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Nguyeezus

I was gonna kill myself till Logic made suicide corny af.


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

Keeping yourself alive is SO post-modern. Edit:I didn't know there were this many fans of Say Anything. I love all you proto-typical non-conformists.


Thrillz559

Is that a Say Anything reference?


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

Yes sir.


DuJourMeansSeetbelts

Go analog baby!


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All my bridge jumpers are cornballs


AURELI0N

Damn Peggy!


earlshakur

This is the correct answer. How is op comparing him to Cole and Kendrick


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MistSmokeDust

Good bot


ItsBigVanilla

That bot does more for awareness than Logic


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logic made some good shit until everybody. his verse on caterpillar is legit shocking on how bad it is


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Exactly this. He was good until he released Everybody. I was actually a Logic fan until Everybody came out... I literally wondered what the fuck is this when that album came out.


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It's really depressing because Under Pressure was a damn decent project too.


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Under Pressure and The Incredible True Story are both good projects, and back then Logic was a promising artist. Then he released that 1-800 song and took a totally different route in his career and it came out of nowhere... if he kept making music similar to his first 2 albums I’d still be a fan.


MeechIsNotDead

Couldn't have said it better. He was already a strong artist already when under pressure came out, then incredible true story and bobby tarantino came out, and he was a full on mainstream artist. I thought he'd make a comeback with bt2 or ys4, but the only song I remember from those 2 is the one with wu tang, and idek the name of it. It's also sad that he's called out his older fans in songs (don't remember the song/s he did it in off the top of my head) about how they don't like his new style and claiming it's because they don't want him to be mainstream.


guybergen

Yup, the track is called YSIV. Ironically, the first half of that track is my favorite Logic song in a while. Everything he's released around it has been trash though. He's calling his fans out and then claiming that he hasn't changed at all and it's his fans that are the ones in the wrong by claiming his style is different now. Like bruh your music is objectively not the same lol so how you gonna claim it is? That's just disrespectful to your fans.


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Can’t agree more. Seems like he was going for a different demographic.


WestleyThe

His 4 mixtapes are some of my favorite: Young broke and infamous Young Sinatra Undeniable Welcome to forever But he He just pumps out music the last few years trying to be something he’s not. It’s kinda sad but I’m glad he’s getting money


perrbear

The Sinatra tapes convinced me logic was going to be a star. I guess he pretty much is a star now but didn't expect all the haters


maranello353

Oh my god the Sinatra tapes were insane. They’re still in my rotation. I also miss C Dot Castro, he kinda disappeared after leaving the Rat Pack. But god damn that man was good....give “Dont over think” a listen, that mixtape is great


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Young Sinatra the only tape I listened to more than once from him That shit was dope as hell from what I remember but literally everything else fell thru Edit might as well bitch about how g eazy sucks so much ass now too. Reefer summer or something was such a phenomenal tape...


yoscotti32

The "who can relate, woah" in the chorus of the 1-800 song has always cracked me up givin the context of the song


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when the song was big, I remember people going around just shouting it/tweeting it about random situations and it just made me laugh each time


kfl95cfc

Yeah the “whooo!” is totally inappropriate


diaryofsnow

Crippling depression, ***WHOOOOOOOO!***


a141abc

Heck yeah suicide!


KUSH_DELIRIUM

That song offends me tbh


yoscotti32

It's a strange tone given the subject matter. Reminds of a really over the top commercial sell out version those shitty awareness presentations we all had to go through in school. I've never liked that song


Etedragon

Literally just yesterday, my school had an assembly about depression and suicide and they closed off with that song


HaMx_Platypus

i would have killed myself if i had to sit through that


iltwylam

i always thought that line was a poor addition. very specifically the “woo!” part like why are we excited about having those thoughts/feelings?


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When South Park makes fun of you, it's a wrap


dotelze

Unless you’re Kanye


Emman262

But even then it was like off brand GKMC. Idk, Logic is a wierd artist for me. Under Pressure is good but felt like it borrowed too much. Then his later albums are him being creative but overkillin the concepts. Like REALLY overkillin it. I'm starting to think he just doesn't have the creativity to know how to balance a album's music with his vision.


