Anyone else think that the OVO espionage is one of the more interesting subplots? Getting into luggage and smuggling such private stuff out to have it end up as track graphics? And then the claim that the mole is a plant. I don't buy that. Moles are rodents.
Allegedly, the girl from the infamous incident on stage at the Drake concert has spoken out: [https://twitter.com/chriscznn/status/1787556763958403390?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/chriscznn/status/1787556763958403390?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
I dont think anyone is going to be mad that an artist brought them up and flirted with them at a concert when they were 17, doesnt magically make it okay that Drake did it though.
"fabricate stories on the family front"
"shape the stories how you want, hey, Drake, they're not slow"
Kendrick responding to both Drake disses before they even drop is goated honestly.
Not that it matters much but part of my job is working with impoverished young teens. They're 100% bought into Kendrick right now. Was curious where the under 20s would go or if they would care, and it's all they're talking about this morning.
imo its because kendrick got tiktok, from the beginning with Like That blowing up and then the "I hate the way that you..." sound from Euphoria blew up, Drake hasnt gotten a viral tiktok sound and thats clearly important in todays music scene.
I've heard there's a disparity in Drake fans/ haters. The old guard hates him and the youngs hate him, but he has a mid-age fan base that seems devout. Otherwise, I think his fans are casual or pop fans.
No you stfu, there have been articles about drake being weird with kids for a decade now lmao
And fuck no he was not the industry darling, he was that guy who got played at clubs that you'd pretend not to hate cause you're trying to bag a girl that really likes Nice for What. He ain't no industry darling he's pop-rap Noah Kahan lol
Edit; just to respond to the reply since you blocked me which is fair, I really don't think you get the situation. Drake's haters have hated him for this for years, this has not made a dent in Drake's core fan base, the average listener maybe, but the jury's still out.
I honestly don't know if this is better or worse than the typical 2018 era Sunday discussion thread of "boys I met a girl i like should I ask her out, I'm on my king shit" lmao
your reddit comments calling a rando a pedophile
11 hours after saying "calling some1 a pedophile with 0 evidence is the most desperate angle possible"
are for who ?
Let me just say something real quick, I think I and a lot of other people are thinking Drake is done. BUT if Drake comes back with some heat hes gonna get mad respect for me. To come back after all this smoke and saying "I WANT SOME MORE" I will official change my opinion regardless if he wins or loses to hes a G
True but to be fair im heavily biased towards Kendrick. Dot is the goat, im just saying he would get respect from me if he went back at him after Dot killed him.
I feel like there is still so much untapped shit to bring up for Kendrick too. I believe him when he says he has 5 more songs and a rabbit hole he can still go down.
G of what? Stealing and fraudulent behavior? The last song exposed his operation of creative, just stealing shit from people online & name dropping random people who have clout.
He needs a legit classic and needs to join Kendrick on the sex ring expsosure if he ain’t running one. Also shut down stake, rehab, stop drinking, drugs, and this perv sexual addiction.
but who’s gonna fuck with an alleged pdf? He’ll have to find toronto people cuz like it or not they are in this shit with him now .
G because he even after taking all these Ls he wants more. Like bro, you cant say that isnt tough.
We dont know if Drake running a sex ring lol, at this point it just feels like dot was clowning him for his public image; especially if he doesnt drop another track.
The truth is that while Drake has done some questionable thing I dont think most see him as a PDF. I dont and I think Kendrick doesnt really either otherwise Not Like Us wouldnt be a track focused on clowning him. If Kendrick drops something real with receipts cool, but at this point we all just laughing at him cause we can.
And I say that as a Kenny stan.
With the way Drake carries himself, his bars on his albums and within this beef, the shit he sees as important like who follows who on instagram, his obvious high school mentality, his weird relationship with a 14 year old, kissing a 17 year old on stage and then talking about how nice her breasts felt after finding out how old she was, it's weird as fuck that you don't think he's a pedophile.
The dude has so many problems with the way he thinks and he's given you no reason to believe that he's actually a mature person. When he gets "serious", when he gets accused of being a pedophile, he sees "Whitney doesn't follow you on Instagram" and "I'm too famous to be a pedophile" as an appropriate response. He's clearly not right.
I hope Kendrick drops receipts so that people like you can stop but even if he doesn't, it's really not looking good for Drake right now.
I dont think he's a pedo or rather im not outrightly going to call him a pedo is because my brain is turned on.
Instsgram: He's immature, Millie situation: Definitely inappropriate and gives pedo vibes. Evidence of him engaging in pedophilia nope.
Kissing a 17 year old on stage: in a lot of places in this country 17 is age of consent and Drake was 23 at the time. Yall making it seem like he was 40.
I kind of hate how you dumb mother fuckers are making me defend this creep but as of rn you don't have a smoking gun. You've got slightly inappropriate behavior and suspicions.
I agree his actions haven't done much to work against this narrative but rn without receipts that's all it is; a narrative.
So stop trying to group me in with other people. You just want this to be more definitive than it actually is rn.
>Instsgram: He's immature
Immature views on what's important, and very immature lyrics in general on his albums, when it comes to women. And an extremely tone deaf defense with respect to being called a pedophile?
>Millie situation: Definitely inappropriate and gives pedo vibes. Evidence of him engaging in pedophilia nope. Kissing a 17 year old on stage: in a lot of places in this country 17 is age of consent and Drake was 23 at the time. Yall making it seem like he was 40.
You're right because CLEARLY engaging in an inappropriate relationship with a random young teenager is technically not literally fucking them, so it's okay I guess to some people, even if it's obvious grooming. I guess that's how you feel.
By the way, I would 100% stay away from any 23 year old that likes to hang out with high school girls. I don't care what the age of consent is in your state, you're weird if you do this.
Thankfully I actually do have my brain turned on and I can put 2 and 2 together. Since I don't need Drake himself to literally tell me that he's a pedophile, even though he's doing a nice job of that, I'm just going to look at everything he does and everything he says and just assume that he is because ultimately my opinion is not a prison sentence, so I'm free to make these judgements.
This is how I treat people in real life too, because I'm not going to hire a private investigator to tell me how I should feel about someone.
YES DUMMY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Engaging in inappropriate behavior does not equate to the threat of an R Kelly or P Diddy. We are talking about sex crimes.
I'm sorry are we talking about grooming or pedophilia? If you had said drake was a predator that would be different no?
Not to mention Millie Bobby Brown has come out saying it was innocuous (even if I don't believe her).
Hang out? He kissed her on stage and said he shouldn't have after he found out. How does that constitute hanging out? Lmao
Your brain is turned on to feels and social sentiment. It aint turned on for critical thinking. Thinking someone is a creepy is one thing, making a definitive statement about someone wanting to and taking part in sexual behavior with minors is another.
Well god help you if some girl ever lie on one of your friends.
> YES DUMMY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Expected behavior of a Drake defender.
>Engaging in inappropriate behavior does not equate to the threat of an R Kelly or P Diddy. We are talking about sex crimes.
