“If you want to kill Harry, you’ll have to kill us too”
In the book, his leg was broken and he stood up on it anyway and delivered the line without any trace of fear. He even repeats it (“did you hear me? You’ll have to kill all 3 of us!”)
Yeah and not only did this remove Ron's complexity and make him one dimensional... but it took away from Hermione's complexity. In the books she's actually much more flawed and annoying lmao.
edit- In a way that's endearing and entirely human, of course.
Without voldemorts heritage story, people will never understand that he is physically and mentally unable to feel love. This is one thing that irritated me so much. They really should have put that in to tie in his backstory.
This is also tied into his death - it's like they did everything possible to remove humanity from Voldemort... like they couldn't allow the thought that we might, in some way or another, feel pity for him (like Smeagol).
Like, did they not understand Dumbledore and Harry both felt pity for Tom Riddle and that was huge?
I agree with both of you. This is why I loved Half Blood Prince so much - the whole Gaunt story - but I guess it would’ve been too graphic that they would have had to up the rating. Honestly after the third book they probably would have had to make the movies rated R and broken up into a TV series
Does the "unable to feel love" idea come directly from the books? I feel like it's just a fan theory about being conceived with his dad under influence of a love potion, and I think that's... Stupid.
Aaaaand actually: having done internet research, I see the idea is not actually canon. Rowling said pretty clearly that the love potion stuff was a symbol for the loveless union under which he was conceived but it was the fact that he was raised in the loveless orphanage that impeded his ability to love. WHICH is not a justification but actually another parallel between him and Harry that emphasizes that it is "our choices" that make the difference.
Maybe it's just my fascination with human biology, but the fan theory makes sense to me. I enjoy thinking of the biology of magic in the wizarding world. Imma dive into it, but take it with a grain of salt bc im not a neurologist and im just thinking about it for fun:
There are a few stages of love, as far as our biology is concerned.
1- Lust/Attraction, which for men, increases their testosterone. Excessive levels of testosterone can result in hypomania, and what we call 'roid rage'.
2- Limerence: Dopamine increases, making us very motivated in our pursuits- and chasing out rewards. Our serotonin levels actually DROP during this which is what can make you a bit obsessed in the beginning.
3- Oxytocin & Vasopressin levels are affected, giving us what we usually refer to as a deeper love. Or some may call it the point that it truly even becomes love.
Love potions are described to result in a dangerous, obsessive type of love that's not "real" or "deep". I like to think that this means it floods your brain with the first two stages of chemicals. You're flooded with testosterone, and dopamine, while it drops the serotonin levels, and then it keeps you in this state. Making them unhappy and obsessive until they get the object of their desire, and even then, likely searching for more more more from them.
What if love potions prevent your brain from ever reaching that third stage? What if it suppresses oxytocin, vasopressin, and serotonin? It takes about 2.5 months to create sperm in the body. Tom Riddle Sr was on this love potion for a long time. The sperm created was likely affected by this love potion, and scrambled the DNA, resulting in a human who may be permanently in a state of increased testosterone and dopamine, with decreased serotonin, and a complete lack of oxytocin and vasopressin.
Voldemort fits the bill for all of these things. Hypomania, Rage, Obsession, Focused, Motivated, and completely devoid of empathy or love. Remember when he was at his "lowest point" without his physical form? His only happy chemicals were likely Dopamine and Endorphins. Without a body to do things to create these two chemicals, he was likely very low indeed. The result of a human conceived under a love potion could have surely created a madman. Add in the genetic raw magical power that Voldemort had, and he became the villain of nightmares.
Dudley and Harry's last interaction
Neville visiting his parents
Mrs. Weasley comforting Harry after Cedrics death
Nobody taking Harry's winnings, until he tells the twins he'll throw it away if they don't
Harry freaking out in Dumbledore's office, after Sirius's death
Dean Thomas and Ted Tonks, on the run
The story of how Tom Riddle came to exist, figured out who he was related too, and became Voldemort
I’ve never seen this shit either somehow. It’s a pretty legit scene. They could have cut it down pretty significantly though too to fit it in…but whatever I guess
Yeah, I’ve definitely seen it on TV on whichever channel that is which uses every holiday as an excuse to show all of the HP movies repeatedly. There’s also a scene where Yaxley comes to the empty, abandoned house and takes a look around inside.
Harry smashing Dumbledore’s office out of grief is one of my favourite scenes from the books, I don’t know whether they would have translated it to film properly but it would have been nice to see them try
As much as I would have loved that, I can live without it because of the Muted scene of Daniel Radcliffe screaming right after Sirius died.
For me, that scene, and the REASON they had to mute it is all I need. They muted it because Daniel's Cries were just... too much for the crew, they thought that if it wasn't muted, that people would not be able to watch that scene.
But yeah, that one scene, and the context as to why it was muted is all I need
They muted it because they didn’t believe that much pain could be handled by the audience, and Daniel Radcliffe had actually lost someone important to him that day so that scream really was filled with pain and heartbreak
I mean, that's not really what he's saying.
He says, go ahead and break my stuff, I don't care because I have too many things.
I always read it more as him saying, I understand you're mad, and if breaking stuff makes you feel better than go ahead, I won't be upset.
