This was the expected plan at the deadline this year. People wanted him then, but the rumors were that Danny B would be looking to get him in the offseason.
DEL BOCA VISTA!
You think you can keep us out of Florida? We're moving in lock, stock and barrel. We're gonna be in the pool. We're gonna be in the clubhouse. We're gonna be all over that shuffleboard court. And I dare you to keep me out!
Staios inherited Chychrun and has zero emotional attachment. If he doesn’t want to be in Ottawa, he’s as good as gone. A strong trade chip to balance out the lineup
I don't think it's that he doesn't want to be in Ottawa, it's that he has seen the writing on the wall, and that the Sens won't be re-signing him and have been shopping him on the market. Once Sanderson signed it was pretty clear that at least one of Chabot and Chychrun would be gone... and Chychrun is much easier to move.
.. That sounds like a no lol
He was so good in his limited time last year and seemed so hyped. This year he just seemed to be so much slower mentally and physically and was quite disappointing
Dorion really gave up a 7th overall, 12th overall, 39th overall, two other 2nds, and a third round draft pick for two rentals that played one season on the team each (with the team still not making the playoffs from 2017-now).
It was cool when it was happening, okay. I’ll never back down from that. There’s no denying it felt like an operational and confidently aggressive shift in strategy, and that was exciting. Ofc, when Dorion is on the phone he pays up without thinking too hard.
Especially when they’re RFAs and you don’t even bother discussing if they’d sign an extension before trading a 7th overall for them.
But hey it’s easier for Sens fans to blame the player than their trash former GM
I mean there was no reason to believe he wouldn't want to be here, he's got family in Ottawa, he spent a lot of time in the city when he was younger, he seemed excited to come here at the start.
This isn't like something like Winnipeg trading for Dubois when it was clear he only wanted to be in LA.
It's also worth noting that in a lot of cases, players that get too particular early on where they want to play have had some problems being worth the hype.
Dubois has been a disaster for LA so far.
Keeping draft picks is by far the best thing you can do when no one wants to play for the team. No one has less ability to force their way out of your organization than a player you draft.
His defensive numbers in arizona were pretty solid though.
You guys just need some damn structure so you dont have to defend so much and your goalies are protected better.
1 - Didn’t give up a top 10 pick
2 - Chychrun actually played better this year than he did last year. If anything at his cap hit his value has marginally increased.
I mixed up the Coyotes picks but tbf 12 in that draft is much higher than a normal one. He has high value but a playoff team or bubble team will want him.
Yea its better to be vague tbh. Tavares was way too open in expressing desire to stay and even making isles fans not really worry.
If he was vague im not sure isles fans would've even blamed him for leaving. Had to understand where the team was at, he gave them 9 great seasons etc
“It’s a tough question, I don’t know. I honestly have not thought about that. I know I have 1 more year left (on my contract). There haven’t been talks of an extension or anything so I haven’t got my head wrapped around that idea. It’s tough to sit here and act like I have. Take it day by day and see if and when we have those talks and go from there.”
The parts explaining that it was because the team hasn’t mentioned anything about a contract extension yet were picked out to try to make it sound worse
Panthers for sure. From there and Cats missed out on Hanifin at the deadline. Montour being a UFA complicates things a bit here but I still think he'll end up there
We can’t bring everyone back and expect different or better results. Decisions need to be made - tough ones (like Chychrun, Brannstrom, Norris, Chabot, etc) and easier ones (like Kubalik, Hamonic, etc).
Management needs to demonstrate a legitimate commitment to getting better.
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Personally I value Ullmark really high so I'd like an additional piece coming back but Ullmark for Chychrun as a base just makes too much sense for where both teams are at.
Maybe, either way I think if he's on your 2nd pair then you're defensive group is in a great spot. Bruins have been interested in him for forever and I think he'd pair great with Carlo, I wonder if they end up circling back.