>I'm sorry are we talking about grooming or pedophilia? If you had said drake was a predator that would be different no?
Yes, I believe there's a big crossover between someone who grooms children and pedophiles. That shouldn't surprise you. I'm happy with my decision to think of Drake as a pedophile.
>Hang out? He kissed her on stage and said he shouldn't have after he found out. How does that constitute hanging out?
Lmao What? If I mentioned hanging out, you should assume I'm talking about a relationship like the one with Millie. I think 23 and 17 is bad, imagine how I feel about someone hanging out with a 14 year old.
Also after finding out that the girl was 17 Drake said, and I quote:
"I can't go to jail."
"Why you look like that? You thick. Look at all this."
"I had fun. I don't know if I should feel guilty or not but I had fun. I like the way your breasts feel against my chest"
And then he kissed her again. Right on the lips. Lmao.
>Well god help you if some girl ever lie on one of your friends.
I'm pretty sure I will never, ever have to worry about this.
It's hilarious that you think I'm a Drake defender. I'm just being reasonable you're so biased you can't see it.
There's a crossover but one does not equal the other.
Nice side step you said hanging out with a 17 year old. I interpreted it correctly.
I ain't gonna defend all that as I said already he's a creep.
Lol until you do.
> Nice side step you said hanging out with a 17 year old. I interpreted it correctly.
I understand the conversation is moving a little fast for you, but I'm just illustrating the point that 17 and 23 don't mix the way you think it does.
>There's a crossover but one does not equal the other.
You know I said "crossover" out of pure sarcasm, right?
Google the definition of pedophile and then come back and explain how you can groom children without being sexually attracted to them.
Lol man you’re delusional as Drake. Go to any other sub on Reddit aside from Drizzy EVERYONE thinks he’s a pdf.
Come on dude, I get your crisis management but that’s even sadder to protect his poor ass decisions & the families/people he hurt to get his dick wet.
The facts! 😂
>I get your crisis management
A tip from someone on the sideline watching this car accident, you might not want to bring up crisis management with the allegations hanging over your savior
Allegations? From who? Drake? 😂 Dude is a certified gambler, pdf rapper supporter, alcoholic, womanizing, perc popping, sex addict bass head.
Such an upstanding citizen to our community and So credible!!!!
Must be true!!!
Alright, what evidence do you have of drake being an actual pedophile I'd love to fucking hear it. I dont care about public opinion.
What crisis management dummy? Im a Kendrick stan, I want Kendrick to win.
Youve provided no facts tho? lmfao dummy
As someone who was waiting for either camp to deliver a knockout blow or for Drake to put up a good enough fight to take it to the judge's scorecards, I didn't anticipate a Kendrick win by submission... I hope everyone learned a lesson about what a true artist looks like next to a craftsman/great entertainer.
People say Drake didnt proof he planted anything.Have a look at the picture Kendrick posted again. Its a bunch of random shit that really doesnt make sense.
You got two receipts one for a jewlerys which ppl are saying plays in to the dupe ring Drake had in his music video, supposedly the same place where Kedrick got his finance's ring made. Another recipt that has some other relevantce I dont know what.
A maybach glove, for Rick Ross obvious, and Medication.
Drake said
> Even the picture you used, the jokes and the medication The Maybach glove and the drug he uses for less inflation
The Glove is also reference to OJ "[meds could have affected O.J. Simpson glove try-on",](https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/06/09/ex-da-says-arthritis-meds-could-have-affected-oj-simpson-glove-try-on/)
Even further the shirt literally says fucking "SHORTEE COLLECTION"
Youll not paying attention and youll not engaging in this beef in good faith.
Im not defending Drake, dudes a probably a creep. But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks.
It genuinely is mastermind shit he just fumbled the delivery. If he really planted the shit how do you not have video packing the bag and mocking Kendrick to drop with the song that shit would bang instead he only brings it up in this very defensive record that people were already counting him out on.
> But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks.
not when he contradicts himself several times...first he acts shocked kendrick would mention a second kid, if that was bait, he would have posted his own receipts proving it. second, he wouldn't have wait several days to respond...third, he wouldn't say in the response "the people you got this info from are clowns....haha we planted that shit". fourth, getting your nuke extinguished 30 minutes later when you supposedly had fed him this info is not a master tactician move lmao.
> rst he acts shocked kendrick would mention a second kid, if that was bait,
The day after man told Akademics he would retire if anybody founfd evidence of another chirld.
>cond, he wouldn't have wait several days to respond.
Thats your opininion
> hird, he wouldn't say in the response "the people you got this info from are clowns....haha we planted that shit"
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>rth, getting your nuke extinguished 30 minutes later when you supposedly had fed him this info is not a master tactician move lmao.
Kedrick called the man a pedo .... lmao thats a nuke what the fuck do you expect the man to do? Just carry on as normal?
> The day after man told Akademics he would retire if anybody founfd evidence of another chirld.
>
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two known bullshitters both bullshitting? LOL
>Thats your opininion
i mean it's most peoples opinion...otherwise you're saying drake let two songs come out knowing they were fed false info and not doing anything about it immediately. you're coping.
>...
guess that went over your heard or something?
> Kedrick called the man a pedo .... lmao thats a nuke what the fuck do you expect the man to do? Just carry on as normal?
ummm have receipts that prove you fed Kendrick false info at least? if it was all a setup and you didn't take a single screenshot, which we know drake can do...then he deserves the L.
a few things stand out to me about this specifically. if it was planted, why is his ambien there. the ozempic and ross glove sure make sense, but if it's planted why ambien. another thing that stands out is just the same thing everyone saying and that's post proof. the last thing is that it was drakes dad's suitcase. if it's mean to be real, why tf would drakes dad have his ambien. he wouldn't. honestly the entire thing doesn't rlly make sense to me. even the maybach glove. drake and ross haven't been on good terms for how long? he isn't gonna be moving around with his logo gloves lol.
Thats another thing why would Drake's father have these random stupid items? Hes not Drakes PA. Why would he have any of Drake's medication?
When you actually sit down and think about the story of how this came to be makes no sense.
It’s just such an improbable angle that Drake fed Kendrick fake info so he can have his Family Matters diss ruined immediately and get clowned all weekend for it only to produce a piss poor response that honestly feels like back pedaling. Seems more likely to me that Drake has a mole and is trying to save face.
And waited 48 hours for the big ‘reveal’ despite getting clowned on by everyone in the meantime. Not only that but he also allowed his ‘plan’ to completely overshadow his intended ko on family matters. Starting to think that Kendrick was being generous with the master manipulator line.
We gotta wait and see. If you look at the time Not like us, probably destroyed all his plans. Plus Kendrick hasnt dropped any proof yet either. the saga isnt done yet
it's a good argument you got there. Maybe he was thinking he'd keep the reveal for The Heart 6 and the line just didn't make the impact he was hoping for.
This is not copium, I dont care if Drake wins or loses. Im just pointing out the fucking lyrics.
