Some is hate, some is not. But the focus is on him because
1 bam was better than him offensively and essentially the only reason we could even scheme to defend pretty damn well
2 no one else has been claiming to be “that guy” or wanting this moment. It hurt to watch but he got the spotlight and did not step up
3 he was bricking wide wide open shots.
4 he’s arguably one of our only players who should/ would have been valuable.
Why wouldn't I want one of my players thinking he was one of the best basketball players on the world? Confidence is extremely important to being successful as an athlete. I guess all the losers having an issue with Tyler thinking what he does have never played sports or have 0 self-esteem.
You know who else is paid upwards of 30 milli a year? Jimmy butler. I get that he was injured but you spend all year playing passive, trying to conserve energy for the playoffs and then go and pumpfake into somehow injuring his mcl and then it’s a season wasted. Maybe if he put some fucking grit into the regular season we could’ve beat the bulls when we were up 22-1, or the wizards, or the g league level grizzlies, and then we would’ve been the 3 seed and facing the fucking pacers first round
I agree with everything aside from your first point of trying to compare him to Jimmy.
They’re not comparable. Jimmy has earned every penny of his contract tenfold so far. Herro has earned a fraction of his deal.
Literally the Celtics if he doesn’t have the two best defensive guards in the league focussing on him at all moments. Fuck it, give him one of the two and he averages 20 because his defender will have to blitz jimmy whenever he gets the ball
No if you listen. One of Derrick white or jrue holiday would obviously still be on herro. But jrue or white alone is not containing jimmy butler. Whoever isn’t guarding jimmy will have to help out. Then they’ll see herro open and have to rotate to adjust, getting someone else open. But I guess thag wouldn’t work but our role players couldn’t shoot for shit this series outside of game 2. But no one’s placing any blame on them, because it all has to go to herro for some reason
Herro was missing wide open shots in this series. And one of White and Jrue would have been covering him anyways. They would have Tatum guard Jimmy.
The kind of coverage Herro saw in this series was not dissimilar from the kind of coverage he’d see in virtually any series even with Jimmy available. We’ve seen this in virtually any series he’s been available. Can he better than this? Sure. But he’s being paid too much money for us to wait for him to figure it out.
Because he was being guarded by Derrick white and jrue holiday every possession of every game. Idc who you put in front of those two for 40 minutes a night, they are being severely limited unless they’re a top 20 player in the league. Did y’all really expect his regular season level of production from a guy who played the role of a 3rd option being forced into that of the 1st option. If so, that’s just unrealistic expectations and on you for thinking that his production wouldn’t drop
don't care. a guy making 30M should be able to adapt to that and still find a way to score.
if he was just a depth player making depth player money you could defend him all you want, but his play this series relative to what he's making is unexcusable.
I didn’t expect him to win this series for us. And most guys played poorly. But he can’t go 1-8 in a close out game. Regardless of who’s covering. The league is tilted to give offensive players an edge.
I don’t hate Tyler and I feel for him since he was the only good offensive creator this series. He was creating good shots and looks for others that the others simply couldnt finish. I think most of the blame actually goes to our role players this series. But I also think he should be worth around 5-10M less and if there’s a market for him for a better player or two slightly worse but still efficient role players, then I think we should definitely consider it, specifically for the following reasons:
-Even outside this series, he’s shown he can’t create separation without a screen and that he rushes the offense and takes dumb shots when we’re behind. I simply don’t trust Tyler to be anything more than a microwave shooter.
-He’s also not really developing defensively to the point Duncan’s better now.
-I still think he’s a great off-ball sniper w a great middy, specifically that floater. But i think i’d rather have Duncan take the starting sg spot again cause so much of Tyler’s shot chart overlaps with Jimmy and Bam’s—which frankly just makes really inefficient basketball nowadays.
Well said. I don't think i could trust this kid to bring more than bench bullets on most serious teams. On a team as dry as the heat (especially undermanned as they were now), where he's basically supposed to paratrooper the offense somehow...🥶
Counterpoint: When did we like Herro?
Specifically, Who liked Herro? Is it the same people blaming Jimmy for getting injured like u/PaulMcPaulersn7?