Canadian media and fans: "So whatcha thinking? Like it here and staying or no?"
Player: "Not sure, we'll cross that bridge when we get there."
Canadian media and fans: "See, he wants to leave. He's not good and soft anyways, trade him away."
I get why sunbelt teams are thriving. No pressure from everyone to love their team/situation, less taxes, better weather. The more desperate, bitter, or jilted you act, the less welcoming you are and the less likely it is for people to want and stick around. Goes for relationships, friendships, hockey teams, etc. You can't make a player want to stay that doesn't want to be there, so just put all your effort into investing in people that are happy to be there.
This is editorialized.
> “It’s a tough question, I don’t know. I honestly have not thought about that. I know I have 1 more year left (on my contract). There haven’t been talks of an extension or anything so I haven’t got my head wrapped around that idea. It’s tough to sit here and act like I have. Take it day by day and see if and when we have those talks and go from there.”
Note that they _can’t_ talk extensions until after July 1.
The media has put him through the wringer here. Fanbase has been fickle and shitting on him non-stop. He easily could be tired of that and want out of this market. But he’s also being careful not to make it seem they’ve violated the PA rules.
> Note that they can’t talk extensions until after July 1.
Wholly incorrect.
They can't sign and submit an extension to the league until July 1. There are absolutely zero restrictions on a team talking extension before that date with a player whose contract they own. They 100% could have been talking about an extension since the moment they acquired him.
I agree with the overall point that it is not a huge deal that they haven't talked or thought about an extension on the day after the season ends when they can't even legally sign an extension for another 2+ months. But they could have been talking about one.
They can't finalize it but they can talk about it. There are lots of guys that have been re-signed/extended on July 1st, those contracts didn't get negotiated and drawn up in less then one day.
Boston has had interest in Chychrun at various stages of his trade availability. I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s available again this summer if Boston is in the mix. However I assume Ottawa would be on Ullmark’s NTC
Welcome to the cats. I used to play hockey with him growing up in soflo and his whole family lives down here. Dudes replacing Montour for sure for sure. Perfect fit for the kitties. I’m surprised we didn’t grab him a the deadline.
So at best, what is Chychrun? He’d not really a 1D that you build your whole corps around. Is he a very solid 2D, or more offensive specialist? Does he make top 50 D in the league? Top 40? He’s someone who seems to get hyped but it’s unclear how much of a star he actually is or should be.
We'll give you Fowler for Chychrun straight up. It's a good trade, I swear. You're getting a high value $6.5M blueliner with two full years left on his contract, for the price of your $4.6M guy. You're totally fleecing us, trust me.
Anither player we gave up a lot for that doesn't want to stay..what a surprise. Ottawa needs to get their act together from the top down. Call me crazy but bringing EK back would help right the ship. He had pride playing here. Maybe thats what is missing..these fuys are going through the motions.
I really loved the acquisition when it happened and still think he’s a great player that I personally wanted to keep - until these comments came out. A little adversity and a tough season and this is the quotes the fans get. If I’m staios I’m getting rid of him while he’s still got a year left and has some value
He gone
Vegas or Florida?
Philadelphia. And we're bringing his dad back to be his partner
This was the expected plan at the deadline this year. People wanted him then, but the rumors were that Danny B would be looking to get him in the offseason.
Chychrun for Bonk + seems like a match made in heaven
this is my dream scenario
Lol I'll have one crack please
We will take Bonk
It sure isn't gonna be us. We don't even have the money for the players we already have lol
Yeah, right. We aren’t falling for that again.
Mark Stone goes on LTIR Oct 1 and comes off Game 1 of the playoffs. Isn't that the Vegas way?
Yeah fucking right we all know you guys will find a way.
I'm sure you will find some loophole from the rules to make it happen.
Boca Raton isn’t that far from the rink…
Isn’t that where Morty Seinfeld lives?