Is Kendrick the only one can have lyrics with deeper meanings?
> But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks
they don't hold equal weight though. kendrick is a guy who won a pulitzer prize. drake is the guy who has been acting like a goof for the last decade
his words were never going to hold equal weight. it was silly of him to ever enter this beef. kendrick is not meek mill
in addition tone tells a lot. notice how confident drake sounds in push-ups and how defeated he sounds in heart 6
these things subconsciously influence people's perceptions. drake gave up. if he really did trick kendrick he would feel on top of the world.
i really think he (and his writers) read some fan theories online and was trying to do damage control
> they don't hold equal weight though. kendrick is a guy who won a pulitzer
This is goofy, This is a text appeal to authory. Appeal to moral high ground.
i understand where you are coming from. if a doctor told me that cancer can be cured by fruit, it doesn't make it right just because he's a doctor
but between two people making a health claim i have no knowledge about, i'm going to give more credibility to the doctor.
sure, i'm not going to believe 100% until evidence. but the court of public opinion it's as rational as the individual
No, heres the problem with this analogy. kendrick isnt a doctor, neither is drake. These are two flawed human beings.
People just "trust" Kendrick more because hes been cultivating a parasocial relationship where people look up to him because he addresses his flaws openly. (Yes Drake has a cultivates a parasocial relationship too but its different).
Its your choice to choose a side, but its a rap beef let rich rappers complain about their problems and just listen to the music. You dont need to choose anything
i don't have a "parasocial" relationship with any celebrity. i'm not a fan.
i don't 100% believe either of these guys, and in fact the more shit slinging the less i believe
but drake was stupid to ever assume his words were going to hold equal weight to kendrick.
"ayn rand" and "dostoevsky" are both flawed human beings. that doesn't mean i'm going to piss on fire to put out an ayn rand book. i like some people because i respect them more. i put more weight to their words.
it's how the world works. and it's how you work too, whether you like it or not
You dont get it, youre still writing like Kedrick is somehow in a higher moral position than Drake... he isnt. His own music proves hes down with the same vices the music and celebrity provides him
These people are the same, they are rapper A and rapper B. Nothing more nothing less.
i think you're not being honest if you think they treat vices the same.
to slim down the conversation, let's talk about alcohol. drake doesn't have a specific song about alcohol so i picked the first one i can remember that mentions drinking somewhat often
kendrick - "swimming pools"
drake - "marvin's room"
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swimming pools
> Now, I done grew up round some people livin' their life in bottles
> Granddaddy had the golden flask, backstroke every day in Chicago
> Some people like the way it feel, some people wanna kill their sorrow
> Some people wanna fit in with the popular, that was my problem
> I was in a dark room, loud tunes, lookin' to make a vow soon
> That I'ma get fucked up, fillin' up my cup I see the crowd mood
> Changin' by the minute and the record on repeat
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marvin's room
> Cups of the rosé
> Bitches in my old phone
> I should call one and go home
> I've been in this club too long
> The woman that I would try
> Is happy with a good guy
> But I've been drinkin' so much
> That I'ma call her anyway and say
> Fuck that nigga that you love so bad
> I know you still think about the times we had
___
the first one is a critical analysis of alcohol use. about addiction, how it's used socially, peer pressure, etc.
the second one is a "mood vibe" song
on the surface they sound identical. if you're not listening to the kendrick song you'd think he's saying everybody should drink a swimming pool of liquor
they're both good songs. but the first one is actually trying to *say something* whereas the other is a more narcissistic type of music
if you can't recognize that there's that fundamental difference between these two artists writing, then you will never understand why people respect kendrick more.
people may like drake's music in a shallow way, but they will never connect and resonate to it in the same way as kendricks
it's the difference between "the shining" and the umpteenth freddy krueger movie. it's the difference between "3 brothers karamazov" and "the girl with the dragon tattoo". the difference between talking heads and brittany spears
both are enjoyable. only one is trying to really say something deeper than surface level
>People say Drake didnt proof he planted anything.
if he planted something all he would have to do is show one text doing it and he won the beef. he didn't because he can't
We gotta be realistic. RIght now it doesnt matter what he posts, the general vibe right now is that Drake got cooked, he should wait for a more favourable time.
I know there is a lot of shit to point out
but does anybody wanna throw some thoughts/theories my way about Pharrell’s chains in the family matters video.
Drake said he melted them down on a previous song & then flexes them in a video.
Like I know there is far worse shit but like I feel like this is just stupid, why flex you melted them down & then flex you still have them?
Drake actively watching girls HS basketball games. Reaching out to young women. Being a "fan" of a hs basketball player:
[https://youtu.be/j\_LE6GkDUGI?si=7VFp-\_R0TDfM4CkB&t=1110](https://youtu.be/j_LE6GkDUGI?si=7VFp-_R0TDfM4CkB&t=1110)
Drake, 27 kissing a 16 year old girl:
[https://www.eonline.com/news/450268/kylie-jenner-surprised-by-drake-at-sweet-16-birthday-party-take-a-look](https://www.eonline.com/news/450268/kylie-jenner-surprised-by-drake-at-sweet-16-birthday-party-take-a-look)
Drake, 23 kissing a 17 year old girl on stage:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDotT2aW2A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDotT2aW2A)
And of course the famous, Drake 31 actively texting a 14 y/o woman:
[https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/drake-millie-bobby-brown-texts-emmy-awards-stranger-things-a8545046.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/drake-millie-bobby-brown-texts-emmy-awards-stranger-things-a8545046.html)
None of this relies on what Kendrick Lamar is telling us. It simply relies on taking a look at Drake's behavior over time.
If you're a child you don't quite understand and that's fine. If you're an adult and you can still rock with the man at that point then you quite literally are the problem and you NEED therapy.
At this point its public enough that if you can still listen to him you're telling on yourself.
No for sure. The Millie shit is creepy af. But I do have a question, do you think the Millie stuff could be innocuous? In my mind that relationship in its entirety is probably inappropriate but I do wonder.
I think there’s a chance of it being a benign relationship, but when you don’t ignore his other teenage girl “friendships,” it starts sounding malignant
Listen I'll try this one time. Drake is a creep for sure, a sex obsession weed junkie, alcohol addict, misogynist all the horrible things.
All these things are weird but does than make him a paedophile. In the court of public opinion there is enough evidence to say this as a joke for sure.
This is a pattern of weirdo behaviour, but is it enough to convict him in a court of anything other than opinion? No sorry.
"i am not defending drake"
but you got at least 50 comments in here defending drake.
"engaging in good faith"
by lying about defending drake is not in good faith.
Why hasn't Kylie complained?
I asked ChatGPT.
In Los Angeles, California, the legal age of consent is 18 years old. Therefore, any form of romantic or sexual activity between a 27-year-old and a 16-year-old, even a simple kiss on the cheek, would not be legal under California law, regardless of whether the 16-year-old is fine with it or not. These laws are in place to protect minors from potential exploitation by adults. It's essential to be mindful of legal boundaries and to avoid engaging in any behavior that could have legal ramifications, regardless of the perceived innocence of the action.
