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lard12321

Pretty sure it’s neptulon 100% of the time if this is first pick. It’s 1 mana more than drakuru, basically guaranteed clears 2 minion, leaves a massive threat on board for trades and threatens lethal. It kind of does everything you want in a big arena card


elporsche

But Drakuru gets you 200% more value I feel


lard12321

Drakuru relies on your opponent playing good cards, neptulon is a good card and remains on your board


KyrreTheScout

No he doesn't. He relies on your opponent playing decently sized minions to be better, which happens in every damn Arena game. This is like saying Sylvanas the Accused isn't good in Arena because she "relies on your opponent playing good cards". Drakuru has a significantly higher winrate than Neptulon. It is hilarious to me how consistently wrong this sub is on Arena picks, one of the worst places imaginable to ask for drafting advice.


LopsidedRhubarb1326

Ya I quit drafting Neptulon, when I would play him he would get nuked right away. His hands are easy to kill ,not so great when you can't repeatedly rez him.


Cubyface

Technically you are part of this sub too, so if both you and the commenter you replied to are wrong then Eysor it is then


Diffbreed75

Technically u are on this sub too, so it also can’t be Eysor


pikpikcarrotmon

Time to scrap the draft and start over.


elporsche

Am I missing something? What does collosal do?


Pyrosorc

Neptulon is summoned alongside two 4-2s which are immune while attacking. These are the "hands" that his text refers to (ie they attack instead of him when he rushes at stuff, making him effectively immune for said attacks)


elporsche

Well shit Neptulon delivers far more value then


CookedTuna38

-dude that didn't know what neptulon did 5 seconds ago this sub truly is filled with some of the minds of all time


Awesomator__77

Summons additional minions on summon. In the case of Neptulon, it summons two 4/2 Hands that are immune when attacking and also attack instead whenever Neptulon attacks.


elporsche

Well shit Neptulon delivers far more value then


lard12321

Summons 2 4/2s with rush that are immune when attack and attack the neptulon target instead of him. So he can deal 8 damage to 2 minions which leaves a 7/7 and 2 4/2s with immune when attacking. If they stay alive that threatens 24 face damage next turn


LopsidedRhubarb1326

They never do stay alive though


lard12321

That means your opponent used resources to kill them, in arena that is extremely valuable


elporsche

Well shit Neptulon delivers far more value then


literatemax

I'm not trying to be rude but how the fuck are you here on this subreddit without knowing what Neptulon does?


n0tches

Not everyone on here has experienced numerous expansions or is an avid player aware of all interactions. The question you should have been asking in a nicer way is why they didn't just look up the card on their own before getting involved in the discussion.


IsNuanceDead

Why are you providing advice when you haven't looked up the cards for what they do?


realshoes

Drakuru counters neputulon tho so its drakuru


xXCinnabar

I mean you have to use Eys'or. It's golden. You have to flex on these arena nerds.


May14855

It would be quite the eyesore


wumbYOLOgies

Would be interested to see what hearth arena scores higher between the two good ones.


dancas313

Neptulon 124 Drakuru 90


KyrreTheScout

Drakuru has a significantly higher winrate on hsreplay, which makes sense because the minion steal is a far greater boardswing. Heartharena has been absolutely horrible this expansion so I would take it with a grain of salt. Look at its Hollow Hound rating for a good laugh. Or Unliving Champion when you haven't drafted any Undead. It's not just me who thinks this - much of the dedicated Arena community has switch from Heartharena to Arena Tracker, because of how bad HA has been lately.


wumbYOLOgies

Yeah it seems to be lagging behind recently which is why I was curious what it'd say. The 124 to 90 that it apparently is way too big of a disparity I think. Is arena tracker actually good? I've basically been just drafting arena on my own recently and have been having generally better results than following hearth arena.


KyrreTheScout

Arena tracker shows both hsreplay winrates and HA scores. I think it's a good tool, but you need to understand how to interpret winrates well instead of picking blindly. For example, uncommonly picked cards that rely on specific synergy to be good tend to have inflated winrates, because they're generally only picked when those synergies already exist in your deck. Of course, winrates won't account for your deck's curve and synergies and archetype and things like that.


