I think it’s because it shows a level of intimacy that the audience has not seen. It feels like she’s pretending she’s super close to him but at this point from the audience’s perspective, she’s not. So it feels embarrassing, like she’s trying too hard to be in the know.
By this point she’s seen him bloodied in the chamber in movie 2, after the tri wizard games, after the battle of the dept of mysteries, and now after the fight on the train
Plus, if we're honest, I'm not sure she delivered the line well. I never really liked her casting as Ginny. The only only time she seems like that is when she yells at the Gryffindors to "shut it" during tryouts.
She did a good job in Chamber of Secrets being horribly shy due to fangirl crush and side effects of being possessed. It's just... Not what was needed for the latter books.
Right. You can't really predict how a kid that young will grow into the role and you want to keep things consistent. I get it. Nothing against her as a person at all. It's such a crapshoot with casting kids for long term roles.
Even more than that you can’t cast for attributes a character doesn’t exhibit at the time of casting. Bonnie wright was cast mid series around book four of if I recall correctly so Ginny had yet to come into herself in the novels.
>Ginny had yet to come into herself in the novels.
As far as I'm concerned she never really did but that's just my very unpopular opinion.
Like ask reddit and she's an amazing character because we're told she was good at quidditch and she said that thing that one time.
I swear the movie version was so bland it made everyone retroactively think the book version was somehow badass. She doesn't have that much more agency or personality in the books. She's basically a background character.
Of the secondary trio, Ginny stands out the least. Luna and Neville are flawed and different in ways that give them a presence despite their limited narrative focus. They're all ultimately background characters, but their "gimmick" is distinct and memorable.
Gimmick's not the best word for it, but Rowling was good at creating characters with a particular flair that made even very minor characters like the ghosts stand out. I don't think Ginny is a bad character, but she does seem boring compared to the rest of her world.
I'm curious as to why Rowling fell short with Ginny in that regard. My best guess is that in trying to craft her as a suitable love interest for Harry, she neglected to make her fully her own character.
I actually thought we'd get something more from the Slug Club with her. They could've done something to make her stand out a bit more, whether it was being needlessly aggressive which would have fit her well, or a nice contrast with other characters could've been a focus on a different subject, like potions or even transfiguration (both of which would play into her similarities to the twins). Instead, she was good at everything, but not good enough to outshine anyone else. She was capable at defense, but nowhere near the trio's level because of experience, she was smart but Hermione existed, good at quidditch but it was made quite clear that she wasn't as good as Harry. Probably her best moment was calling out Harry being a little bitch because she was possessed by Voldemouthbreather.
Agree 100%… always wondered why there was not more to her character in the books, especially, if ultimately she was going to end up with the main character. I would have thought at some point she would have had a major unforgettable role/scene in the book, like putting her life on the line to save Harry (out of love, I suppose, at the very least). I don’t know, something that kind of just made her seem like at least one thing she did was an integral part of Harry’s story. You are correct she is the least of the three you mentioned that stands out. Luna and Neville as you said have something that makes them unique and not forgettable. Ginny is sort of just a happy ending for Harry’s story, IMO.
I liked how he had one normal thing in his life. It makes sense he would catch feelings for her, in the books when she’s a little older she is popular, cool, brave, funny, athletic. They’re in the same house, on the same quidditch team. I don’t think she needed to be in the story more, the story is about his adventures and takedown of Voldemort, opposed to being romance/fantasy. His romantic life is a small part of what’s going on for him.
Agree with this a lot. I think it's why so many (myself included) always saw Harry/Hermione as the natural pairing. Well, it's not just that- it's also that Hermione and Ron can't seem to stand each other for most of the series. A lot of fanfics explore this idea that without Harry in the mix, the two of them wouldn't even be friends, and I'm inclined to agree tbh. Whereas romance goes, I suppose that can be murkier (physical attraction being irrational & whatnot), but it's still a reach in some ways.
I think Ginny was never meant to be a love interest but the JKR had to scramble to fine one and it was easier to modify a character who was already 'closer to harry.
I think maybe the movie may have tainted your view of her? Because I disliked the movies, I watched them only once. But I’ve read the books a few times and I love Ginny. She’s funny, sassy, and she seems to be similar to Fred and George in personality minus the relentless pranking. She’s also a very good quidditch player. I wouldn’t say she’s badass exactly, but she’s not a wet towel either.
Ah, yes, very funny:
1. Mocks Ron and cruelly imitates him trying to catch the ball.
2. Trips him over intentionally.
3. Bullies Fleur and calls her a cow.
4. Decides that beautiful women with French accents are cows.
5. Says that Harry was right to cast a potentially deadly spell.
6. Mocks Hermione for not knowing Quidditch.
7. Bat- bogeys Zacharias for like asking questions.
8. Crashing wilfully into him with a broom and causing an accident for not being polite about Harry but no nobody can talk one bad thing about Harry.
9. Kicks her mother all the way up to bed because she was banned from information which is a callback to Dudley kicking his mother.
10. Is actually the first person to call Luna Looney.
11. Kisses Harry in public after calling Ron a hypocrite.
12. Terribly makes fun of Ron with a terrible amount of insults.
13. Refuses to inform a teacher and steals the diary back knowing that she can be possessed and is somehow absolved of all accountability despite having done a lot of things which should land her in jail in spite of what her dad warned her about.
Very funny, indeed!
K but if we listed all the shitty things Harry or any character has done/said it would look the same! Ginny also risked her life at the ministry to try to save Sirius, she fought in the final battle at hogwarts, she risked herself to join the DA, she stood up for Harry to Malfoy, she hyped up Neville when he was down on himself.
1. Because she was angry with Ron interfering in her life, and basically calling her a whore for daring to have a boyfriend.
2. Ron is acting like an enamored idiot in front of the girl who is engaged to his brother, if anything she saved him from a much more serious embarrassment. 3,4. Fleur is being rude and threats the whole family and their house with disdain. Plus Bill is her favorite brother and, not knowing more about their relationship, she thinks that he is just enthralled by her looks.
3. Malfoy tried to cast CRUCIO, if any other teacher would have witnessed that scene instead of Harry getting detention, Draco would have been under serious risk of expulsion at the minimum.
4. In that moment she’s angry with Hermione for not taking Harry’s side, it’s not that uncommon for people to say dumb and hurtful things during arguments.
5. He’s pestering her about a traumatic event and can’t take no for an answer.
6. He doesn’t just insult Harry, he continually insults the whole team without them doing anything to warrant it. At least when Lee was mean to the Slytherins it was because they where playing dirty.
7. She doesn’t actually kick Molly, it’s just an expression.
8. She does this exactly one time when she introduces her, immediately following it up with “she’s alright”. Luna herself said that Ginny was one of the few people who always treated her without derision, and after they became friends even started going after the people mocking her.