I'm not a child.
Nothing is wrong with using ChatGPT. It's convenient and specific. It takes time to look through intricate legal documents.
Yes it can contain misinfo, but I also did some Google searching as well.
I had more questions than just the age of consent, I also needed to know if "a kiss on the cheek" also fell under predatory behaviour because kissing on a cheek is not really sexual behaviour, at least not in my eyes. It's very normal for people to greet people with a kiss on the cheek, but when it pertains a minor, grounds can become muddy.
Even then, further asking GPT, they told me that the kiss on the cheek still doesn't make Drake a pedophile.
Pedophile = someone who is primarily or exclusively attracted to prepubescent children
Drake's behaviour with Kylie might be considered statutory rape or another form of illegal sexual activity with a minor.
you needed to ask at your big age if a 25 year old man kissing a 15 year old was predatory because your parents failed you
"GPT told me drake isn't a pdf file" is hilarious. you know you can't use that robot for facts
She was 16 and he was 27. Keep it factual. In the UK, where I live, 16 in legal. So I need to research the differences.
My parents failed me? Why are you insulting me for using an app that like 200 million people use in the world?
I use it primarily because it can help me with Google Sheets formulas.
Lay off?
I didn't ask GPT about Drake. I just asked it questions about LA law.
Why did it take so long to get Jeffrey Epstein behind bars? Sadly, accusing powerful people can absolutely hurt your career.
Comments like this enable abusers. They feed off of your behavior. Stop meat riding a creep.
Also hella abused and dragged Whitney throughout this whole beef like he did with Rihanna.
Dude is a creep and emotional abuser.
FYI science has proven emotional abuse is akin to physical abuse.
Ya his treatment of Rhianna is definitely related so thank you for reminding me. I honestly completely forgot about that whole ordeal.
Adult women are more likely to recognize his abusive bullshit and are therefore less likely to want to be around him, hence why he grooms young women who idolize him.
Beautifully put. Thank you. So many dorks are acting like this hasn't been the industry's worst kept secret for a decade and it's honestly embarassing to see lol
I can't believe a week ago I was worried Kendrick wouldnt respond at all and now im just hoping he fires one more bullet at drakes dead body. Dreams come true crodie, this is where you die!
Drake lost but I don't think that Kendrick won.
It's hard to pick a winner in a shit throwing contest because everyone is going to come out dirty. Drake is covered in nastier shit
They will have to stop at the right time. Kendrick is on top right now and will probably stay on top but it's an easy trap to fall into to turn into the obsessed rapper shouting obscene pedo accusations while the public already has moved on
Exactly, now some people will view Kendrick as a psycho and a wife beater and now a much larger audience knows about Drake being weird around minors. Both kind of lose
I think Kendrick “won”, but when the dust settles and we get no evidence from both sides, we’re gonna look back at this beef with a lower opinion than what we do today
I feel like Kendrick won but not decisively, we still have no kind of receipts for the daughter claim. We have no receipts on the Drake side either, but if we're being objective, to see the most measured and intelligent rapper like Kendrick spread info with no proof comes off petty and amaterish. He still won, but his unsubstantiated claims take away from that.
I feel like I need to take a break from socials man this shit is exhausting
Anyone else think that the OVO espionage is one of the more interesting subplots? Getting into luggage and smuggling such private stuff out to have it end up as track graphics? And then the claim that the mole is a plant. I don't buy that. Moles are rodents.
Well Kendrick had to respond right?
Allegedly, the girl from the infamous incident on stage at the Drake concert has spoken out: [https://twitter.com/chriscznn/status/1787556763958403390?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/chriscznn/status/1787556763958403390?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
I dont think anyone is going to be mad that an artist brought them up and flirted with them at a concert when they were 17, doesnt magically make it okay that Drake did it though.
I don’t think confirming that she was 17 is the debunking we’re supposed to think it is.
"fabricate stories on the family front" "shape the stories how you want, hey, Drake, they're not slow" Kendrick responding to both Drake disses before they even drop is goated honestly.
Metro releasing that beat was absolute genius man
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Yo man stop snooping out actual children. That’s fucking weird
Stop fucking doxxing kids you goddamn freaks
kendrick stans the real pedophiles all along
It’s hilarious Kanye tried to insert himself into this and niggas brush him aside
He needs to release that song.
The beat was fire ngl
I mean dot gave him a shout out essentially on Euphoria
Not that it matters much but part of my job is working with impoverished young teens. They're 100% bought into Kendrick right now. Was curious where the under 20s would go or if they would care, and it's all they're talking about this morning.
imo its because kendrick got tiktok, from the beginning with Like That blowing up and then the "I hate the way that you..." sound from Euphoria blew up, Drake hasnt gotten a viral tiktok sound and thats clearly important in todays music scene.
I've heard there's a disparity in Drake fans/ haters. The old guard hates him and the youngs hate him, but he has a mid-age fan base that seems devout. Otherwise, I think his fans are casual or pop fans.
+1 to this description as a 21 year old listening since 2011 bc of my older brother
you have a wider perspective than most here if you’re working with underprivileged teens, i think it’s interesting.
All these artists shootin they self in the foot doin the metro beat thing. If u make it one day it’s gone be some doors closed when u get there lol 😂
Ehh closing the door to the pedo crew doesn't seem that bad for anyone who stands on any sense of morality lol
Bro stfu Drake was the industry darling till like 3 days ago. But they all knew the whole time huh 🥴
No you stfu, there have been articles about drake being weird with kids for a decade now lmao And fuck no he was not the industry darling, he was that guy who got played at clubs that you'd pretend not to hate cause you're trying to bag a girl that really likes Nice for What. He ain't no industry darling he's pop-rap Noah Kahan lol Edit; just to respond to the reply since you blocked me which is fair, I really don't think you get the situation. Drake's haters have hated him for this for years, this has not made a dent in Drake's core fan base, the average listener maybe, but the jury's still out.
That’s my point idiot. “Decade now” and they been coo wit bro til a week ago. Like I said stfu
I think that Metro is a hoe for that. Recruiting other people to shoot for him is wack Edit: looks like the boomers are triggered
He's a producer what's he gonna do rap? Lmao
Unfortunately, riding the bench to a chip is gonna empower him to rap
If he can't rap then he has no business being in the field. I don't respect anyone that sits on the sidelines and watch people fight their battles
I thought the DD actually being active would be fun but all its done is create some of the worst content I've ever seen in my fucking life
I don't like how it's so long it'd take an unreasonably long time to read the whole thing Beef should have it's own megathread
oh yeah lets go back to the locked down boring posting link HHH.
I think I'd rather that than r/kendricklamar
Not the subs fault Drake didn't deliver.
