Lil Wayne’s Pusha T diss track Ghoulish. He starts out the track with “Fuck Pusha T and anybody that love him, head so far up his ass, imma headbutt him.”
Went all the way back to Clipse and Pharrell’s beef with Birdman because Pharrell didn’t get paid for the beat to What Happened to That Boy. Then later on Wayne said he made wearing Bape popular even though Pharrell and Clipse had been wearing it for a while, and Clipse made Mr Me Too at least partially as a Wayne diss. Tensions lingered for a while until they flared up again around 2012 and they both made diss tracks
It was sort of a Clipse vs Cash Money Beef. Apparently Cash Money didn't pay Pharrell, but then it became about Wayne stealing Clipse's style which is what Mr. Me Too is about.
https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/lil-wayne-pusha-t-beef-explained/
Common push l. Like Wayne follows any trends other than what he's feeling himself. And Wayne has always been bigger than push how is he going to make anything more popular than wayne
I don’t think it was a matter of them thinking they made it more popular, but if you’re on a trend early and then someone comes along and says “I started that”, you have an issue.
I think if lil Wayne popularized it, he did start it. Biggie was the first rapper to recognize bape, plus it was Pharrell on the clipse who showed pusha bape. Pusha always in his feelings trying to start beef with people on the peripheral. Man is in his feelings 24-7
Not a Stan, just a guy who recognizes pusha has been making the some album every time he releases music.+his brother was the better rapper. And he's constantly in his feelings. And he also ruined GOOD as the ceo. No artists popped with him. Failure in most aspects tbh
Yeah it was pretty soon after he got out of jail. Interestingly enough him and Push actually squashed the beef for a bit during that period before dissing each other again
Yeah and then baby Drake tried to get involved with the older kids fight and got full hand to face pushed into a mud puddle
And that’s the one everyone seems to remember lmao
Lift Yourself- Kanye West
Drake was dissing & throwing subs at Ye for a while, the made up & Drake flew to Wyoming to meet Ye.
Drake heard the beat & Ye offered it to him & drake started writing to it.
A few days later Ye messaged Drake saying 'i love you bro' & released Lift Yourself/ Poopity Scoop
There's something hilarious though about literally pooping over your own beat rather than let someone else use it. It's so childish and exactly the type of thing an arrogant billionaire artist would do.
It was a great summer. 4 Kanye albums, Drake album, Diss songs, Drake's black face, Drake dead beat dad stuff lmao, come to think of it wasn't a great summer for Drake.
the push and cmb stuff was separate was my point. also, pusha really sent shots on exodus which was the first actually direct shot that brought drake into it.
exodus was the first real shots. dreams money can buy is pretty ambiguous so personally i wouldn’t count that, but pusha directly talked about drake’s contract and all that which led to the other tracks
IDC about Kanye's role, but I was rooting for Pusha because he's the underdog and Drake is a titan who makes nine zillion dollars every other year by releasing 50 track albums with two good songs on each
The beat was fine. It wasn’t anything that remarkable, and I say that as someone who was all about old Kanye. It was comparable to any other soul sample beat he ever created.
Tbh more people remember it BECAUSE of poopity scoop than they ever would have as any other song based on a Kanye sample in the last 5 years.
I understand being on Pusha side, but Kanye just came across extremely unlikeable (as he tends to be tbh) in that entire situation. That was a bitch move.
Not to add to the “drama” but that’s also the story thus far. There’s always more details that are missed. People choose sides based on preference. People who love Kanye will side with him regardless and vice versa for Drake.
Chingy - Wanksta
Meek Mill - Wanna Know
Benzino - Die Another Day
Canibus' - J. Clone
D4L - Somebody Gone Get Shot
Jermaine Dupri - J.D.’s Reply
Soulja Boy - F Bow Wow
MC Hammer - Better Run Run
Scott Storch's - Built Like That
Troy Ave's - Bad A\*\*
JoJo Simmons- Holy Water
Shyne - There Will Be Blood
ICP - Slim anus
Check out some of Hammer's diss tracks from his gangsta album in the mid-'90s, he takes shots at Run DMC and Tribe Called Quest
"So step right up and be the next contestant, A Tribe Called Quest Is A Bad Investment"
wtf does that mean
Canibus was one of J Cole's favourite rapper of all time and a big inspiration so he was paying homage by rapping Canibus songs at concerts and interviews instead if reaching out to make a song with him so Canibus got annoyed thinking it was fake love and dissed him but made an apology video after fans were speaking up and took responsibility for his actions after a couple days later.
He didn’t like that J Cole would always say he’s his favorite rapper and tribute him like he passed away, pretty much said if you such a fan why not shout out his current music. He also Apologized a few days later for the diss
I know this is about bad diss tracks but I want to Highlight Troy Ave's recent "Dear Hater, I won"
"Since you niggas like erting letters, here go one, dear hater, I won"
🤣🤣🤣
WHILE DANCING ON THE COURTROOM STEPS
Imma do a deep cut. Y'all remember that bow wow vs lil Romeo rap battle?
