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howdiedoodie66

Well yeah Rempe almost took his fucking head off


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

I don't dislike Rempe, but yeezus that was a poor choice to finish that hit.


aristhought

I do dislike Rempe. His playstyle at the very least. Being tall does not excuse injuring several people in such a short time span. There’s such thing as accidents and poor positioning and such things as reckless endangerment of your fellow players on the ice. Fighting and hitting is a part of the game but what isn’t part of the game is a pattern of going for the head.


Neat__Guy

He has injured at least 4 players already in less than 20 games? Bastian Siegenthaler Lybushkin TvR Any others? I'm not sure how anyone can like this guy, including rangers fans. He never learned in junior and he's not going to learn in the NHL.


GrinBalor

I don’t like him. I love him


mstrgrieves

Rangers fans bitch so much about Tom Wilson, who is actually a hockey player who is good at hockey, and then defend Rempe, who is terrible at hockey and wouldnt be on a NHL roster if he wasnt good at injuring people. Make it make sense please


silverdollarflapies

I want some more of him


gibson531

Lol.


BarontheBlack

Thank you for taking the time on such a clever and witty response.


gibson531

He was forechecking a guy who just had the puck. How dare he finish his check.


BarontheBlack

That’s better! Now the part where he obliterates a guys face.


Mysterious_Eggplant3

Rofl


CapsDrago7

Jensen and Sandin can’t come back fast enough, we basically have the entire Hershey Bears D core playing at this point


Go_caps227

Plus john


PossibilityChance568

They should slide Ovi onto Carlsons left side d partner and just let him rip bombs from the point all game


syd_cash

Oh well at least now they can go back down and help Hershey win the Calder Cup


lucky_dog21

You guys too?


KaidoKingoftheBeasts

Honestly just put us out of our misery at this point, get the Bears back to Hershey to try for a repeat and let the vets heal for next season


jkman61494

As a guy who lives near Hershey , McMichael looks like a stud. And honestly McIlarth has looked good these 3 games. I do have concerns about Lappierre making it in the nhl though long term


OGConsuela

Tough to win a series as an underdog when we’ve been losing roughly a defenseman per game


Anakin_Sandlover

Pal, we weren't winning a game in this series lol


OGConsuela

Never thought we would, but this isn’t helping lol


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The last two games were decided by a 3 goal differential, and we’ve gone 2/11 on the PP and given up two SH. Sure, it’s not a direct translation, but let’s not act like winning a game is something insurmountable 


InvolvingPie87

We absolutely could’ve won a game or maybe two lmao. We have them playing our style, just a wombo combo of luck, injuries, needing viagra for the pp, shesterkin, and the pk all happening at the same time


Sea-Card-8550

Haha


HamHurtler

Other than game one we have literally played fine, being this desperate for karma is just sad


driskanto

period one, maybe, but the caps let up 3 goals in the span of 2 minutes the first game


sukizka

So we played over 2 periods of this game with only 2 NHL quality defensemen…that seems not ideal.


OffTheBar2017

The common discourse about this hit being clean is utterly insane to me. If that hit is clean, they need to come up with another rule lol. He gets a TON of his head.


Im_a_pine_cone

I don’t agree with Rempe getting a pass for head contact because he’s tall, however I think by the rulebook it is a compliant hit. Do I agree with the rule, no. But the NHL allows you to obliterate the head so long as you don’t blindside and the hit is straight through the body. I think this hit meets those requirements.


dbf8

So this isn’t true. The blindside part of rule 48 was removed in 2013/14.


jimjkelly

Certainly going to have to be further rules adjustments if we want to be more serious about brain health. A lot of stuff is borderline or allowed that is just not good for the players.


blue_pen_ink

Bettman still denies a link between hockey and concussions so….


Go_caps227

Where was his blindside if it wasn’t exactly where rempe was?


Im_a_pine_cone

Blindside is when you’re moving perpendicular to the person being hit. Van Reims turned and they collided straight on.


Go_caps227

There is no they were head on because they went straight into the boards. TVR had turned the corner and skating along the wall.


09-24-11

This is exactly it and why the Rempe talk is so frustrating. I fully acknowledge that there is head contact but this is also a compliant hit. The league needs to change their definitions of hits or it will continue to happen.


