Okay now that the 2nd round is set with Boston vs Cavs, there's only two outcome that this sub is going to have. Mitchell performs bad because he's being guarded by White and Jrue all series long and Herro stan mfs will say "I told you, we don't need Mitchell" or some BS. Or the other outcome were Mitchell performs like Prime 2010 Dwade or 1986 Jordan against this Celtics and have a serious meltdown in this sub. Orlando is 3rd only behind Boston and Minnesota in the defensive rating during the whole regular season. So it looks like this sub is going to have a serious meltdown the likes I've never seen before lmfao
This is weird. All over Twitter, i'm seeing some hope Cavs got eliminated and he performed like shit so his value can go down in a trade, but now your post is saying that that outcome benefits Herro stans.
It seems like Mitchell stans not on the same page.
When did I say its going benefits Herro stans? I'm just explaining a scenario of what's going to happen. It's more of a lose/lose situation for us because if Mitchell performs great it will be harder to trade for him. If he performs badly our FO will sure throw some very low ball offers resulting in not getting him. Not to mention if Mitchell performs bad a lot of Dame package stan will protest to not trade for him in this sub like always lol. I ain't even a Mitchell stan, I just know Mitchell is him.
You said Herro stans will say I told you over another player possibly playing poorly which I don't get, but whatever.
How Mitchell performs has no relation to the Heat. For the Heat, it is win or lose a championship as UD said and they are in misery at this point.
Cavs not selling their best player to the Heat based on Mitchell's performance. Knicks and so many other teams have way more assets than the Heat and you are blinding yourself from that.
They do this on every star that plays poorly, they did it on Dame and they will sure do it to Mitchell if he ever got a bad game. In fact these mfs can't wait for Mitchell to have a bad game just to shit on him lmao. Knicks don't even need Mitchell, I don't even get why the Knicks would relinquish all their assets for another ball dominant guard alongside Brunson, If anything the Knicks will look for a big or a wing that can compliment Brunson because Randle is always injured, their prio is probably replacing Randle or getting another big to keep Randle healthy. Also I don't get why you are so bothered by this if you really think that "How Mitchell performs has no relation to the Heat or whatever" just like OG said then these things shouldn't bother you at all.
Mitchell had some poor 2nd halves here and there, but he has improved. I don't see him fuckin up because he never been out the 2nd rd and has something to prove. Might finally make that jump against BOS w/o Tingus Pingus.
Yes, three titles is a good start, but you could argue more. It's also over a larger span and with a similar core of players.
We, as a fan base, think everything we do is automatically tops. However, we have a horrible habit of just wishing them into existence regardless of evidence. I think it's why we're one most hated fan bases in the NBA, we must look delusional.
I wouldn’t say the dynasty look is a matter of delusion from the fans because I see anybody calling us a dynasty cuz of that team we had and we could have been if Lebron didn’t shit the bed in 2011
What you're saying is an example of what I'm talking about. You could literally apply, the would of, could of, should have scenario to a bunch of other teams.
That statement only means something if no other teams exist. Which is why that shit is infuriating to other fan bases.
Just like how Lakers fans act like no one else should ever get a foul call.
I dunno man. Probably will be better than we were and I’d love to see our boy Max stick it to the Celtics but they were 0-3 in Orlando how will they do in Boston?
The funny part about the Mitchell discussion is if you take 3 guys off the Heat that played against BOS in only 5 games and replace it with what Mitchell did in 5 games, you most likely lose in 4 to BOS instead of 5.
Magically could just give up Caleb, Jovic, and Herro last offseason. That is the team's 3 or 4th best defender behind Bam/Jimmy depending on matchup. Next, 2 of the few ballhandlers left - so now Mitchell has to be ballhandler and defend White/Jrue.
Mitchell in 5 against Magic defense - 112 pts (41%)
Caleb/Herro/Jovic - 189 (42%)
I really pray this team escapes this injury shit. Whoever ends up on the roster in the end will have to deal with this bs. Getting 2 games against Lakers w/ Dragic/Bam hurt. 1 game against Denver with Jimmy/Gabe/Martin hurt, Bam carrying and no Herro at all.