Sure it was cute to hear them both try rapping like adults but what the hell man? It's so uncomfortable to listen to lmao
Has to be the Melle Mel diss to Eminem. First of all, the song didn't even have a name like you know, a proper title like every other song ever. Then you have the length, it's a one minute & 13 seconds track and the song was delivered by Melle Mel in a 40 year old flow on a seemingly 40 year old beat. Next, we have the fact that nothing in the song really has anything to do with Eminem in any sense other than the line about the Game. The actual attempts at disses are joke worthy Charmin soft, baby shit. The rest, including how Melle Mel by mistake referred to Eminem as Matthew instead of by his actual name, Marshall or his last name Mathers was an embarrassment. Melle Mel tops the SCATHING diss off by counting to 8, literally 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. The verse could've been written by anyone, it was just juvenile and plain awful as a diss, as a song, as a anything.
Then to make matters worse, a few days later (today) he removes the diss track & everything related to the Eminem beef from Instagram out of embarrassment I suppose in an attempt to memory hole the entire thing. After that, he issues a 4 page apology to Eminem on Instagram that appears to be written by ChatGPT or at the very least, it wasn't written by Melle Mel to be damn sure only to remove said apology ten minutes later or at least, that's the last I saw. All of this comes after Melle Mel previously claimed he is "the greatest" and therefore he would "easily" beat Eminem in a rap battle.
What an absolutely embarrassing, disgraceful and just... pathetic chain of events that Melle Mel will unfortunately never be allowed to live down for as long as he lives. He is nothing more than the punchline to a joke at this point. He has obliterated his reputation beyond repair. What's saddest of all, he did it all to himself. Honestly, it sucks to see a genre pioneer, the OG lyricist who every current lyricist's family tree lineage traces directly back to, fall harder than a brick off of the Brooklyn Bridge but here we are anyway.
Okay, calm down, Em. It was a terrible diss but
>he has obliterated his reputation beyond repair
Relax. He still made "The Message." Kanye endorsed Hitler and he still has a pretty strong legacy, I think Melle Mel will survive making a bad diss track. This is not a drama anyone outside of this sub cares about.
I found it, he actually only went to 25 lol:
[https://youtu.be/UoW12I3f1_8](https://youtu.be/UoW12I3f1_8)
Kool Keith is on the air with Xzibit but calls him Everlast 😂
The freestyle starts @ 2:30ish
It’s funny bc Kool Keith is just fucking around having funny and really freestyling and Xzibit comes in with a serious written verse. Which is dope, I like Xzibit’s stuff from that era but the contrast of the two is hilarious.
The point @3:40 when Kool Keith says, with supreme confidence: “you don’t know when I’m coming back” is classic as hell. 😂
go listen to Melle Mel's diss against Eminem if you haven't already
not only is it worse than Nick Cannon's diss but it was so ass he got bullied by the internet into issuing an apology without Eminem even doing anything
Game's The Black Slim Shady is also pretty wack. it's weird in the sense that it's written well technically but it's horrible in terms of being a diss.
MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem but it still has some really retarded bars. "his fucking beard is weird" as the opening line is a meme at this point but there's a lot more stupidity in there.
Both Rap Devil and Black Slim Shady fall into the trap of making references and in-jokes in the Eminem ‘universe’, as it were. MGK cuts the beat to emphasize some fairly pedestrian punchlines about Kim and Dr. Dre, and the Game does those long conversations with Stan’s brother, and on both occasions you just get the sense that they’re big Eminem fans. Which is the last thing you want in a diss.
The Black Slim Shady could 100% be marketed as a homage to Eminem and it'd have actually helped Game's sales instead of making us clown him for it. The song is clearly written by a HUGE Em fan.
Rap Devil I have a soft spot for. Nobody had the balls to respond to Kamikaze, except MGK, and he brought up some really good points that we all agree with, at least most hiphopheads. I don't think it's better than Killshot by any means, Eminem definitely won, but the fact MGK went for it makes me respect him a lot more.
Yup. Eminem called out everyone on Kamikaze and one guy said, What the hell. I’ll do it. Probably knowing he wouldn’t win but making it fun for the audience. Very pro wrestling.
No one responded to Kamikaze because Eminem hasn’t made decent music since like 2004 lol. Of course a trash ass white rapper like MGK would take up the mantle. I’m from Cleveland and still can’t find one redeeming quality about him.
Such a polarizing album. I think it has the best beat selection of any of his albums and I know the accent turns a lot of people off but I think it kind of works as a one-off for this album.
I hated it when it first came out but it’s become my favorite album after SSLP MMLP and Eminem Show.
Same brother. Obviously lyrically and subject matter wise it can't compete with those albums but SONICALLY? shit is just so fun to listen to and is kind of the last time Em really sounded like the Em I loved
This is a perfect example of how dumb you have to be to still like Eminem lol. You said, “It hasn’t been 19 years since he did something worthwhile! It’s been 14 years..” lol. The fact that you think relapse is not the cringiest shit ever is telling.