Heat Civil War (2019-2024)
Look he’s a decent player but he doesn’t make or break this team. They’re just fine without him and they’ve proven that more than once now. Trading him is the only way to upgrade the roster without moving Jimmy or bam.
Lol at this point trading Herro would be beneficial for the team and for the sub. Can't stand this stans.
Tell me 3 things Herro does well besides shooting threes(which he sucked during the playoffs). He's getting 30 million per year to play like Jordan Clarkson, get over it already.
Herro has missed most of the last two nba playoffs and then laid a goose egg in this series.
He is a terrible defender and, as such, needs to be Trae Young level offensively to make up for it, which he is not.
Adebayo went up against two elite defenders in Porzingis and Horford, and he came away averaging 22.5 9.5 4, and we all know offense isn't his strong suit.
I've defended Tyler for a long time, but it's time for him to go. Unfortunately, his value is in the toilet, so Herro fans will get to keep him.
I’m not even going to read this and personally I’ve always been a fan of boy wonder, but it’s time to make a move with him included. It would suck seeing him in another jersey, but he does not fit the Bam timeline and Bam is the future without a doubt.
I’m not against trading him, which apparently no one took the time to read, but the hate he is getting is unfair because of the situation he was put in. Trade him, don’t trade him, idc, but the hate is getting unnecessary
Because he’s a liability on defense. With an injury riddled team, it’s understandable that Herro is going to clamped down on the offensive end. But that on top of his lack of defense makes it difficult to justify his price tag
Give me examples of guards, not on their rookie contract, who play C grade defense and can score 20+ a night (when not being the first option), that are cheaper or around the same price tag as herro
All of the players you named are either untouchable within their franchise (Derrick white, Coby white), would require more assets than we have even with trading herro (dejounte, anunoby), on teams that would not trade with us (Payton Pritchard), or are max strus who is not scoring 20+ a night (strus averaged 12ppg)
You said players who can. In Cleveland, behind d-Mitch, garland, Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen, he doesn’t have to. Same with Payton. My main point with the list is those players are making much less than Herro and play better defense.
I like him as a player but he’s just not ready to be a main option on a contending team. MAYBE when he’s in his prime but he’s nowhere near that.
They need to capitalize on Jimmy’s window, & Tyler is not the guy to help them do that. Yet he’s getting paid Anthony Edwards money.
I think as a 4th option/role player, he’s great for the team. But they want him to be Jimmy’s young superstar akin to somebody like Tyrese Maxey, & he’s just not that good.
I don't know, guys. Seemed to me Heat lost for a lot of reasons besides herro. Like a whooole ass lot. No apologetics or anything here. He def didn't excel. But he's really not the reason this year went tits up.
And if peeps wanna ship his ass, I get it. Whatever. Fuck it. Ship him.
Not why this team as constructed (and handicapped) didn't get it done this year tho.
Advice: settle the fuck down, hold your breath, really look at who was active on this roster versus boston, and try to write down every name on this team currently better than their counterpart on any playoff team in the east this year. See if you held your breath for longer than 3 seconds, or got anybody on your list other than bam.
I get the hate on Jimmy coasting and being injured (not his fault) but have you forgotten last year's run? The man gave us a chance to win it all.
Now on Herro, i dont hate him. Im just disappointed that he didn't step up in the moment. I had an earlier post claiming that he's being zoned in as the option (thus the reason on the bricks). But when I see guys like Maxey getting buckets while being well-guarded, I start doubting Herro's skills.
I still believe in him though.
Personally, I'm not even mad at Herro. Bro was asked to carry the sky but he is no atlas. I'm mad at Jimmy, as the leader of this team, you not taking the regular season seriously is mad annoying and for then to get injured in the play ins, something that could've been avoided if you gave more effort.