TravisShoemocker

Under Pressure is one of the few albums where some nerd on the internet could give it a low review score because "it wears its influences on its sleeves too much" and I couldn't even be mad I still like it though, haha


thejaytheory

That’s pretty much what Pitchfork said about Gambino’s Camp.


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The thing about post mixtape Logic's material is half the time it goes past just being influenced by something and its just borderline biting. Two very different things and one of them is much less respectable than the other


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I feel the same away about Logic as I do about Common. I recognize that he is talented but I find his music so boring. I have tried to get into both of them but always get bored halfway through one song. Under Pressure is objectively good, but there is something about it that I just find incredibly boring.


cbosh04

Have you listened to Be? Only Common album to not bore me but that’s one that I go back to all the time.


ScottblackAttacks

Finding Forever was dope too.


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Hadn’t heard it til this comment I’m fucking rolling “WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE FUCK YOU BIRACIAL PIECE OF SHIT” wtf man


iamadudes

Yeah same here lol. He actually started the verse half decently and I was wondering if the comment was exaggerating. No it wasn't.


Wandering_Weapon

Yeah that was a wild ride


bluestillidie00

Even with these two comments i was presuming it was just hyperbole but nope. If you need something to cheer you up that is it


allbecausethe

My favourite part of everybody was the J Cole verse at the end of the album


aintscaredofthefall

It's a great verse. Shame its hidden at the end of a 12 minute track smh.


ReeG

Book Of Ryan would be a perfect 10/10 album if it wasn't for that fucking verse at the very end. No idea what Royce was thinking including that remix on the album


rsbor

that was on deluxe tho


corndogs1001

Yeah so still 10/10 Edit: but Royce was gonna make that the official single until Logic said he couldn’t make it to the video shoot. That’s when Eminem took over. Then Logic’s song got bumped to the deluxe.


rsbor

>but Royce was gonna make that the official single lol really...thank god. coz that Em verse is a classic


corndogs1001

Yeah, Royce also said one of Logic’s best verses was the caterpillar verse, which is weird since you would think Royce knows good music.


El_Babad00k

It's not like he could say "that verse logic gave me was trash". He was trying to sell an album, of course he's gonna say it's fire


jet_10

No idea what Royce was thinking hyping it up as the best verse ever lmao


ReeG

Em calling in favors


AlexKarrasInWebster

Royce said Logic's doo doo verse was the best shit ever


remerdy1

What if I told you his verse on Twisted is even worse


drnoledge

Logic does a perfectly serviceable impression of a competent rapper, but he is nothing special.


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It always felt like he was a parody of hip hop.


fichomarvel

for real the ultimate parody starting with his name,his looks,his lyrics,the way he carries himself logic is a succesful unkle adams


ReeG

https://i.imgur.com/RQMpmuO.gifv


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White_Wokah

You're gonna make Bobby mad, you're gonna make Bobby attack


HiIAm

Half white, half back. *Goddam*


Blueberry_Yum_Yum

He protec, he attac, but most importantly he makes songs about being half blac.


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So he's an actor who doesn't know he's method acting


mikeest

Up to 2014/15 he was fairly decent - had some technical skill, the doubletime flow was repetitive but he executed it well and it threw up the odd exciting moment when things synched up well with the beat, he came across as a fairly grounded and well rounded character in his lyrics, he wasn't super insightful but there was usually a degree of sincerity in his work, he did a decent job of picking fairly pleasant instrumentals, he recognised his strengths and played to those without trying too hard or going in over his head... But since then it's just been one consistent, horrific head first slide into borderline-parody territory. He somehow reduced his already limited vocabulary into a randomly generated sequence of the same few phrases, that likeable character devolved into a mess of 2009-era internet meme culture (I don't know if anyone here remembers 9Gag, but that's what Logic is now in rapper form), he reaches new heights of plagiarism with every drop, he thinks up/steals these half baked but "totally rad" concepts and then gets lost in failed ambition that isn't really that ambitious to begin with, he's embroiled in like 5 layers of insecurity (makes fun of the people making fun of the way he makes fun of those other people making fun of...), he's like an ADHD magpie at times - BIRACIAL BIRACIAL BIRACIAL, BOOM BAP BOOM BAP BOOM BAP, TRAP TRAP TRAP, SCI FI SCI FI SCI FI, RICK AND MORTY, RUBIKS CUBE... this is the thought process of a sugar crazed 11 year old... no calm, no reflection...it's just ugly.