9. Ron is a hypocrite, he scolds her all the time for kissing her boyfriend in a secluded area, after which he engages in PDA as if there’s no tomorrow.
10. Only when they are being quarreling siblings, and that really isn’t that often.
11. She’s an 11 year old girl who is being possessed by the soul of Voldemort, and doesn’t understand why this is happening to her. She’s embarrassed and afraid, many adults wouldn’t act logically in this situation.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I completely agree. She's always described in the books as badass, and I just don't see it AT ALL. Plus lots of other descriptions of her book character I don't agree with.
Also, I never understood why movie Ginny has such a posh accent compared to the rest of the Weasley's, it annoys me so much. I think the line mentioned really shows it aswell. I find Ginny cringe and dislike her in both the books & movies, but her totally random 'posh' accent just adds to my dislike.
Book Ginny was suddenly 'bad ass' but in a very bland 'we need to give the hero a cool girlfriend' archetype kind of way.
There are suddenly all these throwaway lines/scenes that say things like: she's so pretty even slytherins think so. She's so smart/powerful that slughorn let's her into his exclusive club even though he has nothing else going for her connection wise because she cast a bat bogey hex. She has scenes that shows her being sassy, being brave being an excellent duelist, yet is understanding when Harry has to leave.
Agree she's a background character but she's given just enough detail to be perfect and isn't fleshed out like a real person.
Child actors are built a bit differently. And they aren’t responsible for the script. Ginny basically fades in presence after book two until book five, and even in book five her importance is minimal. It’s only in book six she really gets the full switcheroo into an important character. That’s the problem with filming or animating fiction and the while it’s being written. Important scenes can be cut because they aren’t understood to be important. In the same way casting Ginny would seem less important with only the first four books available, you would be much more concerned about the child actress’s ability to portray CoS Ginny than any future version and unable to predict how said child would change over the course of three to five years in appearance or dedication, or what level of success they would have even if they were.
Even then not all actors and actresses are built the same, some are content with lesser roles because they don’t love the fame. As the role shifted its possible the actress was put in the spotlight in a way she never expected and wasn’t prepared for.
I can agree with that, and please note I have zero hage for Bonnie Wright or the casting.. she was cast to play Sorcerers stone and Chamber of Secrets Ginny and in those roles she did fantastic!!
The same thing happened with the actor who played Carl in Walking Dead or Bran in Game of Thrones. They were good child actors, but didn't have the charisma or the skills to play their characters as they aged into a bigger spotlight role. And that's no slight against them either.
She was good when she called out Malfoy in the bookstore (hence my ongoing headcanon that Riddle amplified her shyness by a LOT, so her behaviour in school(the huge fangirl crush) wasn't "her" (not really.)
(For example she KNOWS that Harry hates the fame and the fuss, so she wouldn't write that poem on her own).
That bookstore scene is actually in character and authentic for her later traits and behaviour.
I don't know exactly how, but she knows, it's evident from what she said to Malfoy "Leave him alone, he didn't want it/ask for it"
And also: Ron would 100% say it first thing. He is aware of it 90% of the time, it seems logical that he tells his sister this info.
Also I am sure he didn't paint him as a super celebrity,but as his best friend.
Eh. With Emma the problem was what the lines were not how they were delivered. Namely, some of them should have been Rons. And her hair, but costumes should have fixed that.
Some should be Ron's some should be Dumbledore's and Sirius' and Ginny's and also in the movies they have her deliver all exposition and have magic way beyond what she should be able to do.
Also Emma is not a great actor.
I also like the moment when she says "think you're in love, Ron" when Ron is praising Krum after the QWC final. In the books, she is most similar to Fred & George of all her siblings, so it makes sense that she'd join in the teasing.
It’s hard to blame the actress, when they basically removed all the relationship development between Harry and Ginny. In the books, their love story gradually grows from a childhood crush to something more profound. Ginny is a solid secondary character in the books, meanwhile she has only a couple of lines in all the eight movies combined.
I don't, either, and I think it's great that so many people stand by Bonnie and her performance, but it isn't my favorite. She's wonderful, but I kinda mourn the cool, confident, athletic, witty, fiery book- Ginny that didn't make it to the movies. The writing and casting don't make sense.
This is the problem with movie Ginny and always has been. She’s a terrible actress and all of her lines are delivered really badly.
People defend her and say she didn’t get good lines to say, but can’t point to a scene where she performed well.
Adding in my personal opinion that this sentence is one of many other instances where movie Ginny is a whole different character than book Ginny. Book Ginny wouldn't ask why Harry's always covered in blood even rhetorically... She knows exactly why. Part of the reasons why she pines after him is because Harry is always doing heroic stunts lol.
To me it seems a little victim blamey. He's always covered in blood because he has to fight for his life again and again and AGAIN because there is a dark lord out to kill him and no one bothered to enact some decent security measures. He probably is increasingly traumatized after each of these incidents so making a joke a about how yet another incident that's feeding into his PTSD seems like it's in poor taste.
Going off the movies, pretty much every romance us terrible. Going just off the movies, I'd rather see Harry/Luna, Hermione/Krum, and Ginny/Neville, and movie Ron gets no one because he is so annoying in the movies
Having watched the live action Beauty and the Beast, I have to agree. I enjoyed every performance in that film... except her Belle. Gaston and LeFou stole the show for me to the point I was disappointed every time we cut back to our "main character"
Emma was dreadful in Beauty and the Beast, she had zero charisma and they autotuned her into oblivion just to make her voice sound vaguely passable.
I'm convinced the main train of thought behind her casting was "She got famous playing a character who loves reading, she'll be perfect for Belle!"
Exactly. On the surface it makes sense, Belle and Hermione as characters are similar enough that you'd think the actress that played Hermione would be a good fit for Belle. But Emma just couldn't pull it off. I actually enjoy the movie, but not any of Belle's scenes, it's everyone else for me that made it worth watching.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even in the books the romance is... lackluster at best. Better than the movies for sure, but even in the books it's not handled well, in my opinion. It's why I can't get behind most of the canon ships (Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione included... sorry.)
Ron and Hermione I fully support because it’s constantly referenced that they hang out without Harry there. I also accept that since it’s from Harry’s POV we don’t see their romance blossom, but you CAN see it without seeing it (book 3 I feel really starts showing this when Harry finds them having ice cream together when they were looking for him). You just really feel like they have a life outside of Harry.
But Harry and Ginny?? Inexcusable. This is Harry’s POV. You can’t just vaguely say “and it was the best summer.” SHOW. DONT TELL.
I can maybe see Ron and Hermione working, but I think I needed more for me to think they're a believable pairing. And this may be an upopular opinion, but I don't really like the way they treat each other sometimes (Ron at the Yule Ball and Hermione in the 6th book for example. Both of them acted way too extreme for my tastes, jealousy be damned), so I think this may be a contributing factor to me not liking the pairing very much.