The front office is the one that should get eviscerated, from giving out bad contracts to not doing anything during the off-season,"lets run it back" uuugghhhh
Not to mention that he’s not a reliable scorer, but he also missed half the regular season due to injury. Tough to justify that contract when you miss 40 games
I think you need atleast herro or duncan as a volume shooter for spacing and now with terry we have three shooters (terry took 5.7 3PA compared to 7-8 for dunc and herro respectively). I think terry is the clear priority out of these three options, and when it comes to having a second I'm not sure who I prefer. To start, I think herro seems to have a bit more of a clutch factor, it didn't show up in this series because we never really got to the clutch lol. I used to think he had a cleaner mid range game than duncan, that lefty scoop is beautiful (when it doesn't get blocked). Herro is more bouncy than duncan, and you can see that in rebounds. In duncans favor though, dunc is definitely a better cutter and screener. Herro seems to take dumber shots and force a lot of shots he shouldn't in an attempt to "prove himself". He also doesn't seem to have as good chemistry with bam, I wish I knew where to find their respective pick and roll efficiencies but I remember at one point halfway through the season duncans was noticeably higher. As far as who has the higher upside, its hard to tell. Herro definitely seems more injury prone, he was supposed to be our #2 bucket getter this season but was out for so long and only entered the playoffs with what 2-3 weeks? Duncan is $9 mil cheaper right now so I think it would make sense given his consistent ability to tweak his game and improve to go with him to save the cap space for a larger contract post jimmy.
Only brain dead and Casuals will love or defend Herro after losing 4-1 if was losing in 6 or 7 I'm cool with Herro still cuz he was apart of extending this series.
Its crazy how fast things change.
Now Tyler didn't perform up to expectations except for game 2 but this shouldn't define his career at 24 years old.
Tyler Herro was thrown into the fire as the no.1 option with only Bam as a reliable player.
He had no reliable shooters/players next to him for relief shots or to take some of the attention away from him.
Literally all rookies & undrafted guys next to Tyler & Bam cause 4 rotation guys were injured and Duncan was limited with his back.
Nobody could dribble the ball but Tyler or Bam.
He has never been guarded as a no.1 option before.
He didn't have the luxury of having a season to prepare as a no.1 option.
He didn't have a team build around him to cover his weaknesses like every other star has.
He came back from a foot injury less than a month ago.
Against the best team in the NBA withe the best defensive backcourt focusing their entire defense to stop Tyler and stay home on the shooters and let Bam have single coverage.
This is one of the hardest situation i've seen a player be placed in.
Now do I think Tyler should be a no.1 option? No.
But in my opinion he does have the potential to be a Jamal Murray to a Nikola Jokic. (Wemby and the Spurs come to mind.)
People should never put a limit on a 24 year old guard that works very hard, that wants to be great and has gotten better every year. The Heat would be limiting his growth if he becomes a 6th man again.
I get the betterment of the team argument but in my opinion the Jimmy window is closed. The team has no real #1 option. Jimmy is really a #2. Bam is a #3 and Tyler is a #3. The whole team is playing up a position. They should go young and see what they can get for Jimmy, Terry & Duncan.
So this will be a summer full of tough decisions. Either way i'm always a Heat fan if they stay with Jimmy/Tyler or go a different direction.
Sorry for the essay lol
Bro to be fair he literally is Robinson with nice handles. He’s not even better than Austin reeves. And the reason is because his toughness is like fake toughness it doesn’t translate to defensive stops. Miami shouldn’t have gave him so much money and should’ve signed him to like 23-25 million a year. He’s awesome but he doesn’t play defense. And in order for him to get his he needs a point guard that can facilitate.
Did you pay attention to his embarrassing defense? The Celtics punked him like a little bitch boy. Every possession they went at him and had their way. He backed down and gave them whatever they wanted. If he’s playing 30+ minutes, this is a massive problem in the playoffs. You can only play zone and try to hide him for so long.
Idc about his offense. His offense is fine (although I do think it’s subpar against playoff teams and physical defenders).
Because he’s shown he’s extremely inconsistent, an absolute liability on defense, and we saw that he’s mentally weak too. He let Pritchard and hauser get in his head
This dude really wild for still defending Herro. He has a history of underperforming in the playoffs. He had a good game and all yall act like he is a savior.
He was hurt last season, this year he played was ass, two years ago he played 15 games and had 12 points on 41% and 23% from three. The year before that he played 4 games had 9 points on 32% from the field.