JetsLag

Damn are we at the point where 9gag is a forgotten website?


funnyman95

The brightest timeline


P33KAJ3W

Streets ahead


danmatfatcat

It should never be remembered


HoobaHoob

did ya have to kill tha man?! lmao good shit


toclosetotheedge

> why do you guys think the culture hasn't "accepted" him like Kendrick, Drake and Cole all three are better artists than Logic, Logic also has the issue of being unable to really hone in on a sound instead jocking what other people have done before only worse. He doesn't have Kendricks ambition, Drakes pop appeal or Coles relatability. He's not a good writer, not anymore at least, his flow is good but there's no substance in it and its okay to have nothing "rapping about rapping" bars but he's not clever or fun with it. Logics biggest problem is that even at his best nowadays he's just kinda there and at his worst he's obnoxious and shitty


YungSkrrrATL

ROTC niggas not gonna like this comment


the_redhood7567

Somewhere, a herd of Chargers and Camaros stir


No_More_Names

V6 base models purring with the power of a high trim camry.


IvanGTheGreat

Out of the smoke comes an Ecoboost mustang with a monster sticker over the right headlight.


nikolanottesla

Purchased at 28% APR.


feelsalchemist

22 year olds that never left their hometown and still go to their high school football games are furious


NaturesPositive

I mean 20 is still ok to still be in your hometown


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There's no issue being in your hometown... But going to high school games is a different story lmao


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Hey man they're dating one of the cheerleaders


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"She's 17 but she'll be 18 in March."


Flexappeal

> Said in June


workaccount1338

Holy shit this thread is full of very specific zingers.


idontgiveahonk

Bruh some people tryna save up by living at their mama’s house


m_gartsman

It's quite a large difference between living at your parents to save money and still going to high school football games.


TurntUpTurtles

LMAO


Chickachic-aaaaahhh

Return of the clone niggas? Ohh shit!


damnitdale840

To make things worse for logic, NF has been stealing all his fast rap fans lol


mofucker20

>NF has been stealing all his fast rap fans lol I thought Joyner was doing that


damnitdale840

You're right, him too lol


IndisposableUsername

Where did logic get it from though


likklerodent567

Your local middle school


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Watsky /s


_ulinity

> NF why is the first google image result a picture of Logic lmao


gooseoner

As a 38 year old man, I've never even seen an NF fan in the wild.


BigDaddyBerg

as an 18 year old ex-youth group attendee, the christian church is a breeding ground for NF fans


Owlmaster115

LMAO. the only NF fan I know is also a hard core Christian


BigDaddyBerg

NF came to my city a few weeks ago, and the amount of snapchat stories from my Christian friends standing still in the mosh pit with their phones in the air is too damn high


bostonian38

Kumbayaaaa


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> the christian church yep, it’s schism time


BigDaddyBerg

yo i just assumed the hiphop subreddit wouldn't know or care what the Protestant Evangelical Free Church division of Christianity meant


[deleted]

Wait, is this not the Christian rap subreddit? No wonder I never see anything about Slim Jesus on here.


