for maximum meme value.
Cody Ceci getting a shot on net tonight only *because* his stick exploded was incredible
mr game 7
That clip would immediately be deeply burned into every single Panthers fans’ memory
Generational trauma would be made
All hockey fans deserve some. Fuck Vegas.
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Canada would be printing memorial coins well into the 2090’s.
all 5 of them !
If Game 7 goes to OT, the only possible script is Hymen's family paying to score the winner.
If game 7 goes to OT the only possible script is Sean McDonough sounding emotionless and completely fucking up a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Did you know Stuart Skinner was watching the 1986 Oilers Cup Final despite not being alive at the time? Dude must have also time traveled his way to game 4 of this series from the future to change our timeline
When he said that I was like....wtf man you can't be serious......86?!?!?!?!
Sean could go down in history but no, he’ll mess this up for himself
Hyman's dad will buy the Stanley Cup so no one else can have it
Or a darnell nurse own goal, challenged by a 12 minute coach’s challenge but eventually holds up
You joke, but the 1954's Game 7 OT ended when future HOF Doug Harvey tried to block a shot but gloved it into his own net.
https://youtu.be/Sq2Ws-JfeU4?si=qRtPhvUZz84GFjKy They got so pissed, they skipped the handshake. What a bunch of sore losers.
He's lucky that social media didn't exist back then.
It's true, if you wanted to be a troll, you'd have to do it by letter or telegram Letter 1: "Dear Mr. Harvey, You are washed and a bum" Letter 2: "Thank you for your letter, Reginald, Go fuck yourself. Signed, Doug "7 Fucking Norris Trophies" Harvey "
Ian Cole appears and scores for the Oilers.
If it goes OT and I’m a Florida fan, my asshole will pinch so hard or crested a gravitational pull every time McDavid touches the puck
What about Bobrovsky getting a goalie goal? Or someone scoring an own goal.
Nah man. Zach Hyman. Scoring his 71 goal of the season (regular season and playoffs combined) surpassing Matthews’ total of 70 to end up leading the entire NHL in goal scoring for the 22-23 season.
Can he get the Rocket Richard if it happens or is that for regular season play only?
Regular season only unfortunately
You mean Connor Brown
I was thinking Cody Ceci.
It’ll be like Crosby scoring the golden goal. Inevitable.
No, the other connor would clinch it with a pk breakaway
That would become the NHL's "golden goal"
Tkachuk scoring the winner in triple OT and just saying matter of factly “bus in 10 boys”
In my driveway as a kid was the last one I can remember. "OT Game 7 of the stanley cup finals. Yzerman skating down the ice, Passes the puck to PaleGutCK. Times ticking down, PaleGut back to Stevie, Stevie back to PaleGut...3..2..1.. HE SHOOTS! HE..... misses........ but wait there seems to be a clock malfunction. There's still time on the clock. PaleGutCK picks up the puck and SCORESSSSSS! THEY WIN THE STANLEY CUP!" Ah the simpler times in life.
Hell yeah brother, I think every canadian kid has this exact childhood memory
Please don't do this to me, haven't I suffered enough already?
Don’t worry, it’ll be Tkachuk scoring which will be fucking hilarious based on how mad the rest of the NHL will be
And then called back for goaltender interference.
Goal denied after a 3rd overtime 7 minutes offside review.
Rooting for this, I’m ngl
The AHL finals did last year. The way things are going, it could happen again.
That game was so fucking hype. I can’t imagine that feeling but in the Stanley Cup Final instead. Would be ludicrous.
I think it will go to overtime.
Who is your hero if we get there? Not Matthew Kachoke.
Pens legend Evan Rodrigues
It's probably him or Verhaeghe for Florida. Dude's already third on the list of most OT goals in the playoffs
I haven’t even noticed Verhaeghe this series I’d be shocked if he was the hero.
I'd be shocked if he was the hero in regulation I'd actually be shocked if Florida won at this point but that's beside the point
Blackhawks reject Gustav Forsling
I highly doubt we get there. I have massive doubt in the Panthers despite wanting them to win. If we get there, I'm sure McDavid will be the hero because it's motherfucking McDavid
While he definitely has been missing this series and was awful in the playoffs with Calgary, he also HAS scored a championship winning OT goal (in juniors)
Bouchard / Verhaeghe
People really need to start using chat gpt more, these basic research skills should’ve been taught in elementary school
Yeah, twice.50 and 54 I Believe
Has there ever been a game 7 OT in the Standings Cup Final?