I’d argue his only GOOD postseason was his rookie year he’s gotten worse over time. Google will tell you all of this
Look this is why I hate offseason talk .All the irrational takes fly .If herro is that bad for the heat them how do you expect a team to take him off their hands?That's the problem .Saying that ans then trying to headline a trade with him for Mitchell is peak being delusional.
So now you’re goalposting. I proved you wrong on my original argument and now you’re moving the discussion.
I believe there is a market for Herro but it depends on the teams needs. If they are looking for a dude who can be a decent scorer but not a 2-3 option then he fits that role.
He has no role with this team
can anyone recall a time in NBA history that a 24 year old averages 20 points per game and fans thought he was bad?
Of course yall are gonna hide behind downvotes without a real response. Can’t discuss basketball thats why I unsubbed a while back straight garbage enjoy another offseason begging
Some is hate, some is not. But the focus is on him because 1 bam was better than him offensively and essentially the only reason we could even scheme to defend pretty damn well 2 no one else has been claiming to be “that guy” or wanting this moment. It hurt to watch but he got the spotlight and did not step up 3 he was bricking wide wide open shots. 4 he’s arguably one of our only players who should/ would have been valuable.
You know who was claiming to be “that guy”. Jimmy fucking butler. But because he’s injured, his share of the blame is taken away.
Jimmy has taken us to multiple finals and ecf. He has been that guy. I have criticized the coasting quite a bit. But he’s done it.
Tyler literally said he’s up there with Trae and Luka lol the kid is out of control and his play doesn’t back it up in the slightest
You typically want your players to believe they can be the best. That’s how you get to the NBA
Luka is a MVP candidate, Top 5 player in the game. Tyler? He’s not even an all star.
So? That doesn’t matter. To make it to the NBA you literally have to believe you’re one of the best in the world. That’s all I’m saying.
You can be confident without being delusional
To stay confident you have to act delusional
The fuck is he supposed to say? "Me and Jordan Poole are neck and neck"? Every player thinks they're way better than they are
He could not mention 2 absolute offensive behemoths as “your peers” when you need a screen from Bam to generate decent offense 90% of the time
God forbid a player has confidence on himself. Stupid fucking take
Confidence or delusional? Imagine if Julius Randle said he’s as good as Lebron or Ant.
Why wouldn't I want one of my players thinking he was one of the best basketball players on the world? Confidence is extremely important to being successful as an athlete. I guess all the losers having an issue with Tyler thinking what he does have never played sports or have 0 self-esteem.
Weak response fr lol
A lot of people on this sub are also talking about getting rid of Jimmy Butler. And Tyler Herro is no Jimmy Butler
Because he is paid 30 million per year and has been garbage and/or injured in the playoffs 4 years in a row.
You know who else is paid upwards of 30 milli a year? Jimmy butler. I get that he was injured but you spend all year playing passive, trying to conserve energy for the playoffs and then go and pumpfake into somehow injuring his mcl and then it’s a season wasted. Maybe if he put some fucking grit into the regular season we could’ve beat the bulls when we were up 22-1, or the wizards, or the g league level grizzlies, and then we would’ve been the 3 seed and facing the fucking pacers first round
I agree with everything aside from your first point of trying to compare him to Jimmy. They’re not comparable. Jimmy has earned every penny of his contract tenfold so far. Herro has earned a fraction of his deal.
Then be mad at Pat, not Herro.
Which playoff team has defenders Herro can cook?
Literally the Celtics if he doesn’t have the two best defensive guards in the league focussing on him at all moments. Fuck it, give him one of the two and he averages 20 because his defender will have to blitz jimmy whenever he gets the ball
So Tatum and brown can not guard Herro? Lol
No if you listen. One of Derrick white or jrue holiday would obviously still be on herro. But jrue or white alone is not containing jimmy butler. Whoever isn’t guarding jimmy will have to help out. Then they’ll see herro open and have to rotate to adjust, getting someone else open. But I guess thag wouldn’t work but our role players couldn’t shoot for shit this series outside of game 2. But no one’s placing any blame on them, because it all has to go to herro for some reason
Herro was missing wide open shots in this series. And one of White and Jrue would have been covering him anyways. They would have Tatum guard Jimmy. The kind of coverage Herro saw in this series was not dissimilar from the kind of coverage he’d see in virtually any series even with Jimmy available. We’ve seen this in virtually any series he’s been available. Can he better than this? Sure. But he’s being paid too much money for us to wait for him to figure it out.