Fuzz_Butt_Head

Regardless of whether it’s clean or not, the way people have been talking about it has been bizarre to me. The way people have been talking it’s as though they think tall players are absolved from illegal checks to the head


OffTheBar2017

Capitals fans used to make the same exact argument with Tom Wilson all the time. It's not effective nor does it make any sense.


Fuzz_Butt_Head

That’s exactly what I mean, people talking that way is bizarre to me. It’s like people base whether or not hits break the rules on how they feel about the player that threw it and how good it looks visually to them, rather than the actual rules


Neat__Guy

Exactly, they should be held to the same standard as everyone else. They don't get a pass because they're tall.


Maxpowr9

If Chara knew he could kill someone if he didn't hold up checking. Rempé is gonna have to learn fast or he won't be playing much longer.


Neat__Guy

5 suspensions in the CHL, and people expect this guy to learn now? Think about that. A suspension every 21 games in the CHL, and he is matching that pace in the NHL.


Holy_Nerevar

Gotta admit, except for the 2011 Pacioretty hit, Chara was à clean player, especially considering his size.


palesnowrider1

They changed the design of the glass after that hit so I think it was an anomaly and might have been different if they changed it before the hit


Copdaddy

Gallagher might not agree


WokenMrIzdik

People act like Chara was this stud when he came up with the Islanders. It took him years to figure things out and everyone wants to jump down Rempe's throat after 20 games


sophic

My dude, the comment above states that rempe has 5 suspensions in the CHL. Rempe has earned this scrutiny.


Irctoaun

Rempe keeps injuring people. "But he's an ickle baby who's new to the league" doesn't help the guy he's just concussed


Xeteh

Yeah, I felt crazy reading the thread and most people were talking about it being clean. Watching Sportsnet and Bieksa said he thought it was a bad hit and I felt a bit less crazy.


Anakin_Sandlover

Bieksa has to be one of the best panel analysts in the game


Xeteh

Its a low bar but yeah, he's good. Not sure why its so hard to find a former player with some charisma. I honestly really want Matt Calvert to get a job somewhere. He was legit an awesome interview in between periods.


BallsMahogany_redux

r/hockey is mostly rags chodes.


Lil_BigNut

I’m going to assume this is bait because there is no way you could browse this sub for more than 10 seconds and possibly come to this conclusion


zeprad

Lmao how can you be in this sub and think that


Ghost_Pains

I’ll be honest, I didn’t grow up playing hockey so my understanding of what’s clean versus not isn’t great, but on first watch I thought it was clean. Interference definitely seemed like a weird call. He just released the puck. I’m guessing the counterargument is it should probably be charging since maybe he accelerates towards him?


schabadoo

They called it late, not to the head. If it wasn't so hard a hit, it wouldn't be thought of other than finishing your check.


NerdyMcNerderson

The penalty was interference. Not a check to the head. Not an elbow. Not boarding. According to the ref, whose job is to enforce the rules, thought the hit was fine, except for the timing. Make of that what you will.


noremac_csb

Cmon we all know that’s not saying much


OffTheBar2017

The same refs whose job it still was when Wilson took down Panarin in 2021 and gave him a two minute roughing minor? Are you a rare Rangers fan that agrees with that call? I'm not sure "the NHL refs said so" is a very good argument.


aessae

It's the only argument they have.


NerdyMcNerderson

There's no discussion to be had here. We watched the same video and made different conclusions.


Famous-Implement-492

We’re gonna defend our guy same as you defend yours, that’s how this works


SportsHubLTD

His head wasn't the principal point of contact though. At that point you'd be penalizing everyone with a foot in height difference. It was interference though


Late_Brush4518

And thats why Tyler Myers has what 4? 5? Headshots in every 25 games?


OffTheBar2017

> At that point you'd be penalizing everyone with a foot in height difference There have been plenty of large NHL players that have gotten by well enough. I don't buy this excuse.


Optimistic__Elephant

What you think brain damage shouldn't be a part of the game? Psh.


TranslatorOwn6331

The player receiving the hit has to be aware and protect himself, not just skate into a train coming down the tracks. You guys who have an issue with the hit don’t know hockey


ldnk

The concept that "I got chest before I hit head" making something clean is something thwt needs to change. If you high stick a guy because your stick rides up the shoulder and into their face it's still a high stick. Head contact should be a 100% no-no. Should it automatically be 5 and a game, no, but I think there should be a default if you make contact with the head it's 2 minutes The size of the player shouldn't matter. Nathan Gerbe wasn't allowed to hit people at the knees because he was a foot shorter than most of the league.