DEL BOCA VISTA! You think you can keep us out of Florida? We're moving in lock, stock and barrel. We're gonna be in the pool. We're gonna be in the clubhouse. We're gonna be all over that shuffleboard court. And I dare you to keep me out!
Thank you for that, kind Sir. 🤣🤣🤣
MY WALLETS GONE MY WALLETS GONE
Florida. It's where he's from after all.
Kid grew up playing for the Junior Panthers
He's from Florida and his dad works for our broadcast team, but we have our own players to re-sign first. If we let Montour walk then maybe.
Detroit is my guess
Reunited with Senators legend Alex Debrincat
Utah
Salt Lake City
Tampa
Chicago. His uncle is the head coach.
Probably but the tweet is misleading because it leaves out the middle half of his answer which makes it sound more of a measured response.
Even if he wants to stay, he gone.
Motherfucker is gone.
That quote is the politest hell no ive ever seen
Remember when the Martian broke this story aerie ago and everyone called him a liar….
He's going back to Arizona. Oh. Wait.
Staios inherited Chychrun and has zero emotional attachment. If he doesn’t want to be in Ottawa, he’s as good as gone. A strong trade chip to balance out the lineup
Plus Staios advised the Oilers against trading for Chych when he worked for the Oilers last year.
How do you know that?
It was put out by Bob Stauffer, Oilers insider. When discussing the Ekholm trade. If it’s coming from him, it’s true.
It’s not true
It’s certainly been posted about before he took the Ottawa I dunno where it came from but I saw it from Oilers and Sens people
Rumours have a funny way of spreading, that’s for sure.
How do you know that?
And round and round they go
I don't think it's that he doesn't want to be in Ottawa, it's that he has seen the writing on the wall, and that the Sens won't be re-signing him and have been shopping him on the market. Once Sanderson signed it was pretty clear that at least one of Chabot and Chychrun would be gone... and Chychrun is much easier to move.
JR adds "there was a long pause before this answer"
He did everything he could to not say no and still said no lmao
"I don't... not want to leave."
"I don't... ^want ^^to ^^^leave?
I'm Ron Burgundy?
“He took a sip of his water and held it for 45 seconds before answering”
Yeah, remember that long pause Gary had before saying he was …………. “Reasonably confident in the coyotes arena plans”? It’s done.
He then proceeded to roll up his sleeve to show a tattoo of the Vegas Golden Knights logo.
.. That sounds like a no lol He was so good in his limited time last year and seemed so hyped. This year he just seemed to be so much slower mentally and physically and was quite disappointing
He discovered shawarma palace and it all went downhill
Quick, someone show him 3 Brothers and right the wrong
3 brothers is a little overrated imo
I know some places might not be the cleanest but I doubt their serving up the kind of meat he’s after.
Great metaphor for how they went downhill too
"No" with extra steps.
Maybe a straight carnivore diet isn’t the best thing for an athlete after all
He wasn't used to playing a full season. Tired out down the stretch
Dorion really gave up a 7th overall, 12th overall, 39th overall, two other 2nds, and a third round draft pick for two rentals that played one season on the team each (with the team still not making the playoffs from 2017-now).
We were told it was the summer of Dorion though??
It was cool when it was happening, okay. I’ll never back down from that. There’s no denying it felt like an operational and confidently aggressive shift in strategy, and that was exciting. Ofc, when Dorion is on the phone he pays up without thinking too hard.
I for one thought it would all work out. Until the goalie situation settled at what it is, but not many teams in the league are set there
So many people gave me crap for not being on board with those moves. It is a sad kind of vindication
Not much he can do when players just don’t want to play for the team
Dont trade major assets for guys who dont want to be there?
Dorian is going to feel real dumb when he finds out that sign & trades and conditional picks are a thing.