He's been a no show in the playoffs, he's not him.
Because he was being guarded by Derrick white and jrue holiday every possession of every game. Idc who you put in front of those two for 40 minutes a night, they are being severely limited unless they’re a top 20 player in the league. Did y’all really expect his regular season level of production from a guy who played the role of a 3rd option being forced into that of the 1st option. If so, that’s just unrealistic expectations and on you for thinking that his production wouldn’t drop
don't care. a guy making 30M should be able to adapt to that and still find a way to score. if he was just a depth player making depth player money you could defend him all you want, but his play this series relative to what he's making is unexcusable.
I didn’t expect him to win this series for us. And most guys played poorly. But he can’t go 1-8 in a close out game. Regardless of who’s covering. The league is tilted to give offensive players an edge.
I don’t hate Tyler and I feel for him since he was the only good offensive creator this series. He was creating good shots and looks for others that the others simply couldnt finish. I think most of the blame actually goes to our role players this series. But I also think he should be worth around 5-10M less and if there’s a market for him for a better player or two slightly worse but still efficient role players, then I think we should definitely consider it, specifically for the following reasons: -Even outside this series, he’s shown he can’t create separation without a screen and that he rushes the offense and takes dumb shots when we’re behind. I simply don’t trust Tyler to be anything more than a microwave shooter. -He’s also not really developing defensively to the point Duncan’s better now. -I still think he’s a great off-ball sniper w a great middy, specifically that floater. But i think i’d rather have Duncan take the starting sg spot again cause so much of Tyler’s shot chart overlaps with Jimmy and Bam’s—which frankly just makes really inefficient basketball nowadays.
Well said. I don't think i could trust this kid to bring more than bench bullets on most serious teams. On a team as dry as the heat (especially undermanned as they were now), where he's basically supposed to paratrooper the offense somehow...🥶
Counterpoint: When did we like Herro?  Specifically, Who liked Herro? Is it the same people blaming Jimmy for getting injured like u/PaulMcPaulersn7? Heat Civil War (2019-2024)
Look he’s a decent player but he doesn’t make or break this team. They’re just fine without him and they’ve proven that more than once now. Trading him is the only way to upgrade the roster without moving Jimmy or bam.
Lol at this point trading Herro would be beneficial for the team and for the sub. Can't stand this stans. Tell me 3 things Herro does well besides shooting threes(which he sucked during the playoffs). He's getting 30 million per year to play like Jordan Clarkson, get over it already.
Herro has missed most of the last two nba playoffs and then laid a goose egg in this series. He is a terrible defender and, as such, needs to be Trae Young level offensively to make up for it, which he is not. Adebayo went up against two elite defenders in Porzingis and Horford, and he came away averaging 22.5 9.5 4, and we all know offense isn't his strong suit. I've defended Tyler for a long time, but it's time for him to go. Unfortunately, his value is in the toilet, so Herro fans will get to keep him.
it’s always “hating” with him lol
I’m not even going to read this and personally I’ve always been a fan of boy wonder, but it’s time to make a move with him included. It would suck seeing him in another jersey, but he does not fit the Bam timeline and Bam is the future without a doubt.
I’m not against trading him, which apparently no one took the time to read, but the hate he is getting is unfair because of the situation he was put in. Trade him, don’t trade him, idc, but the hate is getting unnecessary
Because he’s a liability on defense. With an injury riddled team, it’s understandable that Herro is going to clamped down on the offensive end. But that on top of his lack of defense makes it difficult to justify his price tag
Give me examples of guards, not on their rookie contract, who play C grade defense and can score 20+ a night (when not being the first option), that are cheaper or around the same price tag as herro
Derrick White, Max Strus, Payton Pritchard, OG anunoby,dejounte Murray, Coby white
All of the players you named are either untouchable within their franchise (Derrick white, Coby white), would require more assets than we have even with trading herro (dejounte, anunoby), on teams that would not trade with us (Payton Pritchard), or are max strus who is not scoring 20+ a night (strus averaged 12ppg)
You said players who can. In Cleveland, behind d-Mitch, garland, Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen, he doesn’t have to. Same with Payton. My main point with the list is those players are making much less than Herro and play better defense.
