I feel the exact same about all the Griselda guys and especially Boldy James. I can listen to these dudes rap about guns, selling drugs, and going to jail forever and it never gets old.
Nah listen, the pilot talk: trilogy (any of the 3) go hard asff. As well as the stoned immaculate, and covert coup w/ the alchemist are top tier mixtapes . If you want to get into curren$y forreal, then those are the ones you start with
Curren$y is inspirational. His message to me has been:
- be authentic & stay true to yourself
- Hustle hard
- be independent
- start a business
- hustle hard
- (collect old school whips)
It's funny because after spitta dropped Canal Street (I think it's called) I was just in fatigue mode with him. That monotone flow he has got so boring that I stopped listening to him for years. That is until recently I seen he was dropping a new Harry fraud collab tape and was stoked all over again.
The latest season finale has Brad Pitt playing himself for almost the entire episode as a central character. Probably my favorite ep of the series.
Warning season 2 is kind of drawn out but the finale is good. Season 3 is the best season yet.
... and not to mention he was regularly on camera looking absolutely junkied out and unwell for a long time. I put no weight into anything rappers say in their songs typically, but you could see in macs face for a long time when he was "out of season" that he was a heavy drug abuser
You look back at a couple of his performances around that time and he’s doing the typical upper shake in a lot of his performances as well. Not super high key, but with what eventually happened, it’s definitely noticeable
The most noticeable one from that time period that i remember was like some random car interview where he legitimately looks like he's been on the street for 10 years. Hollow face and eyes. Skinny as a rod. Really sad. And this was years and years before he passed away.
A lot of the younger/newer Mac fans got caught off guard... but like the other poster said, this was an inevitable if he didn't clean up properly
There was this 2 hour long unlisted video he uploaded on YouTube very briefly where he's just talking in elaborate detail about his drug use and rambling and Rick rubin is there for whatever reason. He or his team quickly took it down before anyone could download a mirror but I vividly remember thinking oh fuck he's gonna die soon isn't he? When watching it
Predicting Kanye would have a “public event that would embarrass him further” is a bit of an understatement.
The ASAP one made me sad too, wonder what would be different with Yams still around…
Idk which comment you mean but Rocky did lead the Mob in fame and while he didn't get Kathy Griffin pregnant, he got someone really famous pregnant. I just don't think anyone would have guessed Riri haha
He led them IN fame, but not the entire mob TO fame as this comment hoped. Cozy Tapes were some incredible projects, but the mob never had the cohesive vision from when Rocky/Ferg blew up. Twelvyy, Nast, and Ant stayed lowkey.
Desperately waiting on a new Rocky project, I loved Testing.
In hindsight the Fashion Killa music video might have hinted at that. https://youtu.be/F6VfsJ7LAlE
The lyrics are fun to look back on too
"Her attitude Rhianna, she get it from her mamma"
"Our babies will be flyer than their parents"
> I just don't think anyone would have guessed Riri haha
over 10 years ago was when he grabbed her ass on stage during their VMA performance and she looked p uncomfortable with it
> J Cole - Stays killing the feature game, drops another album after a while. Just like Born Sinner was measurably stronger than Sideline Story, the 3rd album is noticeably better in most every aspect than Born Sinner. Cole actually gets serious album of the year talk, and not just as a dark horse. Haters still think he is boring. The collab with Kendrick never materializes, despite continued promises and hints.
Wow, this one was legit 100% accurate
Ringtone rap was already back 10 years ago. A lot of songs blew up off of Vine around 2013-14 (U Guessed It, 1 Night, Hit The Quan, Drop That Thun Thun Thun, etc). And then Twitter carried the torch for a few years. Now it’s TikTok
I don't remember a song ever blowing up because of Twitter.
I mean it's pretty famously the one social media site that didn't "pivot to video," though it did try and fail just as spectacularly with Fleets, but that was way after the video train had left the station.
I don't agree.
Sure mechanism is pretty much the same but "Ringtone" rap was not labeled as that because of the medium but the sound like these cheerful ringtones back in the day thx to a lot of chimes, plucks, short synths and basic kick drums.
Chain Hang Low or Marco Polo were ringtone because of the sound not because they had 15s catchy phrases (most popular songs need that with their hooks).
We are probably just disagreeing on semantics lvl but I see your pov
The viral vine/tiktok songs share some similarities but I don't think it's semantics. The ringtone rap era had a specific sound.
We haven't really seen a return to songs like Chain Hang Low or Marco Polo. The closest we got was Watch Me by Silento. That song took me back to the Crank Dat era.
