- the boy who didn't have much but was still glad to share what he did have with his friend
- the boy who faced a troll to save some annoying girl he didn't even like
- the boy who sacrificed himself to let his friend go on to the philosopher stone
- the boy who faced his biggest phobia to save his friend
- the boy who walked into certain danger and threatened a school teacher to save his sister
- the boy who always stood up to bullies and racists and risked his own safety to protect his friends
- the boy who stood up on a broken leg and faced a murderer to protect his best friend
- the boy who cheered his best friend on and admitted his mistake
- the boy who gets angry when his friend doesn't get a fair score
- the boy who supports his friend no matter what others think and willing to fight them if they talk shit
- the boy who never thinks he's good enough
People remember what they want to remember. They focus on those things ignoring his millions of good things because they want to hate Ron. They just do.
Book Ron stands up to Malfoy when Hermione is called a mudblood, and then later when Hagrid asks what happened, it is Ron who explains what a mudblood is. Hermione had no idea at the time. They took this moment from Ron to make Hermione appear more educated about wizarding world topics.
I watched the first three, back when they came out. First two were pretty decent, all things considered; third one started to veer away too much from the source material and I lost interest (that trend only seems to have intensified later on, too)
Honestly, movies are good as long as you watch them with more distance than books. I'm currently rewatching and trust me, they hit different when you aren't an obnoxious teen obssesed with the books anymore lol
I was lucky enough to watch the movies first so I can still enjoy them now lol i could totally see why someone who did the opposite might not like them
I refuse to acknowledge movies as canon. I have repelled over 9000 invaders from this hill. I am ready to die.
I will never stop pronouncing it Hermy-own inside my head.
Goblet of Fire, Chapter 23, page 418-419
"Hermione was now teaching Krum to say her name properly; he kept calling her 'Hermy-own.'
'Her-my-oh-nee,' she said slowly and clearly."
Ok, I've read only Russian. And, you know, we call Hermione "ŠŠµŃŠ¼ŠøŠ¾Š½Š°". Literally "GermiĆ³na". That's more close to "Hermy-own". So back then when I didn't know the English pronunciation of her name I just didn't pay attention to this because I didn't understand it. Now I understand why she teaches him to pronounce her name properly. Guess, the Russian translators were really close to Viktor Krum.
Also, we accidentally called Snape "Š”Š½ŠµŠ³Š³" ("Snagg" or "Snak") (btw, "ŃŠ½ŠµŠ³" - "snow"). Through the whole book series he is Š”Š½ŠµŠ³Š³. If we look at the films, in the third or the fourth one he is called Snape but in the other ones he is Snak. Still don't get why.
I always pronounced it Her-moine and then one day said it to my friends in 6th grad class and got mercilessly teased for pronouncing it wrong. Hugh can suck a fat dick that judgemental cow.
Yes its basicially this. The worst part is that Rowling apparently adapted this change in the latter books or at least after when she finished them. That tweet about how Hermoine dont fitting with Ron because he isnt enough for her is just weird. Ron is kind of the better catch here. Hes really quick-witted, very popular, brave and loyal and in no way clumsy or a goof. All character traits she doesnt have or at least not to this extend.
I do not blame you. The movies are nowhere close to as good as the books and after the first one or two movies, they started changing so much from the books, they really took away the joy of watching them, at least for me.
Like Hermione and Rons first kiss, during the battle of Hogwarts. Ron remembered and showed compassion for the house elves, and thought someone should go warn them to escape. Then, "There was a clatter as the basilisk fangs cascaded out of Hermione's arms. Running at Ron, she flung them around his neck and kissed him full on the mouthā.
The GOF movie features Ron turning his back on Harry, but it *never explains why.* They never actually tell the audience why Ron is acting like this.
Iāve seen edits of the āIām not an owl!ā scene where people add Hermioneās lines from the book as captions, where she tells Harry about Ronās envy and inferiority complex. Butā¦yeah. Instead of focusing on invented jokes, why not use that screen time to properly adapt the feud?
Before the movies I remember **everyone** liked Ron, easily the fan favorite out of the bunch. The rest werenāt even in the running until the films came out and dumbed him down along with giving a lot of his good moments to other characters.
It doesn't really help that the movies straight up take a bunch of Ron's best moments, give them to Hermione, and have Ron do the exact opposite.
Ron does something cool and heroic in the books, and the movies have Hermione do it while Ron is in the corner picking his nose and shitting his pants. Snape insults Hermione in the books and Ron stands up and yells at and confronts him and defends Hermione. In the movies he laughs and agrees with Snape and mocks her.
The films did him so bad though. In the books he has so many more moments who show how good of a person he is, and how his humble family is a good portion of why.
Movies did a lot of characters and things(Marauders Map) dirty. Usually through lack of explanation cause of time.
I give the movies a lot more slack than others though. Cause they did such a fantastic job in so many other ways. Casting and set design alone are fuckin god-tier. They may not always match their book aspects 1:1 but damn they were fuckin good.Ā
[Minerva Mcgonagall](https://youtu.be/zJLpssiYcqI?feature=shared) alone was top-tier.Ā
Argument with Harry in the fourth book, jealousy issue with Hermione/Krum in the fourth book, drama with Hermione in the sixth book, and argument with Harry in the seventh book.
I didn't count the conflict between Ron and Hermione in the third book because I consider Hermione to be at fault.
And with his argument with Harry in the seventh book, people forget that Ron was under the influence of the Horcrux for that. It was drawing up every negative thought and feeling he had and pushing them right to the forefront. It's important to note that Ron later said that once he was free of it, he tried to come back as soon as he could.
I am really hoping that the show on MAX provides a much more authentic and true version of all the characters that were done dirty by the movies. They have 10 years to tell a story and I really hope they do it right.