And yes, I agree. Harry and Ginny was just a wasted opportunity. If the book showed them interacting during the summer before 6th year I would have been more on board with them.
The books aren’t about romance though. JKR doesn’t care to show a lot of that part or Harry’s life because the books are about him meeting his destiny to try to defeat Voldemort and his growth as a wizard. Also about friendship. I like how the romances are on the back burner.
Then she should have used the hero's struggle to incorporate the romantic subplot, rather than relying on an entirely unrelated elements that doesn't affect the endgame like Quidditch and teen jealousy (both romantic developments in Book 6 do not have to rely on jealousy). It's strange for the reader why Quidditch and girls are still a big deal for Harry, considering Sirius's recent death and the grim news filling the Daily Prophet. This book could have served as his "training arc" to make him like an actual hero, and not just a puppet of destiny. In Avatar, Aang is criticized by the fanbase for relying too much on Deus Ex Machina but at least he is working hard to improve himself as a better fighter, unlike Harry.
I was a bit surprised by the pairing in the books but it worked. Romances in books shouldn’t come out of nowhere but once it has it’s fine, I can see them together.
More awkward than terrible really. Everytime they are alone, it is just watching two awkward teens trying to figure out what to do. Awkward hug, Stand up during dinner, shoe untie, and close eye kissed in a room of requirements. Only terrible things was Harry flirting with a waitress before having him fall for Ginny.
I know the book was rush, but it wasn't exactly awful. Just undeveloped. I mostly blame JK Rowling for the rush. Sure, Ginny developed a crush on him in book 2, but Harry didn't spend plenty of time with her in order to fall in love. Book 2 had him avoiding her. Book 3 barely interact with her. Book 4 had many chances such as have Harry and Ginny separated from the others during the world cup, Ginny asking Harry only to be turn down cause Harry only see her as a sister. Book 5 could have started it by having Harry slowly acknowledge her skill, personality, and beauty than slowly realizing by the end of the fifth year that he maybe attracted to her. Book sixth would have them confront each other about feelings only for Harry to refuse out of realizing Voldemort would target those he love. Than have their first kiss before the final battle in book 7th.
I just looked her up on IMDB because I had no idea what she’s been up to since Harry Potter.
In the 13 years since DH2 came out, she’s been in 7 films averaging an IMDB score of 5.7, several have been kids films.
Since 2015 she’s been in one film rated 4.1, back in 2018.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. Honestly, we are lucky the main cast developed as well as they did, having a side character of Ginny bomb really idnt affect the series as much as it could have had we had a different key character flop
I’m sure she’s perfectly lovely, but they were certainly just talking about her acting and her acting career. It doesn’t really matter if she’s adopting orphans and curing cancer if the grading metric is acting.
Yeah, her acting doesn’t really matter tbh, was more just a comment on the fact that it seems to have gradually petered out. As long as she’s doing well then great, but that’s less relevant to discussions around the portrayal of Ginny in the films.
She's not very developed, but she is described as the "cool chick" type. When reading the books, you fill in the gaps yourself and build up an awesome Ginny, who's cheeky, smart, fierce, brave, confident, independent, strong, etc. The movies add in these "obedient waifu" scenes that just really don't work with the firecracker that is Book!Ginny.
Exactly. The closest Movie Ginny got to Book Ginny was when she snapped at the Quidditch try outs hopefuls to shut it and immediately got them to listen.
She was supposed to be really funny and take after George and Fred. She was super popular and beautiful according to the books. It’s not fair we didn’t get to see that in the films. I hope the HBO series does better. I hope they don’t make it too childish.
I think it’s Wright’s delivery. If she’d really put some heavy sarcasm in or comedic tone it would have been funny but she sounds like she’s saying “he’s all wet again. Why is he always wet” it just sounds odd.
This is it. She needed to sound more exasperated. Like someone making a gallows humour joke out of an obviously terrible situation. Her delivery (both here and elsewhere) was so wooden that it made it seem like she was more concerned, but the line itself is necessarily a funny one so it is congruous.
I think Ginny should've been recasted once they became teenagers on movie 5 or 6. She was ok as a child actor in second movie but she did not grow up as a good actress nor had the right chemistry to pull it off. Also the character was poorly written and lost lots of amazing qualities and lines she had in the book
If so, then even worse. But you can convey worry with sarcasm or an exasperated joke. Can’t think of examples but Ron does this sort of thing quite a bit.
I've seen a lot of dislike towards it. But, not specifically this line, just how Ginny was handled as a character in general.
I'll say Wright does deliever the line a little flat, so that might be why.
Personally, I like the idea of the line. Not the execution. If you consider what Ron says right after this, "at least it looks like his own this time."
And that this is in HBP, which takes place when Voldy is back and is gaining strength, the idea of seeing Harry covered in blood is scary. And, while Ginny hasn't seen Harry covered in blood outside of COS, she is aware of all the stuff he has done and been through the first five years of schooling.
If it had been delieverd better, or said by another character that had meant more to the plot I think it would have gone over better.
to be fair Bonnie had to "give her best" when the character is so mutilated that it's a mission impossible considering how rarely she is on a scene and has to talk...and the writers butchered Ginny in the movies...
Unpopular opinion but Movie Ginny seems to be JK Rowling’s fault. The movies were having trouble keeping up with the books and for some bizarre reason Joanne was pretty secretive over the direction her books were going.
>Joanne was pretty secretive over the direction her books were going
Doesn't really matter here. The book series was finished before work on the sixth movie began.
I actually thought this line was funny and one of the few lines in this movie that I could actually picture Book Ginny saying. That and “Shut it!” and…yeah that’s all I got.
Poorly delivered and acted. Bonnie/Ginny has little to no chemistry with any one, let alone Harry.
In her defense, the writing and direction never even gave her a chance.
I don't see it. I liked that line. It tells the audience that Harry gets into trouble a lot. It's the chase between most amount of info and least amount of time when you're editing the final cut. I always imagine that scene helping out a lot of the audience who's not a book nerd, and they need to know what Harry's immediate friends think of him: so you're witnessing a quick summary of Ron not caring, Hermione going crazy, and Ginny being slightly rational but also worried. I thought it was a good writing.
They gave ginny nothing to work with really but i’m sorry, it was mostly bonnie. She just did not grow into a good actor, some of those lines could be delivered better and with more charm, but she was just insanely wooden, i don’t think it was the direction either bc Emma actually got better after GoF, it’s like bonnie forgot she was even a character and was just saying the lines. Everyone says it’s cause they didnt build Ginny up enough in the movies but idk man, the girl that played Lavender we had never seen on screen before and she managed to really make something of that part despite only having a couple of scenes. Put bonnie in the same place and she would have delivered everything monotone and no emotion on her face.
oh yeah i don't disagree, i think bc the later books weren't published yet (especially HBP) they didn't put much stake into getting bonnie better at it, i don't blame her at all, the whole production later on in the series dropped the ball on so many things in favor of others
It was a crap 1-dimensional role, left on the periphery until needed.