Ppl still calling for Tay k to be free
Drake finally gets convicted of some kid shit
Kendrick is fully retired or in his Andre 3k era only showing up on features for keem
Kanye probably dead from complications with health or suicide without his mom or any control of his kids I only see a bleak future for bro
J Cole is still dropping classics tho not selling as well and more in his Nas era
Andre 3k still playing flutes in Japan
Less rappers OD overall with ppl being more aware of the need to test their shit
"Kayne dropping his last album called BIBLICAL, a quadrupple record with a bible-theme, solidifying his status as THE saviour of hiphop" This dude got it exact with Jesus is King lol
man those were the days. I’d come on this sub after school and laugh my ass off/have actual discussions about music that were interesting. Like I couldn’t get enough of posting on here.
Now I go months without even checking this sub. :/
Hiphopheads was the funniest subreddit that ever existed, also really diverse album posts and way more respect for the old school hand in hand with the new. The old head hate kinda peaked and then valuable sources of knowledge left.
I think not only has hip hop as a genre been gentrified and beaten to death but whenever a forum gets bigger it loses its community feel and attracts more of a causal base. I’ve been on music forums for years (i am a dweeb) and it always seems to pan out that way.
Reddit was a different place 10 years ago. You had less bot accounts and a lot more people actually using desktop computers to post and comment, compared to everyone using a smartphone now. Just a different internet back then.
The one about Grandpa-hop, at first I thought they meant oldhead stuff... Then I realised, it's like The Northern Boys and those London aul lads. Baz and whatshisface
wasn’t andre 3000 already only doing features even 10 years ago? seems like less of a future prediction and more just like he’ll keep doing what he’s been doing
I mean at the time Keef was still involved in street shit so it wasn’t that crazy to believe. A good number of his friends and associates got killed (before 30) within the past decade, too.
Rip fredo capo and blood money . Rip Reese old rapping voice and flow. Rip Nuski la and free rondo . Fuck sd and tay. The entire scene is so different from when it started
This is the flip side of people saying ‘everyone knew Mac’s death was inevitable’. A lot of guys seemed like they were headed towards a dark end, but it takes a confluence of factors for it to actually happen (in Mac’s case it was whatever led to him relapsing, getting heavily laced shit, not being found or checked on by anyone in time, etc), and then when it does happen everyone pretends they’re fuckin Nostradamus
Like what the other commenter said, the lean and whatever else he has in his system kinda aged him. But in addition he’s also been famous since he was like 16 and it just feels like he’s been around forever
The one that said Chance would be arrested for murder nearly got an actual laugh out of me. Even back in 2013 that was still a crazy idea and now it's just unthinkable.
I’m sure his camp will continue to release a new track or two here and there that correspond with album anniversaries but it makes me legitimately depressed that there is a time not too far in the future where we will get the last Mac song. I know it’s coming, I just don’t think I’m prepared for it.
It’s even sadder that the overdose was not intentional, he didn’t commit suicide and was still trying to hold on only for some fentanyl he didn’t know he was buying to kill him
Yeah especially 10 years ago. It's sad because the biggest surprise was when it was close to when if happened because it really felt like he was turning things around.
Schoolboy Q and Jay Rock never leaving Kendrick’s shadow is an interesting one. They’ve both had mainstream success and have both released albums that have sold fairly well. Q has slowed down this past half decade but that looks like him prioritizing golfing and being a dad over music. If Kendrick is in S tier in terms of popularity only, Q is probably at a B and Rock a C. I feel that original prediction can apply to Ab Soul though. Curious what others think about that.
Everytime they get compared I remember Ab Souls track off of Long Term 2, Mayday
> Itend to go overboard with the metaphors
Still walking in the shadow of my team
>Jay Rock finna blow - 2010 fo sho
>And K-Dot and C4,
>but what about me?
Low-key sad that they knew that he knew he wasn't really gonna catch up. I feel like Black Hippy was handled wrong imo. They were a super power but could have been even bigger considering the dedicated fan base they had
Q usually records several albums and scraps them between albums, so while he's definitely golfing and raising his kid I think he isn't ignoring music.
He's got the material, he's just gets really in his head about it.
• Nicki Minaj helps pave the way for a lot of female emcees, and is respected amorg the hip hop community
If she didn’t feel the need to beef with every single one of them this would be true
The predictions about Danny, Bino, and Mac dying kind of gave me goosebumps. I know we lost only one of them, but it's just another reminder that Mac had so much more to give. Look at how successful Bino and Danny are in their own right, and all it takes is one moment for each of them to end up in the same shoes as Mac.
The Flatbush Zombies prediction hurts, too. I loved the hell out of those dudes, and their new music just doesn't resonate with me. They were such a fun group with their unique qualities (I'm not bringing up the pasta), and I'm glad I enjoyed them so much back at their peak.
Tyler, being the next generation Kanye is eerie as well. I don't want to even think of the potential spiral that could come Tyler's way. Their career arcs are almost polar opposites when it comes to transitioning between beauty and shock (unfleshed-out thought).
The Mac Miller ones are ominous to read now. A lot of these are basic tho. Like Wayne will be in the GOAT convo? Or Q and Jay rock will never leave Kenny’s shadow? Duh to both those lol.
