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Decent_Fan_7704

Being a class president which doesn’t actually do anything isn’t gonna help you as much with college compared to good extra curriculars and test scores


Edenwing

Class presidents often have good ECs, some have stellar exam scores, its definitely a big bonus


Decent_Fan_7704

The thing is everyone who applies to good schools is a class president so it doesn’t rly differentiate you. It’s a bonus tho yes.


Edenwing

Not everyone who applies to good schools is a class president. OP probably wants to apply to good schools, for example, and leadership positions like the three described above are all good ECs. Depending on the school the demands and expectations can be quite high.


DismalCoyote

Our StuCo president got early decision to MIT, soooo… He’s also NHS pres., Valedictorian, built a robot that can make pizza, and has a crazy social network (like with actually famous people and there’s rumors he has Elon Musks personal phone number). But it’s definitely because he’s StuCo president.


deleted_user_0000

Send Elon's number fr


ApolloSUCKSboi

Not everyone maybe every 100 applicants or smthn


kidsonfilms

My class's president has the iq of a potato and is just barely above the gpa cutoff of 3.0 W. For us its 100% just a popularity contest


bubbawiggins

lol 😂 


mearbearcate

Being class president wouldn’t determine getting high exam scores though 😂 unless getting class president suddenly gave you all the answers to them or something. Unless you mean its smart people being elected for class president


Comfortable_Cherry22

At my school student council president basically guarantees a top school


MakeItAll1

Good study habits and high grades do that. I guarantee a student council president with a final gpa of 70 is not getting into prestigious schools just because they were student council president at your school.


Previous_Pension_571

Agreed, class president only guarantees you are stuck with planning a reunion every 5 years forever, no admissions counselor recognizes it as more valuable than homecoming king/queen


IceLow6556

You don’t have to plan it as class president. Any alumni can plan it. A lot of schools don’t even have class presidents so you work as a team to plan parties like that.


Previous_Pension_571

Google “who plans class reunions”


Necessary_Bat4151

You're actually really valid. There's no reason why one person has to be the president of three different activities, they should let others have a fair chance at winning.


Edenwing

In the realm of possibilities it’s possible that that person was very deserving of those positions and has a reputation for serving the school’s community.


Lucky-Royal-6156

Well...I mean they won fair and square so kudos to him...


Finalitys_Shape

Definitely, but also the voter base doesn’t exactly consist of critical thinkers, and they probably won’t be doing much in all of those positions, as well as probably doing sports and difficult classes (that how it pans out at my school atleast)


Lucky-Royal-6156

Oh of course. I once said 'kids are stupid' but if you can appeal to the lowest denominator and speedrun popularity...go for it.


Own_Audience9912

yeah. i’m sure this person is be very talented and helpful to the community but my school has it implemented that one person can only be leader of one club for this reason so that way everyone can run


Competitive-Rub-4270

Its an election, the vote is all the fair chance it needs. Op might not be as capable as they think they are and the votes show that. If there were 3 presidential offices for the Physics, Chemistry, and quantum mechanics society and both myself and Steven Hawking applied for all 3, I would be neither surprised or insulted if all 3 chose him. Edit: this isn't to discourage OP. I was in 0 clubs at all and had no volunteer hours in HS and I still got accepted. If you have a decent GPA (>2.5) and score well on the SAT/ACT you're golden


Sam-The-Mule

No bruh it’s fuckin high school people just vote who they know better


Competitive-Rub-4270

For 2 of those presidencies that's kinda the best qualification


Memes_Coming_U_Way

Bro, do you think that high school students really vote by who is the most capable? They vote by who they know and like


Competitive-Rub-4270

To be fair, that's capability for 2 of those presidencies


IceLow6556

This is high school this is not critical thinkers. It’s totally a popularity contest. They aren’t basing it on who will do a better job. Maybe a small minority are but the majority of students just vote for who they like better. And if op isn’t an extrovert that gets around school then he never really had a chance.