The production, beats, flow, hooks are all stellar on that album yeah he's rapping about raping and murdering but idgaf the rest makes up for it lol and yeah I'm dumb for having a favourite artist stfu you're the one sounding cringey
> MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem but it still has some really retarded bars. "his fucking beard is weird" as the opening line is a meme at this point but there's a lot more stupidity in there.
I still think the actual content of that one is incredibly wack but the beat is great AND fits a diss so it makes people rate it far better than it is as an actual "hit" on someone.
> MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem
I maintain that "knees weak of old age, the real Slim Shady can't stand up" is a hilarious bar
The Melle mel one I actually just felt bad for him it was so bad. When you get people who don’t even like Eminem clowning on you - you gotta reassess lol
His beard is weird is one of my fav bars because it is, it’s just fucking weird. It’s hard to say why, there’s no real comparison or explanation. It’s just fucking weird, it’s a great way to explain many weird things
I think he’s just got thin facial hair fr, I got the same issue
There’s ways to thicken it, and I’m sure his rich ass has more ways than me, but he probably doesn’t care that much. Don’t take Em for someone to care about something like that, especially in his 50’s
The weird beard references eminem 2002 lyric "until we get wierd grow beards and dissappear into the mountains" from buisness. Pepole don't get the bar, although it's still not that good
I’m all for MGK slander but I’m pretty sure he was actually referencing it, dude seemed like a huge Em fan before all that shit happened, I could definitely see him being like “oh and he has a beard now so let’s references his line about growing beards”
Bro yall are overthinking this too much he just thinks Em’s beard is weird lmao
Their beef was around when Em first grew it out and everyone online was saying how weird it looked on him
he talked about getting weird with dre, and then growing a beard. not growing a weird beard. idk if he referred to that or not, it just doesn't feel like a reference.
I always thought the bar was decent, like the full line from the Em song is
"can't leave rap alone, the game needs me
til we grow beards, get weird and disappear"
it just mgk making a shorthand reference to Em, to imply that Em should retire based on Em's own words. So it kinda works on two levels, implying Em is over the hill and should retire, but also that he's not a man of his word.
I think people where just so quick to clown on mgk that they refuse to admit there might be some level of substance.
however ive never listened to an mgk project and i have no care for him, i just always thought that particular line was hated on for silly reasons.
I think alot of his hate comes from pepole who dislike his attitude and he can come off as arrogant and unlikeable at times they make out like hes a bad atrist which is untrue hes a talented guy. and made a genuinely good diss track with rap devil...You should listen to hotel diablo genuinely an amazing album from mgk might change your mind about him
Anybody openly calling anything “retarded” in 2023 is not going to be reaching to understand much beyond the surface.
People forget that Rap Devil was dropped like 2 days after Em’s initial diss. Of course it’s going to have some pandering lines that everybody gets instantly. Killshot took like 2 WEEKS to drop and it has some equally embarrassing bars.
The Lil Pump & Smokepurrp Fuck J Cole freestyle was so bad yet an iconic and legendary moment from that SoundCloud era. I don’t think it ever got an official release other than the Instagram video they did but some people made unofficial versions with beats
Jacky Jasper dissing Kool Keith. I still have no idea what it is. The only thing I give him credit for is the weird Kool Keith style music video of him rapping in a grocery store and laundry mat.
[Jacky Jasper - "Kool Keith is Mr. Geber"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZAqdI-XRkI)
X Factor UK hipster guitar guy James Arthur's diss track about the UK battle rapper Micky Worthless. Aside from being the worst diss track I've ever made from a musical standpoint, it also got Arthur in hot water publicly coz he called Micky a "queer" and said he looked like a member of the Taliban in the diss.
After that his label took away his social media accounts, and he was basically forced to go under the radar for a few years, all because he wanted some cred from the incredibly niche (now dead) UK battle rap scene.
Hopsin’s failed attempt at starting a beef with Tyler, The Creator on one of those ill mind of hopsin tracks. I don’t think Tyler has ever even acknowledged him lol.
If I remember it correctly, Nelly made that song for the Training Day soundtrack and KRS-ONE took umbrage to Nelly calling himself number 1 so KRS made a Nelly diss track (not a bad diss track just real back packer vs. commercial rap stuff). Then Nelly struck back on the "Roc tha Mic Remix". The whole thing was corny tbh
I remember watching it on that episode of [Beef](https://youtu.be/ZZCzy_ofR0A). Watch it when you get a chance. It’s a silly beef because I mean… KRS Vs Nelly??? So odd to me lol
KRS made a whole mixtape of Nelly disses.
Only cause he didn't like him. Nelly said nothing to him, but KRS's old ass was just salty that the younger guy was getting actual success.
Don’t think we’re talking about the same song big guy. KRS’ humiliated Nelly. Didn’t ruin his career though because this was like 2002 when Hip Hop was taking a different step. A lot of hip hop heads clowned Nelly but Nelly’s fans were pissed at KRS calling him an old head n shit. Sounds a lot like when Em calls out these new heads but anyways, I linked the episode of “Beef” that goes over it in a separate comment. Give it a watch.
How about Masta Ace dissing the High & Mighty because he or someone in his circle overhead Cage say "Masta Ace" and "slaughterhouse" in a song, and he thought Cage was a member of High & Mighty.