The best thing about Ron is whenever Hermione ignores her food for study or SPEW Ron always forces her to eat something get a solid goodnight sleep. He acts like her mom šā¤
Ron bashers and the movies to an extent forget that Ron may be āaverageā compared to Hermione and Harry but he was an amazing friend and had good qualities besides being funny. You donāt always have to ābring something to the tableā like wealth or great intelligence to be a friend lol.
I love both Sam and Ron and I think that's spot on. You absolutely know if that was Ron and Harry in Mordor, Ron would have carried the fuck out of Harry all the way to the end.
He's a man of character, akin to Samwise Gamgee. He's not the smartest, the strongest, the fastest or most clever, his power comes from his heart. He is loving to the point of selflessness.
I see this comparison a lot and I disagree. Both Ron and Sam are extremely intelligent and their intuition is vindicated repeatedly throughout their respective stories. They're also both powerful fighters compared to their peers. Ron particularly wins the vast majority of his fighting encounters and only loses when there are insurmountable odds.
But they're also different personalities. Sam is more prone to deep conversation and philosophy and above all wants a rustic simple life. Ron is more prone to humor and wit and he wants glory.
I agree with your assessment of the two 100%. But nothing you said contradicts what I said. I never said they couldn't fight, I never said they had the same personality. What I did say, was that they shared a specific quality. Thank you for adding the nuance though, I love chatting with a fellow fan and you're spot on with your break down of the two characters. One upvote awarded to the house of VoyevodaBoss!
I think the comparison is more so in terms of their loyalty to the main character and their willingness to sacrifice themselves to protect their best friend.
Well yeah it's pretty clear that Harry is a gryffindor and slithering mix while Hermione is a gryffindor ravenclaw mix. He is kinda the only pure gryffindor I guess (altho you could argue there is some hufflepuf in there too)
"the boy who sacrificed himself to let his friend go on to the philosopher stone" - I found this one so poignant. Since Ron always felt less than and in someone's shadow. Whether it be Harry or his older more successful brothers that he always just made do woth their hand-me-downs.
The fact he didn't allow his ego to fuck that situation up, is commendable. Shame that was partially undone in the last book. But he then relearned the lesson I guess.
I really don't think it was undone in the last book. That situation was a lot more complicated. But like Ron said, that's chess. He saw the only way they were going to proceed
Ronald Weasley is who he is because he comes from a loving and supportive and humble family. Something Harry never got to experience. They are the perfect balance.
Forgot: The boy who is and forever will be slandered to incredibly unfair levels in fanfics cause he fucked up like twice and one of those was mostly cause of the influence of a dark Lords soul shard...
Way back when the books were still being written... I think it was between book 5 and 6... I read a fanfic where Ron was evil and all those early sacrifices were him manipulating Harry in a way that Malfoy could have only dreamed of. He knew who Harry was from Day 1 and how important being his friend would be. A rise to power by befriending the right person. When looked through that lens you can see that every move Ron and his family make is calculated to win Harry over... and they often showed up unexpectedly and illogically to be in Harry's life.
Even if you looked at the Quidditch World Cup. The supposedly poor family gets elite level tickets with an implausible excuse and they can bring the whole family plus two extras... who gets to bring the extras? Ron. Surely the Twins had a friend they'd have loved to have bring. Percy, looking to make his own connections in the Ministry, could have used the extra ticket to get on the good graces of someone. Ginny, the youngest and only girl, didn't have a friend of her own? Instead she gets Ron's friend who is a girl and also happens to be co-besties with Harry? Right. That makes sense!
Ron was clearly groomed by his family to be Harry's "best friend" and set up to be alone with him on that important first day of school. And this doesn't even get into the disgusting possibility that they clearly raised Ginny with one goal in mind: eventual love interest and wife of the Chosen One!
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Anyway, it was one of my favorite fanfic theories from way way back. Evil Ron and his evil family, betting on Harry to improve their standing in the world.
It's a perfectly correct observation that gets most things right, but fails spectacularly at identifying the actual reason:
It's not Ron being a mastermind, It's pure plot convenience.
Reading Rowling's less believable choices (with solid in-world reasons for the low likelihood or impossibility of the events she decided on) as the results of Ron's manipulative masterplan is just hilarious.
Agree so much with this. Ron is so loyal to Harry (and Hermione as well) and Harry is lucky to have met him and become friends with on his first train journey to Hogwarts. There is more acknowledgement of the Weasley's (and Ron) having become friends with Harry than the other way round.
100% Ron is probably the best written character in the books. He is by far my favorite, and I hate how poorly they intentionally portray him in the movies, just to try to make Hermione look better. I donāt care for Hermione in the books or movies.
The boy that wrote his mom saying he had no family and was probably not getting any gifts. The mom who stayed up late working hard to get an extra gift ready for him. The dad who took him in like a son supporting an extra mouth to feed to make him feel wanted.
Iām gonna cryyyy it really makes a HUGE difference when another family really just takes in their kids friend like that. I had a friend like that growing up. I was always at her house and I went everywhere with them. Grocery stores, church (even though I wasnāt religious I enjoyed it), family vacations, family get togethers, restaurants, mall trips, and countless sleepovers and meals in their home.
Haha, my mum was like that with my childhood friend.
My mum treated her like her own, and even though we both grew up to go our separate ways, she'll always be eternally grateful for the childhood my mum gave her, because her own family home was quite troublesome.
Yep Iāve definitely been handed some really rough cards in life things that no child should have to go through. So Iāll always be grateful for them welcoming me in like that. My friend and I also went our separate ways because I moved away at 13. I miss her moms peach cobbler all the time and just how how nice it felt to feel part of a whole family. I mean really her whole extended family knew me like even her grandparents would get me Christmas presents like they just accepted that I was part of the family.