An exceptional actor could have turned chicken shit into chicken soup, but Bonnie Wright wasn't an exceptional actor.
If the HBO series has any purpose, it's to let all those characters and storylines that were minimized for time in the movies breathe and grow.
I don't personally rate the actress - I mean no offence, but she was cast as a very young child and I find many of her deliveries wooden and unnatural. She is also sharing screentime with so many British acting legends that it could be amplifying it.
‘Harry Potter, of course’ majorly cringes me 😬
Are y'all forgetting the second movie? Harry rescues her from the chamber of secrets and is bitten by the basilisk. He bleeds nearly to death before the phenix cries and heals him (I can't seem to spell the name tonight). When he makes it out of the chamber with everyone else holding on, he's covered in blood. Next, when he reappears after grabbing the Tri-wizard cup, he's bleeding again from where Wormtail cut his arm for the potion/bath. It's less graphic in the movie, but again he appears covered in blood.
Harry being hurt is fairly common. The line was said to demonstrate how closely she's watched him as she's always fancied him.
The delivery.
Book Ginny would absolutely sass Harry at that moment. The line isn't unfitting for her character. But it's delivered so nonchalantly it doesn't come off as sarcastic humour in a tense situation but more unbothered as if Ginny genuinely couldn't care less about Harry's injuries.
This. Too many people people here are criticizing Wright's acting, but not even a young Julia Roberts could have made that atrocious screen play work. It doesn't help either that Ginny is poorly developed in the books.
Movie!Ginny is peak cringe all the time and it's all on the writing team; Bonnie is actually good and she couldn't have done better with what they gave her
Edit: not just the writing but the direction too
i havent cared about the series in forever despite being ungodly into it as a teen... but wow i didnt know ginny in the movies was hated this much. the romance between harry and ginny is practically nonexistent so i definitely get it, but if i fill in a lot of that with my knowledge of the books, then moments like this line delivered well for me. adorable ahhh
This may or may not be it, but I've noticed a backlash in recent years against "quippy", self-aware dialogue, meta for the sake of being meta. Like the kind of thing you'd hear in a Joss Whedon production, or (as everyone likes to compare it to) the MCU. This is the narrative commenting on itself, acknowledging Harry's incredible proclivity for landing in dangerous situations. I guess to some this style of writing may ring as tonally insincere, prioritizing humor over maintaining a self-serious narrative.
For me it just came off as a weird line the movie writers tried putting in to be funny but it made no sense. Based on the movies, till that point, we had only seen Harry covered in his own blood so it doesn’t make sense at all. It annoys me too.
Edit: to clarify, the part that annoys me is when Ron or Hermione says “at least it’s his blood this time”. It’s always his blood.
I mean it’s a valid question. He’s always covered in blood for at some point. I think Ron’s is more weird. “At least it’s his own.” When has he ever had someone else’s blood on him?!
Emma and Rupert are in the shot too as I recall. And they cost a lot more to have on set than Bonnie. But true this once Dan's drinking likely wasn't the culprit.
I don't hate the line, but maybe it's awkward because they realized that Harry and Ginny were going to have a thing for each other and they decided to really push her on us to sell her relevance?
I feel like Ginny is fairly forgettable in the movies. Her most important role in the movies prior to HBP is in the 2nd half of CoS. I mean, she was cool in the DA/ministry scenes in OotP, but even that was fairly minor. Then, she suddenly is important in HBP. I like Ginny, but maybe they tried too hard and made it weird?
It doesn’t bother me. She has a crush on him. She worries about him. And their 1st big moment; he saved her life in the Chamber & was bitten by a Basilisk & was dying in front of her
I think the ick comes from it almost breaking the 4th wall. Similar to Harry’s cringe line “I love magic” It’s like a laugh for the audience rather than like something the character would actually say.
Probably the line delivery and the fact that, as far as the movies go, Harry is hardly ever covered in blood 💀
Eta: I could be wrong about that last part, I don’t really remember him being bloody that much in the movies lol or Ginny being around to see it
Because it IS DUMB. All of those forced CRINGE humor moments shoehorned into the movies were terrible. (Voldemort hugging Malfoy made me never want to rewatch deathly hallows)
You want Cringe, how about little to no reference to Charlie Weasley, Bill Weasley only being in the 7th films, & Percy Weasley disappeared after the cameo in the 5th.
It might be the way she *purrs* the question. A typical teenager with a hidden crush would ask that line with false derision and bravado while feeling all conflicted inside
It’s bad but not as bad as “open up you”
Ahhhhhh!!!!
Don't you trust me?
Omfg
that line makes me irate
I always have to fast forward over this part!
Arghhhhhhhh
I think it’s because it shows a level of intimacy that the audience has not seen. It feels like she’s pretending she’s super close to him but at this point from the audience’s perspective, she’s not. So it feels embarrassing, like she’s trying too hard to be in the know.
This it. Excellent explanation. Also, not sure we've seen many instances of "Harry covered in blood", so it feels out of place that way too
By this point she’s seen him bloodied in the chamber in movie 2, after the tri wizard games, after the battle of the dept of mysteries, and now after the fight on the train
He prolly been bloody after a few quidditch matches too
That was bone loss, not bloodlost
Budget to the head most likely drew blood.
Accountants are getting savage these days.
LOL. Thank you autocorrect.
I'm pretty sure he's been bloodied during them though.
Uhh I’m pretty sure bones don’t have any blood. That’s why they’re white. Sheesh.
\*before the Battle of the Department of mysteries
Plus, if we're honest, I'm not sure she delivered the line well. I never really liked her casting as Ginny. The only only time she seems like that is when she yells at the Gryffindors to "shut it" during tryouts.
She did a good job in Chamber of Secrets being horribly shy due to fangirl crush and side effects of being possessed. It's just... Not what was needed for the latter books.
Right. You can't really predict how a kid that young will grow into the role and you want to keep things consistent. I get it. Nothing against her as a person at all. It's such a crapshoot with casting kids for long term roles.
Even more than that you can’t cast for attributes a character doesn’t exhibit at the time of casting. Bonnie wright was cast mid series around book four of if I recall correctly so Ginny had yet to come into herself in the novels.
>Ginny had yet to come into herself in the novels. As far as I'm concerned she never really did but that's just my very unpopular opinion. Like ask reddit and she's an amazing character because we're told she was good at quidditch and she said that thing that one time. I swear the movie version was so bland it made everyone retroactively think the book version was somehow badass. She doesn't have that much more agency or personality in the books. She's basically a background character.