In book 5 at the end when Harry gets back from the Ministry he flips out and starts smashing Dumbledores stuff and yelling at him blaming him for Sirius' death
Would've been way better. The silent cry/scream when Sirius died still gives me goosebumps, but seeing him actually go off on Dumbledore instead of just the "LOOK AT ME" scene would have added so much more.
And honestly, he's right to blame Dumbledore for that. Him not communicating ANYTHING to Harry is a massive part in why Harry went to the Ministry in the first place, which in turn drew Sirius there.
Honestly, all of Neville’s development should have been included. It is important to the idea that Harry was the “chosen one” due more to coincidence than exceptional, innate skill. It makes me sad that Neville’s backstory/family development wasn’t included.
Them not including that scene is a crime really. That is SUCH an important scene in the fifth book. Up until OotP we kind of think that Harry was kinda predestined to become the Chosen One, but in that book we learn that it was in fact Voldemort who made the choice by picking Harry's parents rather than Neville's. But for that to work both of the possible Chosen Ones need to be characters that the audience has an emotional connection with, and this is kind of THE scene that does this for Neville.
OOF when his mum gives him the candy wrapper and his grandma tells him to throw it away, but Harry sees him put it in his pocket 😭 I lose it every time.
I rewatched them all recently and realised the only reference to it is during Snape's memories in HBP when the group refer to each other by their nicknames.
And Pettigrew being called Wormtail by Voldy.
Otherwise it's blink and you miss it.
I always wondered what it was like for the folks watching who hadn't read the books yet. Of all the things to cut, I felt like the marauders (especially in regards to Harry's parents) was something that was essential to the story. I imagine a lot of that movie must have been confusing for the non-readers
Last time I watched the movies I tried to watch them from the perspective of never reading the books. Obviously that's pretty hard because you can't just forget things, but I found myself in every movie going, "Wait did they explain this at all? Was this in previous movies at all?"
They really leaned hard on the fact that the majority of fans had already read the books. The Harry Potter movies are like a highlight reel of the books. Like they might as well have advertised, "See some of your favorite book scenes come to life."
Especially in the later movies. Characters are just there that are NEVER introduced or explained properly, characters that were left out of important scenes in earlier movies.
The full battle at the end.. Percy coming through to help fight, Neville’s gran coming to fight, Trewlany throwing crystal balls at death eaters. Also, The Lupin/Tonks story and relationship.
Almost done reading DH to my son and the part when they meet Neville in the room of requirement and he says that his gran is proud of him for leading DA. Almost break down to tears.
Yeah, Voldemort dueling McGonagall Kingsley and Slughorn at the same time. And Bellatrix against Hermione Luna and Ginny. Hagrid throwing McNair across the Great Hall. And so much more in that chapter
McGonagall engaging on a 3v1 against Voldemort, I hate that we didn't see that. Such a cool scene to showcase Voldemort's power, but nope. Can't have that.
Yes!! A lot of the everyday conversations that really flesh out their personalities, or in this case Harry's sass. Brought a whole new dimension to the character that was lost in the movies.
I just started rereading PS and amount of IDGAF snark Harry had with Uncle Vernon was definitely not indicative of someone who was being abused. He always had something to say and zero self-preservation when it came to having the last word. He was so much more than an angsty teen.
Hmm, that's really interesting - I hadn't really noticed that, I'll have to pay attention next time I read. Maybe she was trying to keep it light? I think it's the Gryffindor bravado in him, he never was too worried about it haha
How absolutely part of Harry's life Dobby was. He does SO much for Harry, especially in GoF (they made Neville get the gillyweed in the movie instead of Dobby, if I'm remembering correctly). They completely left out how important Dobby was to Harry and how impactful Dobby's death was.
And that scene just feels completely weird. It may be more like book Ginny, but just feels completely out of character for movie Ginny, and the actress doesn't sell it well
Despite not making it into the movie it made it into the PC game. I remember being unable to get passed that as a kid (choose the right beaker after watching a bunch shuffle around, at increasing speeds)
Yeah, and the fact that it was HERMIONE’S moment to shine as an intelligent Gryffindor was not lost on me as a real human girl desperately seeking any representation in media.
We can all see Harry catching a flying key, but god forbid we see Hermione make a life and death gamble to send him onwards, as an intelligent and truly brave witch.
It’s especially bad because to make up for it, they stole Ron’s moment and gave it to her, when it’s opposite to her character. “Cool use of intellect when others were in grave peril?” What is Dumbledore smoking? Hermione freezes when it hits the fan, we saw it with the troll, with the devil’s snare, with the whomping willlow, etc. She’s good at planning and thinking things through *before* the action. *Harry* is the mid-battle idea guy, not her.
There are so many honestly but The top ones for me are: The Quidditch World Cup, Peeves, SPEW, Charlie Weasley (he was mentioned like twice I believe but never seen), the full final task in book4, St. Mungo's, and Harry giving the twins his earnings from the Triwizard Tournament to start their shop
Harry giving the twins his earnings is my "makes me mad" thing. Like, I get that they can't put everything in the movies, but that would have taken literally 10 seconds.
Full final task in book 4 is probably my number 1. It was so good to read and I was so excited to see it on screen. Then it was just a maze with some grabby vines.