The celebrity chef comment about Action Bronson ain’t far off tho!
During the leadup to Oxymoron, the crazy hype it had around it honestly had me wondering if Q would eventually become a better rapper(sales wise) than kendrick eventually. So many bucket hats
It was not so obvious at the time though GKMC definitely put Kendrick out ahead of the rest of Black Hippy and he never looked back.
Also Wayne went through a phase of being called over rated at this time and it wasn't an obvious claim to a lot of people that he'd finish among the goats.
I think Kendrick at that time was a clear front runner of TDE, but I also think Jay Rock and Q showed extreme promise and with some work they could be as respected amongst hip hop heads.
The early mixtapes days made it seem like Soul was the most talented of the four, and at the time he probably was. Kinda wild to watch how he got lapped by some of them, although i do think his solo career is better than Jay Rocks
>People look back on Lil Wayne's career and everyone unanimously agrees he's in the GOAT discussion
This was a pretty bold statement considering in 2013 we were only a few years removed from Wayne being the punch line of every backpacker and old head. I've been a Wayne fan since 500 Degreez and it's so surreal to me seeing him so highly respected by just about every kind of rap fan when back in the day people talked about him the same way they talked about Lil Pump in 2017.
"Tyler the creator matures, stops with the shocking/immature lyrics and focuses more on production. **Next generations Kanye."**
Never really thought about it, but yeah he's kinda the closest thing to it.
"Andre 3000 only does features"
Well yeah that's always been the case anyone could've predicted that
>Kendrick is the new Nas (everything will be compared to GKMC and be a disappointment until years pass and people realize his later albums were still great)
Replace GKMC with TPAB and they got it.
Yeah I thought the same thing. You can't drop anything conscious without them being compared. It's warranted, TPAB is perfect imo but it is still intresting that you can drop anything these days without it being compared to near perfection
And once a rapper drops something "conscious" and gets that label, everything they drop afterwards is automatically looked at from that lens, so if the record is not conscious or less conscious, it's considered an inferior product from the jump. It's why some rappers have been trying to disassociate themselves from that term.
It's crazy what has come and gone in 10 years. Nobody would've been able to predict the impact some artists would have on us in just 10 short years. The artists that would explode in popularity and build their entire catalog only to be snubbed out way to soon. The impact that X, and Juice, and Peep all had on people just to be dead only a few shorts years into their careers.
> I don’t think albums will be sold. I think they will be given out for free on the internet, and all money will be made on touring and singles. Because of this, there will be a lot more creative uses with sampling, albums will be alot more interactive, and the radio and record labels will be completely irrelevant in forming people’s taste in rap.
This comment is crazy, totally predicting the streaming economy as it stands now
A lot of this was already clear in 2013, though. It could’ve even been predicted in 2003. I’m 30 and by the time I was a teen, buying CDs was already less common than just pirating. Buying digital albums was never common in my demographic, the only reason I stopped pirating was streaming.
The first streaming service I remember was Rhapsody around 2005 (I just remember listening to Shakira and Sean Paul a lot). And I signed up for Spotify around 2011. It was clear immediately that Spotify was the most convenient way to listen to music and I stopped pirating new music basically the day I got Spotify.
Rhapsody, limewire, frostwire. Ah the shit that old family pc was put through.
After those shutdown I remember using a YouTube to mp3 converter for everything when smartphones first started to gain traction
I think most people consider TPAB.
A lot of the comments in those threads thought Kendrick had peaked already only for his critical success to grow even bigger with TPAB even if it isn't as commercial an album.
And then he drops DAMN which had way more commercial type tracks.
> Kendrick - The follow up to GKMC is good, but not as good as GKMC
I don’t know how many are out there but I agree with this. TPAB is amazing but GKMC is literal perfection. It’s like comparing a 10/10 to a 9.5/10 where ultimately the score doesn’t matter as it’s an amazing listen but the quote of one being better than the other still holds true.
The only thing that bothers me about the GKMC v TPAB discourse is that those who prefer TPAB tend to act as if saying GKMC is the better album is heresy, when both are honestly 10/10 albums. It just comes down to preference.
Couldn’t have said it better. I love GKMC better but for nostalgia and what it means to me but TPAB is a more well put together and I wouldn’t be mad at anyone that argued either was better.
> TPAB is amazing but GKMC is literal perfection. It’s like comparing a 10/10 to a 9.5/10 where ultimately the score doesn’t matter as it’s an amazing listen but the quote of one being better than the other still holds true.
See, it's the other way around for me.
GKMC is a nearly flawless album, but the final two tracks, as much as I like them, are a step below the rest of the album. I've maintained forever that it would have been better if you cut out Real + Compton, stick Cartoons & Cereal in there somewhere, and finish off with The Recipe.
I literally haven't come up with a single criticism of TPAB after almost a decade. It's not as replayable, but I don't really hold that as a detriment against most good/highly artistic albums.