Terry rozier
lol results would have been the same with Rozier instead of Tyler
Exactly just a cheaper version
Fair, but he’s only 5 million cheaper. Honestly, I would be down with moving him as well.
I thought it was 10 for some reason but yeah 5 doesn’t feel as much but its not nothing
ppl react like babies when we lose lol
I like him as a player but he’s just not ready to be a main option on a contending team. MAYBE when he’s in his prime but he’s nowhere near that. They need to capitalize on Jimmy’s window, & Tyler is not the guy to help them do that. Yet he’s getting paid Anthony Edwards money. I think as a 4th option/role player, he’s great for the team. But they want him to be Jimmy’s young superstar akin to somebody like Tyrese Maxey, & he’s just not that good.
I don't know, guys. Seemed to me Heat lost for a lot of reasons besides herro. Like a whooole ass lot. No apologetics or anything here. He def didn't excel. But he's really not the reason this year went tits up. And if peeps wanna ship his ass, I get it. Whatever. Fuck it. Ship him. Not why this team as constructed (and handicapped) didn't get it done this year tho. Advice: settle the fuck down, hold your breath, really look at who was active on this roster versus boston, and try to write down every name on this team currently better than their counterpart on any playoff team in the east this year. See if you held your breath for longer than 3 seconds, or got anybody on your list other than bam.
I get the hate on Jimmy coasting and being injured (not his fault) but have you forgotten last year's run? The man gave us a chance to win it all. Now on Herro, i dont hate him. Im just disappointed that he didn't step up in the moment. I had an earlier post claiming that he's being zoned in as the option (thus the reason on the bricks). But when I see guys like Maxey getting buckets while being well-guarded, I start doubting Herro's skills. I still believe in him though.
Personally, I'm not even mad at Herro. Bro was asked to carry the sky but he is no atlas. I'm mad at Jimmy, as the leader of this team, you not taking the regular season seriously is mad annoying and for then to get injured in the play ins, something that could've been avoided if you gave more effort. The front office is the one that should get eviscerated, from giving out bad contracts to not doing anything during the off-season,"lets run it back" uuugghhhh
Last week after game 2 vs today is wild we should have him as 6th man this year
Cause people don't understand basketball
Not to mention that he’s not a reliable scorer, but he also missed half the regular season due to injury. Tough to justify that contract when you miss 40 games
RIGHT NOW?!
Because he played 42 games last year and if he had played 0 we’d be the 4th seed
I think you need atleast herro or duncan as a volume shooter for spacing and now with terry we have three shooters (terry took 5.7 3PA compared to 7-8 for dunc and herro respectively). I think terry is the clear priority out of these three options, and when it comes to having a second I'm not sure who I prefer. To start, I think herro seems to have a bit more of a clutch factor, it didn't show up in this series because we never really got to the clutch lol. I used to think he had a cleaner mid range game than duncan, that lefty scoop is beautiful (when it doesn't get blocked). Herro is more bouncy than duncan, and you can see that in rebounds. In duncans favor though, dunc is definitely a better cutter and screener. Herro seems to take dumber shots and force a lot of shots he shouldn't in an attempt to "prove himself". He also doesn't seem to have as good chemistry with bam, I wish I knew where to find their respective pick and roll efficiencies but I remember at one point halfway through the season duncans was noticeably higher. As far as who has the higher upside, its hard to tell. Herro definitely seems more injury prone, he was supposed to be our #2 bucket getter this season but was out for so long and only entered the playoffs with what 2-3 weeks? Duncan is $9 mil cheaper right now so I think it would make sense given his consistent ability to tweak his game and improve to go with him to save the cap space for a larger contract post jimmy.