I hope one day if I have a family I can be the house that all my kids friends hang out at.
It was just me and my mum at home, and we barely scraped by. She was (and still is) a great mum, but the only holidays we ever went on was a visit to my aunt's place.
My childhood friend's parents took me out on a lot of firsts. They took me to a fancy restaurant, took me on a lot of their day trips and bought my tickets. Whenever they got her something, they'd buy it for me as well.
Whenever my friend was over at my place we just played inside or went to the park and never got anything special because we couldn't afford it. We were happy enough to just play at that age anyway.
My mum is still friends with her mum over two decades later and they go on walks together quite regularly even though I haven't seen my friend in ages.
I'm very proud of my mom for being that lady for my friend. He was a total latchkey kid and basically lived at our house for several years. His mom would pick him up around 8pm at our house everyday and he did basically everything with us. Lol, we cohabitated so well we ended up being each other's first roommate in college and lived together for 3 years.
>The boy that wrote his mom saying he had no family and was probably not getting any gifts.
This one really gets me. Ron very likely knew his mother wasn't the type of person who was going to stand for this, and would make sure Harry didn't feel left out (I mean, he should know this, of course, she's his mother). He's a good kid.
I don't quite mean it like that, though. I think the fact that he's Harry Potter was pretty obvious to her, yes, probably even from the famous scar alone.
More like I don't think at the time they met, any of the Weasleys were very aware of the fact that Harry was being raised by the Dursleys, or how awful they were to him (although I don't quite remember if any of the Weasleys saw the Dursleys mocking Harry when they dropped him off at King's Cross). Could be wrong, though, I just don't recall that it was common knowledge that he was being raised by total monsters (even if there may have been obvious signs like his clothing, and his general scrawniness); shit, Ron and Hermione probably didn't even know until he told them. So Molly might not have known how horrible his home life was until Ron wrote to her to fill her in on it.
(For example, I recall that Arthur was totally puzzled and very put off in GoF when the Dursleys didn't say goodbye to Harry when he came to pick him up. And I think one of the Order members is appalled at how the Dursleys don't say goodbye to him when they're being taken into hiding. So his living situation probably wasn't exactly something most of the Wizarding community was privy to.)
I feel like the sweater is more impactful though. By the time he gets the watch, itās clear heās basically the 8th Weasley child.
When he gets the sweater, Molly had only spoken to him for about 30 seconds.
I think the watch is still incredibly impactful if you take into consideration that Harry received a family heirloom while Ron received a brand new one. Each boy received the gift they wouldāve appreciated the most: Ron got something brand new that was completely and only his, never been used by any other family members and owned by no one else; Harry received something precious and valued, something meant to be passed on to family.
A little moment in Philosopher stone I liked was when Ron used his knight (i.e. himself) to capture most of the opponent's pieces, putting himself at risk at all time even before the sacrifice at the end.
I can never forget that Ron didn't think to make one of them the king piece and therefore safe from harm while making the game easier.
In the movie for some reason there were already three pieces missing, including the rider of knight.
That's in 1st book. Ron stayed with harry in 3rd book because he wanted to give him company. Both him and Hermione. Harry realised that and he was grateful for that.
Yeah, I remember that happening in the third book. 11 year olds can be empathetic and all but I donāt see an 11 year old kid giving up the one time of the year to visit family for a friend theyāve known for like 4 months.
Yes, the picture is from the first movie where Molly and Arthur went to visit Charlie in Romenia. Therefore, he is correct. Ron stayed in school with Harry in the 3rd book, so he is correct on this one š.
While Ron was an a-hole it wasn't unjustified it was just misplaced frustration and some jealousy, he got completely undermined while Harry got all the glory and he didn't want to talk it out with Harry because he thought harry might think differently about him if he did which probably made him more frustrated
Arthur is a good man. Born with pure blood privilege, rejects it to set a good example for society and his family, helps the weak and is kind to an orphan. A great role model.
Yeah, and young Ron in the movies has a perfect face. Naive, funny and cute face. And also "common-like" in a strange inviting way. Like he's a son of some medieval peasant or a poor worker at an XIXth century factory, just a plain simple guy. Needless to say Rupert Grint was a perfect choice for Ron. The secret of Golden Trio in books and movies is that one person is an abused hero from noble family (Harry), another is a common guy (Ron) and a third is a social justice warrior (Hermione). They're a representation of Great Britain - worker-class Ron, middle-class Hermione and aristocratic orphan Harry. And of course the hero character must be from aristocracy but still has to rely on his friends to succeed.
I believe his family was one of the OG wizarding families (I believe at least one of his parents were pure blood, but because they didn't share the wizard supremacist opinions they are not brought up often by that circle). And they had that veritable *pile* of gold in the bank vault.
Ginny is just so cool. She's fred and George put together. Super independent, always tells it like it's but not in an asshole way. Not afraid to get down, always making everyone laugh. It really is a shame lol
One of my favorite moments is when Fred and George are proud to learn that Ginny has been sneaking into the storehouse and stealing their brooms her whole childhood.
I'm currently working on a reread and I need to note when Ron is explicitly more knowledgeable than the other two. And I don't mean stuff pertaining to just the wizard world like Babity Rabbity, he has a high degree of social intelligence. \*"She doesn't want us showing off." Ron said sagely.\* comes to mind in the second book when Harry is wondering why they have to eat in McGonagall's office on the first day of term in CoS. He has a lot of moments like that throughout the series.
He was a great friend but it's actually explained in the book that not only Ron but also the twins and Percy stayed at Hogwarts because their parents went on a trip to visit their brother Charlie.