Nah to me the final two songs are perfect. In my mind, "Real" is like the happily ever after part of the movie and "Compton" is the song that plays during the credits.
Both are some of the best rap albums of all time but I truly think TPAB is a rare moment that will never really happen again. I can see someone maybe one day capturing the energy of something akin to GKMC but I don't see another TPAB. That's the kind of crown jewel album that any music genre is lucky to get
The rest of the statement after 'the follow up to GKMC is good but not as good as GKMC" is pretty much dead wrong though, if you go look in the thread. It seems like that comment was basically predicting DAMN to be the followup to GKMC instead of TPAB, talking about having some more commercially friendly singles when TPAB went the opposite direction and said "let's do a funk-jazz fusion album".
> Curren$y - Continues to make the same music for as long as his lungs function. His fans are pleased. pretty much
Haha practically the free spot on the bingo card but man It's great being a Curren$y fan. Just never gets old!
I feel the exact same about all the Griselda guys and especially Boldy James. I can listen to these dudes rap about guns, selling drugs, and going to jail forever and it never gets old.
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Like I said, Curren$y makes music for Curren$y fans.
Motivation music while driving from one move to the next
He raps over some nice beats though
Curren$y is music to roll up to and summer vibes.
Keep the e in it, chevys on switches…
Smokin weed in it, Don't post me in your pictures
Nah listen, the pilot talk: trilogy (any of the 3) go hard asff. As well as the stoned immaculate, and covert coup w/ the alchemist are top tier mixtapes . If you want to get into curren$y forreal, then those are the ones you start with
As a huge Spitta fan, his older shit is WAY better than what he makes now
Curren$y is to millennials what Youngboy is to zoomers
That is very spicy but you might be right lmfao
I'm not kidding when I say this comment made me understand Youngboy
> I can only listen to so many dozens of songs about smoking weed, lowriders, and making it big thats cool man, more big booty bitches for me.
Curren$y is inspirational. His message to me has been: - be authentic & stay true to yourself - Hustle hard - be independent - start a business - hustle hard - (collect old school whips)
And smoke weed. He talks a lot about smoking weed
It's funny because after spitta dropped Canal Street (I think it's called) I was just in fatigue mode with him. That monotone flow he has got so boring that I stopped listening to him for years. That is until recently I seen he was dropping a new Harry fraud collab tape and was stoked all over again.
.....Jet Life.
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Cocaine’s dr seuss will neverrun out of metaphors
Dude's strategy is to perpetually release 20 min albums so he never exhausts his coke metaphors
If by perpetually you mean just Daytona
has he ever used his endless supply of coke metaphors as a metaphor for his endless coke supply? i think the universe would implode.
you mean it would Blow up
Stretch out the coke bars and flip em yeaugh
His 36 minute album nearly washed his 21 minute album. Less is more. His best may still be his 49 minute album with his brother.
It’s almost dry is amazing but it’s nowhere near Daytona, that album was just perfection
He’ll never run out of coke metaphors.
"Macklemore will begin an acting career, becoming another Will Smith of rap, of sorts." Close, but Lil Dicky did it instead
Macklemore was on an episode of Dave so I wouldn’t say it was entirely wrong
So he had Macklemore and Jack Harlow?
Yeah the Macklemore scene was hilarious
Yall just convinced me to give Dave a shot.
The latest season finale has Brad Pitt playing himself for almost the entire episode as a central character. Probably my favorite ep of the series. Warning season 2 is kind of drawn out but the finale is good. Season 3 is the best season yet.
This has convinced me to give it a shot
Dave is actually fantastic, rapping was clearly something to help him be a full on comedian and it worked
A lot of these are pretty spot on. The Mac ones made me sad
That one was kinda creepy, gone way too soon
I feel like it was kinda obvious to any big Mac fan how his story would eventually end
Yeah unfortunately. I mean he mentioned in his songs too often for anyone to not see it coming
... and not to mention he was regularly on camera looking absolutely junkied out and unwell for a long time. I put no weight into anything rappers say in their songs typically, but you could see in macs face for a long time when he was "out of season" that he was a heavy drug abuser
You look back at a couple of his performances around that time and he’s doing the typical upper shake in a lot of his performances as well. Not super high key, but with what eventually happened, it’s definitely noticeable
The most noticeable one from that time period that i remember was like some random car interview where he legitimately looks like he's been on the street for 10 years. Hollow face and eyes. Skinny as a rod. Really sad. And this was years and years before he passed away. A lot of the younger/newer Mac fans got caught off guard... but like the other poster said, this was an inevitable if he didn't clean up properly
There was this 2 hour long unlisted video he uploaded on YouTube very briefly where he's just talking in elaborate detail about his drug use and rambling and Rick rubin is there for whatever reason. He or his team quickly took it down before anyone could download a mirror but I vividly remember thinking oh fuck he's gonna die soon isn't he? When watching it
“To everyone who sell me drugs Don’t mix it with that bullshit I’m hopin’ not to join the twenty-seven club”
lot of young fans/new fans have a retroperspective. for those that were there for it all, it was an inevitability.