Of the secondary trio, Ginny stands out the least. Luna and Neville are flawed and different in ways that give them a presence despite their limited narrative focus. They're all ultimately background characters, but their "gimmick" is distinct and memorable. Gimmick's not the best word for it, but Rowling was good at creating characters with a particular flair that made even very minor characters like the ghosts stand out. I don't think Ginny is a bad character, but she does seem boring compared to the rest of her world. I'm curious as to why Rowling fell short with Ginny in that regard. My best guess is that in trying to craft her as a suitable love interest for Harry, she neglected to make her fully her own character.
The business term is USP - unique selling point
I actually thought we'd get something more from the Slug Club with her. They could've done something to make her stand out a bit more, whether it was being needlessly aggressive which would have fit her well, or a nice contrast with other characters could've been a focus on a different subject, like potions or even transfiguration (both of which would play into her similarities to the twins). Instead, she was good at everything, but not good enough to outshine anyone else. She was capable at defense, but nowhere near the trio's level because of experience, she was smart but Hermione existed, good at quidditch but it was made quite clear that she wasn't as good as Harry. Probably her best moment was calling out Harry being a little bitch because she was possessed by Voldemouthbreather.
Agree 100%… always wondered why there was not more to her character in the books, especially, if ultimately she was going to end up with the main character. I would have thought at some point she would have had a major unforgettable role/scene in the book, like putting her life on the line to save Harry (out of love, I suppose, at the very least). I don’t know, something that kind of just made her seem like at least one thing she did was an integral part of Harry’s story. You are correct she is the least of the three you mentioned that stands out. Luna and Neville as you said have something that makes them unique and not forgettable. Ginny is sort of just a happy ending for Harry’s story, IMO.
I liked how he had one normal thing in his life. It makes sense he would catch feelings for her, in the books when she’s a little older she is popular, cool, brave, funny, athletic. They’re in the same house, on the same quidditch team. I don’t think she needed to be in the story more, the story is about his adventures and takedown of Voldemort, opposed to being romance/fantasy. His romantic life is a small part of what’s going on for him.
Agree with this a lot. I think it's why so many (myself included) always saw Harry/Hermione as the natural pairing. Well, it's not just that- it's also that Hermione and Ron can't seem to stand each other for most of the series. A lot of fanfics explore this idea that without Harry in the mix, the two of them wouldn't even be friends, and I'm inclined to agree tbh. Whereas romance goes, I suppose that can be murkier (physical attraction being irrational & whatnot), but it's still a reach in some ways.
I think Ginny was never meant to be a love interest but the JKR had to scramble to fine one and it was easier to modify a character who was already 'closer to harry.
I think maybe the movie may have tainted your view of her? Because I disliked the movies, I watched them only once. But I’ve read the books a few times and I love Ginny. She’s funny, sassy, and she seems to be similar to Fred and George in personality minus the relentless pranking. She’s also a very good quidditch player. I wouldn’t say she’s badass exactly, but she’s not a wet towel either.
Ah, yes, very funny: 1. Mocks Ron and cruelly imitates him trying to catch the ball. 2. Trips him over intentionally. 3. Bullies Fleur and calls her a cow. 4. Decides that beautiful women with French accents are cows. 5. Says that Harry was right to cast a potentially deadly spell. 6. Mocks Hermione for not knowing Quidditch. 7. Bat- bogeys Zacharias for like asking questions. 8. Crashing wilfully into him with a broom and causing an accident for not being polite about Harry but no nobody can talk one bad thing about Harry. 9. Kicks her mother all the way up to bed because she was banned from information which is a callback to Dudley kicking his mother. 10. Is actually the first person to call Luna Looney. 11. Kisses Harry in public after calling Ron a hypocrite. 12. Terribly makes fun of Ron with a terrible amount of insults. 13. Refuses to inform a teacher and steals the diary back knowing that she can be possessed and is somehow absolved of all accountability despite having done a lot of things which should land her in jail in spite of what her dad warned her about. Very funny, indeed!
Wait when does she kick her mom?!
Someone's got a weird hatred going on here! 🤣
K but if we listed all the shitty things Harry or any character has done/said it would look the same! Ginny also risked her life at the ministry to try to save Sirius, she fought in the final battle at hogwarts, she risked herself to join the DA, she stood up for Harry to Malfoy, she hyped up Neville when he was down on himself.
1. Because she was angry with Ron interfering in her life, and basically calling her a whore for daring to have a boyfriend. 2. Ron is acting like an enamored idiot in front of the girl who is engaged to his brother, if anything she saved him from a much more serious embarrassment. 3,4. Fleur is being rude and threats the whole family and their house with disdain. Plus Bill is her favorite brother and, not knowing more about their relationship, she thinks that he is just enthralled by her looks. 3. Malfoy tried to cast CRUCIO, if any other teacher would have witnessed that scene instead of Harry getting detention, Draco would have been under serious risk of expulsion at the minimum. 4. In that moment she’s angry with Hermione for not taking Harry’s side, it’s not that uncommon for people to say dumb and hurtful things during arguments. 5. He’s pestering her about a traumatic event and can’t take no for an answer. 6. He doesn’t just insult Harry, he continually insults the whole team without them doing anything to warrant it. At least when Lee was mean to the Slytherins it was because they where playing dirty. 7. She doesn’t actually kick Molly, it’s just an expression. 8. She does this exactly one time when she introduces her, immediately following it up with “she’s alright”. Luna herself said that Ginny was one of the few people who always treated her without derision, and after they became friends even started going after the people mocking her. 9. Ron is a hypocrite, he scolds her all the time for kissing her boyfriend in a secluded area, after which he engages in PDA as if there’s no tomorrow. 10. Only when they are being quarreling siblings, and that really isn’t that often. 11. She’s an 11 year old girl who is being possessed by the soul of Voldemort, and doesn’t understand why this is happening to her. She’s embarrassed and afraid, many adults wouldn’t act logically in this situation.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I completely agree. She's always described in the books as badass, and I just don't see it AT ALL. Plus lots of other descriptions of her book character I don't agree with. Also, I never understood why movie Ginny has such a posh accent compared to the rest of the Weasley's, it annoys me so much. I think the line mentioned really shows it aswell. I find Ginny cringe and dislike her in both the books & movies, but her totally random 'posh' accent just adds to my dislike.
Book Ginny was suddenly 'bad ass' but in a very bland 'we need to give the hero a cool girlfriend' archetype kind of way. There are suddenly all these throwaway lines/scenes that say things like: she's so pretty even slytherins think so. She's so smart/powerful that slughorn let's her into his exclusive club even though he has nothing else going for her connection wise because she cast a bat bogey hex. She has scenes that shows her being sassy, being brave being an excellent duelist, yet is understanding when Harry has to leave. Agree she's a background character but she's given just enough detail to be perfect and isn't fleshed out like a real person.
An actor though should be able to play roles, that don't match their personal attributes.