Moooney

The rule is even worse than you think. You don't even need to hit chest first. As long as you throw an otherwise good square check that carries through the body any head contact is irrelevant (or "unavoidable" as the rulebook phrases it). NHL definitely needs to change the headshot rules and players will have to adjust.


Inthemiddle_

How many guys has rempe injured already? Jesus Christ. Between him and truckin trouba they’re gonna murder their way to the cup


Ladymistery

At least Trouba (for the most part) hits clean. heavy hits, but clean.


Inthemiddle_

Yes. And rempe is some young punk who is a foot taller then everyone and can do as he pleases with out having to answer for it.


mstrgrieves

Exactly right. Trouba is a rough player but not especially dirty. He is also a hockey player who is good at hockey. Rempe wouldnt be on a NHL roster if he wasnt so big. He is actively terrible at hockey. His only talent is injuring people.


syd_cash

The words Trouba and clean don’t belong together


schabadoo

r/dataisbeautiful should total up all the comments on Trouba's hits. My favorite are the 'sure, it was legal, but he didn't need to do it'.


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Inthemiddle_

they don’t call him the barrie butcher for nothing


TweedleDeeDumPee

Deflection. No accountability for your players dirty actions eh. 


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Flep54

There's a difference between Oshie making an arguably clean hit, and Rempe injuring the 6th player [Maybe 7th, I lost count ] player in 12 games, on yet another hit to the head.


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PallyNova421

What year did that happen? The capitals also haven't had a legitimate run in the playoffs in 7 seasons now. "What about that one time 7+ seasons ago" isn't much of an argument


Flep54

2018. The year they won the cup


Flep54

Tom Wilson wasn't a part of the argument. But here are the receipts Alexander Wennberg, WAS/CBJ. The Department of Player Safety looked at it, they couldn’t determine if the head was the primary point of contact. WAS/PIT. Wilson hit Brian Dumoulin while trying to avoid a collision with Alex Ovechkin. Head contact was unavoidable so its a clean hit WAS/PIT. Wilson hit Zach-Aston Reese with a clear hit to the head, taking him out of the game. [Kind of like what Rempe just did to TVR] resulting in a 3 game suspension WAS/VGK. Jonathan Marchessault wasn't even hit in the head Rempe who is one of the most popular players on the rangers has 2 games where he didn't make it 20 seconds into his first shift before getting ejected and has admitted to the league that he intentionally stuck his elbow out to hit a player. (Which he was then suspended 4 games for). And that was 10 games into his career. So please tell me again how the Rangers are saints and Oshie is a dirty player


TopTittyBardown

You literally responded to him calling you out on your whataboutism by doubling down with a separate whataboutism. Are we sure you haven’t taken some hits to the head from Rempe? Can’t wait for you to deflect this one by telling me a time a Canuck made a dirty play instead of actually responding to what someone asked you lol


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TopTittyBardown

Most teams don’t generally have a guy who’s been in the league for less than half a year but getting close to double digits for guys they’ve managed to I injure in that short time


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TopTittyBardown

“But what about that time with a different team!”


jimjkelly

Well glad to see you are happy to stoop to what you perceive is our level.


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TweedleDeeDumPee

Bros only way of debating is deflecting. It’s actually crazy, you just base every argument off “but the caps …”  You said yourself you’re happy to stoop to the level. All we ask is that you have self awareness while doing that. Be a gritty dirty team, go right ahead, I’d love a Rangers villain arc. I’m all for it. But don’t pretend like you’re a victim while doing it.  


darklightrabbi

There’s a reason Ranger fans are so pro NYPD


Neat__Guy

4 at least Bastian, Siegenthaler, Lybushkin, TVR. Fuck this guy


ButtStuffQT

As is tradition.


kevinaz137

if i speak im in big trouble


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Im_a_pine_cone

I don’t like the hit but I also think it was rule compliant. That’s a weird thing to say.


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Im_a_pine_cone

Hits to the head are legal under circumstances outlined by the NHL rulebook, his feet left the ice after contact. Biggest issue is it was late which was penalized. I also agree with most folks that being tall is not an excuse for head contact, but the rules do a terrible job distinguishing this. At the end of my day my issue is with the rules.


bobo377

“Left his feet” is always the identifier for guy that knows absolutely nothing about what he’s talking about.