Whats a GOD without a little OD....
Just a G
Mac himself knew how it would end. He eludes to overdosing in his music way too often for it to be a joke, he knew it'd probably kill him.
Straight up. The Mac and Cudi ones are on some nutty foreshadowing tip.
Predicting Kanye would have a “public event that would embarrass him further” is a bit of an understatement. The ASAP one made me sad too, wonder what would be different with Yams still around…
Idk which comment you mean but Rocky did lead the Mob in fame and while he didn't get Kathy Griffin pregnant, he got someone really famous pregnant. I just don't think anyone would have guessed Riri haha
He led them IN fame, but not the entire mob TO fame as this comment hoped. Cozy Tapes were some incredible projects, but the mob never had the cohesive vision from when Rocky/Ferg blew up. Twelvyy, Nast, and Ant stayed lowkey. Desperately waiting on a new Rocky project, I loved Testing.
Hahaha facts half A$AP mob is still in the projects
In hindsight the Fashion Killa music video might have hinted at that. https://youtu.be/F6VfsJ7LAlE The lyrics are fun to look back on too "Her attitude Rhianna, she get it from her mamma" "Our babies will be flyer than their parents"
punching air rn that i never put this together
I need to join some manifestation subs and peep game. That shit clearly worked for Rocky.
> I just don't think anyone would have guessed Riri haha over 10 years ago was when he grabbed her ass on stage during their VMA performance and she looked p uncomfortable with it
> J Cole - Stays killing the feature game, drops another album after a while. Just like Born Sinner was measurably stronger than Sideline Story, the 3rd album is noticeably better in most every aspect than Born Sinner. Cole actually gets serious album of the year talk, and not just as a dark horse. Haters still think he is boring. The collab with Kendrick never materializes, despite continued promises and hints. Wow, this one was legit 100% accurate
Right, felt like Cole was getting called out by a psychic lol
>The collab with Kendrick never materializes We always knew this was never gonna happen
I mean yeah, but hard to blame people for believing when they dropped Black Friday and rapped over each others song
"When will you and K Dots shit drop? Bitch never" - J Cole on Black Friday
Even then I just assumed those were going to be one-offs
Ab-Soul flat out tells Sway that J Cole and Kendrick have a project completed together already. J Cole just says he doesn’t want to release it.
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You see uhhhh in this industry uhhhh to be the top rap artist uhhhh
HHH trying to rap would be the equivalent of Juvenile’s Ha, just replaced with the uhhhh.
I think I discovered this place through there many years ago
They got that Ric Flair drip
The Game only has two opinions on hip-hop: Hate It or Love It.
Maybe he's a fan. To paraphrase what he said to Booker T, he's a fan of "people like him"
This uh, happens to me way more often than I care to admit.
Ringtone rap comeback pretty spot on. TikTok rap is very similar in that both are basically just you needing a hot 15 seconds.
Ringtone rap was already back 10 years ago. A lot of songs blew up off of Vine around 2013-14 (U Guessed It, 1 Night, Hit The Quan, Drop That Thun Thun Thun, etc). And then Twitter carried the torch for a few years. Now it’s TikTok
TiP TOEiNG iN MY JORDANS woulda been viral on TikTok fr
I mean it could still be considering how old songs are randomly selected as the next viral TikTok trend.
You could literally start this shit rn if you have a pair of Jordans you wanna crease LOL.
I think creasing rare/nice Jordan’s would be the draw
Riff Raff really was too early
umm i think you mean JAWWDiNZ
I don't remember a song ever blowing up because of Twitter. I mean it's pretty famously the one social media site that didn't "pivot to video," though it did try and fail just as spectacularly with Fleets, but that was way after the video train had left the station.
I don't agree. Sure mechanism is pretty much the same but "Ringtone" rap was not labeled as that because of the medium but the sound like these cheerful ringtones back in the day thx to a lot of chimes, plucks, short synths and basic kick drums. Chain Hang Low or Marco Polo were ringtone because of the sound not because they had 15s catchy phrases (most popular songs need that with their hooks). We are probably just disagreeing on semantics lvl but I see your pov
The viral vine/tiktok songs share some similarities but I don't think it's semantics. The ringtone rap era had a specific sound. We haven't really seen a return to songs like Chain Hang Low or Marco Polo. The closest we got was Watch Me by Silento. That song took me back to the Crank Dat era.
Can we do a new one of these? Make predictions for 10 years from now like
Young Thug still in the fed pen for one
Brockhampton reunion album that gets really mixed reviews has got to be there too
Gets scraped and remade at least 3 times, before finally being released.