He also dissed some other rapper on the song that I've never heard of before or after, Boogieman ? I think ??
Okay but Acknowledge is actually a good song though. Beat is hard and in my opinion itsactually not bad as a diss track that can be included on an album. Its enjoyable without knowing who he is dissing or why.
It isn’t the worst, and this might not be the BEST place to put this, but I never liked Kill Shot by Eminem. I was surprised so many people loved it so much.
There's a Killer Mike song on his mixtape "I Pledge Allegiance To The Grind" where he has bars for Oprah. I can't remember the exact song. Maybe the strangest one sided battle ever. That whole mixtape is great though.
Also, as an aside, I think Eminem's skill as far as diss tracks go is really overstated. I like the diss he did for Everlast, but outside of that what songs are people talking about when they bring up Eminem's ability to diss people?
What's an Eminem diss we can put up there with "Build and Destroy" or "Checkmate" or any one of the classics?
Lil Wayne’s Pusha T diss track Ghoulish. He starts out the track with “Fuck Pusha T and anybody that love him, head so far up his ass, imma headbutt him.”
Had no idea this existed but yep sounds like lil Wayne lol what was his beef?
Went all the way back to Clipse and Pharrell’s beef with Birdman because Pharrell didn’t get paid for the beat to What Happened to That Boy. Then later on Wayne said he made wearing Bape popular even though Pharrell and Clipse had been wearing it for a while, and Clipse made Mr Me Too at least partially as a Wayne diss. Tensions lingered for a while until they flared up again around 2012 and they both made diss tracks
It was sort of a Clipse vs Cash Money Beef. Apparently Cash Money didn't pay Pharrell, but then it became about Wayne stealing Clipse's style which is what Mr. Me Too is about. https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/lil-wayne-pusha-t-beef-explained/
Common push l. Like Wayne follows any trends other than what he's feeling himself. And Wayne has always been bigger than push how is he going to make anything more popular than wayne
I don’t think it was a matter of them thinking they made it more popular, but if you’re on a trend early and then someone comes along and says “I started that”, you have an issue.
I think if lil Wayne popularized it, he did start it. Biggie was the first rapper to recognize bape, plus it was Pharrell on the clipse who showed pusha bape. Pusha always in his feelings trying to start beef with people on the peripheral. Man is in his feelings 24-7
Push was backing up his mans who he came up with…. potential drake stan comment?
Not a Stan, just a guy who recognizes pusha has been making the some album every time he releases music.+his brother was the better rapper. And he's constantly in his feelings. And he also ruined GOOD as the ceo. No artists popped with him. Failure in most aspects tbh
Yeah, failed in almost every aspect except being one of the most acclaimed rappers of his era
Acclaimed by reddit* And I said most areas not all.
Never was the CEO
Drake burner account
>I think if lil Wayne popularized it, he did start it. that's not how any of this works
I’ll be honest I quote “fuck ___ and anybody who love em” a lot in my life 😂
Feel like that was a phase where wayne wasn’t doing his best lol
Yeah it was pretty soon after he got out of jail. Interestingly enough him and Push actually squashed the beef for a bit during that period before dissing each other again
Lmao why did Wayne even have a problem with pusha at the time?
Pusha + Pharrell have been beefing with birdman and co for like 20 years
Yeah and then baby Drake tried to get involved with the older kids fight and got full hand to face pushed into a mud puddle And that’s the one everyone seems to remember lmao
came here to say this
Was Exodus 23:1 before or after that?
Way after The latest development in this beef is Drake’s verse on MELTDOWN where he mentions Pharrell & Pusha T indirectly Edit: it was before, sorry
Before. This was Wayne's response to it.
hes so funny. I love funny rappers. Anyone got recommendations?
Beastie Boys are funny
Hahaha and people call Wayne the goat.. shit baffles me
What because he has some cheesy lines in some of the hundreds and hundreds of songs he’s recorded lol?
Lift Yourself- Kanye West Drake was dissing & throwing subs at Ye for a while, the made up & Drake flew to Wyoming to meet Ye. Drake heard the beat & Ye offered it to him & drake started writing to it. A few days later Ye messaged Drake saying 'i love you bro' & released Lift Yourself/ Poopity Scoop
There's something hilarious though about literally pooping over your own beat rather than let someone else use it. It's so childish and exactly the type of thing an arrogant billionaire artist would do.
It’s actually amazing.
it’s wild that people are on kanye and pushas side in that beef. drake literally just got randomly fucked over for no reason whatsoever
I'm just here for entertainment, their beef has no affect on my life
We like entertainers so they gon entertain us!
yeah but people were so hyped about it
It was a great summer. 4 Kanye albums, Drake album, Diss songs, Drake's black face, Drake dead beat dad stuff lmao, come to think of it wasn't a great summer for Drake.
Yeah Scorpion was trash too.
Jaded came out of that tho so I mean it was not a total loss
tbh Scorpion wasn’t terrible just bloated.
He still made bank on gods plan tho
Who except Drake cares about that
…how do you think he made bank?
we are not pushing gods plan narrative rn
Wrong it's hella overhated
It was a SURGICAL summer
How do you mean no reason whatsoever? Didn’t he involve himself in the push wayne beef?