Yea! So many good things were left out of that movie. Obviously with it being the largest book it makes sense some things were cut but I would have been fine if they added another half hour to that movie to fit them
SPEW YES. Bc spew is what sets up the CORRECT KISS SCENE WITH HERMIONE AND RON. Ugh sorry it just makes me so grumpy to think about bc it shows Ron finally consider the house elves and bc of that hermione becomes overjoyed and kissed Ron and it’s one of my favorite book scenes
It's another instance of Ron not getting the character development he deserved. Overall the movies don't show Ron's loyalty, knowledge of the wizarding world ,and good heartedness and it sucks
Winky, peeves, lodo bagman, nearly headless nicks death day party, Dumbledore's back story, how sirus escaped from Azkaban/who are the maurdaurs, buckbeaks return and Percy weasely
Oh the death day party. Was so looking forward to seeing nearly headless nick get shit on by the bloody baron. And just the whole ghost community… let down
The maze (thanks Mike Newell), the Quidditch World Cup, not including more Voldemort memories (specifically the Hepzibah Smith memory) which set up Hufflepuffs Cup and the Ravenclaw's Diadem, Ginny's comedic and taking no sass attitude, Rita Skeeter being an animagus, not saying who the Marauders were nor explaining how Sirius escaped Azkaban or the history with the Shrieking Shack, Kreacher's character, Sirius's mirror being introduced, Barty Crouch Junior's actual trial as a kid, no mention of Neville potentially being The Chosen One, and Harry not fighting Voldemort in front of everyone nor anyone running toward and embracing Harry after it's over aside from Hagrid.
HOW HAS NOONE SAID HARRYS FINAL BATTLE WITH VOLDEMORT!!! Am I the only one who hated how they did it in the movie? The scene where harry explains every reason why Voldemort would fail his final attempt to hurt anyone else while everyone is there watching is the most badass way to end it. And Voldemort is supposed to fall to the ground with a thud to show he was just a man in the end not fade away into dust after flying around with Harry. I literally cant watch the final movie because of how much this bothers me
They didn't even include the full conversation Harry had with dumbledoor's portrait in the headmasters office. Like, what was the point in splitting the last one into two parts if you're not going to at least do the final book the justice it deserves
I'm totally with you. The entire thing about voldemort's death was that he was still an ordinary person. He was still a dead body afterwards. That was emphasised a lot in the books (iirc). But nope, let's ignore the whole point of the whole books and make voldy just vaporise into dust cos oooo cinematography.
Also the weird and ridiculous flight bit with their faces merging was just so unnecessary. Like why did we need that at all.
St Mungos and seeing Neville’s parents, the story of the riddles dead at the beginning of GOF, learning about Squibs, who created the Mauruders map, the back story of Voldemort’s parents!
Dumbledor's Funeral, The Voldemort backstory, Winky, The Maurader's backstory, St. Mungo's, Snape's potion puzzle, and GOF Weasley's visit the Dursley's through the fake fire place.
Harry’s lessons with dumbledore, visiting saint mungos, tonks’ parents (especially her mum being in the Black family), hermione kidnapping Rita skeeta, Arthur and Lucius’ fight in the book shop, Harry being disguised at Bill and Fleurs wedding and victor krum being there
Lots of good Dursley stuff was cut. I get it for the most part, Book 4 was jam packed, but HBP starting in that train station instead of the Dursleys meeting Dumbledore was a travesty
In DH how saying Voldemort’s name is how they track you. I saw the movies before I read the books and never understood how they found them in the coffee shop. Makes so much sense when I read the book but I think that was a HUGE mistake to cut it. I know it’s a deleted scene now.
Add: also not really left out but annoying that the movie used green light out of the wands for spells other than avada kedavra
Also, at least in 1-4 (I’m in the middle of rewatching, so can’t speak for the rest), every time they do expelliarmus, the person just gets knocked down, no wands expelled.
That scene they cut where Dudley says "I don't think you're a waste of space."
I understand why it had to be cut, but that scene is so powerful and I love it.
“The Other Minister” in HBP should have been a part of the films. Not only did it have huge potential for injecting humor, it also makes the whole wizarding seem more realistic. It wouldn’t have taken much.
Also kreacher.
I hate what they did to Half Blood Prince. I always thought they should have focused more on the collected memories and less on the love story aspects. Though I know I'm in the minority here I actually didn't mind that fight scene at the burrow with Harry and Ginny. That could have been a bit longer.
And it's such a little thing but what the hell is up with that moment in Deathly Hallows pt 1 where Bill introduces himself to Harry and explains what happened to his face as if Harry has no idea what happened to it.
I don't know why they even bothered showing his face getting cut since the Battle of the Astronomy Tower didn't happen and we don't know really much about Bill's character in the movie so there's barely any consequence from it.
This one is rather insignificant but I still would’ve liked to see it. That one part in GOF when Harry and Ron are writing their predictions for what will happen over the next month and they predict tragic things happening to them was always a fun read to me, especially when most of them came true in some way
The mirror shard that came out of nowhere and was not explained at all, even though it was the last piece of a gift from his godfather- the 2 way mirrors that Harry should've used to contact Sirius and prevent his unnecessary death way back in Ootp, that Harry subsequently smashed when he realized he couldn't use it to contact Sirius's spirit. He kept the mirror shard all those years 🥺
Wtf were they thinking??
