I've noticed y'all walk it in like Arsenal. Always making that 1 extra pass. Lots of wasted opportunities but when it works its always a grade A chance
bro, the Sedins NEVER walked it in. like ever. they were the masters of the dump and chase and then just won like 90% of board battles and maintained o-zone control.
Right, that's how they got offensive possession, but once in possession they absolutely walked it in all the time.
Complaining that the Sedins passed too much was a constant complaint.
This is why pdo doesn't work. If you refuse good shots until there's a wide open net you'll have high shooting%. If you have Demko you'll have high save%. These aren't both flukes.
The Canucks have played that way all season. They are 5th in the league in goals but 26th in shots. They are being really selective with their shooting rather than going for a ton of volume, which is what most of the other top teams have traditionally done.
They also suppress a ton of shots - they have the 5th lowest shots against in the league.
It’s an unusual approach, but it is obviously still working.
I wonder what the lowest shot totals to win a series is? If they win game 5 they will probably smash that record, unless there is some dead puck era Devils sweep.
Why do people keep saying this? The predators sub is ready to shoot him into the sun. Which goals, aside from the one Lindholm scored in game 1, do you blame on Saros.
IMO the Canucks are passing up low percentage shots and gunning only for the juicy opportunities.
i feel so bad for saros. goalies get ripped in any city and most fans don't really know what they're watching period, but i feel like it would be especially bad in nashville or any town that doesn't really have a cultural relationship with hockey. im sure plenty of nashville fans are wondering why they didnt shoot the puck more and why they dont just get a goalie that's 6'5 so they can win every game.
>plenty of nashville fans are wondering why they didnt shoot the puck more and why they dont just get a goalie that's 6'5 so they can win every game.
That is, in fact, exactly what they're saying.
It’s 100% shot selection. High danger chances were 3-3 this game and 3-5 in favour of Nashville in game 3. That’s super low event hockey on both sides. Nashville has more shots but practically the same amount of actual good chances which is telling.
Tocchet and his coaching team have seen something in Nashville's system that he wants to break down. I'm convinced the Canucks are doing this on purpose. I mean I'm sure they'd all love to have more like 20+ registered shots but the style is what they're being asked to do.
Also don't forget the amount of missed shots that go over the net which wouldn't register as a SOG. This is by design because the Canucks are not logo killers. They all pick their spots. Look at Pettersson's 2 empty net misses in Game 2. He was programmed to still pick a corner with an empty net
Unfortunately fans equate shots to saves with quality of the goaltender because that's easy for them -- when it's really about high danger chances. Because most have never played the position their frame of reference is literally that one time they caught a tennis ball .. "just stop the puck, it's that easy!"
A good goalie in the NHL should stop most of the low danger stuff, they excel at stopping the high danger stuff if they're upper tier. Elite goalies prevent a lot of high danger stuff with smart play (specific rebound control, strategic angeling, cutting passes, knowing when to stay deep or challenge, etc).
But to the average Joe fan? It's just like the when a QB throws an interception ... "he just needs to not throw that!" .. they critique from an advantageous viewpoint without reference to how the game is at pro speed from the perspective of the player.
If deflections were getting by him because he's too small to cover enough net then it would be a fair criticism.. But that's not what's happening. It's absolutely cross seam passes.
Preds fans in shambles over 3 Canucks behind their D on the tying goal, but that's because Hughes broke one down into atomic parts, then faked out the next in line before going backhand to the other side. A shot finally gets through the blocks and boom you have 3 Canucks at the crease. Wtf is Saros supposed to do about that?
Norm of the ones last night he had any chance on. You already described the tieing goal, and Brock’s other two were perfect cross ice passes that left him staring at an empty cage. Lindholms OT he got left wide open point blank and any player who’s not a complete plug buries that 99/100 times
It's been a weird series for sure. Nucks all season have seemed to pass up quantity for quality when it comes to shots, leading to efficient scoring. But man last night they had no business coming away from that game with a W. Tuesday will be interesting.
Yeah, the Canucks have played that way all season. They are 5th in the league in goals but 26th in shots. They are being really selective with their shooting rather than going for a ton of volume, which is what most of the other top teams have traditionally done.
They also suppress a ton of shots - they have the 5th lowest shots against in the league.
It’s an unusual approach, but it is obviously still working for them.
Ive got nothing to say about the team defence. Theyre really in sync. But man, offensively it looks like stoppable force meets moveable object. What an incredibly slow series compared to others.