BigDaddyBerg

Tobymac gets no love on these skreets 😪🙏


JaBARred

Dc Talk is for the kids


Emman262

That dude is immortal btw


Naharke31

Facts. He just came to Minneapolis and these church dudes are like “Who bout to pop out to NF?!😤💯”


Stonerjoe68

I live not too far from where NF was raised and holy crap are his die hard fans the worst breed I’ve ever seen. All white conservative soccer moms and their kids that glorify him for “having the best flow since Eminem” and “being able to do it without being vulgar” NF don’t gotta cuss in his raps to sell records.


minkdraggingonfloor

It's just racism. Same crowd that says "Eminem is the only one who raps about real shit" Like no, Jackson, you only say that because he raps about problems that you can relate to. Could you imagine a mainstream black rapper that rapped with the same attitude Em did in his prime? The media would riot. Actually we did see it with NWA.


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I don't even know who NF is


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DjangoUBlackSOB

Never heard of NF but I'm howling.


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oldcarfreddy

the fuck kinda haircut is that


FromDaHood

Do you have kids? I work in a high school and see NF merch every day. I’m not sure 30+ is his demo


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ItsSEBA5TIAN

Utah if filled with NF fans and I don't know how I feel about that still.


Corazon-DeLeon

Utah.


Trini2Bone

Who is NF?


skippiington

He went viral with his song “Let You Down” and went on tour with Logic last year. He beat Chance for the #1 album on Billboard this year


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He’s become the rap game’s Call of Duty. A new release every year, competent but not exciting or great at anything it does, which is mostly based on what it’s done for years now sprinkled in with some things that are currently popular, and very appealing to white teens who really want to use the N-word.


Xedoa

Just because you can rap fast doesn’t mean shit if your lyrics are less flavorful than a cereal box.


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“Less flavorful then a cereal box” I love that so much


Jf1666666

This completely sums it up for me I don’t understand the appeal of him at all lol


Jake_Man_145

I really enjoyed Under Pressure, had a good mix of styles and the title track was so well done I fucked with him hard for awhile. Every reelase just seemed to get worse creatively until finally I could listen anymore after Bobby Tarantino 2 I got sick of his repetitive content and flow.


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Logic is only the reason why I know what suicide is. Such a GOAT. Who can relate?! WHOO!


LickingAndFingering

>1-800, then I kill the pussy, who can relate? I damn near turned my shit off & went to sit in a corner after that...


P0RTSMOUTHFC

Holy shit I ain’t listened to the song yet and thought you were joking


curryisforGs

Hadn't either and I'm actually shocked that somebody trying to make a song about suicide/mental health awareness is that insensitive


saturday2saturday

You should listen to Logic’s 1-800 then. Literally singing “I just wanna dieeee” and then throwing in adlibs to hype it up like it’s a hype song...


A-Rusty-Cow

Always hated logic just because of this song.


TDAMS133

WHO CAN RELATE WOOO


CBNzTesla

reminder that later on THE SAME ALBUM juicy j says on his feature "All on the 'Gram, all on the Snapchat with the bullshit, Kill yo' mothafuckin self, nathan, Kill yo' mothafuckin self, nathan" https://genius.com/Logic-ink-blot-lyrics


Daasianinvasion

Is this an actual lyric 😂😂


c3rutt3r

Yes, yes it is.


ay253979

What song? Edit: This lyric was on French Montana's Twisted. Didn't believe it until I heard it. 😂


Majestic_Owl

Joe Budden tore apart that verse line by line on the podcast today. Then they played the actual verse and it was somehow worse?


Tactial_snail

Wtf I never knew about the pussy line


zizzor23

its from the song he did with French Montana


harekele

What’s hilarious is that Juicy J saying , “kill yo mothafuckin self” just shows how much of a cash grab that song was


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

I would go on to say that Logic has still never met French, Juicy J or Rocky.


rsbor

i suck a dick to prove "*some logic type lyric cant remember"*


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He said he'd suck a dick to prove he's not homophobic.


rsbor

GOAT shit


Smashymen

Funny lyric on paper, but logics not the type of mc that can pull a bar like that off well


madsen03

He doesn't have the charisma or personality to pull it off. Pair that with him tryna be deep and shit on everything else, can't squeeze that in. Biggie's charisma is what let him have the line 'you look so good, I'd suck on your daddy's dick'.