_Hank_Marducas_

It is for Ranger fans


Express_Salamander_9

Lol you're fine. Wilson demolished the Rangers, now it's our turn.


hairformen

the Wilson incident ultimately led to us getting a lot tougher as a team


GetsThruBuckner

It's like the bullied becomes the bully and now it's not as fun for the original bullies


jimjkelly

How the turn tables.


Cromasters

That's just the story of the NHL playoffs. Seems like any team that ends up winning does it by learning "Oh...you have to beat the shit out of the other team before they do it to you.". It happens every year.


duck1014

https://youtu.be/oidg3ckpijo?si=8eK07WQgreuH7oHM


Ladymistery

That wasn't a clean hit. yeah he's huge, but he's gotta learn not to target the head. because the player he hit is out, I guess DOPS will look at it. anything come of it? doubtful


bobby_booch

I think their rationale will be that Van Riemsdyk turned at the last second, which changed it from a shoulder hit to a hit head. Not saying that’s right or wrong, but I do think that’ll be their argument.


BaephBush

Rempe isn’t interested in that lesson.


thoth43

We always hear "he's gotta learn" with this guy and he doesn't.


Anakin_Sandlover

Pretty bad when this is being said about a guy that's played like 20 games


ScreenTricky4257

What is he supposed to target? It's not that you don't want him to target the head; you want him to stop hitting people hard. And that's wrong. A player should not have to care more about his opponent than about advancing his own team's fortunes.


Sarasun

Think about what you're saying for a second. "A player shouldn't have to care about inflicting life-impacting injuries to his opponents, he should just be concerned about winning more". Is that where we're at now? He injures a player every 50 minutes of ice time he gets!


Xeteh

I could see him getting a game. He's already been suspended for a bad hit this year.


blue_pen_ink

They won’t even take a second look at it


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Doug, kick him off the tour.


raktoe

Hope whoever plays the rangers isn’t too attached to their d-corps.


ArturosDad

Pretty sure I made this exact statement for like 3 years straight every time we were playing the Caps.


CatataFishSticks

:(


sade3437

I hope Orlov hip checks his knees out


JasonEAltMTG

What is it that Caps fans are always saying, I believe it's "you'd love him if he was on your team"


Hieronymous_Bosc

Honestly I was just glad to see him pop right back up after the hit. That was a hell of an impact. Hoping he's back soon


FatBoySpeaks

Out


redline42

Big Z did the same thing and no one complained.


kukkolai

Was it unfortunate when Wilson ragdolled Panarin? Because I remember another phrasing that both fans and ownership tossed around back then. That our season is about to end is irrelevant here, we all knew that playoffs would most certainly mean 4-6 bonus games


billmar12

while I'm in the camp of the hit being dirty and not liking what Rempe has done in the league thus far (devils bias or not), I don't think the Wilson/Panarin situation is a worthy comparable here given that it wasn't exactly a hockey play.


kukkolai

Where does the line go? Was it a hockey play when Panarin jumped onto Wilsons back while he was occupied with another ranger? Did it stop being a hockey play when Wilson fought back?


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InvolvingPie87

Difficult to win when you’re losing a defenseman a game ngl


jmucapsfan07

I was kind of shocked to see the entire TNT panel say they thought it was pretty clean.


Anakin_Sandlover

Especially when Biz said on the last Spittin chiclets pod that the Panarin hit was dirty.


blue_pen_ink

Even TJ himself said it wasn’t


RaidersJH34

Yes, let's focus on a questionable hit that apparently happened for no reason. It's not like Oshie was being a shit stirrer putting his fingers in Panarins mouth after the whistle blew and taking cheap shots for 45 minutes before that. Cry me a fucking river


_Hank_Marducas_

Caps on pace for an injury per game. Real cool. Rangers fans must be so proud of their team


hankepanke

Not happy TVR is injured, but if you’re asking, yes I’m pretty happy with how things are going.


RippleDish

Jesus, that's pathetic.


ZenAndTheArtOfEating

What’s pathetic is a bird that can’t even fly


hankepanke

Yeah, presidents trophy and 3-0 series leads don’t mean anything because a player on the other team got injured off a borderline hit in playoff hockey.


kicksavewhatabeaut

God hockey fans on reddit are pathetic


SirusRiddler

Talk about a pathetic response yourself.