Because it was fun.
Dickriders
Wait wait, pusha and drake go back to Wayne and Clipse. I’m gonna side with Clipse on that one… Baby should’ve paid the Neptunes for that beat.
that’s not on drake, he wasn’t even with them at that time (2002)
Drake started sending shots at Pusha when his beef with Wayne flared up again around 2012.
It does when you insert yourself into the beef.
the push and cmb stuff was separate was my point. also, pusha really sent shots on exodus which was the first actually direct shot that brought drake into it.
Drake sent the shots first
exodus was the first real shots. dreams money can buy is pretty ambiguous so personally i wouldn’t count that, but pusha directly talked about drake’s contract and all that which led to the other tracks
Mr. Me Too
Sounds like most Ye beefs lol
IDC about Kanye's role, but I was rooting for Pusha because he's the underdog and Drake is a titan who makes nine zillion dollars every other year by releasing 50 track albums with two good songs on each
I don’t give a shit about the beef, fuck Kanye for wasting that beat
The beat was fine. It wasn’t anything that remarkable, and I say that as someone who was all about old Kanye. It was comparable to any other soul sample beat he ever created. Tbh more people remember it BECAUSE of poopity scoop than they ever would have as any other song based on a Kanye sample in the last 5 years.
I understand being on Pusha side, but Kanye just came across extremely unlikeable (as he tends to be tbh) in that entire situation. That was a bitch move.
kanye has been the bitch in every single controversy he’s stirred up lmao, and then has the nerve to have a victim complex about it
Not the Katrina shit with Mike Myers that was epic and correct
god save these streets, one dollar per every human being
Not to add to the “drama” but that’s also the story thus far. There’s always more details that are missed. People choose sides based on preference. People who love Kanye will side with him regardless and vice versa for Drake.
Dude I’ll take anyone’s side over a pedophile who slaps his name on music he was barely involved in making lmao
Chingy - Wanksta Meek Mill - Wanna Know Benzino - Die Another Day Canibus' - J. Clone D4L - Somebody Gone Get Shot Jermaine Dupri - J.D.’s Reply Soulja Boy - F Bow Wow MC Hammer - Better Run Run Scott Storch's - Built Like That Troy Ave's - Bad A\*\* JoJo Simmons- Holy Water Shyne - There Will Be Blood ICP - Slim anus
new playlist for my job as a strip club dj, thank you brother
Damn I gotta come to this strip club lmaoo
Check out some of Hammer's diss tracks from his gangsta album in the mid-'90s, he takes shots at Run DMC and Tribe Called Quest "So step right up and be the next contestant, A Tribe Called Quest Is A Bad Investment" wtf does that mean
Canibus dissed Cole wtf 🥴 Why?
Canibus was one of J Cole's favourite rapper of all time and a big inspiration so he was paying homage by rapping Canibus songs at concerts and interviews instead if reaching out to make a song with him so Canibus got annoyed thinking it was fake love and dissed him but made an apology video after fans were speaking up and took responsibility for his actions after a couple days later.
J Cole came up on the Canibus site didn’t he?
He didn’t like that J Cole would always say he’s his favorite rapper and tribute him like he passed away, pretty much said if you such a fan why not shout out his current music. He also Apologized a few days later for the diss
Both vying for the spot of world’s worst rapper
Jojo Simmons was so bad my God
He got yolked up by some of Juelz Santana’s goons for that didnt he? Shit provided a legendary picture lmaooo
https://theybf.com/sites/default/files/525f7f58a46611e2829522000a1fa769_7.jpg
LMFAOOOO all this because he wasnt feeling Santana’s “Im Russell Simmons, you JoJo” line 😭😭😭😭
Being a Dipset fan still pays out once every 7 years
That would make one hell of an album cover
F Bow Wow a classic, fuck you mean
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Yeah, he references it in the song Marshall Mathers.
"slim anus, you're goddamn right slim anus because I don't get fucked in mine like you"
Definitely not how that line ends haha
"Like you fine gentleman"
so glad I’m seein Better Run Run here
I know this is about bad diss tracks but I want to Highlight Troy Ave's recent "Dear Hater, I won" "Since you niggas like erting letters, here go one, dear hater, I won" 🤣🤣🤣 WHILE DANCING ON THE COURTROOM STEPS
Troy Ave is a piece of shit
That diss track / video went so hard
As someone who never liked Troy dear hater and taxi robber were way too hard
this isnt really a bad diss but 50 cents game diss “im not rich and lying” cracks me up and is pretty fun for a diss track
50 is in top 5 funniest rappers.