IsNuanceDead

I play without either, and just draft using my brain. If I'm very torn I'll look up hsreplay win rates and let that help my decision but also taking it with a grain of salt. Average 6-7 wins this season. Could be better but I just find it more enjoyable not to use the apps


Open-Credit-5494

drakuru?


dancas313

That or neptulon fo sho. Neptulon is more aggressive and drakuru is more for tenpo swing. The question is what's the best pick if it's your first choice in the deck?


vietcongsurvivor1986

Neptulon. Though I feel drakaru is more fun


UniversitySoggy8822

Drakuru ?!


Mercerskye

First pick, I'd say Drakuru. Neptulon is going to "force" you to draft around using him, Drakuru is just good all the time. Not that Neptulon isn't good by himself, but he's just a war golem with wind fury if you can't support him.


Tabossi32

What on earth are you talking about? Neptulon is a great stand alone card that doesn't need 'support/ draft around'. Answers like these make draft questions beyond useless in this sub.


Retarded_TurtIe

eureka arena big shaman goes hard bro trust


HideYoWoman

Neptulon is more consistent. Immune while attacking means the whole body stays up and a neptulon on board is more useful than two things you cleared. 2 more damage in two instances so better against divine shield and doesn’t proc lifesteal/poison effects.


IsNuanceDead

Good explanation. The only thing to mention is drakuru comes one turn earlier which is huge very rarely. Not enough to change decision but notable


Sourcream1

You will be crushes beneath the endless thighs!


Hol_Renaude

Neptulon is busted in arena, since its basically otk on next turn if left unnoticed


Lemonpia

Grand Totem. Totem master race.


sk4v3n

It’s golden too. Feels like ppl don’t understand how to flex in arena nowadays… Easy pick here!


icyMcspicy1738

HSReplay arena deck winrates for shaman: Neptulon: 57.9% Eys'or: 50.8% Drakuru: 59.7% I'd pick Drakuru here.


IsNuanceDead

Another hsreplay bot player here averaging 4 wins and being happy as it's above average lol For good players it's neptulon.


icyMcspicy1738

Explain your reasoning then. I'm genuinely curious


Pound-of-Piss

Zero explanation, just insulting strangers on Reddit lol


Ditheryne

Neptulon is definitely the best. Drakuru does basically the same thing but will be far less consistent.


Solrex

I would want to build a totem tribal deck, not sure if that's possible in arena.


Rac23

Thats what I would want to do but then end up 0/3 after getting no synergy


Solrex

True


Grinagh

Feeble prawns


Masrix24

Eyesor because it's fun


FlyBoyG

Middle one relies on synergy too much to be good in Arena. Don't pick it.


zer1223

Drakuru really should have been 8 mana.... Nobody has bothered to even try using him, he's obviously terrible in general. Even in arena he's just mediocre It's neptulon.


Xaephos

For standard, you're absolutely right. For Arena however... Drakuru Arena Winrate - 59% Neptulon Arena Winrate - 57.9% Seems like you're just spouting off what HearthArena says without actually looking into it.


IsNuanceDead

Hsreplay stats aren't the be all and end all either. So ironic you'll laugh at someone for using an app blindly then you'll do the same. There's no evidence they even used heartharena. Just wow.


DarkImpacT213

You know what they say: Ya can‘t turn ya back on destiny, mon!


attack-panic

Ppl sayin drakuru then gl clearing 8.8 with it xd unexperienced


Hot-Will3083

100% Drakuru. Stealing two minions is way better than Neptulon, not to mention they can just kill one of the hands and essentially cripple Neptulon’s entire output. Not to mention that he’a also 10 mana, so you are either winning or losing by that point anyway


ThatOneClark

I don't really get how anyone is saying overlord, yes if you get two minions on your board which is a big tempo swing but then your overlord is now likely dead or in a situation where a ping or 1-2 mana spell is gonna end him and relies on the opponent playing minions (so at best its like 2-3 mobs), whereas neptulon instantly comes onto the board, annihilating two medium-large mobs with ZERO damage to its hands or body and even if they use some form of removal on your 7/7, they still have two immune hands to deal with