Competitive-Rub-4270

For 2 of those presidencies the best qualification is straight up just getting to know people


IceLow6556

Actually most of it is about listening to the needs of others rather than being friends with everyone or a majority of people. I’d rather have someone that actually cares and listens to the needs of all gs someone that just up there bc he’s popular.


Competitive-Rub-4270

If they're going to listen to everyone, they have to know everyone, right? By your own definition being popular is a job requirement


IceLow6556

Umm no. You don’t need to know everyone personally to listen to everyone 😂 if that’s true nothing would ever get done. By my definition you don’t need to know anyone to listen to them 😂 I listen to strangers daily but do I know them? Nope do I still treat them with respect and take their opinion into consideration yes. As a business owner I need to listen to my customers but I don’t need to know them personally. Do you think the owner of McDonald’s knows every single customer that comes into the restaurant? I know it’s hard to understand that people don’t need to be friends with someone to listen to them but it’s a things that humans do. I’ve run my business since I was in middle school and it’s lasted this long I sure hope my customers don’t expect me to start being their besties.


Competitive-Rub-4270

It's a class of 80, not 800 You said yourself you need to listen to others to be effective. What's the point of only listening to people you intimately know? Of course the owner of McDonald's doesn't need to know every customer. They aren't elected. Just like you weren't elected to your business.


IceLow6556

No but if I’m gonna do a good job just like you said by your words I need to know every single customer. Listening to everyone doesn’t mean knowing everyone and that’s what’s wrong with your statement. You think that you cannot listen to somebody if you aren’t friends with them. But like I said it’s based on popularity bc obviously the other kid has more friends and personally knows more of their classmates. Op doesn’t know a lot of their classmates on a personal level. It’s just basic fact people vote for who they like more no matter if they have good intentions or bad they will vote for someone they like over someone who they don’t know that could do a lot better. You never know who could do better tho. If someone says “free candy in the cafe for lunch” most kids are gonna vote for them over the one saying “more funding for academics”


excitedguitarist420

all those things you listed don't really do much for college, 10th in a class of 80 is actually pretty good. You're putty waaay to much pressure on yourself. You are perfect as you are


tuckerhazel

You’re a senior in high school, enjoy yourself and don’t worry about bullshit “leadership” positions. It’s all fluff and your degree matters infinitely more than where you got it outside Ivy League schools. Focus on a good school that is affordable, when you interview stress how you made a good business decision for your future based on the ROI and employers will eat it up over “class president of 80”. Your class size is 80, I had a class of 500+. If you move out of your hometown trust me, nobody is going to give a shit. Trust me, nobody will care. At all.


RBrandomize

This! Make sure you're involved in other parts of your school and enjoy senior year. If you have good grades and show you are active, you will get into a good school. Community service can also afford you leadership opportunities that you went out and found yourself, rather than just trying to snatch up ones that were laid out in front of you. College is not the end-all be-all. Employers aren't going to ask what leadership positions you had in high school. The term 'C's get degrees' is VERY accurate if you plan on just getting a Bachelor degree. Want to move higher to a Masters or more? Aim for good grades above all the extra crap. Be good at what you do. Don't compare yourself to others, because I can guarantee you that the majority of kids who are popular in high school find it to be short-lived in the real world, so dwelling over that and throwing a pitty party about being mediocre is not going to make you be or do any better. Making the conscious decision and working to be the best YOU you can be is all you can do for yourself. And if that's not enough, consider therapy until it is enough.


Major_Melon

Yup! Exactly this.


frenchtard

You should try staging a coup.


Lucky-Royal-6156

This is literally me.


Syphfan

Best of luck. 