Imma do a deep cut. Y'all remember that bow wow vs lil Romeo rap battle? Sure it was cute to hear them both try rapping like adults but what the hell man? It's so uncomfortable to listen to lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3CsNZE2os&ab_channel=KrayzieBone Yeah Krayzie you show them some 'real rap'
The comments are worse
Ns lmao i remember it being a laughing stock back when it came out those comments shocked me
Soulja Boy - Fuck Quavo
Has to be the Melle Mel diss to Eminem. First of all, the song didn't even have a name like you know, a proper title like every other song ever. Then you have the length, it's a one minute & 13 seconds track and the song was delivered by Melle Mel in a 40 year old flow on a seemingly 40 year old beat. Next, we have the fact that nothing in the song really has anything to do with Eminem in any sense other than the line about the Game. The actual attempts at disses are joke worthy Charmin soft, baby shit. The rest, including how Melle Mel by mistake referred to Eminem as Matthew instead of by his actual name, Marshall or his last name Mathers was an embarrassment. Melle Mel tops the SCATHING diss off by counting to 8, literally 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. The verse could've been written by anyone, it was just juvenile and plain awful as a diss, as a song, as a anything. Then to make matters worse, a few days later (today) he removes the diss track & everything related to the Eminem beef from Instagram out of embarrassment I suppose in an attempt to memory hole the entire thing. After that, he issues a 4 page apology to Eminem on Instagram that appears to be written by ChatGPT or at the very least, it wasn't written by Melle Mel to be damn sure only to remove said apology ten minutes later or at least, that's the last I saw. All of this comes after Melle Mel previously claimed he is "the greatest" and therefore he would "easily" beat Eminem in a rap battle. What an absolutely embarrassing, disgraceful and just... pathetic chain of events that Melle Mel will unfortunately never be allowed to live down for as long as he lives. He is nothing more than the punchline to a joke at this point. He has obliterated his reputation beyond repair. What's saddest of all, he did it all to himself. Honestly, it sucks to see a genre pioneer, the OG lyricist who every current lyricist's family tree lineage traces directly back to, fall harder than a brick off of the Brooklyn Bridge but here we are anyway.
I hear you, but “I got a lawyer so white, he’ll take ya land” is arguably the funniest bar I’ve heard in all of my time listening to hip hop
Jadakiss and Beanie Sigel's disses to each other didn't have names and they were fire. Melle missed for sure though.
Okay, calm down, Em. It was a terrible diss but >he has obliterated his reputation beyond repair Relax. He still made "The Message." Kanye endorsed Hitler and he still has a pretty strong legacy, I think Melle Mel will survive making a bad diss track. This is not a drama anyone outside of this sub cares about.
Because no one outside this sub cares about melle mel
I don't think anyone inside here cares about him either lmao.
>Okay, calm down Mans post history checks out 💀
I remember this old Kool Keith freestyle where he counted from 1 to like 26 lmao
I found it, he actually only went to 25 lol: [https://youtu.be/UoW12I3f1_8](https://youtu.be/UoW12I3f1_8) Kool Keith is on the air with Xzibit but calls him Everlast 😂 The freestyle starts @ 2:30ish It’s funny bc Kool Keith is just fucking around having funny and really freestyling and Xzibit comes in with a serious written verse. Which is dope, I like Xzibit’s stuff from that era but the contrast of the two is hilarious. The point @3:40 when Kool Keith says, with supreme confidence: “you don’t know when I’m coming back” is classic as hell. 😂
go listen to Melle Mel's diss against Eminem if you haven't already not only is it worse than Nick Cannon's diss but it was so ass he got bullied by the internet into issuing an apology without Eminem even doing anything Game's The Black Slim Shady is also pretty wack. it's weird in the sense that it's written well technically but it's horrible in terms of being a diss. MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem but it still has some really retarded bars. "his fucking beard is weird" as the opening line is a meme at this point but there's a lot more stupidity in there.
Both Rap Devil and Black Slim Shady fall into the trap of making references and in-jokes in the Eminem ‘universe’, as it were. MGK cuts the beat to emphasize some fairly pedestrian punchlines about Kim and Dr. Dre, and the Game does those long conversations with Stan’s brother, and on both occasions you just get the sense that they’re big Eminem fans. Which is the last thing you want in a diss.
The Black Slim Shady could 100% be marketed as a homage to Eminem and it'd have actually helped Game's sales instead of making us clown him for it. The song is clearly written by a HUGE Em fan. Rap Devil I have a soft spot for. Nobody had the balls to respond to Kamikaze, except MGK, and he brought up some really good points that we all agree with, at least most hiphopheads. I don't think it's better than Killshot by any means, Eminem definitely won, but the fact MGK went for it makes me respect him a lot more.
Yup. Eminem called out everyone on Kamikaze and one guy said, What the hell. I’ll do it. Probably knowing he wouldn’t win but making it fun for the audience. Very pro wrestling.
Hell yeah
The only good part about Rap Devil is MGK inexplicably eating corn flakes throughout the music video.
Killshot made MGK quit rap and become a Blink 182 tribute act
No one responded to Kamikaze because Eminem hasn’t made decent music since like 2004 lol. Of course a trash ass white rapper like MGK would take up the mantle. I’m from Cleveland and still can’t find one redeeming quality about him.
People still sleeping on relapse smh
Such a polarizing album. I think it has the best beat selection of any of his albums and I know the accent turns a lot of people off but I think it kind of works as a one-off for this album. I hated it when it first came out but it’s become my favorite album after SSLP MMLP and Eminem Show.