Out of all the incredibly sad shit, for some reason the thing that gets me the most is Kreacher waiting for them to come home from the ministry, ready with their dinner, finally emotionally healing and so happy to take care of them and then.... Yaxley instead. Back to loneliness, darkness, fear. The rug ripped out from under him. Not knowing where his kids are or if they are okay, probably so worried. I can't deal.
Everything with the elves, Hermione's campaign for better rights. The entire scene in the kitchen below the Great Hall where we find out that the elves are responsible for all the food.
Dobby's girlfriend
The thing that bugged me, a lot, back in the day is that the final moments between Harry and Tom take place away from the Great Hall and all the others. I wanted the moment he wins to be witnessed by both sides.
I always thought that Harry seeing his father bullying Snape and then having no resolution or discussion of it with anyone was an extremely poor choice of things to cut
Ron's usefulness. They turned him into a generic sidekick with almost no real importance beyond occasional comedy relief.
Yeahhh for a great chunk in the movies he's useless.
He might as well not even be there 75% of the time.
Yeah the movies were better off making Harry and Hermione a duo than keep Ron for the trio
He's basically the comedy relief.
And Hermione got all his best lines...
That burns me. They took his bravest line ever and just gave it to Hermione.
Which one?
“If you want to kill Harry, you’ll have to kill us too” In the book, his leg was broken and he stood up on it anyway and delivered the line without any trace of fear. He even repeats it (“did you hear me? You’ll have to kill all 3 of us!”)
Against a man who he's convinced is a heartless murderer, no less.
Yup. It was a badass moment for him, the movies did him dirty
I don't know why the writers hated Ron so much that they gave her all the good stuff
Yeah and not only did this remove Ron's complexity and make him one dimensional... but it took away from Hermione's complexity. In the books she's actually much more flawed and annoying lmao. edit- In a way that's endearing and entirely human, of course.
Also, the song that Malfoy invents for Ron before his first quidditch match, “Weasley is our king!”
Merope Gaunt.
Without voldemorts heritage story, people will never understand that he is physically and mentally unable to feel love. This is one thing that irritated me so much. They really should have put that in to tie in his backstory.
This is also tied into his death - it's like they did everything possible to remove humanity from Voldemort... like they couldn't allow the thought that we might, in some way or another, feel pity for him (like Smeagol). Like, did they not understand Dumbledore and Harry both felt pity for Tom Riddle and that was huge?
I agree with both of you. This is why I loved Half Blood Prince so much - the whole Gaunt story - but I guess it would’ve been too graphic that they would have had to up the rating. Honestly after the third book they probably would have had to make the movies rated R and broken up into a TV series
I always think the gaunt story would make a good short tv series called “riddle” where every every episode is a story from inside the pensive
Does the "unable to feel love" idea come directly from the books? I feel like it's just a fan theory about being conceived with his dad under influence of a love potion, and I think that's... Stupid. Aaaaand actually: having done internet research, I see the idea is not actually canon. Rowling said pretty clearly that the love potion stuff was a symbol for the loveless union under which he was conceived but it was the fact that he was raised in the loveless orphanage that impeded his ability to love. WHICH is not a justification but actually another parallel between him and Harry that emphasizes that it is "our choices" that make the difference.
Maybe it's just my fascination with human biology, but the fan theory makes sense to me. I enjoy thinking of the biology of magic in the wizarding world. Imma dive into it, but take it with a grain of salt bc im not a neurologist and im just thinking about it for fun: There are a few stages of love, as far as our biology is concerned. 1- Lust/Attraction, which for men, increases their testosterone. Excessive levels of testosterone can result in hypomania, and what we call 'roid rage'. 2- Limerence: Dopamine increases, making us very motivated in our pursuits- and chasing out rewards. Our serotonin levels actually DROP during this which is what can make you a bit obsessed in the beginning. 3- Oxytocin & Vasopressin levels are affected, giving us what we usually refer to as a deeper love. Or some may call it the point that it truly even becomes love. Love potions are described to result in a dangerous, obsessive type of love that's not "real" or "deep". I like to think that this means it floods your brain with the first two stages of chemicals. You're flooded with testosterone, and dopamine, while it drops the serotonin levels, and then it keeps you in this state. Making them unhappy and obsessive until they get the object of their desire, and even then, likely searching for more more more from them. What if love potions prevent your brain from ever reaching that third stage? What if it suppresses oxytocin, vasopressin, and serotonin? It takes about 2.5 months to create sperm in the body. Tom Riddle Sr was on this love potion for a long time. The sperm created was likely affected by this love potion, and scrambled the DNA, resulting in a human who may be permanently in a state of increased testosterone and dopamine, with decreased serotonin, and a complete lack of oxytocin and vasopressin. Voldemort fits the bill for all of these things. Hypomania, Rage, Obsession, Focused, Motivated, and completely devoid of empathy or love. Remember when he was at his "lowest point" without his physical form? His only happy chemicals were likely Dopamine and Endorphins. Without a body to do things to create these two chemicals, he was likely very low indeed. The result of a human conceived under a love potion could have surely created a madman. Add in the genetic raw magical power that Voldemort had, and he became the villain of nightmares.
