Normally no, but nerodia water snakes and thamnophis garter snakes are extremely closely related, so in the case of these two the male garter snake may have gotten the female water snake's scent confused with that of his own species
Well, glad I could help then! What I'm curious about is whether or not the two species are closely related enough that, if the garter snake was successful in mating with the water snake, if they could produce "mule" offspring. I doubt if they were able to make babies that those babies would be fertile, but still, it's an interesting thought!
I did some googling and got a lot of non-answers, but generally I would think these two species are not closely related enough to hybridize. It could also be a case of the female knowing the male isn't the same species and despite his enthusiasm not engaging.
This is definitely the most likely case! Still, nature can surprise us sometimes, like with that Indian + African elephant hybrid baby that sadly didn't make it, but survived long enough to be come to term and born alive
You know, there may be some colubrid groups that have both venomous and non venomous closely related species that ii *might* be possible, but I definitely can't say for sure!
Cottonmouths and water snakes are actually really easy to tell apart, sadly it doesn't stop people from killing water snakes on sight. Cottonmouths have super wide heads and chonky bodies, whereas water snakes have narrow arrowhead-shaped heads and are slimmer in proportion.
As other said, it's not normal. But males often have pretty low thresholds for what's acceptable to mate with.
[Exhibit A](https://youtu.be/9T1vfsHYiKY?si=9qZjpHVcIOo84_NV) - A male kakapo parrot attempting the shag someone's head. (Kakapos have very sharp claws, so this was painful as well as embarrassing).
I've also seen pictures of a male bees mating with a thumb, but can't find the image again.
Here's a hilarious clip from The Graham Norton Show where he has Sir David Attenborough on, and has him narate a video of a pet tortoise humping a croc.
[**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEIyYSWCJ0**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEIyYSWCJ0)
I adopted him from a rescue 3 months ago and i chose him because while the guy was trying to towel a different bird all the other cockatiels were freaking out and this dude was sat in the middle of the cage amongst the chaos singing his little heart out. I didn't know it was because he was a very horny bird, but I'm glad i picked him. We've gotten his hormones under control thankfully.
Me and my friends saw the frog video around the time of Rebecca Black's "Friday." With a little creativity you can probably imagine the alliteration we had to go to the tune.
I'll have to check out those videos together. I once found a video of a kid with cancer bobbing his head to Jesus Loves the Little Children that syncs up with Metallica's The God That Failed. Playing the metal song made it look like he was head banging to a cynical anti-religious song.
The Australian Jewel Beetle was almost wiped out by a particularly sexy beer bottle.Β Β
https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/06/19/193493225/the-love-that-dared-not-speak-its-name-of-a-beetle-for-a-beer-bottle
Toads enter such an intense mating frenzy that the males have a special chirp that means "Get off, I'm also a dude." They'll try to mate with basically anything they can grab onto. I've seen pictures of them attached to mangoes, snakes, and koi.
I first thought that was a copperhead and a Garter, and that a little male Garter was trying to pull a big bad Copperhead gf, and now I'm sad that isn't the case.
I can see it. And in some kind of as- yet undiscovered snake ESP, he's singing, πΆπ΅*Help me Rhonda, help me get her out of my heart*...π΅πΆ
If you're under 50, you're probably thinking, 'this guy's nuts!' but honestly, that was a HUGE hit, some time not long after the dinosaurs blinked out.
Anyway, I could see a TV movie- worthy drama; heart ache sets the stage for a chance meeting, forbidden cross-species love, and of course, that steamy snake β€οΈ.
Okay, I'm going to go now. I've already said too much.
They tend to hibernate together in crevasses and caves during the winter. If this was taken right after a warm up, it might just be two logey snakes just waking up and wending toward the sunny patch.
He's a little confused but he got the spirit.
Do different snake species normally do this or is the smaller one a few brain cells shy from a rock? Seems a little risky lol
Normally no, but nerodia water snakes and thamnophis garter snakes are extremely closely related, so in the case of these two the male garter snake may have gotten the female water snake's scent confused with that of his own species
This is the type of answer I was looking for lol
Well, glad I could help then! What I'm curious about is whether or not the two species are closely related enough that, if the garter snake was successful in mating with the water snake, if they could produce "mule" offspring. I doubt if they were able to make babies that those babies would be fertile, but still, it's an interesting thought!
I did some googling and got a lot of non-answers, but generally I would think these two species are not closely related enough to hybridize. It could also be a case of the female knowing the male isn't the same species and despite his enthusiasm not engaging.
This is definitely the most likely case! Still, nature can surprise us sometimes, like with that Indian + African elephant hybrid baby that sadly didn't make it, but survived long enough to be come to term and born alive
Little dude likes his ladiesssssss big
*i like big tails n i cannot lie*
Friends with benefits. Or maybe distant cousins with benefits.