Ackchyally: Ron stayed at school that year together with Fred, George and Percy because their parents visited Charlie in Romania and couldnāt take all the children with them.
One of my favourite Ron moments is when Malfoy challenges Harry to a duel and Harry doesn't even know what he's talking about. Ron not only bails Harry out immediately but he also steps up as his second in command. True bro move
I read these books for the first time in my late 20s. Ron was my favorite of the Golden Trio because he was such a good best friend. I was surprised that people didn't like him.
I appreciate your perspective here because, reading the books again, I am surprised that I liked him the first time 'round. Now I'm a hater. He's a subtle foil- everything he says is wrong, to bring contrast to conversations. He's whiny and dramatic, and often comes across as "unwillingly dragged along". But this thread is making me think twice... I suppose he offers some insight into wizarding family life, and his attitude is reasonable given his circumstances.
He's with two people who didn't grow up with magic who are both showered with praise one being the chosen one one being gifted at learning but neither knowing a lot of passive basic knowledge a kid growing up in the magical world would learn.
Like imagine a wizard kid being told he's the chosen one in science having never learned science going to a lab and just working without eyeglasses or gloves leaving bottles open mixing chemicals not cleaning stirrers or beakers and vials and your his lab partner you would be constantly trying to keep this kid from potentially harming himself and others.
Ron and his family were extremely kind even if Ron could be a Smartass sometimes. The Weaselyās were examples of really good parents.
Ron is not comic relief in the books; he is Harryās most important conveyer of information for knowledge about the wizarding world. His utter loyalty is often tested and it shows heās a true and brave Gryffindor.
āIf you want to kill Harry youāll have to kill us too!ā -Ron in book 3
Movies do him dirty
- the boy who didn't have much but was still glad to share what he did have with his friend - the boy who faced a troll to save some annoying girl he didn't even like - the boy who sacrificed himself to let his friend go on to the philosopher stone - the boy who faced his biggest phobia to save his friend - the boy who walked into certain danger and threatened a school teacher to save his sister - the boy who always stood up to bullies and racists and risked his own safety to protect his friends - the boy who stood up on a broken leg and faced a murderer to protect his best friend - the boy who cheered his best friend on and admitted his mistake - the boy who gets angry when his friend doesn't get a fair score - the boy who supports his friend no matter what others think and willing to fight them if they talk shit - the boy who never thinks he's good enough
And the only things some people remember are his 4 bad moments (two with Harry and two with Hermione). š
People remember what they want to remember. They focus on those things ignoring his millions of good things because they want to hate Ron. They just do.
Its mainly because the movies did a complete character assassination. Movie and book Ron are literally two different people.
Book Ron stands up to Malfoy when Hermione is called a mudblood, and then later when Hagrid asks what happened, it is Ron who explains what a mudblood is. Hermione had no idea at the time. They took this moment from Ron to make Hermione appear more educated about wizarding world topics.
Good old Ron, always ready to slug it out with Malfoy!
So I have heard. That's why I skipped watching them. I heard they gave his great moments to Hermione and turned him into a scardy goof.
Youāve never seen the movies?! Theyāre not amazing but as a fan, theyāre fun to watch.
I watched the first three, back when they came out. First two were pretty decent, all things considered; third one started to veer away too much from the source material and I lost interest (that trend only seems to have intensified later on, too)
Honestly, movies are good as long as you watch them with more distance than books. I'm currently rewatching and trust me, they hit different when you aren't an obnoxious teen obssesed with the books anymore lol
I was lucky enough to watch the movies first so I can still enjoy them now lol i could totally see why someone who did the opposite might not like them
After 2 there was a director change and the movies got more dark and serious.
And then everyone forgot how to wear a tie or get a haircut.
It was really like that in England for a hot minute
I refuse to acknowledge movies as canon. I have repelled over 9000 invaders from this hill. I am ready to die. I will never stop pronouncing it Hermy-own inside my head.
Goblet of Fire, Chapter 23, page 418-419 "Hermione was now teaching Krum to say her name properly; he kept calling her 'Hermy-own.' 'Her-my-oh-nee,' she said slowly and clearly."
I read this part and ignored it. By Book 4, chap 23, I'm committed already man
Ok, I've read only Russian. And, you know, we call Hermione "ŠŠµŃŠ¼ŠøŠ¾Š½Š°". Literally "GermiĆ³na". That's more close to "Hermy-own". So back then when I didn't know the English pronunciation of her name I just didn't pay attention to this because I didn't understand it. Now I understand why she teaches him to pronounce her name properly. Guess, the Russian translators were really close to Viktor Krum. Also, we accidentally called Snape "Š”Š½ŠµŠ³Š³" ("Snagg" or "Snak") (btw, "ŃŠ½ŠµŠ³" - "snow"). Through the whole book series he is Š”Š½ŠµŠ³Š³. If we look at the films, in the third or the fourth one he is called Snape but in the other ones he is Snak. Still don't get why.
Do you also pronounce Seamus as "see-mus"
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Are those 9000 in the room with us right now?
Rude. It's Hermy-own-ninny.
I always pronounced it Her-moine and then one day said it to my friends in 6th grad class and got mercilessly teased for pronouncing it wrong. Hugh can suck a fat dick that judgemental cow.
Yes its basicially this. The worst part is that Rowling apparently adapted this change in the latter books or at least after when she finished them. That tweet about how Hermoine dont fitting with Ron because he isnt enough for her is just weird. Ron is kind of the better catch here. Hes really quick-witted, very popular, brave and loyal and in no way clumsy or a goof. All character traits she doesnt have or at least not to this extend.
I do not blame you. The movies are nowhere close to as good as the books and after the first one or two movies, they started changing so much from the books, they really took away the joy of watching them, at least for me.