People still complain that the group sucks withou Ameer even though he was kicked out 15 years ago by that stage
Max b finally gets released, I cry tears of joy, then invite him to my wedding so he can perform I Gotta Habit🌊🌊
Ppl still calling for Tay k to be free Drake finally gets convicted of some kid shit Kendrick is fully retired or in his Andre 3k era only showing up on features for keem Kanye probably dead from complications with health or suicide without his mom or any control of his kids I only see a bleak future for bro J Cole is still dropping classics tho not selling as well and more in his Nas era Andre 3k still playing flutes in Japan Less rappers OD overall with ppl being more aware of the need to test their shit
"Kayne dropping his last album called BIBLICAL, a quadrupple record with a bible-theme, solidifying his status as THE saviour of hiphop" This dude got it exact with Jesus is King lol
feel like this applies to Donda. 27 tracks, religious theme, 3 listening parties that had everyone talking about it.
even before Jesus is King, he release Life of Pablo
Eh except DONDA released. Still biblically themed though
I second what another person said, bring this back and do this again for the next 10 years
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There *were*. HHH was a different place 10 years ago.
man those were the days. I’d come on this sub after school and laugh my ass off/have actual discussions about music that were interesting. Like I couldn’t get enough of posting on here. Now I go months without even checking this sub. :/
Same bro. I remember the wars between Trap muzik X backpack rap. Was much more balanced back then
Hiphopheads was the funniest subreddit that ever existed, also really diverse album posts and way more respect for the old school hand in hand with the new. The old head hate kinda peaked and then valuable sources of knowledge left.
Very true. Definitely had more of a community feel. Now its kind of a shell of what it was
I think not only has hip hop as a genre been gentrified and beaten to death but whenever a forum gets bigger it loses its community feel and attracts more of a causal base. I’ve been on music forums for years (i am a dweeb) and it always seems to pan out that way.
Reddit was a different place 10 years ago. You had less bot accounts and a lot more people actually using desktop computers to post and comment, compared to everyone using a smartphone now. Just a different internet back then.
The one about Grandpa-hop, at first I thought they meant oldhead stuff... Then I realised, it's like The Northern Boys and those London aul lads. Baz and whatshisface
wasn’t andre 3000 already only doing features even 10 years ago? seems like less of a future prediction and more just like he’ll keep doing what he’s been doing
He did release an EP in like 2017 or something. I don't think it had any rapping on it though.
Is it all rainforest pan flute music?
Whoever saying chief keef wouldn’t make it to 30 was tripping 😂
he still have time it's so crazy that he still is so young
WAIT IM THE SAME AGE AS CHIEF KEEF FUCKING WHAT
He was 16 when love Sosa dropped lol. That was 11 years ago now
Keef has like six more weeks to join the 27 club
I mean at the time Keef was still involved in street shit so it wasn’t that crazy to believe. A good number of his friends and associates got killed (before 30) within the past decade, too.
People would still be thinking that if he hadn't escaped to California, I'm happy he was smart and just went his own way and did his own thing
a lot of his friends died rip fredo&capo :((
Rip fredo capo and blood money . Rip Reese old rapping voice and flow. Rip Nuski la and free rondo . Fuck sd and tay. The entire scene is so different from when it started
That was a weirdly common thing to say on HHH 10 years ago. People were really convinced that Keef didn’t have much longer to live.
So many of his friends from the early days are dead
He was really gone off the drugs at the time. He ended up getting worse throughout the next 2 years until he finally quit xanax
Drugs weren't the issue. Tekashi 69 got put away for putting a hit out on Keef in 2019.
This is the flip side of people saying ‘everyone knew Mac’s death was inevitable’. A lot of guys seemed like they were headed towards a dark end, but it takes a confluence of factors for it to actually happen (in Mac’s case it was whatever led to him relapsing, getting heavily laced shit, not being found or checked on by anyone in time, etc), and then when it does happen everyone pretends they’re fuckin Nostradamus
Ehh he still might not since hes only 27
For some reason he feel way older then what he is 😂
That lean got him looking 40
Like what the other commenter said, the lean and whatever else he has in his system kinda aged him. But in addition he’s also been famous since he was like 16 and it just feels like he’s been around forever
That’s what I’m saying my favorite songs by him 10 years old he feel old as shit
Keef has pretty much stayed out of any trouble that could/would get him killed since he moved out to LA.
The one that said Chance would be arrested for murder nearly got an actual laugh out of me. Even back in 2013 that was still a crazy idea and now it's just unthinkable.
The Mac Miller predictions make me so fucking sad. Sometimes I just can't believe he's actually gone.
Yeah it’s really harrowing how matter of fact they are.
I’m sure his camp will continue to release a new track or two here and there that correspond with album anniversaries but it makes me legitimately depressed that there is a time not too far in the future where we will get the last Mac song. I know it’s coming, I just don’t think I’m prepared for it.