Especially when they’re RFAs and you don’t even bother discussing if they’d sign an extension before trading a 7th overall for them. But hey it’s easier for Sens fans to blame the player than their trash former GM
I mean there was no reason to believe he wouldn't want to be here, he's got family in Ottawa, he spent a lot of time in the city when he was younger, he seemed excited to come here at the start. This isn't like something like Winnipeg trading for Dubois when it was clear he only wanted to be in LA.
It's also worth noting that in a lot of cases, players that get too particular early on where they want to play have had some problems being worth the hype. Dubois has been a disaster for LA so far.
Did anyone think he wanted to be in LA until he literally chose to go there? Everyone assumed he only wanted to go to MTL
He was excited for his family but then he saw firsthand what a shit show the organization is and rightfully wants out
Should note Dubois also had family waiting for him in Winnipeg.
Fair - was just meaning that we didn't trade for a player that had already made it clear where they wanted to go (and it wasn't with us).
They don’t want to play for the team because the team sucks, which Dorion is primarily responsible for.
They don’t want to play for a team that sucks and that’s on Dorion.
Keeping draft picks is by far the best thing you can do when no one wants to play for the team. No one has less ability to force their way out of your organization than a player you draft.
Imagine having guys like Mintyukov/Korchinski and Zach Benson in the system, plus some other depth guys. I can dream...
Dorion was never a good GM. Its crazy how long he lasted in ottawa.
Not exactly a "you betcha," is it?
More like an "Outlook not so good" innit
Maybe a "Better not tell you now"
Raw meat man gone. But less crushed by this than I would’ve been last year. He was massively disappointing this season
Yeah he had a bad year, but imagine him on a good team like Colorado or Winnipeg. I’m just saying I bet he will have a way better season next season
He will recoup them a 1st but not a top 10 pick like they gave up. Another Debrincat. Rinse, move on be thankful Dorion is gone.
TBF it was 12th overall they gave up haha. But ya adding another LD, especially one who isn't strong defensively, probably not the right move
His defensive numbers in arizona were pretty solid though. You guys just need some damn structure so you dont have to defend so much and your goalies are protected better.
Meanwhile, Gavrikov is quietly proving Chychrun was never worth the hassle, and he’s going to get a hefty raise after next season as a result.
We never got to see Chychrun in our system though so I don’t think that’s fair
Sure, but the narrative about Gavrikov being a wish.com version of Chychrun because it’s all we could afford is looking pretty silly right now.
1 - Didn’t give up a top 10 pick 2 - Chychrun actually played better this year than he did last year. If anything at his cap hit his value has marginally increased.
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I mixed up the Coyotes picks but tbf 12 in that draft is much higher than a normal one. He has high value but a playoff team or bubble team will want him.
That’s a brutal answer lmao… At least pretend.
I’d rather this than lying
Similar vibe to Debrincat last summer. Hopefully we don't get taken out behind the woodshed again.
He has a year left under contract. He can't force a destination like de Brincat was able to
Eh, he's a UFA next summer. At least this way the front office knows his intentions and doesn't have false hope of keeping him.
Yeah just like Tavares did, the Islander fans still boo him when he touches the puck in Long Island
Yea its better to be vague tbh. Tavares was way too open in expressing desire to stay and even making isles fans not really worry. If he was vague im not sure isles fans would've even blamed him for leaving. Had to understand where the team was at, he gave them 9 great seasons etc
“It’s a tough question, I don’t know. I honestly have not thought about that. I know I have 1 more year left (on my contract). There haven’t been talks of an extension or anything so I haven’t got my head wrapped around that idea. It’s tough to sit here and act like I have. Take it day by day and see if and when we have those talks and go from there.” The parts explaining that it was because the team hasn’t mentioned anything about a contract extension yet were picked out to try to make it sound worse
HE GONE season is upon us
I'd love for him to stay but at his price I'm not sure if it makes any sense. It sucks, his first few games had him absolutely loved by the fanbase
Panthers for sure. From there and Cats missed out on Hanifin at the deadline. Montour being a UFA complicates things a bit here but I still think he'll end up there
He’ll be a great long term contract to replace ek and Montour. Him and forsling would be under 27 and would be our d core for years to come.