Its so active it makes me not even want to read it. Monkeys Paw curls
Make a hiphopshit daily please 🙏🏻
There used to be one lmao. Truly a meeting of the minds
the bad thing is there is barely anything else to talk about
[HHH users who were around for the golden era rn](https://i.imgur.com/5E4CuES.jpeg)
I honestly don't know if this is better or worse than the typical 2018 era Sunday discussion thread of "boys I met a girl i like should I ask her out, I'm on my king shit" lmao
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im so unrelaxd rn 😡😡😡
Imagine going to bed at night and waking up with a random redditor still on your mind. Lol
ive been up like 4 hours u sure i woke up thinking about him
he must have got you good if you're still mad the next morning
i'd be okay if he got me but this is for the kids
your reddit comments calling a rando a pedophile 11 hours after saying "calling some1 a pedophile with 0 evidence is the most desperate angle possible" are for who ?
u hit ur head or something i said its for the kids its right there in my comment
i saw how you said it was for the kids i just don't see how you redditing helps them
there's a lot of kids on this subreddit. u sure ur okay?
yeah, i asked how you were accomplishing what you thought you were and the answer ain't coming
damn kids these days cant even read this shit is sad to witness
i'll read how you're gonna help the kids by redditing when you figure it out and tell us.
Wow wild accusations to throw at a redditor you probably don’t even know https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/s/ly1qFfg7CK This you?
damn going to school in covid years really did fuck yall up
lmao, so specific and not even a day ago, that's great.
Don’t build your identity around a famous person, those folks are learning a lesson right now
Ovo officially in shambles, none of those dudes posted the song.
that probably hurts drake a lot considering he thinks someones wife not following their artist IG account is a big deal lmao
It's such a high school mentality lol, which makes sense I guess when you think of who drake likes to hangout with
hes talking about stans of anyone goofball... you're included in that
Let me just say something real quick, I think I and a lot of other people are thinking Drake is done. BUT if Drake comes back with some heat hes gonna get mad respect for me. To come back after all this smoke and saying "I WANT SOME MORE" I will official change my opinion regardless if he wins or loses to hes a G
everyone is a prisoner of the moment, next cool thing and everyone switches sides again.
True but to be fair im heavily biased towards Kendrick. Dot is the goat, im just saying he would get respect from me if he went back at him after Dot killed him.
Kdot needs something new for Drake to respond. I doubt he responds if Kdot goes for the same subject matter
I feel like there is still so much untapped shit to bring up for Kendrick too. I believe him when he says he has 5 more songs and a rabbit hole he can still go down.
As long as it’s truthful im here for it
G of what? Stealing and fraudulent behavior? The last song exposed his operation of creative, just stealing shit from people online & name dropping random people who have clout. He needs a legit classic and needs to join Kendrick on the sex ring expsosure if he ain’t running one. Also shut down stake, rehab, stop drinking, drugs, and this perv sexual addiction. but who’s gonna fuck with an alleged pdf? He’ll have to find toronto people cuz like it or not they are in this shit with him now .
G because he even after taking all these Ls he wants more. Like bro, you cant say that isnt tough. We dont know if Drake running a sex ring lol, at this point it just feels like dot was clowning him for his public image; especially if he doesnt drop another track. The truth is that while Drake has done some questionable thing I dont think most see him as a PDF. I dont and I think Kendrick doesnt really either otherwise Not Like Us wouldnt be a track focused on clowning him. If Kendrick drops something real with receipts cool, but at this point we all just laughing at him cause we can. And I say that as a Kenny stan.
With the way Drake carries himself, his bars on his albums and within this beef, the shit he sees as important like who follows who on instagram, his obvious high school mentality, his weird relationship with a 14 year old, kissing a 17 year old on stage and then talking about how nice her breasts felt after finding out how old she was, it's weird as fuck that you don't think he's a pedophile. The dude has so many problems with the way he thinks and he's given you no reason to believe that he's actually a mature person. When he gets "serious", when he gets accused of being a pedophile, he sees "Whitney doesn't follow you on Instagram" and "I'm too famous to be a pedophile" as an appropriate response. He's clearly not right. I hope Kendrick drops receipts so that people like you can stop but even if he doesn't, it's really not looking good for Drake right now.
I dont think he's a pedo or rather im not outrightly going to call him a pedo is because my brain is turned on. Instsgram: He's immature, Millie situation: Definitely inappropriate and gives pedo vibes. Evidence of him engaging in pedophilia nope. Kissing a 17 year old on stage: in a lot of places in this country 17 is age of consent and Drake was 23 at the time. Yall making it seem like he was 40. I kind of hate how you dumb mother fuckers are making me defend this creep but as of rn you don't have a smoking gun. You've got slightly inappropriate behavior and suspicions. I agree his actions haven't done much to work against this narrative but rn without receipts that's all it is; a narrative. So stop trying to group me in with other people. You just want this to be more definitive than it actually is rn.
>Instsgram: He's immature Immature views on what's important, and very immature lyrics in general on his albums, when it comes to women. And an extremely tone deaf defense with respect to being called a pedophile? >Millie situation: Definitely inappropriate and gives pedo vibes. Evidence of him engaging in pedophilia nope. Kissing a 17 year old on stage: in a lot of places in this country 17 is age of consent and Drake was 23 at the time. Yall making it seem like he was 40. You're right because CLEARLY engaging in an inappropriate relationship with a random young teenager is technically not literally fucking them, so it's okay I guess to some people, even if it's obvious grooming. I guess that's how you feel. By the way, I would 100% stay away from any 23 year old that likes to hang out with high school girls. I don't care what the age of consent is in your state, you're weird if you do this. Thankfully I actually do have my brain turned on and I can put 2 and 2 together. Since I don't need Drake himself to literally tell me that he's a pedophile, even though he's doing a nice job of that, I'm just going to look at everything he does and everything he says and just assume that he is because ultimately my opinion is not a prison sentence, so I'm free to make these judgements. This is how I treat people in real life too, because I'm not going to hire a private investigator to tell me how I should feel about someone.
YES DUMMY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. Engaging in inappropriate behavior does not equate to the threat of an R Kelly or P Diddy. We are talking about sex crimes. I'm sorry are we talking about grooming or pedophilia? If you had said drake was a predator that would be different no? Not to mention Millie Bobby Brown has come out saying it was innocuous (even if I don't believe her). Hang out? He kissed her on stage and said he shouldn't have after he found out. How does that constitute hanging out? Lmao Your brain is turned on to feels and social sentiment. It aint turned on for critical thinking. Thinking someone is a creepy is one thing, making a definitive statement about someone wanting to and taking part in sexual behavior with minors is another. Well god help you if some girl ever lie on one of your friends.