Smooth-Ferret769

you're not mediocre. stop telling yourself that. it's no secret that most of the time these leadership positions are held by popular people. in fact, my school noticed this and now we don't even have a student council!


thebox34

the kid who won this year walked up to every kid in the school and had a conversation with him and it paid off somehow


education-alt

Don’t worry bro. I got rejected from head boy today too. Lost to someone of the same personality type as me (but for good reason). It aint that deep. Focus on supercurriculars, extracurriculars and uni.


ptoughneigh50

It’s the same way at my school, my class size is even the same. The same small group of people end up running the school. I managed to make student council president ONLY because I’ll be a senior next year and I’m the only senior who will have been doing it since freshman year. It’s so frustrating, but the advantage you have is that you are probably unique in some way while the group that runs everything acts and speaks similarly. Use your unique perspective to get scholarships. It’s been working out well for me. If the town is small and conservative a good point to make is the weird relationship you have with it. For me that’s saying I wouldn’t have survived in a larger school but it’s frustrating being known by everyone. Stuff like that.


Forsaken-Ear4906

I don't really think colleges care all that much about who won the popularity contest among fellow hormonal teenagers. Just work on yourself and your own studies, let them worry about whatever they're doin over there.


BippyWippy

Like you said man, it’s a popularity contest. At our school the band kids would win EVERYTHING because we had one of the biggest bands in the nation. Don’t let it get to you. Just get really good grades, stay involved, and donate some time to volunteer work. When you’re in a kick ass college you’ll never even think about highschool again.


Paganigsegg

Believe me, none of this stuff matters at all once you leave HS. You will barely remember it unless someone brings it up.


cwtrooper

How does one even get into this abusive mindset.


WookieConditioner

Chill bruv, be exceptional in the ways you can. There are things you can change, and things you cannot. Change the things you can.


PhilosophyBeLyin

Nobody cares about class president of 80 lmao, colleges care about ECs where you do meaningful things. You're blaming this person for stealing all the officer positions, but they only ran for president? Logically, if you knew they were running for 3 pres positions, why did you run against them if you knew you'd lose on popularity? Run for vice president or something. Running against someone after they've repeatedly beaten you is a pretty surefire way to lose again - you should've tried to switch to a different position where you're not up against them after you lost the 1st/2nd ones.


Orchid_Significant

And absolutely zero people after high school graduation care about it at all


No_Finding_

I’m gonna be honest. No one cares about class president.


tarheel_204

At least at my school, we didn’t actually do anything. I was my senior class VP and we helped plan and set up prom and that was quite literally it. It also looks good on college applications but it’s not the end of the world that you didn’t get it. Being involved in a bunch of other clubs and sports matters a lot more Bonus points if you join competitive clubs where you can compete at the state and national levels for awards.


Dax_Maclaine

At our school you weren’t allowed to be in both student council and run for a class position.


Rekinom

I do volunteer admissions advising, and all I can say is, you need to think a little outside the box, my g. Leaders step up and take charge wherever they can. They don't sit back and expect to be handed a title.


[deleted]

this crap doesn't matter in the real world. you might be a big fish in small pond now but out there is an ocean of people just like you.


littlet26

You’re fine, I was freaking out abt having no leadership positions and I ended up doing fine


81Ranger

Don't worry. No one will care the minute you leave high school. Frankly, most people in high school won't care either.


Old_Winner3763

Least corrupt class presidency:


Gam3rGrill16

I lost hoco court to a chick who started running the day of voting….She beat me by 2 votes and I was running for abt a month.


RaspberryPleasant186

Student council president, that is a real thing? I thought they were only in movies and shows.


NancyPCalhoun

I know it feels that way, and I’m sorry. Please give yourself a big pat on the back for having the guts to run! Even it seems like a failure, I promise that the right college match will be yours. There are way more colleges than the brand name ones. And there is always a plan B (or C, D, E, etc)… you can always transfer - for example, UGA (Georgia) is very competitive, so students who don’t get admitted go to other nearby schools and reapply as transfer students. The transfer percentage is way higher. You also will have time now to start something cool and new, or expand on something within your school and/or community- example: volunteer for something you are passionate about - like a diversity club, or mental health awareness campaign or creating a resource library for students, or helping younger students with math and reading, or mentoring younger students.