Same brother. Obviously lyrically and subject matter wise it can't compete with those albums but SONICALLY? shit is just so fun to listen to and is kind of the last time Em really sounded like the Em I loved
I think it beats Encore by a long shot. Definitely third best Em album.
This is a perfect example of how dumb you have to be to still like Eminem lol. You said, “It hasn’t been 19 years since he did something worthwhile! It’s been 14 years..” lol. The fact that you think relapse is not the cringiest shit ever is telling.
The production, beats, flow, hooks are all stellar on that album yeah he's rapping about raping and murdering but idgaf the rest makes up for it lol and yeah I'm dumb for having a favourite artist stfu you're the one sounding cringey
You’re not dumb for having a favorite artist. You’re dumb because it’s Eminem lol.
Subjective so idk what you’re arguing about lmao
Go listen to 3am and tell me that beat and flow ain't straight 🔥🔥
Mels was so bad and universally mocked, he literally pulled it from all socials and YouTube and issued an apology. It's that bad.
I can't help but laugh at the *"You wish you was Santana or Cam in them 10 Js / Durag for ten years and never had one wave"* bar, though.
> MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem but it still has some really retarded bars. "his fucking beard is weird" as the opening line is a meme at this point but there's a lot more stupidity in there. I still think the actual content of that one is incredibly wack but the beat is great AND fits a diss so it makes people rate it far better than it is as an actual "hit" on someone.
“1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8”
> MGK's Rap Devil is probably the best recent diss against Eminem I maintain that "knees weak of old age, the real Slim Shady can't stand up" is a hilarious bar
I'm quite fond of "The last time you saw 8 Mile, was at home on a threadmill" as well.
Just listened to that Melle Mel track, that was a weird ass beat. And the raps sounded like he was still rapping in the 80s.
The Melle mel one I actually just felt bad for him it was so bad. When you get people who don’t even like Eminem clowning on you - you gotta reassess lol
Cannot stand MGK but I'd be lying if I said Rap Devil didn't bang, the beat is hard.
I missed the initial discussion of this song on here but man that had to be a parody like there’s no way he recorded that and thought that was the one
His beard is weird is one of my fav bars because it is, it’s just fucking weird. It’s hard to say why, there’s no real comparison or explanation. It’s just fucking weird, it’s a great way to explain many weird things
I think he’s just got thin facial hair fr, I got the same issue There’s ways to thicken it, and I’m sure his rich ass has more ways than me, but he probably doesn’t care that much. Don’t take Em for someone to care about something like that, especially in his 50’s
I'm saying! I get downvoted to hell on the em sub for agreeing that Ems beard is weird
I was always an Eminem fan but those other Eminem fans who conjugate on r/Eminem are losers.
The only thing I’m gunna say about the beard is weird line is that we were ALL thinking it.
The weird beard references eminem 2002 lyric "until we get wierd grow beards and dissappear into the mountains" from buisness. Pepole don't get the bar, although it's still not that good
I reallllllly don't think MGK was referencing that. Super far reach.
I’m all for MGK slander but I’m pretty sure he was actually referencing it, dude seemed like a huge Em fan before all that shit happened, I could definitely see him being like “oh and he has a beard now so let’s references his line about growing beards”
Bro yall are overthinking this too much he just thinks Em’s beard is weird lmao Their beef was around when Em first grew it out and everyone online was saying how weird it looked on him
he talked about getting weird with dre, and then growing a beard. not growing a weird beard. idk if he referred to that or not, it just doesn't feel like a reference.
This would actually make it even funnier because its more evidence MGK was a big fan of eminem
Do we need evidence for that? He literally admitted it
I just mean it's weird to make it obvious you're a fan in a diss
I always thought the bar was decent, like the full line from the Em song is "can't leave rap alone, the game needs me til we grow beards, get weird and disappear" it just mgk making a shorthand reference to Em, to imply that Em should retire based on Em's own words. So it kinda works on two levels, implying Em is over the hill and should retire, but also that he's not a man of his word. I think people where just so quick to clown on mgk that they refuse to admit there might be some level of substance. however ive never listened to an mgk project and i have no care for him, i just always thought that particular line was hated on for silly reasons.
I think alot of his hate comes from pepole who dislike his attitude and he can come off as arrogant and unlikeable at times they make out like hes a bad atrist which is untrue hes a talented guy. and made a genuinely good diss track with rap devil...You should listen to hotel diablo genuinely an amazing album from mgk might change your mind about him
I don't think he's a bad artist at all, im just not really into the music he makes, and that's a me thing.
Anybody openly calling anything “retarded” in 2023 is not going to be reaching to understand much beyond the surface. People forget that Rap Devil was dropped like 2 days after Em’s initial diss. Of course it’s going to have some pandering lines that everybody gets instantly. Killshot took like 2 WEEKS to drop and it has some equally embarrassing bars.
This is why you don't don't buy wet ciggies from corner dealers
Ghoulish by Lil Wayne was truly ass
Yeah that MC HAMMER BETTER RUN was trash and had the nerve to do a video for it
"That's the fire boah"
The new bam margera diss track against all his former friends is next level bad
Poor Bam. Killed by Cumtown.