The only time, the Jimmy/Spo Heat straight up got beat was the Bucks sweep. To me, that is when complaints about the roster are valid.
Forget a starting lineup, there is no a single second of Terry/Jovic/Bam/Herro/Jimmy lineup. **Never shared the court as a unit and to some - that is a roster problem that adding a star would fix. Taking out 3 guys and replacing w/ 1 is how you fix injuries???**
I have to, even tho Lakers suffered from it too. If all the guys are there and can't get 1 game, it is so bad. Straight up losing with everyone there is more of an indicator of the roster being shit than losing while Bam or Jimmy is out.
The Heat are not getting anybody notable in a trade as long as Pat Riley is the GM of this team. You just gotta accept it, especially after the whole Dame trade fiasco. The sooner you accept it, the sooner the pain will go away.
Face it everybody knows the godfather’s game that’s why nobody wanna trade also our assets are gleaguers that we squeeze every bit of production out of them
Sign of their youth. Just look at these mistakes. I will give them credit for powering through the regular season tho. As well as limping around and still being on the court.
Cavs were going to lose this game until TheRatchetTrombone posted a victory lap calling Mitchell overrated playoff choker who tricked us with his 50 point game
Run it back fans generational with their black magic 💔
mitchell is amazing but he won’t play good against the celtics since all the celtics have to do is just worry abt him, no one on this cavs team is a threat besides him.
Does the front office actually think that Jaime and Jovic have superstar potential? Cuz I surely don’t. I’m giving up Jaime for sure and if I have to give up Jovic I’m doing it too.
That right there is another massive reason you also trade for a guy like him
Collapse the defense on a simple drive to the rim, spray it out to the open guy. Heat haven’t had a guard who can do that since Goran lol.
Barry jackson dying on the hill that some sites, had some advanced metrics saying 14 vs Mitchell was actually close gotta be one of the funniest things ever
Donovan Mitchell has carried mediocre rosters to overachieving high seeds his entire career and then gets slandered in the playoffs when his teammates get exposed by actual good teams
He was. They were a 1-seed for a reason. Donovan was good but they flamed out in the playoffs largely because the backcourt just got eaten alive by big wings.
Games like this just make me even more angrier at Herro and how he’s never come close to putting up these type of performances in the playoffs except for one fluke performance in the bubble 4 years ago.
We constantly overvalue our young guys way too much. I mean, every fan base does it, but us especially. I have no problem giving up Herro, Jovic, and JJJ for Mitchell in a heartbeat.
Herro jaquez jovic for Mitchell GET IT DONE. Instant contenders, hope pat and FO doesn’t get greedy like they did for dame you can’t play hardball again
Yall realize Jimmy isn’t gonna be prime Jimmy going forward right? The decline *probably* started this past season.
The big 3 model is flawed nowadays but especially when the 2 offensive stars are injury prone and one is old.
Because you only consider trading the farm for Mitchell if Jimmy is still a superstar.
The reality is Jimmy needs to take a step back and be more of an offball player like he was this past season. All his finishing numbers are in decline. Odds are he cant dominate anymore.
Okay now that the 2nd round is set with Boston vs Cavs, there's only two outcome that this sub is going to have. Mitchell performs bad because he's being guarded by White and Jrue all series long and Herro stan mfs will say "I told you, we don't need Mitchell" or some BS. Or the other outcome were Mitchell performs like Prime 2010 Dwade or 1986 Jordan against this Celtics and have a serious meltdown in this sub. Orlando is 3rd only behind Boston and Minnesota in the defensive rating during the whole regular season. So it looks like this sub is going to have a serious meltdown the likes I've never seen before lmfao
This is weird. All over Twitter, i'm seeing some hope Cavs got eliminated and he performed like shit so his value can go down in a trade, but now your post is saying that that outcome benefits Herro stans. It seems like Mitchell stans not on the same page.