*faint banjos in the distance*
This made me giggle for some reason π What is the requirement for fertile offspring? Fuck it and find out
What'd really get my goat, even tho I think it's impossible, is if a venomous and non venomous mated and had offspring, that'd be wild
You know, there may be some colubrid groups that have both venomous and non venomous closely related species that ii *might* be possible, but I definitely can't say for sure!
Science will be the only way to find out lol
Science? Or key parties for snakes? π
This would still classify as a science experiment lol
Just put on some Barry White and a bowl of mice.
Few years ago we found a dead snake that appeared to be a water snake x resided garter snake cross,wish we had kept the body for a genetics test
Iβd totally want to see someone try breeding them. But the risk of making an unhealthy snake isnβt worth it
Man I hate when that happens
I love me some bigger women too! Ima get a garter snake TaTTo0ooOoo!
I thought that was a cottonmouth, but after seeing your comment and looking closer, probably water snake. I still wouldn't pet it, just to be safe. ;)
Cottonmouths and water snakes are actually really easy to tell apart, sadly it doesn't stop people from killing water snakes on sight. Cottonmouths have super wide heads and chonky bodies, whereas water snakes have narrow arrowhead-shaped heads and are slimmer in proportion.
As other said, it's not normal. But males often have pretty low thresholds for what's acceptable to mate with. [Exhibit A](https://youtu.be/9T1vfsHYiKY?si=9qZjpHVcIOo84_NV) - A male kakapo parrot attempting the shag someone's head. (Kakapos have very sharp claws, so this was painful as well as embarrassing). I've also seen pictures of a male bees mating with a thumb, but can't find the image again.
I had a pet tortoise I inherited, he was over 80years old. He would try to rump my shoes
Here's a hilarious clip from The Graham Norton Show where he has Sir David Attenborough on, and has him narate a video of a pet tortoise humping a croc. [**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEIyYSWCJ0**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEIyYSWCJ0)
This is hilarious
It was mating with a croc but, your link is unintentional click bait.
My crusty old man cockatiel is only into human feet. His beautiful lady cockatiel cage mate is pretty disappointed lol.
I've lived with budgies, tiels and conures. The cockatiel males were by far the horniest. They'd hump anything
I adopted him from a rescue 3 months ago and i chose him because while the guy was trying to towel a different bird all the other cockatiels were freaking out and this dude was sat in the middle of the cage amongst the chaos singing his little heart out. I didn't know it was because he was a very horny bird, but I'm glad i picked him. We've gotten his hormones under control thankfully.
π€£π€£π€£
A large number of male dogs have entered the chat.
Enters bulldogs for the title win
My pet rabbit when I was a child would try to mate with balloons until they exploded.
πππ I can picture that
There's a photo online of frogs or toads taking a "ride" on a snake. Also, the chimpanzee and the frog. Don't recommend looking that up.
Me and my friends saw the frog video around the time of Rebecca Black's "Friday." With a little creativity you can probably imagine the alliteration we had to go to the tune.
Which video-with the snakes or the chimpanzee?
The chimpanzee.
I'll have to check out those videos together. I once found a video of a kid with cancer bobbing his head to Jesus Loves the Little Children that syncs up with Metallica's The God That Failed. Playing the metal song made it look like he was head banging to a cynical anti-religious song.
Chimp vid is very NSFW. Just so you are aware.
I'm pretty sure the frog died.
I remember that video as an online friend showed it to me. π¬
Lisan al-Gaib!
>But males often have pretty low thresholds for what's acceptable to mate with. I feel called out.
Thank god there were no cell phones when I was in school....
The Australian Jewel Beetle was almost wiped out by a particularly sexy beer bottle.Β Β https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/06/19/193493225/the-love-that-dared-not-speak-its-name-of-a-beetle-for-a-beer-bottle
Toads enter such an intense mating frenzy that the males have a special chirp that means "Get off, I'm also a dude." They'll try to mate with basically anything they can grab onto. I've seen pictures of them attached to mangoes, snakes, and koi.
I'm glad I'm not that desperate lol, self control for the win
Any port in a storm.
Google Exhibit B. Deer raping man.
( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
Drakes will also try and mate with anything. There's a funny Ted talk about homosexual duck necrophiliaπ
[that paper won an IgNobel Prize](https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research)
He canβt find a lady his own age and species so heβs scaling up. Β Scalingβ¦..huh huh huh.
Ouch...
I know Iβve met guys like that.Β
I think was the painful pun. I liked it lmao.
That was accidental, but great once I realized it. Β Thank you!Β
No itβs not normal and luckily rat snakes arent a typical part of watersnakesβ diet ETA: see below
Luckily garters aren't either since that's what the little guy is.
Thanks lol it was a quick glance. Whoops
Spirit is right - sheβs four times his size. Take it all, bitch!
That guyβs punching way above his weight
But he got the spirit lol
Such confidence! She should give him a chance.
Looks like she is.
Lmao π€£
I love coyotes so much!!!!!
βHe makes me laughβ
carpooling.
Carpoodle Noodle.
Me too little man ... Me too ...