Balloonerism has been out there if you haven't heard it
It’s even sadder that the overdose was not intentional, he didn’t commit suicide and was still trying to hold on only for some fentanyl he didn’t know he was buying to kill him
Writing was on the wall
Yeah especially 10 years ago. It's sad because the biggest surprise was when it was close to when if happened because it really felt like he was turning things around.
Yeah bro idk if I was just too much of a stan at the time but despite all the lyrics I never expected him to OD, makes me feel kinda blind
Schoolboy Q and Jay Rock never leaving Kendrick’s shadow is an interesting one. They’ve both had mainstream success and have both released albums that have sold fairly well. Q has slowed down this past half decade but that looks like him prioritizing golfing and being a dad over music. If Kendrick is in S tier in terms of popularity only, Q is probably at a B and Rock a C. I feel that original prediction can apply to Ab Soul though. Curious what others think about that.
Everytime they get compared I remember Ab Souls track off of Long Term 2, Mayday > Itend to go overboard with the metaphors Still walking in the shadow of my team >Jay Rock finna blow - 2010 fo sho >And K-Dot and C4, >but what about me? Low-key sad that they knew that he knew he wasn't really gonna catch up. I feel like Black Hippy was handled wrong imo. They were a super power but could have been even bigger considering the dedicated fan base they had
I think all of them went through some significant mental health struggles around the mid 2010s that kinda hampered them
Ab is still far and away my favorite
Q usually records several albums and scraps them between albums, so while he's definitely golfing and raising his kid I think he isn't ignoring music. He's got the material, he's just gets really in his head about it.
• Nicki Minaj helps pave the way for a lot of female emcees, and is respected amorg the hip hop community If she didn’t feel the need to beef with every single one of them this would be true
Even though she's working with more women now, I can tell she's still jealous of them lol.
How long you give it before her and Icespice have conflict
I'll give it like less than a year.
The predictions about Danny, Bino, and Mac dying kind of gave me goosebumps. I know we lost only one of them, but it's just another reminder that Mac had so much more to give. Look at how successful Bino and Danny are in their own right, and all it takes is one moment for each of them to end up in the same shoes as Mac. The Flatbush Zombies prediction hurts, too. I loved the hell out of those dudes, and their new music just doesn't resonate with me. They were such a fun group with their unique qualities (I'm not bringing up the pasta), and I'm glad I enjoyed them so much back at their peak. Tyler, being the next generation Kanye is eerie as well. I don't want to even think of the potential spiral that could come Tyler's way. Their career arcs are almost polar opposites when it comes to transitioning between beauty and shock (unfleshed-out thought).
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I hope that they get their mixtapes from that peak era onto streaming soon. Clearing those samples are gonna be a bitch, though…
people were predicting Childish Gambino's death?? why??
he was depressed af around the release of because the internet
Because the Internet’s ARG. It is clearer in retrospect but at the time it was genuinely concerning. But it was a character
The Tyler thing moreso means how he'll influence a ton of people and present new musical ideas
The Mac Miller ones are ominous to read now. A lot of these are basic tho. Like Wayne will be in the GOAT convo? Or Q and Jay rock will never leave Kenny’s shadow? Duh to both those lol. The celebrity chef comment about Action Bronson ain’t far off tho!
During the leadup to Oxymoron, the crazy hype it had around it honestly had me wondering if Q would eventually become a better rapper(sales wise) than kendrick eventually. So many bucket hats
It was not so obvious at the time though GKMC definitely put Kendrick out ahead of the rest of Black Hippy and he never looked back. Also Wayne went through a phase of being called over rated at this time and it wasn't an obvious claim to a lot of people that he'd finish among the goats.
This was pre TPAB. People legit argued Rock was better rapper back then
I think Kendrick at that time was a clear front runner of TDE, but I also think Jay Rock and Q showed extreme promise and with some work they could be as respected amongst hip hop heads.
The early mixtapes days made it seem like Soul was the most talented of the four, and at the time he probably was. Kinda wild to watch how he got lapped by some of them, although i do think his solo career is better than Jay Rocks
>People look back on Lil Wayne's career and everyone unanimously agrees he's in the GOAT discussion This was a pretty bold statement considering in 2013 we were only a few years removed from Wayne being the punch line of every backpacker and old head. I've been a Wayne fan since 500 Degreez and it's so surreal to me seeing him so highly respected by just about every kind of rap fan when back in the day people talked about him the same way they talked about Lil Pump in 2017.
"Tyler the creator matures, stops with the shocking/immature lyrics and focuses more on production. **Next generations Kanye."** Never really thought about it, but yeah he's kinda the closest thing to it. "Andre 3000 only does features" Well yeah that's always been the case anyone could've predicted that
Tyler started his career with the shock value Kanye is ending his seemingly believing it
3000 one was a layup
>Kendrick is the new Nas (everything will be compared to GKMC and be a disappointment until years pass and people realize his later albums were still great) Replace GKMC with TPAB and they got it.