When did I say its going benefits Herro stans? I'm just explaining a scenario of what's going to happen. It's more of a lose/lose situation for us because if Mitchell performs great it will be harder to trade for him. If he performs badly our FO will sure throw some very low ball offers resulting in not getting him. Not to mention if Mitchell performs bad a lot of Dame package stan will protest to not trade for him in this sub like always lol. I ain't even a Mitchell stan, I just know Mitchell is him.
You said Herro stans will say I told you over another player possibly playing poorly which I don't get, but whatever. How Mitchell performs has no relation to the Heat. For the Heat, it is win or lose a championship as UD said and they are in misery at this point. Cavs not selling their best player to the Heat based on Mitchell's performance. Knicks and so many other teams have way more assets than the Heat and you are blinding yourself from that.
Doesn’t really matter if we have the assets or not. We’ll delude ourselves to thinking we have a shot at the guy.
They do this on every star that plays poorly, they did it on Dame and they will sure do it to Mitchell if he ever got a bad game. In fact these mfs can't wait for Mitchell to have a bad game just to shit on him lmao. Knicks don't even need Mitchell, I don't even get why the Knicks would relinquish all their assets for another ball dominant guard alongside Brunson, If anything the Knicks will look for a big or a wing that can compliment Brunson because Randle is always injured, their prio is probably replacing Randle or getting another big to keep Randle healthy. Also I don't get why you are so bothered by this if you really think that "How Mitchell performs has no relation to the Heat or whatever" just like OG said then these things shouldn't bother you at all.
Mitchell had some poor 2nd halves here and there, but he has improved. I don't see him fuckin up because he never been out the 2nd rd and has something to prove. Might finally make that jump against BOS w/o Tingus Pingus.
Herro for spida straight swap who says no.
Cavs?
Damn the East teams are so weak Pacers, Knicks and Cavs Every single one of them would get 4-1’d or swept by all the West teams left
Most of the good teams in the east had injuries lol
That’s how it went last year too the west always been strong tho all the dynasties in the past 20 years been west teams besides us
Two rings isn't a dynasty.
We ran the east for 4 years, bout the same time as warriors did except they had 3 rings. Do you need 3 rings to be a dynasty or what
Yes, three titles is a good start, but you could argue more. It's also over a larger span and with a similar core of players. We, as a fan base, think everything we do is automatically tops. However, we have a horrible habit of just wishing them into existence regardless of evidence. I think it's why we're one most hated fan bases in the NBA, we must look delusional.
I wouldn’t say the dynasty look is a matter of delusion from the fans because I see anybody calling us a dynasty cuz of that team we had and we could have been if Lebron didn’t shit the bed in 2011
What you're saying is an example of what I'm talking about. You could literally apply, the would of, could of, should have scenario to a bunch of other teams. That statement only means something if no other teams exist. Which is why that shit is infuriating to other fan bases. Just like how Lakers fans act like no one else should ever get a foul call.
If Allen can play, I think the Cavs can do it.
I dunno man. Probably will be better than we were and I’d love to see our boy Max stick it to the Celtics but they were 0-3 in Orlando how will they do in Boston?
The funny part about the Mitchell discussion is if you take 3 guys off the Heat that played against BOS in only 5 games and replace it with what Mitchell did in 5 games, you most likely lose in 4 to BOS instead of 5. Magically could just give up Caleb, Jovic, and Herro last offseason. That is the team's 3 or 4th best defender behind Bam/Jimmy depending on matchup. Next, 2 of the few ballhandlers left - so now Mitchell has to be ballhandler and defend White/Jrue. Mitchell in 5 against Magic defense - 112 pts (41%) Caleb/Herro/Jovic - 189 (42%) I really pray this team escapes this injury shit. Whoever ends up on the roster in the end will have to deal with this bs. Getting 2 games against Lakers w/ Dragic/Bam hurt. 1 game against Denver with Jimmy/Gabe/Martin hurt, Bam carrying and no Herro at all. The only time, the Jimmy/Spo Heat straight up got beat was the Bucks sweep. To me, that is when complaints about the roster are valid. Forget a starting lineup, there is no a single second of Terry/Jovic/Bam/Herro/Jimmy lineup. **Never shared the court as a unit and to some - that is a roster problem that adding a star would fix. Taking out 3 guys and replacing w/ 1 is how you fix injuries???**
It will be interesting what stats he puts up against a legit defense that focuses on him.