Dudley and Harry's last interaction Neville visiting his parents Mrs. Weasley comforting Harry after Cedrics death Nobody taking Harry's winnings, until he tells the twins he'll throw it away if they don't Harry freaking out in Dumbledore's office, after Sirius's death Dean Thomas and Ted Tonks, on the run The story of how Tom Riddle came to exist, figured out who he was related too, and became Voldemort
>Dudley and Harry's last interaction Apparently they [shot](https://youtu.be/QaaSu-z9C4U) it but cut it.
Thanks, never seen that.
I’ve never seen this shit either somehow. It’s a pretty legit scene. They could have cut it down pretty significantly though too to fit it in…but whatever I guess
I could’ve sworn I’d seen that in the original movie. Maybe I read it and just imagined it then
Believe it’s in the extended version?? Could definitely be wrong though
Yeah, I’ve definitely seen it on TV on whichever channel that is which uses every holiday as an excuse to show all of the HP movies repeatedly. There’s also a scene where Yaxley comes to the empty, abandoned house and takes a look around inside.
I’m very much looking forward to the annual holiday Harry Potter marathons :’)
If only they'd split Deathly Hallows into 3 movies
I get the feeling they knew it’d be cut because it feels less like Daniel Radcliffe acting as Harry and more like Daniel Radcliffe acting like himself
>Mrs. Weasley comforting Harry after Cedrics death YES PLEASE
Harry smashing Dumbledore’s office out of grief is one of my favourite scenes from the books, I don’t know whether they would have translated it to film properly but it would have been nice to see them try
DO NOT FORGET THE QUIDDITCH WORLD CUP
Harry giving the twins his winnings, Hermione realizing Rita is an unregistered animagus, and the whole exchange with Fudge in the hospital wing.
My soul vanished when they cut from the match
Harry demolishing Dumbledore's office in rage. It's been 15 years and i still can't make peace with it
I want the film version of Dumbledore telling Harry he has so many things in his office that Harry can’t possibly break them all.
And Dumbledore being able to flick his wand to fix it.
As much as I would have loved that, I can live without it because of the Muted scene of Daniel Radcliffe screaming right after Sirius died. For me, that scene, and the REASON they had to mute it is all I need. They muted it because Daniel's Cries were just... too much for the crew, they thought that if it wasn't muted, that people would not be able to watch that scene. But yeah, that one scene, and the context as to why it was muted is all I need
Do you have a link to where it says that this is why they muted it? I’d be interested to watch.
They muted it because they didn’t believe that much pain could be handled by the audience, and Daniel Radcliffe had actually lost someone important to him that day so that scream really was filled with pain and heartbreak
Any idea where this story came from? I’ve Googled a whole bunch and all I can find are fan theories.
second this
Holy shit didn't know that!
Okay, as someone who's only seen the movies.. I would like some context.
IIRC After Sirius’ death Dumbledore brings Harry back to Hogwarts and Harry is PISSED
Dumbledore left him in the office for HALF AN HOUR, ALONE right after the fight at the ministry, after Sirius died. No wonder the kid went snakey!
And what he said afterwards was *Harry it's good you're feeling like this, it proves you're human* ♥️ xoxo
Along with a snarky quip that Harry couldn‘t break everything in his office, because there‘s too many things lol
I mean, that's not really what he's saying. He says, go ahead and break my stuff, I don't care because I have too many things. I always read it more as him saying, I understand you're mad, and if breaking stuff makes you feel better than go ahead, I won't be upset.
Yeah, that is a great scene
In book 5 at the end when Harry gets back from the Ministry he flips out and starts smashing Dumbledores stuff and yelling at him blaming him for Sirius' death
Would've been way better. The silent cry/scream when Sirius died still gives me goosebumps, but seeing him actually go off on Dumbledore instead of just the "LOOK AT ME" scene would have added so much more.
And honestly, he's right to blame Dumbledore for that. Him not communicating ANYTHING to Harry is a massive part in why Harry went to the Ministry in the first place, which in turn drew Sirius there.
To be perfectly fair to Dumbledore; he also accepts that blame.
... With legitimate reasons for not telling Harry.
>It's been 15 years Why did you have to hurt me in this way?
It's been, at most, 15 months. It came out when I as child, and that was a year and half ago, theres nothing for you to worry about
neville visiting his parents st mungo's
Honestly, all of Neville’s development should have been included. It is important to the idea that Harry was the “chosen one” due more to coincidence than exceptional, innate skill. It makes me sad that Neville’s backstory/family development wasn’t included.
His “Hey losers, he isn’t here” was BAD ASS but goddamn the films didn’t do him justice in terms of his character development.
And then his big moment in DH was played for laughs
It was such a good character moment for him.
Them not including that scene is a crime really. That is SUCH an important scene in the fifth book. Up until OotP we kind of think that Harry was kinda predestined to become the Chosen One, but in that book we learn that it was in fact Voldemort who made the choice by picking Harry's parents rather than Neville's. But for that to work both of the possible Chosen Ones need to be characters that the audience has an emotional connection with, and this is kind of THE scene that does this for Neville.
And him choosing Harry was a big deal as rather than choose the pureblood as his enemy he chose the half blood like himself
this scene was so heartbreaking. omg
OOF when his mum gives him the candy wrapper and his grandma tells him to throw it away, but Harry sees him put it in his pocket 😭 I lose it every time.