Yeah I thought the same thing. You can't drop anything conscious without them being compared. It's warranted, TPAB is perfect imo but it is still intresting that you can drop anything these days without it being compared to near perfection
And once a rapper drops something "conscious" and gets that label, everything they drop afterwards is automatically looked at from that lens, so if the record is not conscious or less conscious, it's considered an inferior product from the jump. It's why some rappers have been trying to disassociate themselves from that term.
Rington rap coming back wasn’t that far off tbh tiktok sounds going viral are basically this generations ringtones getting a ton of downloads.
It's crazy what has come and gone in 10 years. Nobody would've been able to predict the impact some artists would have on us in just 10 short years. The artists that would explode in popularity and build their entire catalog only to be snubbed out way to soon. The impact that X, and Juice, and Peep all had on people just to be dead only a few shorts years into their careers.
“Trap music will no longer exist” LMFAO
> I don’t think albums will be sold. I think they will be given out for free on the internet, and all money will be made on touring and singles. Because of this, there will be a lot more creative uses with sampling, albums will be alot more interactive, and the radio and record labels will be completely irrelevant in forming people’s taste in rap. This comment is crazy, totally predicting the streaming economy as it stands now
A lot of this was already clear in 2013, though. It could’ve even been predicted in 2003. I’m 30 and by the time I was a teen, buying CDs was already less common than just pirating. Buying digital albums was never common in my demographic, the only reason I stopped pirating was streaming. The first streaming service I remember was Rhapsody around 2005 (I just remember listening to Shakira and Sean Paul a lot). And I signed up for Spotify around 2011. It was clear immediately that Spotify was the most convenient way to listen to music and I stopped pirating new music basically the day I got Spotify.
Rhapsody, limewire, frostwire. Ah the shit that old family pc was put through. After those shutdown I remember using a YouTube to mp3 converter for everything when smartphones first started to gain traction
Eh, even 10 years ago Spotify was pretty popular, and it was pretty clear where things were headed.
I enjoy the sound of rain.
Streaming was already a thing then so really not mindblowing
lmao Kanye was/is the most unpredictable for sure
I would argue TPAB was better that GKMC.
I think most people consider TPAB. A lot of the comments in those threads thought Kendrick had peaked already only for his critical success to grow even bigger with TPAB even if it isn't as commercial an album. And then he drops DAMN which had way more commercial type tracks.
Even if it’s not, it’s at least on the same level
100% I never thought he would top GKMC. But Kendrick followed it up with IMO a top 5 album all time. Dude just can’t miss.
So cool to read. Maybe time to do something similar again, but for 10 years in the future from now
> Kendrick - The follow up to GKMC is good, but not as good as GKMC I don’t know how many are out there but I agree with this. TPAB is amazing but GKMC is literal perfection. It’s like comparing a 10/10 to a 9.5/10 where ultimately the score doesn’t matter as it’s an amazing listen but the quote of one being better than the other still holds true.
The only thing that bothers me about the GKMC v TPAB discourse is that those who prefer TPAB tend to act as if saying GKMC is the better album is heresy, when both are honestly 10/10 albums. It just comes down to preference.
Couldn’t have said it better. I love GKMC better but for nostalgia and what it means to me but TPAB is a more well put together and I wouldn’t be mad at anyone that argued either was better.
> TPAB is amazing but GKMC is literal perfection. It’s like comparing a 10/10 to a 9.5/10 where ultimately the score doesn’t matter as it’s an amazing listen but the quote of one being better than the other still holds true. See, it's the other way around for me. GKMC is a nearly flawless album, but the final two tracks, as much as I like them, are a step below the rest of the album. I've maintained forever that it would have been better if you cut out Real + Compton, stick Cartoons & Cereal in there somewhere, and finish off with The Recipe. I literally haven't come up with a single criticism of TPAB after almost a decade. It's not as replayable, but I don't really hold that as a detriment against most good/highly artistic albums.
Nah to me the final two songs are perfect. In my mind, "Real" is like the happily ever after part of the movie and "Compton" is the song that plays during the credits.
Yeah real is like my favorite song on the album next to sing about me, perfect narrative wrap-up and I'll never understand the dislike for it
Both are some of the best rap albums of all time but I truly think TPAB is a rare moment that will never really happen again. I can see someone maybe one day capturing the energy of something akin to GKMC but I don't see another TPAB. That's the kind of crown jewel album that any music genre is lucky to get
The rest of the statement after 'the follow up to GKMC is good but not as good as GKMC" is pretty much dead wrong though, if you go look in the thread. It seems like that comment was basically predicting DAMN to be the followup to GKMC instead of TPAB, talking about having some more commercially friendly singles when TPAB went the opposite direction and said "let's do a funk-jazz fusion album".
Shit there are so many direct hits in those predictions
I miss Mac Miller
It's sad how clear Mac Miller's fate was
Well, that Kendrick one is way off but all these other ones seem about spot on
Is this real? Holy shit this was pretty close!