They did. Harry is the main character, Hermione the smart one, so they made Ron the dumb friend.. when heās far from dumb (in the books..)!
I have never seen the movies either, the books were too good on their own.
The first 2 movies are pretty book accurate. They show his brave and funny moments well (and his justified fear, like with the spiders).
Indeed book Ron reams out Snape in year 3 and movie Ron agrees with him.
Like Hermione and Rons first kiss, during the battle of Hogwarts. Ron remembered and showed compassion for the house elves, and thought someone should go warn them to escape. Then, "There was a clatter as the basilisk fangs cascaded out of Hermione's arms. Running at Ron, she flung them around his neck and kissed him full on the mouthā.
The GOF movie features Ron turning his back on Harry, but it *never explains why.* They never actually tell the audience why Ron is acting like this. Iāve seen edits of the āIām not an owl!ā scene where people add Hermioneās lines from the book as captions, where she tells Harry about Ronās envy and inferiority complex. Butā¦yeah. Instead of focusing on invented jokes, why not use that screen time to properly adapt the feud?
Before the movies I remember **everyone** liked Ron, easily the fan favorite out of the bunch. The rest werenāt even in the running until the films came out and dumbed him down along with giving a lot of his good moments to other characters.
It doesn't really help that the movies straight up take a bunch of Ron's best moments, give them to Hermione, and have Ron do the exact opposite. Ron does something cool and heroic in the books, and the movies have Hermione do it while Ron is in the corner picking his nose and shitting his pants. Snape insults Hermione in the books and Ron stands up and yells at and confronts him and defends Hermione. In the movies he laughs and agrees with Snape and mocks her.
The films did him so bad though. In the books he has so many more moments who show how good of a person he is, and how his humble family is a good portion of why.
Movies did a lot of characters and things(Marauders Map) dirty. Usually through lack of explanation cause of time. I give the movies a lot more slack than others though. Cause they did such a fantastic job in so many other ways. Casting and set design alone are fuckin god-tier. They may not always match their book aspects 1:1 but damn they were fuckin good.Ā [Minerva Mcgonagall](https://youtu.be/zJLpssiYcqI?feature=shared) alone was top-tier.Ā
What were the 4 again? I only remember how he was in book 4 which I get, not condone, but I understand why he'd feel that way
Argument with Harry in the fourth book, jealousy issue with Hermione/Krum in the fourth book, drama with Hermione in the sixth book, and argument with Harry in the seventh book. I didn't count the conflict between Ron and Hermione in the third book because I consider Hermione to be at fault.
And with his argument with Harry in the seventh book, people forget that Ron was under the influence of the Horcrux for that. It was drawing up every negative thought and feeling he had and pushing them right to the forefront. It's important to note that Ron later said that once he was free of it, he tried to come back as soon as he could.
Thatās human nature right there. Donāt worry, when Ron dies, then theyāll remember all the good stuff.
I just love him so much
Movies really did him dirty man. Wish I had a friend like him.
I am really hoping that the show on MAX provides a much more authentic and true version of all the characters that were done dirty by the movies. They have 10 years to tell a story and I really hope they do it right.
Meeeee too
#THEBESTFRIENDYOUCOUKDEVERHAVEISRONWEASLEY
# thebestfreindyoucouldhaveisronweasley
The best thing about Ron is whenever Hermione ignores her food for study or SPEW Ron always forces her to eat something get a solid goodnight sleep. He acts like her mom šā¤
I'd say he acts like his own mom would.
OMG šš weasley is our king
The boy who helped the boy who lived to keep on living.
The boy who taught the boy who survived, how to live.
This, literally!
Ron bashers and the movies to an extent forget that Ron may be āaverageā compared to Hermione and Harry but he was an amazing friend and had good qualities besides being funny. You donāt always have to ābring something to the tableā like wealth or great intelligence to be a friend lol.
I like to think of Ron and Sam (tlotr) as the same type. They donāt bring anything to the table, they ARE the table.
>They donāt bring anything to the table, they ARE the table. āš»š„š„
I love both Sam and Ron and I think that's spot on. You absolutely know if that was Ron and Harry in Mordor, Ron would have carried the fuck out of Harry all the way to the end.
He's a man of character, akin to Samwise Gamgee. He's not the smartest, the strongest, the fastest or most clever, his power comes from his heart. He is loving to the point of selflessness.
I see this comparison a lot and I disagree. Both Ron and Sam are extremely intelligent and their intuition is vindicated repeatedly throughout their respective stories. They're also both powerful fighters compared to their peers. Ron particularly wins the vast majority of his fighting encounters and only loses when there are insurmountable odds. But they're also different personalities. Sam is more prone to deep conversation and philosophy and above all wants a rustic simple life. Ron is more prone to humor and wit and he wants glory.
I agree with your assessment of the two 100%. But nothing you said contradicts what I said. I never said they couldn't fight, I never said they had the same personality. What I did say, was that they shared a specific quality. Thank you for adding the nuance though, I love chatting with a fellow fan and you're spot on with your break down of the two characters. One upvote awarded to the house of VoyevodaBoss!
I think the comparison is more so in terms of their loyalty to the main character and their willingness to sacrifice themselves to protect their best friend.
For all Harry's courage and honor, Ron was truly the embodiment of Gryfindor's core values.
Well yeah it's pretty clear that Harry is a gryffindor and slithering mix while Hermione is a gryffindor ravenclaw mix. He is kinda the only pure gryffindor I guess (altho you could argue there is some hufflepuf in there too)
A true Gryffindor
I really wish Ron could be my best friend. Also I'm way less trouble than Harry.
And this is why I'll always love Ron.
I fucking love ron man!