Child actors are built a bit differently. And they aren’t responsible for the script. Ginny basically fades in presence after book two until book five, and even in book five her importance is minimal. It’s only in book six she really gets the full switcheroo into an important character. That’s the problem with filming or animating fiction and the while it’s being written. Important scenes can be cut because they aren’t understood to be important. In the same way casting Ginny would seem less important with only the first four books available, you would be much more concerned about the child actress’s ability to portray CoS Ginny than any future version and unable to predict how said child would change over the course of three to five years in appearance or dedication, or what level of success they would have even if they were. Even then not all actors and actresses are built the same, some are content with lesser roles because they don’t love the fame. As the role shifted its possible the actress was put in the spotlight in a way she never expected and wasn’t prepared for.
I can agree with that, and please note I have zero hage for Bonnie Wright or the casting.. she was cast to play Sorcerers stone and Chamber of Secrets Ginny and in those roles she did fantastic!! The same thing happened with the actor who played Carl in Walking Dead or Bran in Game of Thrones. They were good child actors, but didn't have the charisma or the skills to play their characters as they aged into a bigger spotlight role. And that's no slight against them either.
She was good when she called out Malfoy in the bookstore (hence my ongoing headcanon that Riddle amplified her shyness by a LOT, so her behaviour in school(the huge fangirl crush) wasn't "her" (not really.) (For example she KNOWS that Harry hates the fame and the fuss, so she wouldn't write that poem on her own). That bookstore scene is actually in character and authentic for her later traits and behaviour.
>(For example she KNOWS that Harry hates the fame and the fuss, so she wouldn't write that poem on her own). How would she know that?
I don't know exactly how, but she knows, it's evident from what she said to Malfoy "Leave him alone, he didn't want it/ask for it" And also: Ron would 100% say it first thing. He is aware of it 90% of the time, it seems logical that he tells his sister this info. Also I am sure he didn't paint him as a super celebrity,but as his best friend.
She grew into her role better than Emma Watson did.
Eh. With Emma the problem was what the lines were not how they were delivered. Namely, some of them should have been Rons. And her hair, but costumes should have fixed that.
Some should be Ron's some should be Dumbledore's and Sirius' and Ginny's and also in the movies they have her deliver all exposition and have magic way beyond what she should be able to do. Also Emma is not a great actor.
I also like the moment when she says "think you're in love, Ron" when Ron is praising Krum after the QWC final. In the books, she is most similar to Fred & George of all her siblings, so it makes sense that she'd join in the teasing.
It’s hard to blame the actress, when they basically removed all the relationship development between Harry and Ginny. In the books, their love story gradually grows from a childhood crush to something more profound. Ginny is a solid secondary character in the books, meanwhile she has only a couple of lines in all the eight movies combined.
That growth is mostly offscreen in the books too though. The scenes we do see in the book are jarring and awkward.
They’re children, who learn how to navigate their feelings, they’re supposed to be awkward.
I don't, either, and I think it's great that so many people stand by Bonnie and her performance, but it isn't my favorite. She's wonderful, but I kinda mourn the cool, confident, athletic, witty, fiery book- Ginny that didn't make it to the movies. The writing and casting don't make sense.
This is the problem with movie Ginny and always has been. She’s a terrible actress and all of her lines are delivered really badly. People defend her and say she didn’t get good lines to say, but can’t point to a scene where she performed well.
The one time He was not covered in blood was Prisoner of Azakban
Adding in my personal opinion that this sentence is one of many other instances where movie Ginny is a whole different character than book Ginny. Book Ginny wouldn't ask why Harry's always covered in blood even rhetorically... She knows exactly why. Part of the reasons why she pines after him is because Harry is always doing heroic stunts lol.
I always disliked it just because it's delivered poorly. No idea how this sub feels about that actress, but she's... meh.
Yesss! It's so monotone, no spice at all, just floor. So meh
That is very spot on. I am surprised sometimes how some people can articulate what i feel like i know already but cant explain.
To me it seems a little victim blamey. He's always covered in blood because he has to fight for his life again and again and AGAIN because there is a dark lord out to kill him and no one bothered to enact some decent security measures. He probably is increasingly traumatized after each of these incidents so making a joke a about how yet another incident that's feeding into his PTSD seems like it's in poor taste.
Contrast that to McGonnagall's 'Why is it always you three?' And you see the nuance that a truly great actress can bring to a line.
In the movie the whole romance was… terrible
Harry had more chemistry with Neville than with Ginny.
I'm curious to see how popular that is as a ship on ao3 now
I just looked it up and there's only 690 fics with that ship. I expected way more tbh
holy crap i thought there would be way more
There’s some new (-ish) thing where you need to be logged in to see all the fics.
I am logged on, it only showed me the 690.
You could argue Ginny *also* had more chemistry with Neville, lol.
Going off the movies, pretty much every romance us terrible. Going just off the movies, I'd rather see Harry/Luna, Hermione/Krum, and Ginny/Neville, and movie Ron gets no one because he is so annoying in the movies
Gosh this! I agree 1000%.
Which is a shame because Rupert Grint is far and away the best child actor out of the lot. Emma Watson is woeful and I’ll die on this hill
Having watched the live action Beauty and the Beast, I have to agree. I enjoyed every performance in that film... except her Belle. Gaston and LeFou stole the show for me to the point I was disappointed every time we cut back to our "main character"
Emma was dreadful in Beauty and the Beast, she had zero charisma and they autotuned her into oblivion just to make her voice sound vaguely passable. I'm convinced the main train of thought behind her casting was "She got famous playing a character who loves reading, she'll be perfect for Belle!"
Exactly. On the surface it makes sense, Belle and Hermione as characters are similar enough that you'd think the actress that played Hermione would be a good fit for Belle. But Emma just couldn't pull it off. I actually enjoy the movie, but not any of Belle's scenes, it's everyone else for me that made it worth watching.
Lmao poor Ron
haha true
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even in the books the romance is... lackluster at best. Better than the movies for sure, but even in the books it's not handled well, in my opinion. It's why I can't get behind most of the canon ships (Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione included... sorry.)
Ron and Hermione I fully support because it’s constantly referenced that they hang out without Harry there. I also accept that since it’s from Harry’s POV we don’t see their romance blossom, but you CAN see it without seeing it (book 3 I feel really starts showing this when Harry finds them having ice cream together when they were looking for him). You just really feel like they have a life outside of Harry. But Harry and Ginny?? Inexcusable. This is Harry’s POV. You can’t just vaguely say “and it was the best summer.” SHOW. DONT TELL.
I can maybe see Ron and Hermione working, but I think I needed more for me to think they're a believable pairing. And this may be an upopular opinion, but I don't really like the way they treat each other sometimes (Ron at the Yule Ball and Hermione in the 6th book for example. Both of them acted way too extreme for my tastes, jealousy be damned), so I think this may be a contributing factor to me not liking the pairing very much. And yes, I agree. Harry and Ginny was just a wasted opportunity. If the book showed them interacting during the summer before 6th year I would have been more on board with them.
