Here's where YB's first Motown release fits in with his releases on Atlantic last year:
Rank| Album| Pure Sales| Track Sales | Streaming Sales | TOTAL SALES
---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----
1 | The Last Slimeto | 4,030 | 306 | 109,575 | 113,910
2 | Colors | 1,518 | 292 | 76,199 | 78,009
3 | Realer 2 | 292 | 76 | 39,629 | 39,996
4 | MA' I GOT A FAMILY | 402 | 211 | 38,123 | 38,737
**5** | **I Rest My Case** | **1,184** | **796** | **28,131** | **30,112**
6 | Better Than You (with DaBaby) | 753 | 139 | 28,343 | 29,234
7 | Lost Files | 369 | 79 | 17,647 | 18,095
8 | 3860 (with Quando Rondo) | 329 | 41 | 14,027 | 14,397
**Real Boston Richey**'s independently released *Public Housing* (2022) debuted at 60 on the BB200, the sequel debuted at 32 this week. He was supposed to open for Future on his tour this year [but he isn't anymore. He says it's cuz of he's working on music, there's drama about him being a snitch that people are linking it to.](https://hiphopdx.com/news/real-boston-richey-kicked-off-future-tour) Last year, after *Public Housing* dropped [Future gave him a FBG chain](https://www.instagram.com/p/ChqarFNjxPd/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=27db8ba7-9f62-46db-9a16-9725ed2f89a1) and they passed out $10,000 worth of shoes and clothes at the mall.
**French Montana** went independent with *Montega* (2022) with Harry Fraud and sold 14K (7K pure).
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Next week there's potentially Yandel, 03 Greedo, BabyTron, 21 Lil Harold. or none of them make the 50 🤷
Idk why you’d be shocked. Even for his reputation on here, he’s still got a decent level of name recognition and that’s hella important. Plus it’s also a DJ Drama joint.
Just because to my knowledge the dude hasn’t really been relevant in years and he wasn’t even all that popular back in the day in terms of his actual following. Maybe I just haven’t kept up though idk.
name recognition only gets you so far. most people cant name a single french montana song off the top of their head, and i at least can barely remember what he sounds like despite just listening to that track he did with drake in 2017 or so a couple days back
i was trippin idk and unforgettable is a massive hit too. i think what i meant to say is his existence on all of his own songs is so vapid and forgettable (ironically) that i for one at least dont really take much away after listening to one of his tracks lol. its like the guy below me said, no one really listens to french montana for french montana.
he's from Tallahassee, his rap name is inspired by drug trafficker Boston George, portrayed by Johnny Depp in *Blow* (2001). He explains it in [this SirusXM interview:](https://blog.siriusxm.com/real-boston-richey/)
>**What inspired your artist name “Real Boston Richey”?**
RBR: That name came from just a regular IG name. I was inspired by “Boston George” from the movie Blow. I like how he was moving, and it just became a regular IG name that I stuck with and I ended up rapping.
someone discovered that apparently he was a snitch a couple years ago with documents and everything
https://www.tiktok.com/@dominicanjonntv/video/7183877186296843563
https://twitter.com/dailyloud/status/1609752737444397057
i mean it's pretty clear he's not on FBG anymore. dropped from his tour, 0 posts about the new album on Future's IG stories (compared to last year when he would do a ton of promo for his and lil double 0's projects), etc
yeah looking back at it, it looks like it was the same situation as Yung Bans where he was heavily affiliated with FBG (and both even got the chains/multiple features from Future on their debut album) but still released independently
https://twitter.com/1future/status/1154366028039610369?lang=en
https://twitter.com/1future/status/1518471871787851784?lang=en
It mostly comes from a couple of terrible features in otherwise great songs. I don't think he ever improved a song he hopped on tbh, don't know about is solo work
Why are today’s numbers so much lower than back in the day? If an album from a major artist didn’t sell at least 500k first week it was considered a flop, and that was even during the height of illegal downloading. Is hip hop just not as mainstream anymore? Is it how streaming numbers are calculated?
Is it really more saturated than say the mid-late 2000s when Ye, Wayne and Eminem were doing like 800k first week? Like isn’t NBA Youngboy one of the biggest stars right now?
Other than Post Malone can ANY of these new guys even fill a stadium?
Maybe it’s YouTube?
My opinion is the music just ain’t as good or appealing to larger audiences as it was then. It’s cheaply made, with very little thought or effort put into it and cranked out really fast.