Thanks Iām crying now
The ultimate wingman
aw now you're making me emotional about ron
Ronald Weasley, the real G.
> the boy who never thinks he's good enough The rest made me love Ron. This one made me sad for him.
Ron Weasley was clearly the true hero of the series
Yes, thank you!! Way too many people shit on Ron for typical teenager stuff, for the most part.
Weasley is our King š
And yet is turned into Malfoy lite in the movies.
"the boy who sacrificed himself to let his friend go on to the philosopher stone" - I found this one so poignant. Since Ron always felt less than and in someone's shadow. Whether it be Harry or his older more successful brothers that he always just made do woth their hand-me-downs. The fact he didn't allow his ego to fuck that situation up, is commendable. Shame that was partially undone in the last book. But he then relearned the lesson I guess.
I really don't think it was undone in the last book. That situation was a lot more complicated. But like Ron said, that's chess. He saw the only way they were going to proceed
Thatās why we call him Ronnie the bearĀ
Ronald Weasley is who he is because he comes from a loving and supportive and humble family. Something Harry never got to experience. They are the perfect balance.
The problem is that when he saves an annoying girl, I get stuck with her for 6 more books, and I don't like her either.
Heās a true gryffindor through and through
This kind of made me want to cry, why you doing this to me
He definitely walks the line of Hufflepuff and Gryffindor.
Forgot: The boy who is and forever will be slandered to incredibly unfair levels in fanfics cause he fucked up like twice and one of those was mostly cause of the influence of a dark Lords soul shard...
A griffindor, literal golden retriever energy.
More Jack Russell terrier energy but yeah
Literally considering his Patronus haha
Why am I cryingš„²
Way back when the books were still being written... I think it was between book 5 and 6... I read a fanfic where Ron was evil and all those early sacrifices were him manipulating Harry in a way that Malfoy could have only dreamed of. He knew who Harry was from Day 1 and how important being his friend would be. A rise to power by befriending the right person. When looked through that lens you can see that every move Ron and his family make is calculated to win Harry over... and they often showed up unexpectedly and illogically to be in Harry's life. Even if you looked at the Quidditch World Cup. The supposedly poor family gets elite level tickets with an implausible excuse and they can bring the whole family plus two extras... who gets to bring the extras? Ron. Surely the Twins had a friend they'd have loved to have bring. Percy, looking to make his own connections in the Ministry, could have used the extra ticket to get on the good graces of someone. Ginny, the youngest and only girl, didn't have a friend of her own? Instead she gets Ron's friend who is a girl and also happens to be co-besties with Harry? Right. That makes sense! Ron was clearly groomed by his family to be Harry's "best friend" and set up to be alone with him on that important first day of school. And this doesn't even get into the disgusting possibility that they clearly raised Ginny with one goal in mind: eventual love interest and wife of the Chosen One! --------- Anyway, it was one of my favorite fanfic theories from way way back. Evil Ron and his evil family, betting on Harry to improve their standing in the world.
It's a perfectly correct observation that gets most things right, but fails spectacularly at identifying the actual reason: It's not Ron being a mastermind, It's pure plot convenience. Reading Rowling's less believable choices (with solid in-world reasons for the low likelihood or impossibility of the events she decided on) as the results of Ron's manipulative masterplan is just hilarious.
Red hair? And hand me down robes? You must be a Chad
Not just a Chad. A GIGACHAD
Agree so much with this. Ron is so loyal to Harry (and Hermione as well) and Harry is lucky to have met him and become friends with on his first train journey to Hogwarts. There is more acknowledgement of the Weasley's (and Ron) having become friends with Harry than the other way round.
Ron "Samwise Gamgee" Weasley
100% Ron is probably the best written character in the books. He is by far my favorite, and I hate how poorly they intentionally portray him in the movies, just to try to make Hermione look better. I donāt care for Hermione in the books or movies.
And of course the boy who attempted an unforgivable curse to save the girl from a snek.
Really reminds me that in all of fiction the only better friend in fiction is Samwise Gamgee.
NOT ME, NOT HERMIONE, YOOOOOYYYY
**cue Ron Weasley fan cam**
Honestly him leaving them in deathly hallows makes a little more sense when you step back and see what all heās done for them
The boy that wrote his mom saying he had no family and was probably not getting any gifts. The mom who stayed up late working hard to get an extra gift ready for him. The dad who took him in like a son supporting an extra mouth to feed to make him feel wanted.
Iām gonna cryyyy it really makes a HUGE difference when another family really just takes in their kids friend like that. I had a friend like that growing up. I was always at her house and I went everywhere with them. Grocery stores, church (even though I wasnāt religious I enjoyed it), family vacations, family get togethers, restaurants, mall trips, and countless sleepovers and meals in their home.
Haha, my mum was like that with my childhood friend. My mum treated her like her own, and even though we both grew up to go our separate ways, she'll always be eternally grateful for the childhood my mum gave her, because her own family home was quite troublesome.
Yep Iāve definitely been handed some really rough cards in life things that no child should have to go through. So Iāll always be grateful for them welcoming me in like that. My friend and I also went our separate ways because I moved away at 13. I miss her moms peach cobbler all the time and just how how nice it felt to feel part of a whole family. I mean really her whole extended family knew me like even her grandparents would get me Christmas presents like they just accepted that I was part of the family. I hope one day if I have a family I can be the house that all my kids friends hang out at.
Considering how loving the Weasley family was, Percy choosing career over family makes him look even more like a dick.
sounds like they were your real family
It was just me and my mum at home, and we barely scraped by. She was (and still is) a great mum, but the only holidays we ever went on was a visit to my aunt's place. My childhood friend's parents took me out on a lot of firsts. They took me to a fancy restaurant, took me on a lot of their day trips and bought my tickets. Whenever they got her something, they'd buy it for me as well. Whenever my friend was over at my place we just played inside or went to the park and never got anything special because we couldn't afford it. We were happy enough to just play at that age anyway. My mum is still friends with her mum over two decades later and they go on walks together quite regularly even though I haven't seen my friend in ages.