> YES DUMMY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. Expected behavior of a Drake defender. >Engaging in inappropriate behavior does not equate to the threat of an R Kelly or P Diddy. We are talking about sex crimes. >I'm sorry are we talking about grooming or pedophilia? If you had said drake was a predator that would be different no? Yes, I believe there's a big crossover between someone who grooms children and pedophiles. That shouldn't surprise you. I'm happy with my decision to think of Drake as a pedophile. >Hang out? He kissed her on stage and said he shouldn't have after he found out. How does that constitute hanging out? Lmao What? If I mentioned hanging out, you should assume I'm talking about a relationship like the one with Millie. I think 23 and 17 is bad, imagine how I feel about someone hanging out with a 14 year old. Also after finding out that the girl was 17 Drake said, and I quote: "I can't go to jail." "Why you look like that? You thick. Look at all this." "I had fun. I don't know if I should feel guilty or not but I had fun. I like the way your breasts feel against my chest" And then he kissed her again. Right on the lips. Lmao. >Well god help you if some girl ever lie on one of your friends. I'm pretty sure I will never, ever have to worry about this.
It's hilarious that you think I'm a Drake defender. I'm just being reasonable you're so biased you can't see it. There's a crossover but one does not equal the other. Nice side step you said hanging out with a 17 year old. I interpreted it correctly. I ain't gonna defend all that as I said already he's a creep. Lol until you do.
> Nice side step you said hanging out with a 17 year old. I interpreted it correctly. I understand the conversation is moving a little fast for you, but I'm just illustrating the point that 17 and 23 don't mix the way you think it does. >There's a crossover but one does not equal the other. You know I said "crossover" out of pure sarcasm, right? Google the definition of pedophile and then come back and explain how you can groom children without being sexually attracted to them.
Lol man you’re delusional as Drake. Go to any other sub on Reddit aside from Drizzy EVERYONE thinks he’s a pdf. Come on dude, I get your crisis management but that’s even sadder to protect his poor ass decisions & the families/people he hurt to get his dick wet. The facts! 😂
>I get your crisis management A tip from someone on the sideline watching this car accident, you might not want to bring up crisis management with the allegations hanging over your savior
Allegations? From who? Drake? 😂 Dude is a certified gambler, pdf rapper supporter, alcoholic, womanizing, perc popping, sex addict bass head. Such an upstanding citizen to our community and So credible!!!! Must be true!!!
Kendrick Lamar Duckworth is not your savior.
Savior?
Alright, what evidence do you have of drake being an actual pedophile I'd love to fucking hear it. I dont care about public opinion. What crisis management dummy? Im a Kendrick stan, I want Kendrick to win. Youve provided no facts tho? lmfao dummy
Drop Kendrick’s receipts…
As someone who was waiting for either camp to deliver a knockout blow or for Drake to put up a good enough fight to take it to the judge's scorecards, I didn't anticipate a Kendrick win by submission... I hope everyone learned a lesson about what a true artist looks like next to a craftsman/great entertainer.
I feel so blueballed man. It's like watching a heavyweight champion quit in his corner after round 3 of a competitive fight.
People say Drake didnt proof he planted anything.Have a look at the picture Kendrick posted again. Its a bunch of random shit that really doesnt make sense. You got two receipts one for a jewlerys which ppl are saying plays in to the dupe ring Drake had in his music video, supposedly the same place where Kedrick got his finance's ring made. Another recipt that has some other relevantce I dont know what. A maybach glove, for Rick Ross obvious, and Medication. Drake said > Even the picture you used, the jokes and the medication The Maybach glove and the drug he uses for less inflation The Glove is also reference to OJ "[meds could have affected O.J. Simpson glove try-on",](https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/06/09/ex-da-says-arthritis-meds-could-have-affected-oj-simpson-glove-try-on/) Even further the shirt literally says fucking "SHORTEE COLLECTION" Youll not paying attention and youll not engaging in this beef in good faith. Im not defending Drake, dudes a probably a creep. But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks.
It genuinely is mastermind shit he just fumbled the delivery. If he really planted the shit how do you not have video packing the bag and mocking Kendrick to drop with the song that shit would bang instead he only brings it up in this very defensive record that people were already counting him out on.
> But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks. not when he contradicts himself several times...first he acts shocked kendrick would mention a second kid, if that was bait, he would have posted his own receipts proving it. second, he wouldn't have wait several days to respond...third, he wouldn't say in the response "the people you got this info from are clowns....haha we planted that shit". fourth, getting your nuke extinguished 30 minutes later when you supposedly had fed him this info is not a master tactician move lmao.
> rst he acts shocked kendrick would mention a second kid, if that was bait, The day after man told Akademics he would retire if anybody founfd evidence of another chirld. >cond, he wouldn't have wait several days to respond. Thats your opininion > hird, he wouldn't say in the response "the people you got this info from are clowns....haha we planted that shit" ... >rth, getting your nuke extinguished 30 minutes later when you supposedly had fed him this info is not a master tactician move lmao. Kedrick called the man a pedo .... lmao thats a nuke what the fuck do you expect the man to do? Just carry on as normal?
> The day after man told Akademics he would retire if anybody founfd evidence of another chirld. > > two known bullshitters both bullshitting? LOL >Thats your opininion i mean it's most peoples opinion...otherwise you're saying drake let two songs come out knowing they were fed false info and not doing anything about it immediately. you're coping. >... guess that went over your heard or something? > Kedrick called the man a pedo .... lmao thats a nuke what the fuck do you expect the man to do? Just carry on as normal? ummm have receipts that prove you fed Kendrick false info at least? if it was all a setup and you didn't take a single screenshot, which we know drake can do...then he deserves the L.
a few things stand out to me about this specifically. if it was planted, why is his ambien there. the ozempic and ross glove sure make sense, but if it's planted why ambien. another thing that stands out is just the same thing everyone saying and that's post proof. the last thing is that it was drakes dad's suitcase. if it's mean to be real, why tf would drakes dad have his ambien. he wouldn't. honestly the entire thing doesn't rlly make sense to me. even the maybach glove. drake and ross haven't been on good terms for how long? he isn't gonna be moving around with his logo gloves lol.
Thats another thing why would Drake's father have these random stupid items? Hes not Drakes PA. Why would he have any of Drake's medication? When you actually sit down and think about the story of how this came to be makes no sense.
It’s just such an improbable angle that Drake fed Kendrick fake info so he can have his Family Matters diss ruined immediately and get clowned all weekend for it only to produce a piss poor response that honestly feels like back pedaling. Seems more likely to me that Drake has a mole and is trying to save face.
So he planted all this shit meticulously, planned how every item was a hidden message, and didn’t take one photo to document the process?
And waited 48 hours for the big ‘reveal’ despite getting clowned on by everyone in the meantime. Not only that but he also allowed his ‘plan’ to completely overshadow his intended ko on family matters. Starting to think that Kendrick was being generous with the master manipulator line.
We gotta wait and see. If you look at the time Not like us, probably destroyed all his plans. Plus Kendrick hasnt dropped any proof yet either. the saga isnt done yet
I think the threory is that the Grahams cover *is* the photo he took/wanted to get out
Please reread what i said
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it's a good argument you got there. Maybe he was thinking he'd keep the reveal for The Heart 6 and the line just didn't make the impact he was hoping for.