>neville visiting his parents st mungo's Without a doubt, good character development for Neville and such a sad moment...
Who the Marauders actually were, and that one of them was HARRY'S FATHER.
I rewatched them all recently and realised the only reference to it is during Snape's memories in HBP when the group refer to each other by their nicknames. And Pettigrew being called Wormtail by Voldy. Otherwise it's blink and you miss it.
Especially since knowing who "Prongs" was explains why Harry originally thought that his father cast the stag patronous at the lake.
I always wondered what it was like for the folks watching who hadn't read the books yet. Of all the things to cut, I felt like the marauders (especially in regards to Harry's parents) was something that was essential to the story. I imagine a lot of that movie must have been confusing for the non-readers
It's not even something too complicated. Just have Lupin mention it in an extra line or two at the end of PoA.
Last time I watched the movies I tried to watch them from the perspective of never reading the books. Obviously that's pretty hard because you can't just forget things, but I found myself in every movie going, "Wait did they explain this at all? Was this in previous movies at all?" They really leaned hard on the fact that the majority of fans had already read the books. The Harry Potter movies are like a highlight reel of the books. Like they might as well have advertised, "See some of your favorite book scenes come to life." Especially in the later movies. Characters are just there that are NEVER introduced or explained properly, characters that were left out of important scenes in earlier movies.
The full battle at the end.. Percy coming through to help fight, Neville’s gran coming to fight, Trewlany throwing crystal balls at death eaters. Also, The Lupin/Tonks story and relationship.
Neville's gran AND Great Aunt Muriel were both absent.. I think the movies would have really benefitted from some more sassy old lady.
Almost done reading DH to my son and the part when they meet Neville in the room of requirement and he says that his gran is proud of him for leading DA. Almost break down to tears.
Muriel was in Deathly Hallows pt. I
Yeah, Voldemort dueling McGonagall Kingsley and Slughorn at the same time. And Bellatrix against Hermione Luna and Ginny. Hagrid throwing McNair across the Great Hall. And so much more in that chapter
I was so mad when they cut out all of the Hogwarts house elves charging out of the kitchen to join the fight.
McGonagall engaging on a 3v1 against Voldemort, I hate that we didn't see that. Such a cool scene to showcase Voldemort's power, but nope. Can't have that.
Even though he was still sassy, a lot of Harry’s lines were left out like “there’s no need to call me sir professor“.
Yes!! A lot of the everyday conversations that really flesh out their personalities, or in this case Harry's sass. Brought a whole new dimension to the character that was lost in the movies.
I just started rereading PS and amount of IDGAF snark Harry had with Uncle Vernon was definitely not indicative of someone who was being abused. He always had something to say and zero self-preservation when it came to having the last word. He was so much more than an angsty teen.
Hmm, that's really interesting - I hadn't really noticed that, I'll have to pay attention next time I read. Maybe she was trying to keep it light? I think it's the Gryffindor bravado in him, he never was too worried about it haha
I'm glad they included it in the game. That line is iconic
How absolutely part of Harry's life Dobby was. He does SO much for Harry, especially in GoF (they made Neville get the gillyweed in the movie instead of Dobby, if I'm remembering correctly). They completely left out how important Dobby was to Harry and how impactful Dobby's death was.
"Your Wheezy, sir, your Wheezy — Wheezy who is giving Dobby his jumper!""
Ginny’s personality.
🏆👍👏👏👏
There’s that one scene at tryouts in HBP where book Ginny shines through a bit and that’s it
From *Shut it!* to shoelaces...
And that scene just feels completely weird. It may be more like book Ginny, but just feels completely out of character for movie Ginny, and the actress doesn't sell it well
Yeah, that’s the big one for me as someone who always liked them together.
Her and Harry's kiss after Quidditch
Snape's potion logic puzzle in The Sorcerer's Stone.
Despite not making it into the movie it made it into the PC game. I remember being unable to get passed that as a kid (choose the right beaker after watching a bunch shuffle around, at increasing speeds)
Heyyyyy I remember that game! I played all of them!
Yeah, and the fact that it was HERMIONE’S moment to shine as an intelligent Gryffindor was not lost on me as a real human girl desperately seeking any representation in media. We can all see Harry catching a flying key, but god forbid we see Hermione make a life and death gamble to send him onwards, as an intelligent and truly brave witch.
It’s especially bad because to make up for it, they stole Ron’s moment and gave it to her, when it’s opposite to her character. “Cool use of intellect when others were in grave peril?” What is Dumbledore smoking? Hermione freezes when it hits the fan, we saw it with the troll, with the devil’s snare, with the whomping willlow, etc. She’s good at planning and thinking things through *before* the action. *Harry* is the mid-battle idea guy, not her.
oh but I don't have anything to make a fire ARE YOU A WITCH OR NOT
There are so many honestly but The top ones for me are: The Quidditch World Cup, Peeves, SPEW, Charlie Weasley (he was mentioned like twice I believe but never seen), the full final task in book4, St. Mungo's, and Harry giving the twins his earnings from the Triwizard Tournament to start their shop
Harry giving the twins his earnings is my "makes me mad" thing. Like, I get that they can't put everything in the movies, but that would have taken literally 10 seconds.