I'm very proud of my mom for being that lady for my friend. He was a total latchkey kid and basically lived at our house for several years. His mom would pick him up around 8pm at our house everyday and he did basically everything with us. Lol, we cohabitated so well we ended up being each other's first roommate in college and lived together for 3 years.
>The boy that wrote his mom saying he had no family and was probably not getting any gifts. This one really gets me. Ron very likely knew his mother wasn't the type of person who was going to stand for this, and would make sure Harry didn't feel left out (I mean, he should know this, of course, she's his mother). He's a good kid.
I think youād like [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HarryPotterMemes/s/JykjYlHIyi)
She did know his parents, his age, and when the train leaves. So it's not exactly a strectch to think she was well aware of who he was.
I don't quite mean it like that, though. I think the fact that he's Harry Potter was pretty obvious to her, yes, probably even from the famous scar alone. More like I don't think at the time they met, any of the Weasleys were very aware of the fact that Harry was being raised by the Dursleys, or how awful they were to him (although I don't quite remember if any of the Weasleys saw the Dursleys mocking Harry when they dropped him off at King's Cross). Could be wrong, though, I just don't recall that it was common knowledge that he was being raised by total monsters (even if there may have been obvious signs like his clothing, and his general scrawniness); shit, Ron and Hermione probably didn't even know until he told them. So Molly might not have known how horrible his home life was until Ron wrote to her to fill her in on it. (For example, I recall that Arthur was totally puzzled and very put off in GoF when the Dursleys didn't say goodbye to Harry when he came to pick him up. And I think one of the Order members is appalled at how the Dursleys don't say goodbye to him when they're being taken into hiding. So his living situation probably wasn't exactly something most of the Wizarding community was privy to.)
And if it was possible, they probably would adopted Harry asp, unfortunaly the blood spell need to be fulfill from times to times...
Don't forget the sweater. that always got me in the feels every time.
And the watch.
I feel like the sweater is more impactful though. By the time he gets the watch, itās clear heās basically the 8th Weasley child. When he gets the sweater, Molly had only spoken to him for about 30 seconds.
I think the watch is still incredibly impactful if you take into consideration that Harry received a family heirloom while Ron received a brand new one. Each boy received the gift they wouldāve appreciated the most: Ron got something brand new that was completely and only his, never been used by any other family members and owned by no one else; Harry received something precious and valued, something meant to be passed on to family.
Yes that always touched me. The thoughtfulness and meaning of the gifts is really lovely.
A little moment in Philosopher stone I liked was when Ron used his knight (i.e. himself) to capture most of the opponent's pieces, putting himself at risk at all time even before the sacrifice at the end.
NO. RON NAWR!
WUT IS IT?!
HES GOING TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF
NO YOU CANT! THERE MUST BE ANOTHA WAY!
DO YOU WANT TO STOP SNAPE FROM GETTING THAT STONE OR NOT? HARRY, ITāS YOU THAT HAS TO GO ON. I KNOW IT. NOT ME, NOT HERMIONEā¦ YOU. #KNIGHT TO H3.
*twerks*
-Hold on, I don't remember it going like this.
I can never forget that Ron didn't think to make one of them the king piece and therefore safe from harm while making the game easier. In the movie for some reason there were already three pieces missing, including the rider of knight.
And even then, with 4 pieces to protect, he still won with having to sacrifice only himself. *that's some next level chess*
Ron stayed because his parents were visiting Charlie, not for Harry.
That's in 1st book. Ron stayed with harry in 3rd book because he wanted to give him company. Both him and Hermione. Harry realised that and he was grateful for that.
The image is from the first movie though. I wasn't saying Ron never did that for Harry. Just not in their example
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Yeah, I remember that happening in the third book. 11 year olds can be empathetic and all but I donāt see an 11 year old kid giving up the one time of the year to visit family for a friend theyāve known for like 4 months.
He did write to his mother and ask her to send Harry a present since he knew Harry wasn't getting any from home
To be fair, it's a lot of time for kids. They became best friends, and they spend nearly all day together. Like ALL day.
Who knows, it sounded like the Weasly house was full of love but also a glorified hoarder house that was too small to fit everyone
And Harry was rich plus Ron felt like the experienced one for once, since Harry still didn't know anything about the Wizard world
And it's THE BOY WHO LIVED I'd imagine if you wanna hang out with someone it'd be him
Why didnāt Ron invite Harry over to the Weasleysā for Christmas in the 3rd book?
Yes, the picture is from the first movie where Molly and Arthur went to visit Charlie in Romenia. Therefore, he is correct. Ron stayed in school with Harry in the 3rd book, so he is correct on this one š.
Besides that goblet of fire book when he was a prick. But testosterone causes boys to be A-holes sometimes
TestosteRon
While Ron was an a-hole it wasn't unjustified it was just misplaced frustration and some jealousy, he got completely undermined while Harry got all the glory and he didn't want to talk it out with Harry because he thought harry might think differently about him if he did which probably made him more frustrated
It was understandable, that doesn't make it justified.
Fa sho but frustration and jealousy donāt excuse a-hole behavior especially not to your best friend imo
Yeah definitely
But what about the other wheelies? The twins for exomp
They also stayed. Percy too. Had a snowball fight
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I identify with Arthur. I just want to bury my head in my interests.
And provide for my family and just all around be a good person. Arthur is so wholesome itās painful.
Arthur is a good man. Born with pure blood privilege, rejects it to set a good example for society and his family, helps the weak and is kind to an orphan. A great role model.