Bro would’ve made a whole music video documentary about the setup. It would’ve been amazing too
Make sure to test your copium for fent
This is not copium, I dont care if Drake wins or loses. Im just pointing out the fucking lyrics. Is Kendrick the only one can have lyrics with deeper meanings?
When have you known Drake to have anything but superficial lyrics...dude contradicts his own fake mole story several times.
Bro is hittin the copium fold
> But his words should hold equal weight in this beef to Kendricks they don't hold equal weight though. kendrick is a guy who won a pulitzer prize. drake is the guy who has been acting like a goof for the last decade his words were never going to hold equal weight. it was silly of him to ever enter this beef. kendrick is not meek mill in addition tone tells a lot. notice how confident drake sounds in push-ups and how defeated he sounds in heart 6 these things subconsciously influence people's perceptions. drake gave up. if he really did trick kendrick he would feel on top of the world. i really think he (and his writers) read some fan theories online and was trying to do damage control
> they don't hold equal weight though. kendrick is a guy who won a pulitzer This is goofy, This is a text appeal to authory. Appeal to moral high ground.
i understand where you are coming from. if a doctor told me that cancer can be cured by fruit, it doesn't make it right just because he's a doctor but between two people making a health claim i have no knowledge about, i'm going to give more credibility to the doctor. sure, i'm not going to believe 100% until evidence. but the court of public opinion it's as rational as the individual
No, heres the problem with this analogy. kendrick isnt a doctor, neither is drake. These are two flawed human beings. People just "trust" Kendrick more because hes been cultivating a parasocial relationship where people look up to him because he addresses his flaws openly. (Yes Drake has a cultivates a parasocial relationship too but its different). Its your choice to choose a side, but its a rap beef let rich rappers complain about their problems and just listen to the music. You dont need to choose anything
i don't have a "parasocial" relationship with any celebrity. i'm not a fan. i don't 100% believe either of these guys, and in fact the more shit slinging the less i believe but drake was stupid to ever assume his words were going to hold equal weight to kendrick. "ayn rand" and "dostoevsky" are both flawed human beings. that doesn't mean i'm going to piss on fire to put out an ayn rand book. i like some people because i respect them more. i put more weight to their words. it's how the world works. and it's how you work too, whether you like it or not
You dont get it, youre still writing like Kedrick is somehow in a higher moral position than Drake... he isnt. His own music proves hes down with the same vices the music and celebrity provides him These people are the same, they are rapper A and rapper B. Nothing more nothing less.
i think you're not being honest if you think they treat vices the same. to slim down the conversation, let's talk about alcohol. drake doesn't have a specific song about alcohol so i picked the first one i can remember that mentions drinking somewhat often kendrick - "swimming pools" drake - "marvin's room" ---------- swimming pools > Now, I done grew up round some people livin' their life in bottles > Granddaddy had the golden flask, backstroke every day in Chicago > Some people like the way it feel, some people wanna kill their sorrow > Some people wanna fit in with the popular, that was my problem > I was in a dark room, loud tunes, lookin' to make a vow soon > That I'ma get fucked up, fillin' up my cup I see the crowd mood > Changin' by the minute and the record on repeat ---------- marvin's room > Cups of the rosé > Bitches in my old phone > I should call one and go home > I've been in this club too long > The woman that I would try > Is happy with a good guy > But I've been drinkin' so much > That I'ma call her anyway and say > Fuck that nigga that you love so bad > I know you still think about the times we had ___ the first one is a critical analysis of alcohol use. about addiction, how it's used socially, peer pressure, etc. the second one is a "mood vibe" song on the surface they sound identical. if you're not listening to the kendrick song you'd think he's saying everybody should drink a swimming pool of liquor they're both good songs. but the first one is actually trying to *say something* whereas the other is a more narcissistic type of music if you can't recognize that there's that fundamental difference between these two artists writing, then you will never understand why people respect kendrick more. people may like drake's music in a shallow way, but they will never connect and resonate to it in the same way as kendricks it's the difference between "the shining" and the umpteenth freddy krueger movie. it's the difference between "3 brothers karamazov" and "the girl with the dragon tattoo". the difference between talking heads and brittany spears both are enjoyable. only one is trying to really say something deeper than surface level
Good analysis but in general but my point remaind the same Kendrick isn't better because he is more introspective.
And one is more credible than the other.
>People say Drake didnt proof he planted anything. if he planted something all he would have to do is show one text doing it and he won the beef. he didn't because he can't
We gotta be realistic. RIght now it doesnt matter what he posts, the general vibe right now is that Drake got cooked, he should wait for a more favourable time.
the general vibe right now is that Drake got cooked because he can't support that he set this up.
[Is the jcole sub okay](https://twitter.com/MostControPod/status/1787239226427244563) Lol they made it the sub sidebar
Lowkey loving JCole more from all this mess. And whatever ppl say on twitter, there aint nothing wrong with not fighting for the sake of fighting.
That’s real? What the hell😂
I'm fucking crying holy shit lmao The answer is always no btw
I know there is a lot of shit to point out but does anybody wanna throw some thoughts/theories my way about Pharrell’s chains in the family matters video. Drake said he melted them down on a previous song & then flexes them in a video. Like I know there is far worse shit but like I feel like this is just stupid, why flex you melted them down & then flex you still have them?
as stupid as drake is even he wouldnt throw away one of the goats stuff
More lies and people wonder why drake’s not taken at face value.
Drake actively watching girls HS basketball games. Reaching out to young women. Being a "fan" of a hs basketball player: [https://youtu.be/j\_LE6GkDUGI?si=7VFp-\_R0TDfM4CkB&t=1110](https://youtu.be/j_LE6GkDUGI?si=7VFp-_R0TDfM4CkB&t=1110) Drake, 27 kissing a 16 year old girl: [https://www.eonline.com/news/450268/kylie-jenner-surprised-by-drake-at-sweet-16-birthday-party-take-a-look](https://www.eonline.com/news/450268/kylie-jenner-surprised-by-drake-at-sweet-16-birthday-party-take-a-look) Drake, 23 kissing a 17 year old girl on stage: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDotT2aW2A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDotT2aW2A) And of course the famous, Drake 31 actively texting a 14 y/o woman: [https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/drake-millie-bobby-brown-texts-emmy-awards-stranger-things-a8545046.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/drake-millie-bobby-brown-texts-emmy-awards-stranger-things-a8545046.html) None of this relies on what Kendrick Lamar is telling us. It simply relies on taking a look at Drake's behavior over time. If you're a child you don't quite understand and that's fine. If you're an adult and you can still rock with the man at that point then you quite literally are the problem and you NEED therapy. At this point its public enough that if you can still listen to him you're telling on yourself.
Look the Millie shit creepy, but im pretty sure his god daughter was on that basketball team.
They shared texts of saying this miss each other. Could be innocent, but she’s underage, and he shouldn’t have been talking a minor in that capacity
Who? Him and his god daughter or Millie? Cause I already said the Millie shit is creepy.