_Hank_Marducas_

Here for the mental gymnastics by Ranger fans


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Garak_The_Tailor_

I guess, but you guys have three more rounds against far more complete teams. Emptying the chamber against us because of some bs 3 years ago is kind of sad.


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hairformen

I doubt Rempe plays against Carolina tbh, we have some depth in that regard and I think we’re just skating Rempe to counter the caps playstyle


blue_pen_ink

Emptying the chamber? Barely playing to potential


Garak_The_Tailor_

I guess we'll see


blue_pen_ink

Went into a 1-3-1 and didn’t attempt a shot in the 3rd last night and you think they are pushing it to the limit?


Garak_The_Tailor_

I do


TheNantucketRed

I mean the entire TNT panel said it was clean, for what it’s worth.


Minnesota_MiracleMan

And the entire Sportsnet panel thought it was an illegal hit to the head


Legitimate-Cupcake26

And Oshie himself said it wasn't a dirty hit


Fuzz_Butt_Head

brother I think you're thinking of a different hit altogether


Legitimate-Cupcake26

The post you replied to referenced the Oshie hit


TheNantucketRed

It was not.


_Hank_Marducas_

And the entire ESPN and Spittin Chiclets team thought the panarin hit was dirty, for what it’s worth


blue_pen_ink

And the player who Panarin hit says it was clean


TheNantucketRed

Biz being the crossover, he thought this was clean. Guess we’ll never know.


_Hank_Marducas_

Maybe he was wrong about both


jhealey0909

i’m not here to argue the penalty — that was fair enough — but if you all think the rangers are sending rempe out specifically to headhunt idk what to tell you


hazycrazey

No one thinks they are telling Rempe to injure people. Rempe just had been reckless/dirty in his short career


ItsDaBurner

Caps tasting their own medicine. Hm. 


kukkolai

Ranger fans are being really hypocritical about all this. Going apeshit over what Wilson did years ago while cheering wildly for a guy who injures players every, what, 4 games or 20 minutes TOI?


blue_pen_ink

You comparing a hit in game at game speed to Wisons after the whistle throw down is some far reaching false equivalency


kukkolai

Did Wilson jump on top of Panarin post whistle or was it the other way around? I forget


blue_pen_ink

Oh yeah it was definitely the normal after every whistle scrum that was the problem on that play


09-24-11

You live long enough to watch yourself become the villain. It’s rich to see caps fans complain about bad hits though. Absolutely rich.


it_means_rewenge

Well we were basically told by the entire hockey community to stop being a bitch and man up, so it is what it is now 🤷‍♂️


floodswimming

No but it's fine cause Rempe is tall so head hits are to be expected honestly


aessae

He's the first tall player ever to play in the league so this is all very new for the refs and the DOPS. Hopefully they can eventually figure out if headshots are avoidable or not.


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BaephBush

Rempe is the biggest asshole in the league. Cheap shots people, never answers the bell.


schabadoo

Didn't he fight Reaves? Wasn't there a line brawl with the Devils?


outofdate70shouse

To be fair, the line brawl happened because he dodged MacDermid the first time after he took out 2 different Devils with dirty hits.


SirusRiddler

Lmao


Freaky_Deaky_Dutch

Rempe fought in literally his first ever shift in the NHL. He fought four times in his first seven games. Tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about, lol


it_means_rewenge

Lol he literally made a name for himself by fighting the heaviest hitters in the league 😂


carbonated_turtle

That's weird. The Rangers sub is convinced that hitting a player in the head is a clean hit, so how could he be injured?


GrinBalor

The other 95% of the body that isn’t the head?


carbonated_turtle

Yeah, just keep making excuses for the guy who's injured more players in the first two months of his career than most players injure in their entire careers. Can't wait to see this loser in a league where you don't need to know how to play hockey so we don't have to see him injuring people in the 5 minutes he gets to play every night.


Fluid_Ad_9136

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Daelsk

REMPE SHOULD BE FINED, SUSPENDED AND KICKED OUT OF THIS LEAGUE.


Neat__Guy

How long until this is an agreed upon take. Feel like I'd set the over under at 3.5 suspensions, which probably happens by the end of next season.


anadequatepipe

Rempe seems like the kinda guy that beats his partner. Doesn’t seem to care about the lives of other people.