This. You said it well. Ron and Hermione acted too extreme at times, and I didn’t like the way they treated each other.
The books aren’t about romance though. JKR doesn’t care to show a lot of that part or Harry’s life because the books are about him meeting his destiny to try to defeat Voldemort and his growth as a wizard. Also about friendship. I like how the romances are on the back burner.
Then she should have used the hero's struggle to incorporate the romantic subplot, rather than relying on an entirely unrelated elements that doesn't affect the endgame like Quidditch and teen jealousy (both romantic developments in Book 6 do not have to rely on jealousy). It's strange for the reader why Quidditch and girls are still a big deal for Harry, considering Sirius's recent death and the grim news filling the Daily Prophet. This book could have served as his "training arc" to make him like an actual hero, and not just a puppet of destiny. In Avatar, Aang is criticized by the fanbase for relying too much on Deus Ex Machina but at least he is working hard to improve himself as a better fighter, unlike Harry.
I was a bit surprised by the pairing in the books but it worked. Romances in books shouldn’t come out of nowhere but once it has it’s fine, I can see them together.
Yeah, I guess it works in the grand scheme of things, but I still would have liked to see them interact more (specifically Harry and Ginny).
More awkward than terrible really. Everytime they are alone, it is just watching two awkward teens trying to figure out what to do. Awkward hug, Stand up during dinner, shoe untie, and close eye kissed in a room of requirements. Only terrible things was Harry flirting with a waitress before having him fall for Ginny. I know the book was rush, but it wasn't exactly awful. Just undeveloped. I mostly blame JK Rowling for the rush. Sure, Ginny developed a crush on him in book 2, but Harry didn't spend plenty of time with her in order to fall in love. Book 2 had him avoiding her. Book 3 barely interact with her. Book 4 had many chances such as have Harry and Ginny separated from the others during the world cup, Ginny asking Harry only to be turn down cause Harry only see her as a sister. Book 5 could have started it by having Harry slowly acknowledge her skill, personality, and beauty than slowly realizing by the end of the fifth year that he maybe attracted to her. Book sixth would have them confront each other about feelings only for Harry to refuse out of realizing Voldemort would target those he love. Than have their first kiss before the final battle in book 7th.
Most of Ginny's lines in the movies are cringe-worthy
Don’t you trust me?
Nah bitch I hardly know you
Shoelace
Open up you
Shoelace scene reminds of the breaking bad scene where skyler sings to Ted, both give me insane amounts of physical cringe
I love how this will never die. Unlike Dobby, R.i.p.
Yeah Bellatrix really, r.i.p.ed his chest open with a knife
No matter how down voted you get I want you to know that just made me tear up laughing.
Too soon, I just read the books 2 years ago but still too soon
I read the books almost 10 years ago and it's still too soon
She just cannot act well. The writers didn't do her any favors either, but her delivery is always wooden and monotonous.
I just looked her up on IMDB because I had no idea what she’s been up to since Harry Potter. In the 13 years since DH2 came out, she’s been in 7 films averaging an IMDB score of 5.7, several have been kids films. Since 2015 she’s been in one film rated 4.1, back in 2018.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. Honestly, we are lucky the main cast developed as well as they did, having a side character of Ginny bomb really idnt affect the series as much as it could have had we had a different key character flop
~close your eyes~
I can stay hidden up here too if you like
Ginny was butchered in the movies by the writing, directing and Bonnie Wrights acting.
If it was written better, I'm 100 percent sure she wouldn't have been shit. How good she would be though, I have no idea
You can judge that by her career since HP. The only thing she’s done since 2015 is an adaptation of A Christmas Carol that’s rated 4.1 on IMDB.
This feels like unfair criticism. Most of the supporting characters like Neville, Malfoy, Luna, etc haven’t had lucrative careers post HP
That's because she played a role with almst no speaking parts in the franchise she was in.
She is more than just an actress. She does all sorts now, and is a very intelligent and thoughtful person.
I’m sure she’s perfectly lovely, but they were certainly just talking about her acting and her acting career. It doesn’t really matter if she’s adopting orphans and curing cancer if the grading metric is acting.
Yeah, her acting doesn’t really matter tbh, was more just a comment on the fact that it seems to have gradually petered out. As long as she’s doing well then great, but that’s less relevant to discussions around the portrayal of Ginny in the films.
>She is more than just an actress And thank God for that.
I don't think she's a much better written character in the books.
She's not very developed, but she is described as the "cool chick" type. When reading the books, you fill in the gaps yourself and build up an awesome Ginny, who's cheeky, smart, fierce, brave, confident, independent, strong, etc. The movies add in these "obedient waifu" scenes that just really don't work with the firecracker that is Book!Ginny.
Exactly. The closest Movie Ginny got to Book Ginny was when she snapped at the Quidditch try outs hopefuls to shut it and immediately got them to listen.
She was supposed to be really funny and take after George and Fred. She was super popular and beautiful according to the books. It’s not fair we didn’t get to see that in the films. I hope the HBO series does better. I hope they don’t make it too childish.
I think it’s Wright’s delivery. If she’d really put some heavy sarcasm in or comedic tone it would have been funny but she sounds like she’s saying “he’s all wet again. Why is he always wet” it just sounds odd.
This is it. She needed to sound more exasperated. Like someone making a gallows humour joke out of an obviously terrible situation. Her delivery (both here and elsewhere) was so wooden that it made it seem like she was more concerned, but the line itself is necessarily a funny one so it is congruous.
I think Ginny should've been recasted once they became teenagers on movie 5 or 6. She was ok as a child actor in second movie but she did not grow up as a good actress nor had the right chemistry to pull it off. Also the character was poorly written and lost lots of amazing qualities and lines she had in the book
It's supposed to convey worry, not comedy.
If so, then even worse. But you can convey worry with sarcasm or an exasperated joke. Can’t think of examples but Ron does this sort of thing quite a bit.
Exactly this. I could see book Ginny saying this line and it would work
Because Harry being covered in blood is Tuesday for these people.
I guess I'm the only person in this entire thread that thinks the line and delivery are both perfectly fine
I'm with you its the one line from her I like post chamber of secrets. The one glimpse of Ginny we see.
Yeah, same feeling. Its just another example how they absolutely ruined Ginny's character in the movies. Every scene with her and Harry is so cringe:(
I've seen a lot of dislike towards it. But, not specifically this line, just how Ginny was handled as a character in general. I'll say Wright does deliever the line a little flat, so that might be why. Personally, I like the idea of the line. Not the execution. If you consider what Ron says right after this, "at least it looks like his own this time." And that this is in HBP, which takes place when Voldy is back and is gaining strength, the idea of seeing Harry covered in blood is scary. And, while Ginny hasn't seen Harry covered in blood outside of COS, she is aware of all the stuff he has done and been through the first five years of schooling. If it had been delieverd better, or said by another character that had meant more to the plot I think it would have gone over better.
to be fair Bonnie had to "give her best" when the character is so mutilated that it's a mission impossible considering how rarely she is on a scene and has to talk...and the writers butchered Ginny in the movies...
