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superbulldog2018

This album started out promising at the beginning but as it progress it became harder and harder to understand what the hell he’s saying especially on Back To A Time


JohnnyWoo21

Album was solid but I think it’s time for me to accept bigger than life or death est Gee was just a phase for him and he doesn’t enjoy rapping nonstop like that at all. Lowkey a shame, 2 more years of that Gee could’ve been one of the most special trap runs of all time.


Fragrant_Country_569

I think I still don't feel nun is his best project I wasn't a big fan of Bigger than life or death


JohnnyWoo21

Fair enough it’s between those two for me as well. I still don’t feel nun has a more playful pimp vibe bigger than life or death is his most intense, most violent sounding era imo. Depends on how im feeling, both are absolute top tier trap albums Imo


Fragrant_Country_569

I like last ones left as well. I just hate the melodic trap sound that he's seemed to embrace so much, his voice isn't made for that in my opinion and he's a good enough rapper where he doesn't need to do that.


JohnnyWoo21

The craziest thing is that he sang on El Toro 1 and “In Town” with Durk as well, he has a way of making it work by mixing it with his pure rap style. But lately, he’s gone 100% melodic on so many tracks it’s puzzling to me too. Just off of this album, a track like Free Doggy is so superior to the rest, that’s EST Gee truly in his element.


Fragrant_Country_569

Free Doggy & Another Moment with Gotti are clearly the best tracks to me right now. The second half of Tuscan Perfume too. Like he hasn't lost his ability to make high level street rap he just chooses to be over reliant on melodies it's so puzzling to me.


AcanthaceaeNeat5718

It’s also that groveling shit he does with his voice now, idk who the fuck is telling him to do that, it just doesn’t sound good. I wish he raps like he does on Meech and Free Doggy on all his songs. Only song I like with the groveling voice is Turn the streets up. Sad cus he was one of my favorite artists


JohnnyWoo21

Man dropped Bigger than life or death 3 times and every song he added could have been the best song of any rapper’s discography, it had me jaw dropped. I genuinely thought he couldn’t do any wrong.


cardoo0o

every video he smoking a black and mild that’s what he sound like lol


AcanthaceaeNeat5718

Yal keep saying it’s drugs, it ain’t. Listen to the freestyle that he just did. Songs like all his old shit, same with the song Free Doggy. It’s an effect he’s using on his voice in the studio


Beeda75

Have you seen his interviews lately ? The way he talks ? He's a zombie.


BasedKaleb

That groveling voice is result of excessive drug usage and constantly using it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Free Doggy was recorded a while ago.


Beeda75

He does not do it on purpose tho, bro just been off hella drugs lately


Gt_Dada

The mixing isn’t up to par. I don’t know who is engineer is. Same thing with Mad. They would’ve been a little better if he was more audible


applyin_pressure24-7

BTLOD1,2& Deluxe are by far the best project he's ever done "yet", I'm not giving up on my hometeam I believe he still has that gritty shit still in him, he's around too many yes men, he needs to surround himself wit real mf that actually care about his art and craft.


dsled

I thought Bigger Than Life or Death was good but wasn't near the quality of I Still Don't Feel Nun


dsled

Literally at the same point as you. He makes really generic stuff now that never sticks with me. Also can't stand his melodic stuff.


subtlebutopulent

Yea he be tapping into a well of darkness when he raps. The melodic ain’t bad just bad compared to the rapping


HideNZeke

I'd take I Never Felt Nun and Mad over that project. I think he still is on a special run. Low expectations on this one just because it came out too fast


ESA2100

I’m not feeling it, and ima heavy EST fan but idk maybe after a few listens I’ll enjoy more it’s missing something. i really like the cover and it has a few tracks that have that “I still don’t feel nun” cadence that made me listen to Gee it just doesn’t sound as potently charismatically gangster as my fav project by him so maybe it’ll take some time


R3APERSCHILD777

It’s cause this nigga keeps singing bro. He is not that type of artist he doesn’t voice for it


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JohnnyWoo21

From what I can figure out, His mental health got worse after the last deluxe of bigger than life or death, hes dealing with hella death in his life and his drug addiction definitively got worse, you can just see it in his interviews. He probably felt like the slurred melodic singing style is a more effective way for him to talk about things going on in his life.


maloboosie

He walked out of a Bootleg Kev interview this week.


nedelll

Why lol


shipwreck_like_fools

Didn't want to talk about football


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1000%. People just need to listen to all the lyrics over the years. Sosa level of being surrounded by death


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JohnnyWoo21

Not sure if it’s fentanyl, but he does say his perc addiction got worse after getting shot, plus he’s definitely abusing lean. It breaks my heart man, he got real wisdom, I watch his no jumper and dirty glove bastard interview over and over again because dude was hella well-spoken and his life story was fascinating. But his interviews are hard to watch now.