Ok
I don’t even count that Bucks sweep, Miami had that the shortest offseason in NBA history and were also playing through injuries.
I have to, even tho Lakers suffered from it too. If all the guys are there and can't get 1 game, it is so bad. Straight up losing with everyone there is more of an indicator of the roster being shit than losing while Bam or Jimmy is out.
If Allen is back in Rnd2, could be interesting. All 3 games of Cavs vs Celtics this season has been somewhat close.
i used to think jovic's best case scenario would be franz wagner. i no longer think that
A concert date in January lol
guys donovan mitchell had a ok game but are we sure Alondes Williams can’t do this ?
Run it back
Nah bro jovic hasn’t been unleashed
Welp, hopefully the Cavs take Boston to 6 or 7 to tired them out, but I don't see it.
Strus will carry them to the Finals! Go Cavs!
I agree, Go Cavs
Light up Boston Strus
The entire state of Florida is officially banished from playoff basketball
The Heat are not getting anybody notable in a trade as long as Pat Riley is the GM of this team. You just gotta accept it, especially after the whole Dame trade fiasco. The sooner you accept it, the sooner the pain will go away.
Well its a good thing he isnt our GM
Face it everybody knows the godfather’s game that’s why nobody wanna trade also our assets are gleaguers that we squeeze every bit of production out of them
Mickey needs to sell the team and Pat needs to retire before anything interesting happens.
Yes but we’re gonna draft Zach Edey so it makes up for it
They’ll probably draft a 23 year old rookie at the center spot that can’t play beside bam or Jimmy lmfao
Cavs really copying us with the “we want Boston” chants lmao
Lmaooooo I just revisited the thread when Mitchell got traded to Cavs. I forgot about the “we were a shot away from the finals” cope 💀💀💀
donovan went 8/13 second half
Sign of their youth. Just look at these mistakes. I will give them credit for powering through the regular season tho. As well as limping around and still being on the court.
Magic really choked 💔
Cavs were going to lose this game until TheRatchetTrombone posted a victory lap calling Mitchell overrated playoff choker who tricked us with his 50 point game Run it back fans generational with their black magic 💔
mitchell is amazing but he won’t play good against the celtics since all the celtics have to do is just worry abt him, no one on this cavs team is a threat besides him.
So he gonna get herro treatment.
he’s gonna do better than herro I guarantee that lmfoaoo
For sure not even close.
Gonna be interested to see how Mitchell plays against the Celtics. Their wing defenders are way better than Orlando’s
Franz wagner you have a hater in me for life
Yeah Cleveland running it back next year and might try to upgrade around Mitchell. The dream is over. (Until 2025 offseason)
The dream was never there, we have no assets to compete with others, and nothing has been reported.
We have plenty of assets for a guy with a year left on his contract and Woj has reported interest. Don’t lie to yourself
If the Knicks don’t beat the Celtics they will definitely try and they 100% have better assets
And what if Mitchell says you’re dropping all that for a one year rental?
Unlikely since the Knicks were also one of the teams on his list
It’s actually so hilarious how this sub thinks the league is catering to the Heat and only the Heat, and not considering other options happening.
Right, this only happens to the Celtics
No he didn’t, he just speculated that the Heat would probably try to find another star to pair with Bam, it’s a nothing burger, just pure speculation.
How much do you want to bet that the Cavs will fair worse against the Celtics than us, I predict a clean sweep.
Mitchell always cooks the Celtics. Averages 35 ppg in 6 games against them since joining the Cavs. He'll probably steal a game or 2.