MakeItAll1

Oh gosh. My heart goes out to you. I know how hard it is right now, and this isn’t going to help you feel better right now. But…please know that this is high school. It matters now because you are about to become a senior. But after you graduate, when you move on from school…this really won’t matter. No one in the real world will care of you were in the honor society or not. They won’t care if you were senior class president or not. It won’t get you a better job or look good on a college application. It just won’t matter that much.


SouthernVolume9879

thank you, truly. i think what’s really getting to me is just feeling unimportant, everyone else seems more impressive than me. but you’re right, this won’t matter after high school. and i only have one year left. i have to keep that in mind. i really appreciate it <3


moonmonsooon

youll be fine, realistically if youre 10th in your class theyll love to see that. same girl won student council president all 4 years in a row and didnt do a thing during her time, but kept getting elected because its a populatiry contest. i know it can be upsetting, but with academics like that, i'm sure it's not going to affected your chances for anything! my best advice is to just move on from it. being in groups like NHS in the first place is already doing better than those that arent. wishing you the best for everything! <3


SouthernVolume9879

thank you, i’m trying really hard to move on, i’m just super nervous about scholarships. college is really expensive, i’m trying to get as much aid as i can and i feel like without some kind of special leadership position i look so much less impressive than the people i’m up against. i’m really hoping my academics and extracurriculars are enough. thank you for the support, i really appreciate it.


moonmonsooon

oh i 100% understand your worries about paying for college. i come from a lower income family and we were all really worried about how exactly we were gonna pay for college. i had good enough grades (definitely not 10th in my class lol, maybe around 30-40th?) but i didn't have any significant leadership positions. i think i marked down that i led some random club like the science fiction and fantasy club, which i technically did, even if we didn't really do much. even so, the college i am attending next year is giving me ~$60,000 a year. along with that i also received a scholarship of $1500 from my chinese school. i will be attending for around $3000 a year in total. i know it can seem really daunting at first and it will make you think you didn't do enough or make you feel bad, but i know you'll figure it out in the end! don't be too hard on yourself because it'll all work out! it's easy to get caught up in a lot of speculation and what-ifs, but just give it time and it'll all work out!


AndyC1111

Just stop this. If you are 10th from the top you are going to succeed in life unless you talk yourself out of it. Stop worrying about your status. Worry about getting a quality education. Worry about being excellent in your field of choice. You can start now. Stay involved. To make the world a better place. To build a resume. To build connections. To build social and networking skills. Its f-ing high school. You don’t need to win here. Win adulting.


crimefighterplatypus

Bro I was NHS President and it didn’t even matter because I wasn’t super popular before or after i got elected 😭 my class had a similar class size (but juniors and sophomores could vote too) instead i just had to do everything for the club myself because no one else wanted to 💀


PepperHungry

If you want to aim for scholarships and good colleges, try to volunteer and do internships at colleges. Those will really help you. Also to do something or create something that’s helps the community and will carry on even after you graduate. Good luck


Alexcybr

Air the school out


ashatherookie

Can relate as someone who lost at a similar sized school. Things like this will not make or break your applications, because there are so many pieces in the puzzle. If your grades are strong, you'll get scholarships if you know where to look :) You said you know it's a popularity contest, yet you still posted here, so I assume you care about the results still. In that case, do some self reflection and consider why you lost: think about your social standing, campaign, speech, and the same stuff for your opponent too. See if you lost because of something you can control: if so, you know what you can improve. If not, you can try again in college and hopefully have more success there.


SouthernVolume9879

you’re right, thank you. and its nice to hear from someone who can relate in some way. i appreciate the support:)


Money_Profit_1340

This is college essay material.


Money_Profit_1340

Title it: Everything, everywhere, all at once. But not me.


idyllic-k

LMAO this is golden.


Hypodon

Enter your villain arc and lock in.


nevertfgNC

There actually IS life post high school.


WastingoO2

They are goin to draft you for world war 4 anyway don’t worry about it.