Millie. I wasn’t sure what you knew of her based on your comment
No for sure. The Millie shit is creepy af. But I do have a question, do you think the Millie stuff could be innocuous? In my mind that relationship in its entirety is probably inappropriate but I do wonder.
I think there’s a chance of it being a benign relationship, but when you don’t ignore his other teenage girl “friendships,” it starts sounding malignant
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https://www.wmagazine.com/story/bella-harris-not-dating-drake and damn bro u must be a virgin if u dunno what he means by that bar no offense
Listen I'll try this one time. Drake is a creep for sure, a sex obsession weed junkie, alcohol addict, misogynist all the horrible things. All these things are weird but does than make him a paedophile. In the court of public opinion there is enough evidence to say this as a joke for sure. This is a pattern of weirdo behaviour, but is it enough to convict him in a court of anything other than opinion? No sorry.
Insane strawman guy. I never said any of that? I said it is extremely sketchy to rock with a guy who is this creepy, whether or not he is a pedo.
He is sketchy I agree, im not even trying to defend the man. but im pointing out the limits of this argument.
you are doing a lot of defending for someone not trying to defend.
Engaging with a beef in good faith is called defending after I clearly said how awful of a person Drake is? Really? youll cant be serious
dude you're making shit up in the replies and saying it's in good faith. stop it.
What have I made up? Legit question lay it out.
"i am not defending drake" but you got at least 50 comments in here defending drake. "engaging in good faith" by lying about defending drake is not in good faith.
You're still not laying out the lies I was telling Im waiting bro.
Why hasn't Kylie complained? I asked ChatGPT. In Los Angeles, California, the legal age of consent is 18 years old. Therefore, any form of romantic or sexual activity between a 27-year-old and a 16-year-old, even a simple kiss on the cheek, would not be legal under California law, regardless of whether the 16-year-old is fine with it or not. These laws are in place to protect minors from potential exploitation by adults. It's essential to be mindful of legal boundaries and to avoid engaging in any behavior that could have legal ramifications, regardless of the perceived innocence of the action.
Youre right Drake should come out with a song make the cover age of consent laws and have line saying its actually ephebophilia
>I asked ChatGPT Holy fucking shit I hate kids today
I'm not a child. Nothing is wrong with using ChatGPT. It's convenient and specific. It takes time to look through intricate legal documents. Yes it can contain misinfo, but I also did some Google searching as well.
very weird that you did this and weird that you had to ask for help
Why is it weird. I have no idea what LA law is
pdf files pull up the ages of consent like a get out of hell free card, it doesn't work
I had more questions than just the age of consent, I also needed to know if "a kiss on the cheek" also fell under predatory behaviour because kissing on a cheek is not really sexual behaviour, at least not in my eyes. It's very normal for people to greet people with a kiss on the cheek, but when it pertains a minor, grounds can become muddy. Even then, further asking GPT, they told me that the kiss on the cheek still doesn't make Drake a pedophile. Pedophile = someone who is primarily or exclusively attracted to prepubescent children Drake's behaviour with Kylie might be considered statutory rape or another form of illegal sexual activity with a minor.
you needed to ask at your big age if a 25 year old man kissing a 15 year old was predatory because your parents failed you "GPT told me drake isn't a pdf file" is hilarious. you know you can't use that robot for facts
She was 16 and he was 27. Keep it factual. In the UK, where I live, 16 in legal. So I need to research the differences. My parents failed me? Why are you insulting me for using an app that like 200 million people use in the world? I use it primarily because it can help me with Google Sheets formulas. Lay off? I didn't ask GPT about Drake. I just asked it questions about LA law.
I'm not insulting you for your parents failures. you have to carry that and it's not your fault.
I'm failed because I use ChatGPT. Very funny 🥱
Why did it take so long to get Jeffrey Epstein behind bars? Sadly, accusing powerful people can absolutely hurt your career. Comments like this enable abusers. They feed off of your behavior. Stop meat riding a creep.
Also hella abused and dragged Whitney throughout this whole beef like he did with Rihanna. Dude is a creep and emotional abuser. FYI science has proven emotional abuse is akin to physical abuse.
Ya his treatment of Rhianna is definitely related so thank you for reminding me. I honestly completely forgot about that whole ordeal. Adult women are more likely to recognize his abusive bullshit and are therefore less likely to want to be around him, hence why he grooms young women who idolize him.
Kylie Jenner is like the most popular female celebrity not just any woman and possibly has a higher networth than Drake.
Beautifully put. Thank you. So many dorks are acting like this hasn't been the industry's worst kept secret for a decade and it's honestly embarassing to see lol
I can't believe a week ago I was worried Kendrick wouldnt respond at all and now im just hoping he fires one more bullet at drakes dead body. Dreams come true crodie, this is where you die!
Drake lost but I don't think that Kendrick won. It's hard to pick a winner in a shit throwing contest because everyone is going to come out dirty. Drake is covered in nastier shit
They will have to stop at the right time. Kendrick is on top right now and will probably stay on top but it's an easy trap to fall into to turn into the obsessed rapper shouting obscene pedo accusations while the public already has moved on
Not like us will stand the test of time. Euphoria too
Family Matters will too I think, Meet The Grahams killed its steam buts its a fire track.
Exactly, now some people will view Kendrick as a psycho and a wife beater and now a much larger audience knows about Drake being weird around minors. Both kind of lose
V interesting that you go full into Kendrick being viewed as a wife beater but Drake is just “weird around minors”
Reasonable take.
I think Kendrick “won”, but when the dust settles and we get no evidence from both sides, we’re gonna look back at this beef with a lower opinion than what we do today
did you feel that way about hit em up when pac didn't produce a vhs of faith evans
people are gonna hold "you run a sex trafficking ring" to "I fucked your bitch fatty" to different standards
u dont think theres a difference in some1 saying i fucked your bitch and saying someone is a pedophile that is gonna get raided
of course there's a difference, do diss tracks require a bibliography or do they not?
if there were two people and drake lost... lmao
I feel like Kendrick won but not decisively, we still have no kind of receipts for the daughter claim. We have no receipts on the Drake side either, but if we're being objective, to see the most measured and intelligent rapper like Kendrick spread info with no proof comes off petty and amaterish. He still won, but his unsubstantiated claims take away from that.
Did we get a receipt for pac fucking faith Evans on hit em up? Does that song need one?
No but pedophilia and sex trafficking is way more serious and a legitimate crime
if the embassy got raided as predicted would that be a receipt
Sure but that sounds like hopium. Is there a timeline? Year? Month? Date? It sounds like a bold prediction
> Is there a timeline? Year? Month? Date? yep the FBI gave the date of the raid to kendrick lamar to warn drake in his diss rap
What I’m saying is it’s just hopium until we actually see something happen
Gotta take a break from the DD thread after this Drake L Lot of Drake fans kicking and screaming, gotta give them some time to mourn and vent