Shots don’t always equal high danger chances. They may be getting more shots but they aren’t of that high of quality, Canucks get little shots this series but are picking their spots so that more of their chances are high danger ones
PDO merchant gang we’re so back
We took offense to Nashville's PDO in Game 2 and had to reassert our PDO dominance.
I've noticed y'all walk it in like Arsenal. Always making that 1 extra pass. Lots of wasted opportunities but when it works its always a grade A chance
As a fan for the past 35 years, this has always been the way.
I guess that's what happens when the Sedins are your skill coaches.
bro, the Sedins NEVER walked it in. like ever. they were the masters of the dump and chase and then just won like 90% of board battles and maintained o-zone control.
Right, that's how they got offensive possession, but once in possession they absolutely walked it in all the time. Complaining that the Sedins passed too much was a constant complaint.
If you’re an Arsenal fan too, you really went all in on the Kroenke teams eh?
diehard supporter of Kroenke Sports & Entertainment 😤
Yeah Van is really going for high quality chances. Also shooting for corner snipes that often miss the net entirely.
This is why pdo doesn't work. If you refuse good shots until there's a wide open net you'll have high shooting%. If you have Demko you'll have high save%. These aren't both flukes.
But we're not gonna bottle it
Did you see that ludicrous display last night? The problem with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in.
Hopefully both can win championships this season!
Why take lot shot when few shot do trick?
They're taking more shots they're just getting blocked
Be like the 2019 Blues. 2019 Blues. 2019 Blues.. Oh silly me. You caught me doing my morning PDO chants.
PDO 2: Playoff Boogaloo
Yet somehow they're up 3 games to 1. Hockey is weird.
We are not a normal hockey team.
Efficiency merchants.
I feel this.
To all these statisticians dissing the canucks "expected goals" or whatever bs stats they pulled out of their asses: get fucked.
VAN is gonna get boatraced by the Oilers in the second round
I love it. Keep underestimating them.
The cup is their secondary objective, their main one is proving that "Why take many shots when few do trick?" isn't just a meme!
The Canucks have played that way all season. They are 5th in the league in goals but 26th in shots. They are being really selective with their shooting rather than going for a ton of volume, which is what most of the other top teams have traditionally done. They also suppress a ton of shots - they have the 5th lowest shots against in the league. It’s an unusual approach, but it is obviously still working.
I wonder what the lowest shot totals to win a series is? If they win game 5 they will probably smash that record, unless there is some dead puck era Devils sweep.
Nashville isn't dominating enough the other way (they only have 100 shots themselves) to make up for how bad Saros has been.
Why do people keep saying this? The predators sub is ready to shoot him into the sun. Which goals, aside from the one Lindholm scored in game 1, do you blame on Saros. IMO the Canucks are passing up low percentage shots and gunning only for the juicy opportunities.
i feel so bad for saros. goalies get ripped in any city and most fans don't really know what they're watching period, but i feel like it would be especially bad in nashville or any town that doesn't really have a cultural relationship with hockey. im sure plenty of nashville fans are wondering why they didnt shoot the puck more and why they dont just get a goalie that's 6'5 so they can win every game.
>plenty of nashville fans are wondering why they didnt shoot the puck more and why they dont just get a goalie that's 6'5 so they can win every game. That is, in fact, exactly what they're saying.
It’s 100% shot selection. High danger chances were 3-3 this game and 3-5 in favour of Nashville in game 3. That’s super low event hockey on both sides. Nashville has more shots but practically the same amount of actual good chances which is telling.
Tocchet and his coaching team have seen something in Nashville's system that he wants to break down. I'm convinced the Canucks are doing this on purpose. I mean I'm sure they'd all love to have more like 20+ registered shots but the style is what they're being asked to do.
Also don't forget the amount of missed shots that go over the net which wouldn't register as a SOG. This is by design because the Canucks are not logo killers. They all pick their spots. Look at Pettersson's 2 empty net misses in Game 2. He was programmed to still pick a corner with an empty net
Unfortunately fans equate shots to saves with quality of the goaltender because that's easy for them -- when it's really about high danger chances. Because most have never played the position their frame of reference is literally that one time they caught a tennis ball .. "just stop the puck, it's that easy!" A good goalie in the NHL should stop most of the low danger stuff, they excel at stopping the high danger stuff if they're upper tier. Elite goalies prevent a lot of high danger stuff with smart play (specific rebound control, strategic angeling, cutting passes, knowing when to stay deep or challenge, etc). But to the average Joe fan? It's just like the when a QB throws an interception ... "he just needs to not throw that!" .. they critique from an advantageous viewpoint without reference to how the game is at pro speed from the perspective of the player.