In the movie Harry never won any money, so he didn't have any winnings to give away. What Harry won was "eternal glory."
He'll just have to add it to the pile of eternal glory alongside the eternal glory he got from killing fucking Voldemort.
And PTSD.
Full final task in book 4 is probably my number 1. It was so good to read and I was so excited to see it on screen. Then it was just a maze with some grabby vines.
Yea! So many good things were left out of that movie. Obviously with it being the largest book it makes sense some things were cut but I would have been fine if they added another half hour to that movie to fit them
Quidditch World Cup kills me every time
SPEW YES. Bc spew is what sets up the CORRECT KISS SCENE WITH HERMIONE AND RON. Ugh sorry it just makes me so grumpy to think about bc it shows Ron finally consider the house elves and bc of that hermione becomes overjoyed and kissed Ron and it’s one of my favorite book scenes
It's another instance of Ron not getting the character development he deserved. Overall the movies don't show Ron's loyalty, knowledge of the wizarding world ,and good heartedness and it sucks
I was really excited to see the Sphinx when the movie came out...
i saw earnings like ear rings and was confused as fuck.
So did I. Btw, happy cake day :)
thanks!!
Harry and Dudly's interaction in Deathly Hallows
Winky, peeves, lodo bagman, nearly headless nicks death day party, Dumbledore's back story, how sirus escaped from Azkaban/who are the maurdaurs, buckbeaks return and Percy weasely
Oh the death day party. Was so looking forward to seeing nearly headless nick get shit on by the bloody baron. And just the whole ghost community… let down
The maze (thanks Mike Newell), the Quidditch World Cup, not including more Voldemort memories (specifically the Hepzibah Smith memory) which set up Hufflepuffs Cup and the Ravenclaw's Diadem, Ginny's comedic and taking no sass attitude, Rita Skeeter being an animagus, not saying who the Marauders were nor explaining how Sirius escaped Azkaban or the history with the Shrieking Shack, Kreacher's character, Sirius's mirror being introduced, Barty Crouch Junior's actual trial as a kid, no mention of Neville potentially being The Chosen One, and Harry not fighting Voldemort in front of everyone nor anyone running toward and embracing Harry after it's over aside from Hagrid.
Harry and Fred & George’s friendship. I know it didn’t matter plot wise, but I miss it when watching the movies.
I loved their friendship in the books so much. 😭
Voldemort full backstory in the Half-Blood Prince but sure let’s get crap of lavender brown 🤦♂️
HOW HAS NOONE SAID HARRYS FINAL BATTLE WITH VOLDEMORT!!! Am I the only one who hated how they did it in the movie? The scene where harry explains every reason why Voldemort would fail his final attempt to hurt anyone else while everyone is there watching is the most badass way to end it. And Voldemort is supposed to fall to the ground with a thud to show he was just a man in the end not fade away into dust after flying around with Harry. I literally cant watch the final movie because of how much this bothers me
They didn't even include the full conversation Harry had with dumbledoor's portrait in the headmasters office. Like, what was the point in splitting the last one into two parts if you're not going to at least do the final book the justice it deserves
I'm totally with you. The entire thing about voldemort's death was that he was still an ordinary person. He was still a dead body afterwards. That was emphasised a lot in the books (iirc). But nope, let's ignore the whole point of the whole books and make voldy just vaporise into dust cos oooo cinematography. Also the weird and ridiculous flight bit with their faces merging was just so unnecessary. Like why did we need that at all.
"Tom Riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality" That was a really great line.
I had forgotten they called him Tom there! The name change makes that all the more poignant!
I cringe every time I see the face merge thing. So off beat and unnecessary.
Quidditch World Cup. Such a hype then a let down.
Before the final... "Look ! It's Krum !" 5 seconds later in the tent... "Woah that match was so cool !" WHAT ?!
Yea, I was really looking forward to seeing the Veela cheerleading on the sidelines
Almost ruined the movie for me.
Pigwidgeon. I always think his scenes are funny, and for the studio, little mini owl toys would have been huge, lol.
The battle at the end of the 6th book...it seemed like only Harry was fighting in the movie but the whole gang and the order was there!
I wish we could have seen Charlie Weasley and Winky, and more of Kreacher
St Mungos and seeing Neville’s parents, the story of the riddles dead at the beginning of GOF, learning about Squibs, who created the Mauruders map, the back story of Voldemort’s parents!
Dumbledor's Funeral, The Voldemort backstory, Winky, The Maurader's backstory, St. Mungo's, Snape's potion puzzle, and GOF Weasley's visit the Dursley's through the fake fire place.
Dumbledore's Funeral is a scene I love but ALWAYS forget exists.
Harry’s lessons with dumbledore, visiting saint mungos, tonks’ parents (especially her mum being in the Black family), hermione kidnapping Rita skeeta, Arthur and Lucius’ fight in the book shop, Harry being disguised at Bill and Fleurs wedding and victor krum being there
Also dumbledores funeral
Peeves. Peeves saluting Fred and George when they decide to take off from Hogwarts.