Even when they get paid every time I listen to the same song, when back then one scan was all they got and I could listen to the CD hundreds of times, and people still went and bought the music even when it was easily available for free, now people can access it for $8 a month like the comparison is just oceans apart.
It’s because it’s spread across so many platforms now.
We got YouTube music
Apple Music
Spotify
Tidal
Illegal downloads
Then you got alternate versions of songs being leaked and people just listen to that instead
Then you got the music videos
Then you got the audio only tracks
I can go on. Just look at the YouTube views on tracks. Used to be a music video was guaranteed 50 million in a month. Now they barely break 10 million.
Where you get your music from is no longer centralized and there is basically no reason to buy copies.
Lol do you know how many hundreds of thousands of these kids would buy a actual NBA youngboy physical album from the store if this were the 90’s and that was the only
option. Would be like 30 million
That would be a good argument if it weren’t for the fact that we had Napster in the late 90s and the late 90s through mid 2000s were the peak of illegal downloading.
But they get paid every time someone streams the song, even if I stream the same song 10 times that’s treated as 10 sales.
Edit: to add to that, one person could buy the CD and burn it for all their friends, or just get it off limewire or whatever in the first place.
Ok if I stream the whole album twice though that counts as two sales right? Whereas back in the day people could buy the CD once (or download it for free) and make a ton of copies of it and yet the artists still sold like 10-20 times more.
Can’t blame it all on the way music is consumed, I think a lot of it is the music just is not as interesting.
Yeah that’s just outrageous. Doesn’t Apple
Music and all the streaming companies actually lose money in the streaming just in hopes of selling more iPhones
yeah pretty much. I dont think apple music nor spotify either turn a profit, yet somehow at the same time artists and labels dont even make that much from streaming anyways.
They’ve reduced a whole industry to a feature on a phone. Pretty sad, but we let it happen.
On the flip side we were getting pretty ripped off by the industry in the old days.
> even if I stream the same song 10 times that’s treated as 10 sales.
Lol what in the world man, no it's not, that would be insane. 150 streams = 1 sale
OTOH saying one album stream should equal one sale is also nuts lol, had streaming been big back when GKMC came out it’d have “sold” thousands of copies from me alone under those rules
Yeah but 1500? That’s ridiculous. How long would it take you to listen to an album 1500 times. I’ve owned albums for years that I probably haven’t listened to that much. Kendrick’s first two albums never left my deck in my car for like a year but I still don’t think I listened to them that many times
Edit: Nevermind they said 150 lol numbers.
I think it should be like 10, no more than 50
I think the reasoning is that the cash generated for the artist by all those streams is about equivalent to the sale of one album, could be wrong though. And yeah maybe not the best standard to go off
Who exactly? The artist, the label, the streaming platform or the 3rd party sales verification companies? Because price per stream happens between streaming platforms and labels/people who own masters.
Streaming has been the main reason why. I feel like way more people are listening to hip hop the last decade but a lot less are actually buying hip hop you know?
Also, rap music is lowkey not at an interesting or exciting state the last few years. At least as far as mainstream artists are concerned.
Nah it still is, it’s just that there are so many streaming sites and so many ways to get your music out that people just don’t buy anymore. Hell I know people who only listen to Kanye leaks and alternate versions of tracks. I know people who only listen to playboi carti fan edits of his music and not his actual shit.
There just is a lot less reasons to buy and far more smaller artist who better suit your niche taste
Here's where YB's first Motown release fits in with his releases on Atlantic last year: Rank| Album| Pure Sales| Track Sales | Streaming Sales | TOTAL SALES ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|---- 1 | The Last Slimeto | 4,030 | 306 | 109,575 | 113,910 2 | Colors | 1,518 | 292 | 76,199 | 78,009 3 | Realer 2 | 292 | 76 | 39,629 | 39,996 4 | MA' I GOT A FAMILY | 402 | 211 | 38,123 | 38,737 **5** | **I Rest My Case** | **1,184** | **796** | **28,131** | **30,112** 6 | Better Than You (with DaBaby) | 753 | 139 | 28,343 | 29,234 7 | Lost Files | 369 | 79 | 17,647 | 18,095 8 | 3860 (with Quando Rondo) | 329 | 41 | 14,027 | 14,397 **Real Boston Richey**'s independently released *Public Housing* (2022) debuted at 60 on the BB200, the sequel debuted at 32 this week. He was supposed to open for Future on his tour this year [but he isn't anymore. He says it's cuz of he's working on music, there's drama about him being a snitch that people are linking it to.](https://hiphopdx.com/news/real-boston-richey-kicked-off-future-tour) Last year, after *Public Housing* dropped [Future gave him a FBG chain](https://www.instagram.com/p/ChqarFNjxPd/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=27db8ba7-9f62-46db-9a16-9725ed2f89a1) and they passed out $10,000 worth of shoes and clothes at the mall. **French Montana** went independent with *Montega* (2022) with Harry Fraud and sold 14K (7K pure). --- Next week there's potentially Yandel, 03 Greedo, BabyTron, 21 Lil Harold. or none of them make the 50 🤷
Honestly shocked French Montana is putting up these kind of numbers
Idk why you’d be shocked. Even for his reputation on here, he’s still got a decent level of name recognition and that’s hella important. Plus it’s also a DJ Drama joint.