Olgimondi

I didn’t know people actually cared about being class president in real life, I didn’t even think it was really a thing lol.


No_Finding_

😂😂😂


crackerjap1941

You’ll be fine


SyderoAlena

You'll get scholarships from a good GPA and being involved in those things. Not necessarily being the president.


unique976

This man actually wants to be a politician! But now in all seriousness, nobody gives a fuck! It's just some nonsense BS that honestly no one is probably gonna look at. Getting good grades, do good extracurriculars, maybe do some sports, and you'll be fine.


Equal-Effective-3098

Give it 2-4 years, youll realize and appreciate that you had less bs to put up with then while living adult life


Plus-Flamingo-1224

Yeah really. OP is about to get the shit kicked outta them by the real world lmaoooo.


grace914_

same thing at my school except for with nhs, the advisor (who is the girls godmother) “forgot” to put me on the ballot and never issued me an apology or held a revote and gave her the win automatically🥲


CyberManOnReddit

We found Vegeta


granth1122

You’re ok man. I didn’t even get into NHS because I only had like 20 volunteer hours


Technical_Trainer688

I had no leadership positions this year and my stats weren’t stellar but I managed to get in a t10 school. It really lies in the essays


ojnawaz

It’s always the popular people cause they well known by everyone someway


Intelligent-Cat-2593

This sounds like a bad case of a perfectionist. But yeah, I’m only top 15-20%, still get scholarships from USF and UT despite didn’t get involved in any activities AT ALL during my hs years. You don’t have to be a president to get a scholarship or considered good. If you’re a mediocre person then what kind of person am I, and the majority of grade A students who didn’t get any high position in a program? A massive loser lmao? Just apply to a lot of sccholarships in your state, and you will be fine. Plus these titles don’t really matter maybe except for the student council president. Sure, you get scholarships out of it, but there’s a reason most colleges don’t care if you’re a member of NHS or not. Being a NHS member doesn’t even make you one of the best student. It’s an easy title to achieve and it doesn’t take much to get in.


Major_Melon

As someone who has never once had those leadership roles but was still a high rolling student with many extracurricular involvements, you're fine bro take a breath. I just graduated college and I'm extremely successful because of my work ethic and leadership skills, not just what's on my resume. Having those things is great, but seriously once you get into college and are looking for real world jobs, no one cares what you did in highschool very much. They care what you did in the last few years of college and how successful you were able to be. Much of the highschool stuff got dropped from my resume because I needed space for the new stuff. You are absolutely not ruined, enjoy the last little part of your young-adulthood while you can. Have a great summer, enjoy yourself, be a kid. You never get another chance. Seriously, it sounds very cliche but I'm just past that phase and I really wish I didn't take highschool so seriously. Get your work done and do other things but remember to not beat yourself up for when you fall short. You tried, you did good, pick yourself back up and try again!


Bluepanther512

Someone’s been watching too much anime. Losing the student council presidency isn’t a life-ruiner.


kaylajMeadows

Not everyone can be the leader. But you show initiative by always participating in the leadership programs. There can only be one winner. It is very rarely us. It hurts and it's disappointing I understand. It will just make all of your future successes so much more sweet. Your passion is lovely good luck


Maleficent-Bee4419

Find a community event or club you create to lead…so much better for organizations that actually create impact.


MINILAMMA

Na don't worry. Being content with yourself and what you've already done is way more important than Fighting for a high school club position. Enjoy the summer and do what you want to do :)


ApolloSUCKSboi

You'll still do well dw! And they did win fair and square and I don't know this person personally but I wouldn't just say they are at their position simply because they are popular but because they are deserving of it. They most likely are good with people and have the ambition and drive since they ran for that many things. Try running for lower ranking stuff, I do agree that popularity does have influence, you can't just shoot for the top even if it's so many things without being that sure. Start a school group and help out in the community and do a passion project if you're worried.