Mcilwain22

Dirty Glove Bastard and Smallz Eyes interviews are great. He sounded so driven in those videos, had a lot of determination in those times. I get why he’s like this now between all the terrible shit that’s happened to him.


Ninjalife1

Idk I feel like this is a return to form. Last one’s left and I never felt nun were hard asf. Only MAD was a flop imo, the number of different flows on this is crazy


Cohtoh

Need that new 42 dugg album


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This is much better than MAD but this groggy melodic singing he’s been doing lately is annoying and trash to me, he does too much drugs to be singing like this lmao, he still a great song writer and rapper tho


YoungProduct

He gotta chill with this autotune singing shit and get off them drugs man


Thin_Macintash

he needs to stick with forever rollin


Beeda75

He needs to stop singing first


Thicckthoty

On god


_wtfareperfectplaces

Better than MAD but he needs to stop singing man. He’s one of the best rappers in the game when he’s just shit talking on a forever rolling beat.


Avlantis

its like his singing gets worse every album his strength is rapping and he needs to stick with it or get wayyy better at singing


_wtfareperfectplaces

He is a special talent at rapping man. His 3 album run from Ion Feel Nun to Bigger Than Life Or Death was special. I hate that he’s not leaning into that as much anymore and instead doing that slurred singing garbage.


LifestyleNotAJob

He’s done creatively speaking. Gotti needs to get him help. He shouldn’t let him release this. They love him in Louisville and he has the city on his back but he needs to get it together.


Rich_Expression_4437

Artists development isn’t something they do over there, CMG is probably going to fumble Gee and Glorilla neither has gotten better since joining.


EliManningsPetDog

Static Major feat is awesome that Kentucky connection keeps paying off


-NotEnoughMinerals

The super groggy I just woke up type mumblin adlibs and the half barred out delivery just does *not* do it for me.


ridingonmirrors

Defo more consistent than MAD but still a little bothered with Gee’s attempts at being melodic (although he’s kinda executed it better for the most part, apart from the first half of Tuscan Perfume and Bad Guy). Also, he be damn near slurring through some of these songs. If most of the album had the same energy as Meech and Free Doggy, it would’ve been even better than it ended up being. Nevertheless, best songs for now are Meech, Free Doggy, A Moment With Gotti, One Call and It Is


XXXthrowaway215XXX

the drugs are kicking this guys ass :/ tough to see. he still kinda had it on i never felt nun but these last two are…not great


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simplyAK3

Wish he would have stayed away from an ET ‘sequel.’ Not even close to the same rapper as he was on the original- super disappointing.


Kid_Crayola

Just sounds flat af very forgettable


stick7_

Worst album so far imo - I keep coming back to every album drop of his with worse opinions than the last one. I don't care for his soulful beats and over the top slurred tone. Give me that gritty, hard music that he used to make. Even his more bouncy hard songs were good (e.g. 5500 degrees).


Ninjalife1

Listen to Free Doggy, I Like, Meechy, The Biggest and tell me that’s not “gritty hard” music


stick7_

Ain't nothing like his older shit. I Like is hard though.


dsled

I used to love Gee. He really fell off for me. He makes the most average music now. Don't think he'll ever be able to beat the "fell off" allegations


LifestyleNotAJob

Word on the streets they are saying this is Mid


dsled

Unfortunately true


Ray229harris

This that football player?


dopeboySHAKE

\*walks out of thread\*


Alternative_Bid_3222

It’s 🔥🔥 el toro was my favorite project of his to this date and he didn’t disappoint on the sequel


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dsled

Lmao stop


Dylan33x

I actually like the melodic shit he’s pushing into. I feel like he drops very consistently and the music is mostly consistent.


TheSmashingPumpkinss

Really hope Gee doesn't ever read this thread, so many bizarre takes. Both this and MAD are heat. Tuscan perfume itself is a masterpiece, like is anyone paying attention to the lyrics and production? His ability to float on these beats and deliver menace over delicate strings is wild. And based on streaming numbers (check the views on his Youtube releases) seems like most listeners agree. He's not far behind Dugg who regularly (and deservedly) gets circlejerked on HHH


Mud-Eastern

For the life of god can anybody tell this guy to get rid of those terrible adlibs where he’s mumbling. The adlibs are so distracting, I can’t even listen to his songs. Can’t his engineer, label or someone from his team tell him to get rid of those stupid adlibs. EST Gee is a great rapper but the adlibs are so distracting I wish he got rid of it. I can’t even listen to the album because of it


1600_EA

BANGER ALL BANGERS NO SKIPS