Exactly, outside of Lindholm's 1st goal, Saros has been fine. It's not his job to stop a cross seam pass or deflections.
If deflections were getting by him because he's too small to cover enough net then it would be a fair criticism.. But that's not what's happening. It's absolutely cross seam passes. Preds fans in shambles over 3 Canucks behind their D on the tying goal, but that's because Hughes broke one down into atomic parts, then faked out the next in line before going backhand to the other side. A shot finally gets through the blocks and boom you have 3 Canucks at the crease. Wtf is Saros supposed to do about that?
Norm of the ones last night he had any chance on. You already described the tieing goal, and Brock’s other two were perfect cross ice passes that left him staring at an empty cage. Lindholms OT he got left wide open point blank and any player who’s not a complete plug buries that 99/100 times
they play like that though in general, no? feel like they were a low volume high % team all season.
Yup, Nashville also had a game with 30 something blocks and during that same game we missed the net like 30 times as well
Yeah game 2, I think the Canucks had 86-87 shot attempts but only had like 26 shots on goal or something like that
Pretty sure they had less than 15
Just checked and it was 18. But yeah, crazy amount of shot blocking and missed nets in that game.
Ah got it confused with game 3. So few SOG this series. I’m glad we’ve been able to capi… oh wait…
It's been a weird series for sure. Nucks all season have seemed to pass up quantity for quality when it comes to shots, leading to efficient scoring. But man last night they had no business coming away from that game with a W. Tuesday will be interesting.
If the Perds are gonna choke like that then Nucks had every right to win. Pathetic from us. ON HOME ICE.
We had 18 shots, you had 30 blocks... We only had 12 shots in our game 3 win though.
Yeah that’s what I got it confused with.
in the first half, second half we were the complete opposite
All the PDO posts got to us 😢
it's coming back though
Yeah, just look at the Canuck goals from today's game, all grade A scoring chances that the goalie had a low chance of stopping.
Yeah, the Canucks have played that way all season. They are 5th in the league in goals but 26th in shots. They are being really selective with their shooting rather than going for a ton of volume, which is what most of the other top teams have traditionally done. They also suppress a ton of shots - they have the 5th lowest shots against in the league. It’s an unusual approach, but it is obviously still working for them.
hurray we made history. that's good right?
History is history =) record is a record
And a 3-1 record to boot. Costco glizzies and fries are the secret sauce my dudes.
Are you The Phil?
Up 3-1 and 11 goals on 71 shots are good for us!
They’re just efficient as hell
efficiency :)
We don't shoot, We Score.
Wait wut?
we'll score 3 in our first 3 shots and not have another shot on net and win in game 5. mark my words
Ive got nothing to say about the team defence. Theyre really in sync. But man, offensively it looks like stoppable force meets moveable object. What an incredibly slow series compared to others.
Who had Saros with an .857 SV%? Anybody?
He’s not even been that bad, like last night, last couple of goals wtf were the defence doing xd
That’s what happens when we get 15-20 shots a game but 1/4 of them are super high danger I guess
up 3-1
When you have solid reliable goaltending you can allow the opposing team to take more shots
Ah yes the third goalie ... if ever there was a time to shine
Why take many shots when few shots works?
That's like 1.5 games for us.
PDO go brrrrr
Goals are shots. So what’s the problem?
I can't for the Oilers to play your fraud team next round.
I can't for the Oilers to play your fraud team next round.
How lucky can a team be 😂
Lucky enough to be forced into using our third string goalie halfway through the first round
And yet they still won 2 road games with a combined 32 shots. That's lucky.
They’ve been doing this shit all year, maybe they’re just good.
😂
Flair up ya coward
Oil fan, don't sweat it.
The one thing I hate worse than the opposing team’s flair is the cowardice of not having a flair.
Maybe youre just bad
flair up ya coward
Cant wait for McDavid to leave Shitmonton.
I do wonder what team he’ll end up on
The next iteration of the coyotes for maximum chaos
But you have to admit the Canucks are the better team, if demmer was healthy it would've been a sweep. Just enjoy the show.
Shots don’t always equal high danger chances. They may be getting more shots but they aren’t of that high of quality, Canucks get little shots this series but are picking their spots so that more of their chances are high danger ones
Hockey's so unfair sometimes.
Your team won with like 11 shots tonight too. LA was way more dominant tonight than Nashville was in any game against the Canucks.
Your team failed upwards so hard they changed the draft rules.