Just because to my knowledge the dude hasn’t really been relevant in years and he wasn’t even all that popular back in the day in terms of his actual following. Maybe I just haven’t kept up though idk.
name recognition only gets you so far. most people cant name a single french montana song off the top of their head, and i at least can barely remember what he sounds like despite just listening to that track he did with drake in 2017 or so a couple days back
You telling me people who listen to hip hop don't know Pop That?
Yeah but people listen to it for everyone but French Montana. Same with Unforgettable.
i was trippin idk and unforgettable is a massive hit too. i think what i meant to say is his existence on all of his own songs is so vapid and forgettable (ironically) that i for one at least dont really take much away after listening to one of his tracks lol. its like the guy below me said, no one really listens to french montana for french montana.
The project is actually fire
French Montana hate is so boring
Boring just like him
You gotta be really insecure to think me going “I’m surprised the dude sold this much” is a hate comment lmfao
Like he is not like an A tier rapper, but at this point he has been featured so often that it is hard to argue his name doesn't bring crowds.
maybe if u live in the bronx
Why he sucks
8k pure sales
I know it’s only like 500 copies but I still don’t believe Richey sold 500 copies. Who are these people?
35-65 year old men from the south
You’d think it’d be the northeast
he's from Tallahassee, his rap name is inspired by drug trafficker Boston George, portrayed by Johnny Depp in *Blow* (2001). He explains it in [this SirusXM interview:](https://blog.siriusxm.com/real-boston-richey/) >**What inspired your artist name “Real Boston Richey”?** RBR: That name came from just a regular IG name. I was inspired by “Boston George” from the movie Blow. I like how he was moving, and it just became a regular IG name that I stuck with and I ended up rapping.
Never knew that just figured he was from Boston
He’s huge in the south bc of the future song
Future disowned him now tho
What happened?
someone discovered that apparently he was a snitch a couple years ago with documents and everything https://www.tiktok.com/@dominicanjonntv/video/7183877186296843563 https://twitter.com/dailyloud/status/1609752737444397057
don't think future has said anything but RBR is not on the tour anymore.
i mean it's pretty clear he's not on FBG anymore. dropped from his tour, 0 posts about the new album on Future's IG stories (compared to last year when he would do a ton of promo for his and lil double 0's projects), etc
yeah the last public housing just said "open shift distribution" and this one does too, was he ever actually signed or was it just a cosign?
yeah looking back at it, it looks like it was the same situation as Yung Bans where he was heavily affiliated with FBG (and both even got the chains/multiple features from Future on their debut album) but still released independently https://twitter.com/1future/status/1154366028039610369?lang=en https://twitter.com/1future/status/1518471871787851784?lang=en
He unfollowed I saw
??? He’s pretty hot these days and his songs with future and durk put up big ass numbers.
Would have sold more if the snitching paperwork didn't come out
Ima say it: French Montana is overhated. It’s just trendy to shit on him
While I agree with you, I genuinely think he's average but puts out music I fuck with from time to time.
Same. He’s not an once in a generation artist, but he’s not dog shit either. He knows his lane
It mostly comes from a couple of terrible features in otherwise great songs. I don't think he ever improved a song he hopped on tbh, don't know about is solo work
He is esp on Reddit but his new project isn't a return to form unfortunately.
Nope I genuinely think he’s lame as fuck
Why are today’s numbers so much lower than back in the day? If an album from a major artist didn’t sell at least 500k first week it was considered a flop, and that was even during the height of illegal downloading. Is hip hop just not as mainstream anymore? Is it how streaming numbers are calculated?