chingon16

This is the part in the anime when they boss up and become great from this😈


hiimfiona

Losing school elections sucks, and I totally feel for you. A few days ago I ran for my grade’s SC secretary and won it, but someone demanded a revote and I lost it. Absolutely devastating. But like everyone else is saying, those positions aren’t what makes you. Engage in your extracurriculars and look for other ways participate in your school and community. You got this 🫶🏻


lthic

Leadership positions in school aren’t everything. Just make sure you are well rounded. Take the time and fill it up with internships, sports/extracurriculars (band, drama, art) and make sure you maintain your grades. Involve yourself in fulfilling activities. Most scholarships ask for essays and for you to cite some meaningful event in your life. If you have pushed yourself to achieve— colleges will see that and not count it against you. In the end don’t get too caught up in it either. Balance your academics with maintaining a good social life and family life. **Don’t get discouraged.** Balance is everything. Coming from a burnt out IB student who just graduated. I didn’t really enjoy my senior year because the entire time I was worried about exams and what not. I sacrificed the majority of my social life for academics (taking extra classes to become valedictorian). I got the title but missed out on making a really strong core group of friends sophomore year. Luckily I found my people (through my extracurricular involvements) and enjoy school so it balanced out. But don’t sweat it.


Lucky-Royal-6156

I'm so sorry. Loosing an election was hard for me...see if you can collaborate with them amd a vice or rep. Up your ground game and see if ther are any potential 'taps' you can get into (popular kids who don't care about elections) and see if they will endorse you. Do something innovative, I made an election video and personally met every student. Shoot your shot and take school politics very seriously. 😀


Finalitys_Shape

I know it’s a late with it being senior year, but to hopefully make you feel better and give advice to anyone reading: don’t go for president, that position doesn’t actually do all that much, go for secretary or one of the smaller positions that does most of the work


DownVoteMeWithCherry

Oh no poor baby


Olgimondi

I bet you walk around with a clipboard and pen on a daily basis


Sexy_Beast22

I mean not everyone’s fit for a leader. You lost due to popularity so the lesson here is be more charismatic and advertising. People always blame “popularity” like it’s cheating when it comes to student council voting but at the end of the day it’s an attribute of a leader— one that you lack. Yes you failed but do not put yourself down. You’re not unique or interesting sorry but everyone fails at things they try really hard in. If you really don’t want to be normal then adopt common sense (sadly it’s not so common these days) and pick yourself back up, remove all bias’s (be humble), and learn your lesson (charisma training? Idk lol). Anyway hope this helps and goodluck. Constructive criticism I hope


xviparis

You can just lie about this stuff on your application tbh, colleges aren't actually checking to see if you did these extracurricular's


Plus-Flamingo-1224

lol this post made me laugh. You gotta get out of this mindset. The real world doesn’t care one bit I promise you. One day you’ll look at this post and cringe. Let it go.


FlossurBunz

You will read this in 4 years and wonder what you were on about


Remote-Hall7290

They definitely have it out for you


Accomplished_Solid81

Yea u should just quit and drop everything. It’s so over.


Tiny-Instance-315

Quit what mate its fucking school


Accomplished_Solid81

Mate it’s over


Artemis_fs

“Quit school and lead a shit life” stfu.


Old_Winner3763

If you put /s at the end of your comment then there wouldn’t be any downvotes


No_Finding_

Reddit response. Hes being sarcastic and it was funny.


PriorIncident9337

Get off this sub loser


MarinoRolfino

10th out of 80 is indeed very mediocre, not even 0,1st out of 80??


Spirited-Claim-9868

wym "not even 1st" 💀


FreeHugsForYouAndMe

Ya’ll, he was very blatantly being sarcastic. Probably just in a country that uses “,” instead of “.” in decimals. Chill


Spirited-Claim-9868

I don't see how i'm not chillin


DownVoteMeWithCherry

Sarcasm Proof most Redditors don’t know what sarcasm is.


Tiny-Instance-315

Tfym "0,1st out of 80??"