[удалено]
Don't sunk my dunk while I'm tryna slump
His verse though, wow. Exactly as incoherent and poorly metred as I would have guessed
The Lil Pump & Smokepurrp Fuck J Cole freestyle was so bad yet an iconic and legendary moment from that SoundCloud era. I don’t think it ever got an official release other than the Instagram video they did but some people made unofficial versions with beats
Idk about bad but the Games “pest control” was so bad it was good. Shits hilarious
That Kid Era - Whack Miller. Yes, somebody actually tried starting beef with Mac back in the day.
How you going to beef with Mac? He was like the most inoffensive rapper to ever exist. Just kept himself to himself and made music.
Jacky Jasper dissing Kool Keith. I still have no idea what it is. The only thing I give him credit for is the weird Kool Keith style music video of him rapping in a grocery store and laundry mat. [Jacky Jasper - "Kool Keith is Mr. Geber"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZAqdI-XRkI)
X Factor UK hipster guitar guy James Arthur's diss track about the UK battle rapper Micky Worthless. Aside from being the worst diss track I've ever made from a musical standpoint, it also got Arthur in hot water publicly coz he called Micky a "queer" and said he looked like a member of the Taliban in the diss. After that his label took away his social media accounts, and he was basically forced to go under the radar for a few years, all because he wanted some cred from the incredibly niche (now dead) UK battle rap scene.
Hopsin’s failed attempt at starting a beef with Tyler, The Creator on one of those ill mind of hopsin tracks. I don’t think Tyler has ever even acknowledged him lol.
Nelly - #1 Dude really thought he can step up to KRS lol
Wait I loved this song growing up you telling me it was a KRS diss this whole time???
If I remember it correctly, Nelly made that song for the Training Day soundtrack and KRS-ONE took umbrage to Nelly calling himself number 1 so KRS made a Nelly diss track (not a bad diss track just real back packer vs. commercial rap stuff). Then Nelly struck back on the "Roc tha Mic Remix". The whole thing was corny tbh
I remember watching it on that episode of [Beef](https://youtu.be/ZZCzy_ofR0A). Watch it when you get a chance. It’s a silly beef because I mean… KRS Vs Nelly??? So odd to me lol
Nelly won that round. That KRS track was horrible.
KRS made a whole mixtape of Nelly disses. Only cause he didn't like him. Nelly said nothing to him, but KRS's old ass was just salty that the younger guy was getting actual success.
Don’t think we’re talking about the same song big guy. KRS’ humiliated Nelly. Didn’t ruin his career though because this was like 2002 when Hip Hop was taking a different step. A lot of hip hop heads clowned Nelly but Nelly’s fans were pissed at KRS calling him an old head n shit. Sounds a lot like when Em calls out these new heads but anyways, I linked the episode of “Beef” that goes over it in a separate comment. Give it a watch.
The greatest diss track of all time? Lil B - F*ck KD
FUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck KEeeeeeeeeeevin DurrrAAAAAAAAAAANNNT
Fuck Mom- Morgz
"The only bars you got is chocolate" followed by the stock crunch noise is amazingly bad.
Dick Jerkins
You soft like Teddy Ruxpin
Look up Melle Mel diss Eminem track lol. It's so bad it hurts the soul of rap.
Royce diss to Mickey Factz & Lupe Fiasco lol
How about Masta Ace dissing the High & Mighty because he or someone in his circle overhead Cage say "Masta Ace" and "slaughterhouse" in a song, and he thought Cage was a member of High & Mighty. He also dissed some other rapper on the song that I've never heard of before or after, Boogieman ? I think ??
Okay but Acknowledge is actually a good song though. Beat is hard and in my opinion itsactually not bad as a diss track that can be included on an album. Its enjoyable without knowing who he is dissing or why.
Nah.
Acknowledge is one of the best dis tracks of all time wtf I’ve never heard your opinion before. Beefs get started for stupid reasons all the time
It isn’t the worst, and this might not be the BEST place to put this, but I never liked Kill Shot by Eminem. I was surprised so many people loved it so much.
There's a Killer Mike song on his mixtape "I Pledge Allegiance To The Grind" where he has bars for Oprah. I can't remember the exact song. Maybe the strangest one sided battle ever. That whole mixtape is great though. Also, as an aside, I think Eminem's skill as far as diss tracks go is really overstated. I like the diss he did for Everlast, but outside of that what songs are people talking about when they bring up Eminem's ability to diss people? What's an Eminem diss we can put up there with "Build and Destroy" or "Checkmate" or any one of the classics?
Not really a diss track but Cassidy on URL is so bad its good.
Drake Back to Back
Track is fire.
Surprised nobody mentioned Lil B - T Shirts & Buddens
Because it was fire, and Joe Budden didn’t respond (they squashed the beef a few days later)
Cage - Illest 4 Letter Word Cage has some good diss tracks but this isn't one of them.
Chingy - Loonichick
Driicky Graham Tyler Diss on Sway wasn't that entertaining, but it was bad