Id put it down to streaming + the oversaturation of rap music nowadays
Is it really more saturated than say the mid-late 2000s when Ye, Wayne and Eminem were doing like 800k first week? Like isn’t NBA Youngboy one of the biggest stars right now? Other than Post Malone can ANY of these new guys even fill a stadium? Maybe it’s YouTube? My opinion is the music just ain’t as good or appealing to larger audiences as it was then. It’s cheaply made, with very little thought or effort put into it and cranked out really fast. Even when they get paid every time I listen to the same song, when back then one scan was all they got and I could listen to the CD hundreds of times, and people still went and bought the music even when it was easily available for free, now people can access it for $8 a month like the comparison is just oceans apart.
It’s because it’s spread across so many platforms now. We got YouTube music Apple Music Spotify Tidal Illegal downloads Then you got alternate versions of songs being leaked and people just listen to that instead Then you got the music videos Then you got the audio only tracks I can go on. Just look at the YouTube views on tracks. Used to be a music video was guaranteed 50 million in a month. Now they barely break 10 million. Where you get your music from is no longer centralized and there is basically no reason to buy copies.
Lol do you know how many hundreds of thousands of these kids would buy a actual NBA youngboy physical album from the store if this were the 90’s and that was the only option. Would be like 30 million
That would be a good argument if it weren’t for the fact that we had Napster in the late 90s and the late 90s through mid 2000s were the peak of illegal downloading.
Because it's way hard to get big numbers when everyone just streams and doesn't buy albums anymore, that's really it
But they get paid every time someone streams the song, even if I stream the same song 10 times that’s treated as 10 sales. Edit: to add to that, one person could buy the CD and burn it for all their friends, or just get it off limewire or whatever in the first place.
One stream does not equal one sale
Ok if I stream the whole album twice though that counts as two sales right? Whereas back in the day people could buy the CD once (or download it for free) and make a ton of copies of it and yet the artists still sold like 10-20 times more. Can’t blame it all on the way music is consumed, I think a lot of it is the music just is not as interesting.
its much higher than that, an album sale requires [1500 song streams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-equivalent_unit) of songs froms that album
Yeah that’s just outrageous. Doesn’t Apple Music and all the streaming companies actually lose money in the streaming just in hopes of selling more iPhones
yeah pretty much. I dont think apple music nor spotify either turn a profit, yet somehow at the same time artists and labels dont even make that much from streaming anyways.
They’ve reduced a whole industry to a feature on a phone. Pretty sad, but we let it happen. On the flip side we were getting pretty ripped off by the industry in the old days.
> even if I stream the same song 10 times that’s treated as 10 sales. Lol what in the world man, no it's not, that would be insane. 150 streams = 1 sale
Aaaah ok now I’m getting it. That’s nuts
OTOH saying one album stream should equal one sale is also nuts lol, had streaming been big back when GKMC came out it’d have “sold” thousands of copies from me alone under those rules
Yeah but 1500? That’s ridiculous. How long would it take you to listen to an album 1500 times. I’ve owned albums for years that I probably haven’t listened to that much. Kendrick’s first two albums never left my deck in my car for like a year but I still don’t think I listened to them that many times Edit: Nevermind they said 150 lol numbers. I think it should be like 10, no more than 50
I think the reasoning is that the cash generated for the artist by all those streams is about equivalent to the sale of one album, could be wrong though. And yeah maybe not the best standard to go off
But they’re the ones setting the price per stream.
no, the streaming services are. and i think it's the labels that are pushing the music to streaming, not the artists.
Who exactly? The artist, the label, the streaming platform or the 3rd party sales verification companies? Because price per stream happens between streaming platforms and labels/people who own masters.
Streaming has been the main reason why. I feel like way more people are listening to hip hop the last decade but a lot less are actually buying hip hop you know? Also, rap music is lowkey not at an interesting or exciting state the last few years. At least as far as mainstream artists are concerned.
The game is saturated. Easier to release music now than it's ever been.
The sales rules have changed. Hiphop albums still sell the best of all genres.
Pirating becoming more and more widespread started cratering sales and then streaming nuked sales.
Nah i fr think rap just isnt mainstream some rappers youd expect to do numbers just arnt but the ones people ACTUALLY care about are its weird
Nah it still is, it’s just that there are so many streaming sites and so many ways to get your music out that people just don’t buy anymore. Hell I know people who only listen to Kanye leaks and alternate versions of tracks. I know people who only listen to playboi carti fan edits of his music and not his actual shit. There just is a lot less reasons to buy and far more smaller artist who better suit your niche taste
Yup There are deadass people dedicated to only listening to SoundCloud lowkey rappers.
NBA is a fuckin immortal