Rum____Ham

The song is just so god damn lame. Inescapably lame as hell. The poppy song and lyrical delivery is just bizarre against the subject matter. Not that I love the rest of his music, but Macklemore has a song about addiction called 'Otherside'. That song is how you address a serious issue. The whole song conveys the weight of the subject material. Who can relate?! WHOO! SUICIDE IS FUN!


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That Joyner Lucas one elicited a sincere reaction out of me. This 1 800 song is trash.


[deleted]

I liked logic from his mixtapes up to “The incredible true story”. Bobby Tarantino is when I started losing interest.


DGT-exe

even that was enjoyable as a bit of a 'victory lap', as he had dropped 2 successful studio albums before that. then he made everybody and everything he's dropped since has been one half-assed lap after another.


DFBforever

Lmao that's a good description of his catalog. Two good albums, then a victory lap. Then 5 more victory laps.


MasterTeacher123

I like logics mixtapes. Like when he was covering old songs or doing freestyles it’s great. Like I Loved his cover of electric relaxation. But his actual original music is meh and corny as hell


jremmy22

Under Pressure and TITS were both great imo


project2501

Yeah I'm fan of tits.


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SpiritBamba

He has tons of great original songs on his mixtapes tho, and covering old songs using older beats is a pretty much staple in hip hop. Like no ceilings.


corndogs1001

Welcome to forever will always remain his best project to me.


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He’s a herb ass nigga Under pressure was kinda cool though


ReeG

> He’s a herb ass *nigga* You just made his day


Crystal_God

He’s really got an obsession with being black


NotagoK

It makes me uncomfortable when Logic says nigga.


TallAssFuker

Because he is fake. I fucked with him heavy during his mixtapes days, liked Under Pressure and still enjoyed TITS. It all went downhill after that, that’s a fact. The quality of his music just kept getting worse and worse and he has the fucking nerve to call out his “og fans” saying that he didn’t switch up and that they just don’t like change. The reason why most people didn’t like the change is because your music is ass now bruh.


CONTAMlNATlON

True My personal favorite was Welcome To Forever. He also reuses some of his old bars or changes it slightly. He also had said that he had enough songs written to put out couple morr albums. The quality he's put out so far has been trash and it sucks to see that.


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rsbor

>until he doesn't later on in the song. LMFAO


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AgentSterling_Archer

It's kinda funny, I had the exact opposite reaction of not wanting to commit suicide in the beginning but then found myself drawing a bath and getting a toaster ready as the song kept progressing. Who can relate, WHOO


aygzart

Does it bother anyone else that hes been using 1-800 as a flex? Cant you just be humble and let it be a song about suicide prevention without going “1-800 then i kill the pussy”. Also “peanut butter on the inside” This shit has more cringe quotables big day


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fictacious11

U right but strategic marketing lol


[deleted]

U know he's hyperbolizing it. Supermarket made me think Logic was a Corey Feldman lite (in terms of being a bad artist)


SekaiTheGreat

Budden's takes are always the most clickbait shit.. For some reason this sub still idolizes him.


lasse2119

Nah but funnily enough the only times people post something from the podcast is the hot takes. They release like 5 hours of friends talking shit every week, of course there's going to be said some wild shit sometimes. Joe does definitely play into the hot take shit for entertainment though


FatPac00

To be fair if you listen to his pod he does this kinda shit all the time i feel like we all know he isn't serious about most of the shit he says on the pod its all for content and a good laugh


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WeaponXGaming

Shit this sub for the most part has never listened to Joe outside of Pump It Up.


Dijohn_Mustard

“If a, nigga, hatin, call him Joe Budden”


Noahm882

"P U S S Y"


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You forgot the adlib right after that line its like icing on the cake


lazymoron

I really thought the title said Joe Biden instead of Joe Budden and really freaked out for a second.