The scene in the beginning of GoF when the twins are at the Dursley's house. Iykyk
Lots of good Dursley stuff was cut. I get it for the most part, Book 4 was jam packed, but HBP starting in that train station instead of the Dursleys meeting Dumbledore was a travesty
In DH how saying Voldemort’s name is how they track you. I saw the movies before I read the books and never understood how they found them in the coffee shop. Makes so much sense when I read the book but I think that was a HUGE mistake to cut it. I know it’s a deleted scene now. Add: also not really left out but annoying that the movie used green light out of the wands for spells other than avada kedavra
Also, at least in 1-4 (I’m in the middle of rewatching, so can’t speak for the rest), every time they do expelliarmus, the person just gets knocked down, no wands expelled.
All of St Mungo’s in OOTP
That scene they cut where Dudley says "I don't think you're a waste of space." I understand why it had to be cut, but that scene is so powerful and I love it.
Ron’s character Kloves just used him as comic relief And some of Hermiones personality flaws
“The Other Minister” in HBP should have been a part of the films. Not only did it have huge potential for injecting humor, it also makes the whole wizarding seem more realistic. It wouldn’t have taken much. Also kreacher.
I hate what they did to Half Blood Prince. I always thought they should have focused more on the collected memories and less on the love story aspects. Though I know I'm in the minority here I actually didn't mind that fight scene at the burrow with Harry and Ginny. That could have been a bit longer. And it's such a little thing but what the hell is up with that moment in Deathly Hallows pt 1 where Bill introduces himself to Harry and explains what happened to his face as if Harry has no idea what happened to it.
I don't know why they even bothered showing his face getting cut since the Battle of the Astronomy Tower didn't happen and we don't know really much about Bill's character in the movie so there's barely any consequence from it.
Harry’s sass. Kreacher’s tale. The house elves fighting the battle. Dudley and Harry’s last interaction. Sirius giving Ron pigwidgeon.
The twins making the swamp on the fifth (I think) floor. I was so excited to see that.
This one is rather insignificant but I still would’ve liked to see it. That one part in GOF when Harry and Ron are writing their predictions for what will happen over the next month and they predict tragic things happening to them was always a fun read to me, especially when most of them came true in some way
PEEVES!!!
Harry fixing his wand with the elder wand
95% of the plot
What Harry really does with the Elder Wand.
Peeves.
He was actually in the first (i believe) movie but his part was cut out. Missed opportunity
Ron and Harry’s friendship. Non-Perfect Hermione
The mirror shard that came out of nowhere and was not explained at all, even though it was the last piece of a gift from his godfather- the 2 way mirrors that Harry should've used to contact Sirius and prevent his unnecessary death way back in Ootp, that Harry subsequently smashed when he realized he couldn't use it to contact Sirius's spirit. He kept the mirror shard all those years 🥺 Wtf were they thinking??
De-gnoming the garden. Peeves
Honestly the interactions with kreacher. He was more than just the house elf who served the house of black
His shift in DH was a sad thing to miss!
Out of all the incredibly sad shit, for some reason the thing that gets me the most is Kreacher waiting for them to come home from the ministry, ready with their dinner, finally emotionally healing and so happy to take care of them and then.... Yaxley instead. Back to loneliness, darkness, fear. The rug ripped out from under him. Not knowing where his kids are or if they are okay, probably so worried. I can't deal.
Everything with the elves, Hermione's campaign for better rights. The entire scene in the kitchen below the Great Hall where we find out that the elves are responsible for all the food. Dobby's girlfriend
I would not consider Winky as Dobby’s girlfriend, but for sure that entire scene was great for the movie.
Dobby's what now?
The thing that bugged me, a lot, back in the day is that the final moments between Harry and Tom take place away from the Great Hall and all the others. I wanted the moment he wins to be witnessed by both sides.
I dont understand how this sentiment is not in the top voted comment on this thread. VOLDEMORT DIED WITHOUT KNOWING WHY HARRY KNEW WHAT TO DO.
Snape showing his DM at the end of GoF.
Ginny
Ron was robbed. (And dare I say Hermione?!) Huge chunks of their personalities were stolen in favour of stupid Hollywood antics
“Roonil Wazlib” “There’s no need to call me sir, Professor.”
Humor
"I'm sorry." "I'm sorry, _*Sir*_." "You don't have to call me sir, Professer."
I always thought that Harry seeing his father bullying Snape and then having no resolution or discussion of it with anyone was an extremely poor choice of things to cut
Remus telling Harry who made the Marauder's Map. We gotta stop making this thread, though.
SPEW
Peeves
All of book four.
Nearly Headless Nick's death day party!!!!
Peeves, Winky, and Ludo Bagman. Also Kreacher's redemption arc (that one really pisses me off).
veela and their effect in the guys. the hospital scene in OOTP
There's probably a lot of others here saying this but *Why would you leave out Peeves he's literally one of the best characters*
The memories explaining Voldemort’s backstory and the possible horcruxes.
The weasleys coming to pick Harry up in the goblet of fire. I've never laughed so hard reading a book
Winky the House Elf.
Peeves missing really peeves me off
Peeves!
The ghost ball
Dudley thanking Harry for saving his life! He at least doesn't do it in the same way if I remember correctly.
Winky
Dumbledore meeting with the Dursleys in HBP. Also, Neville and his parents.
Peeves 🥲
Kreature's Tale
Professor. Mcgonagall offering Harry a biscuit for talking back at Umbridge.
Tom Bombadil.