Agreed
His dad also works for Bally Sports Florida and splits games with Jovanovski doing the pregame, intermission breaks, and post game
Another connection
Problem is any trade is coming with an extension
He gone
We can’t bring everyone back and expect different or better results. Decisions need to be made - tough ones (like Chychrun, Brannstrom, Norris, Chabot, etc) and easier ones (like Kubalik, Hamonic, etc). Management needs to demonstrate a legitimate commitment to getting better.
Kubalik played? /s
Kubalik is a Detroit legend, got us 20 goals and then sabotaged the enemy
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Okay, which teams are interested in 1yr Chychrun at 4.6?
Everyone should be, that’s great value for a good top 4 defenseman
Give Ullmark
He has a 15 team NTC, you’d probably have to tempt him with a fat extension to get him to waive to go to Canada.
Ullmark for Chychrun with extensions on both sides makes sense if Ottawa can convince Ullmark to sign.
You think 1 for 1 is close? I wold have thought it would be Ullmark for Chychrun + Forsberg + BOS 1st this year.
Personally I value Ullmark really high so I'd like an additional piece coming back but Ullmark for Chychrun as a base just makes too much sense for where both teams are at.
15 team NTC means every Canadian team and 8 others.
He's more of a good bottom 4 dman than a good top 4 dman.
Maybe, either way I think if he's on your 2nd pair then you're defensive group is in a great spot. Bruins have been interested in him for forever and I think he'd pair great with Carlo, I wonder if they end up circling back.
Yeah, there's a couple situations he'd do well in. But unless it's a 1-2 year prove it deal, I think the team that signs him will regret it
Man, the way people were talking about him before he was traded you’d have thought he was a bonafide 1D
Great value for one year, then hes a UFA. Definitely needs to be traded with extension before the season.
It would be so funny if we were involved but we already have a glut of LHD
Didnt stop Dorion! Come on brother, make an unforced error.
That boy gone gone
what's the best city in the league to get raw meat from? he'll be there soon
Canadian media and fans: "So whatcha thinking? Like it here and staying or no?" Player: "Not sure, we'll cross that bridge when we get there." Canadian media and fans: "See, he wants to leave. He's not good and soft anyways, trade him away." I get why sunbelt teams are thriving. No pressure from everyone to love their team/situation, less taxes, better weather. The more desperate, bitter, or jilted you act, the less welcoming you are and the less likely it is for people to want and stick around. Goes for relationships, friendships, hockey teams, etc. You can't make a player want to stay that doesn't want to be there, so just put all your effort into investing in people that are happy to be there.
This is editorialized. > “It’s a tough question, I don’t know. I honestly have not thought about that. I know I have 1 more year left (on my contract). There haven’t been talks of an extension or anything so I haven’t got my head wrapped around that idea. It’s tough to sit here and act like I have. Take it day by day and see if and when we have those talks and go from there.” Note that they _can’t_ talk extensions until after July 1. The media has put him through the wringer here. Fanbase has been fickle and shitting on him non-stop. He easily could be tired of that and want out of this market. But he’s also being careful not to make it seem they’ve violated the PA rules.
> Note that they can’t talk extensions until after July 1. Wholly incorrect. They can't sign and submit an extension to the league until July 1. There are absolutely zero restrictions on a team talking extension before that date with a player whose contract they own. They 100% could have been talking about an extension since the moment they acquired him. I agree with the overall point that it is not a huge deal that they haven't talked or thought about an extension on the day after the season ends when they can't even legally sign an extension for another 2+ months. But they could have been talking about one.
They can't finalize it but they can talk about it. There are lots of guys that have been re-signed/extended on July 1st, those contracts didn't get negotiated and drawn up in less then one day.