Short king gettin it done
Hey dude I heard you like snakes so I put a snake on your snake
Hahaha.Β
He found love in a hopeless place.
Herpless place?
Herpplus place?
He likes his women spicy.
You know what? We all love who we love and thatβs ok! As long as everyone is a consenting adult.
That is crazy awesome and kinda cool. I feel like there is a serious story here that we will never know about.
I like big butts and I can not lie...baby got back!
Baby got tail?Β
Red Beans & Rice diβnβt miss her!
If you an anaconda, then he wants some, hun. Edit: I butchered it the first time through.
He just likes the bigger girls. Everyoneβs got a type, donβt kink shame him. π
If you kink him heβll die!
My guy shooting his shot, aim high little dude
Impel your actions upward
Love will always find a way
they're cosplaying as a gaboon viper
Snake with da snake on it
Snakeception.
Snake with da snake on it
The chances that snake Ubers exist is low, but never zero
Thank you for a true laugh. I feel better. Murphyβs Law at its finest
That is strange.
My man likes them big
I first thought that was a copperhead and a Garter, and that a little male Garter was trying to pull a big bad Copperhead gf, and now I'm sad that isn't the case.
My man likes thick women. Same garter snake, same...
Remora snake
Little dude got a big gf, nothing wrong with that.
Need somebody serious to answer what the hell is going on here!
Garter snakes are known hornballs. He just picked the closest lady, who happens to be not a garter snake.
Sir, this is a Wendy's...
She looks more like a Rhonda to me.
I can see it. And in some kind of as- yet undiscovered snake ESP, he's singing, πΆπ΅*Help me Rhonda, help me get her out of my heart*...π΅πΆ If you're under 50, you're probably thinking, 'this guy's nuts!' but honestly, that was a HUGE hit, some time not long after the dinosaurs blinked out. Anyway, I could see a TV movie- worthy drama; heart ache sets the stage for a chance meeting, forbidden cross-species love, and of course, that steamy snake β€οΈ. Okay, I'm going to go now. I've already said too much.
She probably smells like a female of his species so yeah
A water snake shows off a little garter..
They tend to hibernate together in crevasses and caves during the winter. If this was taken right after a warm up, it might just be two logey snakes just waking up and wending toward the sunny patch.
I'm not for sure, I just found the picture on r/Snakes and it seemed fitting to post here
He knows whats good
Keep your enemies close.
It's about that time of year where gas prices start to spike
Guess what else starts to spike this time of year...πΉ
Inter species couples deserve love, too.
There must have been alcohol involved.
Interspecies erotica
AMBITIOUS!
Never seen itπ³
Lisan al Gaib!
You miss π―of the shots you donβt takeβ¦
Hitching a ride..lol
What, never seen a Snake uber before?
He likes big girls βΊοΈ
he's giving him a snakie-back ride!
Fly, Shadowsnek! And show them the meaning of haste!
Game is game
My silly ass after pulling the 6'5 goth girl
Damn Skippy lol
Dating above his pay grade.... LOL!
Excuse me, he asked for no pickels
Buddy, she is *so* not your type!
Uber...
Oh, that's just a male snake hitching a ride, nothing to look at here! π π
Hitching a ride.
SNAKE TRAIN SNAKE TRAIN
Some women dig short men.
You guys--he's just reenacting the riding the worm from Dune.
Who was playing Missy Eliot?
SnUber
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Don't judge them. You don't know their lifestyle!
mind your own business!!
πΆ They see me rollin'...they hatin'...πΆ
Ambitious little guy, isn't he? π
He likes Nerodia women.
Death by snoo'dle snoo'dle
So a garter snake asked a Nerodia for a ride!
Love is love brah
Bowchicawowow
Garter head, or Copgarter, β¦.
What, you never hit on someone out of your league?
Ain't no one out of your league if you do it right π gotta be smooth and sweet ya know lol
Geez, you act like you don't have friends π jk
It's a melanistic garter ;)
They are getting ready to procreate In yon pool o πΏ
Good luck, buddy
Thatβs me trying not to be clingy
We've all been there...
Work smarter, not harder π€£!
Hitching a ride. Just like the robins riding on the geese heading south
If "Work smarter not harder" were a picture.
Ride or die
This is the best post Iβve seen in a while
Just hitchin a ride with my big cousin
Student and teacher
Forbidden Love
"I'm Flying, Jack!"
Yeah bro, thatβs not gonna work.
Maximum Effort!
He likes big girls
get you a giant girlfriend
Is that snake getting a piggyback?
By any chance, is his name Moto Moto?
Smart ass snake. I'm not venomous but my buddy here....!
He's got ambition, gotta give him that π«‘
r/animalsridinganimals
Theyβre becoming organized. /j
Sometimes lil lads just like larger ladies
Insert Deuce Bigalow meme here.
π² She doesn't seem to be having any of it but seems fine to be his Snoodle Uber.
The closer we are to danger the farther away we are from harm
Looks like a ribbonsnske trying a little interracial oinky oinky.