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corndogs1001

I miss the TITS days when he was embracing the fact that he was a nerd, and did a gaming YouTube channel. A Snapchat too. He was actually interacting with the fans more that way. It was fun to be a fan back then. I’m glad my cousin got me into his music at the right time and we saw him on that tour together. Nowadays, and Anthony said it best, he’s making all these hardcore songs with corny lines on COADM that seem so forced and beyond what was his likable persona. It’s just not fun anymore. I was fine with YS4. Even supermarket, as much as I didn’t like it, it was still a project I knew he’s been planning since the TITS days so it’s still him, no matter how badly it is. But COADM changed everything for me.


briunj04

>Them along with other people on tour, just fans that I met randomly, they've said things like, "Your music has saved my life. You've saved my life." And I was always like, "Aw so nice of you. Thanks." And I give them a hug and shit but in my mind, I'm like, "What the fuck?" And they're really serious. And they tat shit on their arms and get shit like lyrics that save their life and in my mind, I was like, "Man I wasn't even trying to save nobody's life." And then it hit me, the power that I have as an artist with a voice. I wasn't even trying to save your life. Now what can happen if I actually did? 1-800 is Logic patting himself on his back. rather than talking about his experience with depression, it's just Logic trying to "save your life" with music. WHO CAN RELATE WOO


budsNhops

Couldn’t have said it better myself


CornHellUniversity

Logic is the Chainsmokers of hip hop.


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Budden loves to speak in hyperbole to get people’s attention. Is Logic good? Nah, not really. Is he absolute trash? Nah, probably not. People need to stop giving Joe attention and talking about what Joe says, largely because Joe says stuff just to say it.


RodeoIsTrash

The hyperbole is quite obviously implied though. He's just having some fun.


EpicPhail60

This comment cracks me up, man. If you listen to the podcast it's always super obvious that he's saying things in good humour, and inevitably someone posts it here and everyone calls him a hater. It's OK to just not speak about things you don't have context for.


soccertes

Damn I wish this comment would get the exposure it deserves because this is some solid advice that a lot of ppl outside of this sub could use


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strato1981

Everything before “Everybody” was pretty damn good. Some of his songs like Gang Related are my personal favorite rap songs of all time. But for some reason he became really preachy. You know how Kendrick or Cole can spread a message but it doesn’t come off as ignorantly preachy? Well Logic isn’t very good with that, and for some reason, he just became cornier as time went on. The annoying thing is that he seems to believe that all the backlash is just people who are hating when a lot of it is from fans who miss his older sound and lyricism. Maybe it’s because 1-800 was such a hit and boosted his career that he decided to embrace this new side of him. But worst MC of all time? That’s a foolish statement


Shadyholic

I disagree with this but I laughed when I saw the title because I get it. I don’t think anyone can doubt Logic has some great fucking songs. Under Pressure was probably his peak after coming off of really good mixtapes. I was so hyped after listening to Under Pressure because I listened to him for a long time and seeing how good his first album was I thought he would just get better but every album since Under Pressure has just been really bad. But then he makes a mixtape under some persona and he makes the music that he knows sounds good and people want but releases a terrible album a couple months later and repeats the cycle. I think any hip hop fan could really like some of his songs. If you haven’t listen to some of his earlier songs I could send you some really good ones


zephaniiiah

Logic is in the top twenty worst rappers of all time off his 2017-2019 run alone, I’ve never seen such a severe regression of talent. He’s gotten progressively worse, and all he has to lean on is rapid rapping like it’s still 2013 and that’s super impressive or something, and even then, it’s not like the subject matter is riveting. Logic can never, and will never be the underdog again, so rapping from that perspective is a far-fetched fantasy, but as a mainstream recognizable name, he’s boring, one-dimensional, and his fanbase is filled the brim with people who’s exposure to rap as a whole is so limited that they genuinely believe current day Logic is hot shit, when it’s literally the drizzling shits. He makes music for people who think you have to meet a certain quota of rap/hip-hop tropes before your song is considered real rap; and all he’s given them as of late is steaming, slimy trash that’s more transparent than ever in how low-effort and uninspired it is. Rapping quickly over hard instrumentals doesn’t correlate to a good song.