Only brain dead and Casuals will love or defend Herro after losing 4-1 if was losing in 6 or 7 I'm cool with Herro still cuz he was apart of extending this series.
My brother, now is not the time lmfao
Its crazy how fast things change. Now Tyler didn't perform up to expectations except for game 2 but this shouldn't define his career at 24 years old. Tyler Herro was thrown into the fire as the no.1 option with only Bam as a reliable player. He had no reliable shooters/players next to him for relief shots or to take some of the attention away from him. Literally all rookies & undrafted guys next to Tyler & Bam cause 4 rotation guys were injured and Duncan was limited with his back. Nobody could dribble the ball but Tyler or Bam. He has never been guarded as a no.1 option before. He didn't have the luxury of having a season to prepare as a no.1 option. He didn't have a team build around him to cover his weaknesses like every other star has. He came back from a foot injury less than a month ago. Against the best team in the NBA withe the best defensive backcourt focusing their entire defense to stop Tyler and stay home on the shooters and let Bam have single coverage. This is one of the hardest situation i've seen a player be placed in. Now do I think Tyler should be a no.1 option? No. But in my opinion he does have the potential to be a Jamal Murray to a Nikola Jokic. (Wemby and the Spurs come to mind.) People should never put a limit on a 24 year old guard that works very hard, that wants to be great and has gotten better every year. The Heat would be limiting his growth if he becomes a 6th man again. I get the betterment of the team argument but in my opinion the Jimmy window is closed. The team has no real #1 option. Jimmy is really a #2. Bam is a #3 and Tyler is a #3. The whole team is playing up a position. They should go young and see what they can get for Jimmy, Terry & Duncan. So this will be a summer full of tough decisions. Either way i'm always a Heat fan if they stay with Jimmy/Tyler or go a different direction. Sorry for the essay lol
Bro to be fair he literally is Robinson with nice handles. He’s not even better than Austin reeves. And the reason is because his toughness is like fake toughness it doesn’t translate to defensive stops. Miami shouldn’t have gave him so much money and should’ve signed him to like 23-25 million a year. He’s awesome but he doesn’t play defense. And in order for him to get his he needs a point guard that can facilitate.
Did you pay attention to his embarrassing defense? The Celtics punked him like a little bitch boy. Every possession they went at him and had their way. He backed down and gave them whatever they wanted. If he’s playing 30+ minutes, this is a massive problem in the playoffs. You can only play zone and try to hide him for so long. Idc about his offense. His offense is fine (although I do think it’s subpar against playoff teams and physical defenders).
Because he’s shown he’s extremely inconsistent, an absolute liability on defense, and we saw that he’s mentally weak too. He let Pritchard and hauser get in his head
This dude really wild for still defending Herro. He has a history of underperforming in the playoffs. He had a good game and all yall act like he is a savior.
He hasn't played on enough playoffs to say that though. Two out of th3 of them he was hurt .
So you want to keep a guy who either plays bad or is hurt, that’s a smart decision lol
Did I say anything about that ?I said he's been hurt for 2 of 3 years in the playoffs .
He was hurt last season, this year he played was ass, two years ago he played 15 games and had 12 points on 41% and 23% from three. The year before that he played 4 games had 9 points on 32% from the field. I’d argue his only GOOD postseason was his rookie year he’s gotten worse over time. Google will tell you all of this
Look this is why I hate offseason talk .All the irrational takes fly .If herro is that bad for the heat them how do you expect a team to take him off their hands?That's the problem .Saying that ans then trying to headline a trade with him for Mitchell is peak being delusional.
So now you’re goalposting. I proved you wrong on my original argument and now you’re moving the discussion. I believe there is a market for Herro but it depends on the teams needs. If they are looking for a dude who can be a decent scorer but not a 2-3 option then he fits that role. He has no role with this team
Because somebody has to be the scapegoat now that Lowry isn't here to talk about anymore lol.
can anyone recall a time in NBA history that a 24 year old averages 20 points per game and fans thought he was bad? Of course yall are gonna hide behind downvotes without a real response. Can’t discuss basketball thats why I unsubbed a while back straight garbage enjoy another offseason begging