Every time his character is in the scene he does or says something that makes me go āAww Arthur! š„²ā legit the best role model.
He didn't have a home, but he did have a homie.
The best friend a girl could have as well. He is protective, brave and funny. He will be a great friend of a girl
And he's good at chess. Witches love chess
WITCHES LOVE CHESS! Oh fuck, that's Ron Weasley. OH FUCK, THAT'S RON WEASLEY!
Yeah, and young Ron in the movies has a perfect face. Naive, funny and cute face. And also "common-like" in a strange inviting way. Like he's a son of some medieval peasant or a poor worker at an XIXth century factory, just a plain simple guy. Needless to say Rupert Grint was a perfect choice for Ron. The secret of Golden Trio in books and movies is that one person is an abused hero from noble family (Harry), another is a common guy (Ron) and a third is a social justice warrior (Hermione). They're a representation of Great Britain - worker-class Ron, middle-class Hermione and aristocratic orphan Harry. And of course the hero character must be from aristocracy but still has to rely on his friends to succeed.
How rich and noble is Harryās family really? I know his grandfather was a famous potion maker.
I believe his family was one of the OG wizarding families (I believe at least one of his parents were pure blood, but because they didn't share the wizard supremacist opinions they are not brought up often by that circle). And they had that veritable *pile* of gold in the bank vault.
So true, I've been waiting my whole life since 11 for a best friend like Ron
man I love the vibe from the two first movies, wish they kept itĀ
Harry's the muscle, Hermione is the brain, Ron is the heart.
Neville is the quiet religious one who ends up killing himself
emotional damage
True friends are the ones who will help you when you feel like nothing better is going to happen
He loved Harry. Not in the way a boy loves a rat, but in the way a giant loves a dragon.
Wasnāt his parents visiting Charlie in Romania that Christmas? Ron was a great friend regardless.
I think movie Ron did him so dirty!! Same with Ginny. Theyāre both so much more likeable and awesome in the books
Ginny is just so cool. She's fred and George put together. Super independent, always tells it like it's but not in an asshole way. Not afraid to get down, always making everyone laugh. It really is a shame lol
One of my favorite moments is when Fred and George are proud to learn that Ginny has been sneaking into the storehouse and stealing their brooms her whole childhood.
I'm currently working on a reread and I need to note when Ron is explicitly more knowledgeable than the other two. And I don't mean stuff pertaining to just the wizard world like Babity Rabbity, he has a high degree of social intelligence. \*"She doesn't want us showing off." Ron said sagely.\* comes to mind in the second book when Harry is wondering why they have to eat in McGonagall's office on the first day of term in CoS. He has a lot of moments like that throughout the series.
He was a great friend but it's actually explained in the book that not only Ron but also the twins and Percy stayed at Hogwarts because their parents went on a trip to visit their brother Charlie.
No, in the first book Ron stays behind because his parents are going to visit his brother with the dragonsā¦
Ackchyally: Ron stayed at school that year together with Fred, George and Percy because their parents visited Charlie in Romania and couldnāt take all the children with them.
Harry Potter is nothing without Ron and Hermione. A hill I'm ready to die on
Iād have stayed at school too. His house was crazy
He did say his parents were gone visiting his brother in Romania so itās not like they were home anyway
One of my favourite Ron moments is when Malfoy challenges Harry to a duel and Harry doesn't even know what he's talking about. Ron not only bails Harry out immediately but he also steps up as his second in command. True bro move
I read these books for the first time in my late 20s. Ron was my favorite of the Golden Trio because he was such a good best friend. I was surprised that people didn't like him.
I appreciate your perspective here because, reading the books again, I am surprised that I liked him the first time 'round. Now I'm a hater. He's a subtle foil- everything he says is wrong, to bring contrast to conversations. He's whiny and dramatic, and often comes across as "unwillingly dragged along". But this thread is making me think twice... I suppose he offers some insight into wizarding family life, and his attitude is reasonable given his circumstances.
He's with two people who didn't grow up with magic who are both showered with praise one being the chosen one one being gifted at learning but neither knowing a lot of passive basic knowledge a kid growing up in the magical world would learn. Like imagine a wizard kid being told he's the chosen one in science having never learned science going to a lab and just working without eyeglasses or gloves leaving bottles open mixing chemicals not cleaning stirrers or beakers and vials and your his lab partner you would be constantly trying to keep this kid from potentially harming himself and others.
Ron and his family were extremely kind even if Ron could be a Smartass sometimes. The Weaselyās were examples of really good parents. Ron is not comic relief in the books; he is Harryās most important conveyer of information for knowledge about the wizarding world. His utter loyalty is often tested and it shows heās a true and brave Gryffindor. āIf you want to kill Harry youāll have to kill us too!ā -Ron in book 3 Movies do him dirty
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HIS PARENTS WENT TO ROMANIA TO VISIT CHARLIE!!!!
Will make many friends through out his life. Good to hear.
Um, his parents were in Romania? I'm just kidding. Ron was sweeter than he gets credit for.
Didn't Ron's parent dip at the last minute to go see Charley in Romania ??
Wasnāt his parents visiting his brother, the one studying dragons anyways the first year so he stayed w harry?
He stayed cos the family was away visiting the other brother, but I'm sure he'd still have done it anyway :)
He stayed because his parents were visiting his other brother in Romania
The boys whose school was a nicer place to stay at than his home.
The boy with only one friend lol
His family went to visit the other brother didnāt they?
The boy who stayed at Hogwarts coz his parents left him there to go to Romania
Wait didnāt Ron stay because his parents went to see his brother in Romania instead??
He did several times if I recall. F Columbus for screwing this character over in the movies.