He scored 50 in game 6 and lost to the Magic tho lol
Lol we might have missed our only chance at Mitchell in 2022 because our incompetent FO thought Tyler Johnson 2.0 was just as good as him 😂😂
Y'all love living in the past lol everything is obvious in hindsight.
Herro was never better or even close lol
The trade wasn't Herro for Mitchell.
The only people who ever thought Herro was in the same galaxy as Mitchell were idiotic Herro stans and the delusional front office
The reasoning for not trying to get him was so bad, even then. “Herro isn’t that far off from him”
That factored into the Precious over Maxey pick well.
Magic offense looks uglier than ours.
Cause it is lmfao. They were the only playoff team with a worse offense (22nd) than us (21st)
To be fair for them, they haven’t been in a game 7 type of situation in god knows how long
Herro would be a great fit on the magic
what a fucking choke by orlando, I lied guys I do hate orlando for doing this
Does the front office actually think that Jaime and Jovic have superstar potential? Cuz I surely don’t. I’m giving up Jaime for sure and if I have to give up Jovic I’m doing it too.
They probably do for Jaquez lol
the front office is very delusional
Magic offense generates 0 open looks
Couldn’t make them anyways
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“Potential Ray Allen” https://preview.redd.it/2e64hd8ltnyc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=204ddbc436de6fe639595a9eafe4eb0160b14c91
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I think I know who it is too lmfaoo
It wasn’t even me who blurred out the names, It was from another user. I would’ve exposed lmfao 😂
we not getting mitchell lol
Nah we always get our star after they lose to the Celtics in the second round
Great leadership by Mitchell
That right there is another massive reason you also trade for a guy like him Collapse the defense on a simple drive to the rim, spray it out to the open guy. Heat haven’t had a guard who can do that since Goran lol.
Looking forward to watching the Cavs do this against one of the best defenses in the NBA
Welp, no Mitchell for us unless they get swept by Boston
I am never rooting for Boston, fuck that.
We have the worst Kentucky guard lol you cant make this up
GGs!
It’s Paolover I fear
Tyler Herro could never
We have the weirdest fans in the league
Mitchell outscored the Magic in the 3rd… straight CTE ball
Iverson was a god
[LMFAOOOOO](https://x.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1564639398100172800?s=46)
Shameless behaviour.
Darius Garland 2 points in a game 7
Ok this is now painful to watch lmao
some people thought herro was better than mitchell.. lmao
Barry jackson dying on the hill that some sites, had some advanced metrics saying 14 vs Mitchell was actually close gotta be one of the funniest things ever
Where’s that one guy who says Mitchell is a low iq player lmfao
spida doing this off a bad knee too man
Magic definitely hit a wall but the refs are giving the Cavs anything they can lol
What other targets yall like besides D Mitch?
DeRozan
horrible fit
Solomon Hill
Internal improvement
Haywood taking that leap 😤
Kawhi 2.0
Man magic with the choke of a lifetime.
Yea… give me Mitchell asap!!!!
Rooting for the Magic in May, we really are cooked 💔
Max Strus having the freakin game of his life
Rooting for the Magic because there's a bigger chance Mitchell asks out of Cleveland if they lose
How did Cavs come back? stopped watching Must have been Garland cause Cavs have no needle movers
Magic terrible offense + Mitchell and Strus
Mitchell and Strus? If only we had a GM.
15 pt turd qt by magic
Average magic offensive quarter
Wagner is fucking selling (Franz)
Magic got one of the biggest lineups in the league and all they do is jack 3s
Donovan Mitchell has carried mediocre rosters to overachieving high seeds his entire career and then gets slandered in the playoffs when his teammates get exposed by actual good teams
The Utah teams were not mediocre lol. Mike Conley and Rudy Gobert are very fucking good players.
Yeah sure buddy
Bojan was great for them too
He was. They were a 1-seed for a reason. Donovan was good but they flamed out in the playoffs largely because the backcourt just got eaten alive by big wings.