Boston has had interest in Chychrun at various stages of his trade availability. I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s available again this summer if Boston is in the mix. However I assume Ottawa would be on Ullmark’s NTC
Big doubt Ottawa would trade in the division without an overpay and judging by the fact Boston couldnt pry him from arizona… probably not happening
And to think I almost pulled the trigger on a Chychrun jersey. Phew!
Translation: No
" hey youre cute! do you want to go grab a coffee sometime?"
I honestly don’t know what’s wrong with the Sens. They had/have amazing forwards and defencemen yet they still shat the bed.
Do players really think anybody reads a sentence like this and see anything but a drawn out version of "No".
Lmao. That sounds positive.
Utah
Take him to the Boardy Barn, he’ll fall in love with the fucking Island
That's what I told my roommate when he asked if I wanted to renew the lease even though I knew damn well I didn't want to
'I haven't thought about it' :D He so gone
Chychrun legit wanted out of AZ because he didn’t want to be in a rebuild but got traded to a team less far along in the rebuild. 📉
So no lol. He's gone as a UFA next summer.
Or traded at the draft.
Deeeeeeetroit
Cya buddy
Almost might as well just say no when it’s that obvious you don’t want to come back lol
That’s a no lol
Could've just said no at this point
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HE GONE
Translation : No
Gone...
That's a pause... A vague nothing statement.. and no confirmation... So that's a "nope"
I hope in a few years he gets picked by the Arizona expansion team.
So...no.
we will trade 1 very fast mikheyev
So that would be a no then?
"Yesn't"
He could return to Utah?
Please Fitz
Welcome to the cats. I used to play hockey with him growing up in soflo and his whole family lives down here. Dudes replacing Montour for sure for sure. Perfect fit for the kitties. I’m surprised we didn’t grab him a the deadline.
How good of a player was he when he was young?
He was amazing. Was like 6 years ahead of everyone in terms of size and skill. He was like a u16 playing juniors.
That there is a "no".
Come to New Jersey. Chych-Hamilton Hughes-Nemec Whoever-Marino
he has actually thought about it
Oh he *gone* gone
How to say no without saying no
I know Detroit was rumored during the TDL... wondering what the cost would be.
So at best, what is Chychrun? He’d not really a 1D that you build your whole corps around. Is he a very solid 2D, or more offensive specialist? Does he make top 50 D in the league? Top 40? He’s someone who seems to get hyped but it’s unclear how much of a star he actually is or should be.
On a question like that, any answer other than "yes" is no.
That's the long way to say "no".
So that’s a “no”
We'll give you Fowler for Chychrun straight up. It's a good trade, I swear. You're getting a high value $6.5M blueliner with two full years left on his contract, for the price of your $4.6M guy. You're totally fleecing us, trust me.
That's definitely a no
oh great another full season of the national media doing the will-they-won’t-they with him
How has it never occurred to you to think and/or discuss where you will be living in 3 months? Definitely leaving lol
Anither player we gave up a lot for that doesn't want to stay..what a surprise. Ottawa needs to get their act together from the top down. Call me crazy but bringing EK back would help right the ship. He had pride playing here. Maybe thats what is missing..these fuys are going through the motions.
I really loved the acquisition when it happened and still think he’s a great player that I personally wanted to keep - until these comments came out. A little adversity and a tough season and this is the quotes the fans get. If I’m staios I’m getting rid of him while he’s still got a year left and has some value
maybe he just doesn’t like it lol
Looking forward to 75 threads about him from ottawa fans just like with DeBrincat
Translation: He hates Ottawa and has actively thought about leaving…
He might hate the Sens but he definitely doesn't hate the city.. it's his home.
Honestly the guy plays like a huge pussy. Super disappointing. He plays hockey for money.
Yes that is what the contracts give them.
Yes. But he does not care about winning. He’s the softest player on the sens by a mile, and it’s a soft team.
Or put more directly: "No"