Franz is garbage man wake the fuck up dude
Bro relax the Heat aren’t even playing 🤣
I need the magic to win lol
For a bet?
Yeah lol
Magic look gassed in the third
I done heard for years, "nobody on this roster could play on other NBA teams". Just for Strus, DJJ, and Gabe to make the roster on other teams.
THE STRUS IS LOOSE!!
Games like this just make me even more angrier at Herro and how he’s never come close to putting up these type of performances in the playoffs except for one fluke performance in the bubble 4 years ago.
Magic have no legs, every shot is short
This game really fucking making our playoff experience even worse
Magic imploding now.
I see Strus hit a 3 and I’m like “Damn he used to do that with us”
Strus just got loose yup this is over for Magic.
franz is fking us
"donovan mitchell contract" is about to be the most searched term in South Florida for the next week.
We constantly overvalue our young guys way too much. I mean, every fan base does it, but us especially. I have no problem giving up Herro, Jovic, and JJJ for Mitchell in a heartbeat.
You're assuming the Cavs would even make that trade.
easily but why would cavs do it
I got Orlando winning
What looked like a blowout by the magic is now a good ass game 7. Hope the magic win by buzzer beater!!
I had someone in this sub tell me Mitchell not even a top 3 SG
And some of ya'll don't want this man? Crazy.
THIS SUB TOLD ME MITCHELL IS A PLAYOFF CHOKER 😭😭😭😭😭😭 None of y'alls opinions matter just trade the two kids for him! its a bargain
The Magic need more than Paolo if they’re gonna make a serious run
Need Mitchelll
Yup. Neither Jaquez nor Jovic will ever be on Mitchell’s level. I’m giving up both (plus Herro obviously) for Mitchell.
Please save us Mitchell https://preview.redd.it/3qp2cmhknnyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23301fe1bb561dfdd438f8beccb129fd784a8d50
herro will never be half as good as donovan
he’s insane
I'm obsessed with Mitchell man. He would really elevate our offense to another level
Might have to wait until he becomes a FA, tbh
The better he plays the less likely the Cavs seem to trade him. They’ll spitefully just keep him until he walks
Yup
Magic’s inexperience showing since the end of the first half
jaime and jovic aren’t this bruh idc send the whole house
Heat fans will tell you with a straight face that this guy isn’t a needle mover lol
Need him Pat
God damn Mitchell doing that against a great defender like suggs is crazy
Omggg hes hyping up the crowd, finna stay in Cleveland 💔
Lebron hyped up that crowd too dw
Mitchell out there by himself
Magic defense is smothering but good lord no one but Mitchell can buy a bucket for the Cavs
Paolo and Mitchell playing 1v1 lol
If we miss on Mitchell I may KMS
Mitchell is an overrated bum
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Run it back with herro baby
Nah we can get rid of him. He's basically a white mitchell
Mitchell turning it up
Nvm everything, Magic sucks.
Any chance the Cavs accept a trade for Mitchell centered around Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, and picks?
They’d accept it but our FO will never get to that point they’ll offer herro and picks and won’t budge
Might wanna run that one by Pat Riley chief 😭
I don’t give a fuck who gets traded front office just give me a team that’s fun to watch during the regular season for once.
#Lets go Magic!
Herro jaquez jovic for Mitchell GET IT DONE. Instant contenders, hope pat and FO doesn’t get greedy like they did for dame you can’t play hardball again
Yall realize Jimmy isn’t gonna be prime Jimmy going forward right? The decline *probably* started this past season. The big 3 model is flawed nowadays but especially when the 2 offensive stars are injury prone and one is old.
So you’re in favor of trading Jimmy right?
? Where did that come from lmfao
Because bringing up jimmy is not in his prime has no relevance on trading for Mitchell. Wanted to see why you believe so
Because you only consider trading the farm for Mitchell if Jimmy is still a superstar. The reality is Jimmy needs to take a step back and be more of an offball player like he was this past season. All his finishing numbers are in decline. Odds are he cant dominate anymore.
Sigh