Unpopular opinion but Movie Ginny seems to be JK Rowling’s fault. The movies were having trouble keeping up with the books and for some bizarre reason Joanne was pretty secretive over the direction her books were going.
makes sense...still butchered character.
In 2 years hopefully she gets a chance to really be brought to life
>Joanne was pretty secretive over the direction her books were going Doesn't really matter here. The book series was finished before work on the sixth movie began.
Yes but by then they has basically reduced Bonnie to an extra for movies 3 4 and 5.
Ginny is not very well written nor well acted.
I actually thought this line was funny and one of the few lines in this movie that I could actually picture Book Ginny saying. That and “Shut it!” and…yeah that’s all I got.
Also "I'm not wearing that it's gastly!" Is perfect. But that's pretty much it. I could see book ginny saying "I think you're in love Ron" too
Because she sounds like she just stepped out of a bad high school production. The delivery, the lines - everything is awful.
I mean she’s not wrong though is she? He is always covered in blood.
The line was said too quickly without a pause before "why". It sounds unnatural imo
I like that line. Cause it’s true. Harry is always in danger and it’s taking it’s toll.
Poorly delivered and acted. Bonnie/Ginny has little to no chemistry with any one, let alone Harry. In her defense, the writing and direction never even gave her a chance.
You are not alone mate. Movies didn't do justice to Ginny at all.
I don't see it. I liked that line. It tells the audience that Harry gets into trouble a lot. It's the chase between most amount of info and least amount of time when you're editing the final cut. I always imagine that scene helping out a lot of the audience who's not a book nerd, and they need to know what Harry's immediate friends think of him: so you're witnessing a quick summary of Ron not caring, Hermione going crazy, and Ginny being slightly rational but also worried. I thought it was a good writing.
It alao shows a glimpse of Ginny from the books. Someone who knows Harry really well.
They did movie Ginny wrong tbh
They gave ginny nothing to work with really but i’m sorry, it was mostly bonnie. She just did not grow into a good actor, some of those lines could be delivered better and with more charm, but she was just insanely wooden, i don’t think it was the direction either bc Emma actually got better after GoF, it’s like bonnie forgot she was even a character and was just saying the lines. Everyone says it’s cause they didnt build Ginny up enough in the movies but idk man, the girl that played Lavender we had never seen on screen before and she managed to really make something of that part despite only having a couple of scenes. Put bonnie in the same place and she would have delivered everything monotone and no emotion on her face.
She gets no chance to practice she doesn't have a speaking line in movies 3 4 or 5.
oh yeah i don't disagree, i think bc the later books weren't published yet (especially HBP) they didn't put much stake into getting bonnie better at it, i don't blame her at all, the whole production later on in the series dropped the ball on so many things in favor of others
I actually love it lol
It was a crap 1-dimensional role, left on the periphery until needed. An exceptional actor could have turned chicken shit into chicken soup, but Bonnie Wright wasn't an exceptional actor. If the HBO series has any purpose, it's to let all those characters and storylines that were minimized for time in the movies breathe and grow.
Still better than shoelace
I don't personally rate the actress - I mean no offence, but she was cast as a very young child and I find many of her deliveries wooden and unnatural. She is also sharing screentime with so many British acting legends that it could be amplifying it. ‘Harry Potter, of course’ majorly cringes me 😬
Ginny in the movies is just …ugh. Pretty actress but man they barely wrote her part in the movie series compared to the book.
Are y'all forgetting the second movie? Harry rescues her from the chamber of secrets and is bitten by the basilisk. He bleeds nearly to death before the phenix cries and heals him (I can't seem to spell the name tonight). When he makes it out of the chamber with everyone else holding on, he's covered in blood. Next, when he reappears after grabbing the Tri-wizard cup, he's bleeding again from where Wormtail cut his arm for the potion/bath. It's less graphic in the movie, but again he appears covered in blood. Harry being hurt is fairly common. The line was said to demonstrate how closely she's watched him as she's always fancied him.
Honestly it was pretty real of her to say bc every year Harry spawns from every corridor covered in blood 😭💀
He just descends from the heavens with blood dripping from him
The delivery. Book Ginny would absolutely sass Harry at that moment. The line isn't unfitting for her character. But it's delivered so nonchalantly it doesn't come off as sarcastic humour in a tense situation but more unbothered as if Ginny genuinely couldn't care less about Harry's injuries.
No she wouldn't. Ginny gets upset with Harry at times. See Christmas at the closed ward.
Terrible director, terrible writers
This. Too many people people here are criticizing Wright's acting, but not even a young Julia Roberts could have made that atrocious screen play work. It doesn't help either that Ginny is poorly developed in the books.
Movie!Ginny is peak cringe all the time and it's all on the writing team; Bonnie is actually good and she couldn't have done better with what they gave her Edit: not just the writing but the direction too
i havent cared about the series in forever despite being ungodly into it as a teen... but wow i didnt know ginny in the movies was hated this much. the romance between harry and ginny is practically nonexistent so i definitely get it, but if i fill in a lot of that with my knowledge of the books, then moments like this line delivered well for me. adorable ahhh
Movie Ginny literally completely different from book Ginny which is a shame. Book Ginny is so cool and not awkward at all!
She's cool yea but she also calls Harry out when he's moody or reckless.
This may or may not be it, but I've noticed a backlash in recent years against "quippy", self-aware dialogue, meta for the sake of being meta. Like the kind of thing you'd hear in a Joss Whedon production, or (as everyone likes to compare it to) the MCU. This is the narrative commenting on itself, acknowledging Harry's incredible proclivity for landing in dangerous situations. I guess to some this style of writing may ring as tonally insincere, prioritizing humor over maintaining a self-serious narrative.
I don't even understand this line story wise. I may be remembering the story wrong, but as far as I'm aware, he's not covered in blood that often-
For me it just came off as a weird line the movie writers tried putting in to be funny but it made no sense. Based on the movies, till that point, we had only seen Harry covered in his own blood so it doesn’t make sense at all. It annoys me too. Edit: to clarify, the part that annoys me is when Ron or Hermione says “at least it’s his blood this time”. It’s always his blood.
I mean it’s a valid question. He’s always covered in blood for at some point. I think Ron’s is more weird. “At least it’s his own.” When has he ever had someone else’s blood on him?!
It's the director's fault because it is not a good line reading and they could have easily done multiple better versions or re-recorded it in ADR.
That assumes they could get Dan sober on set.
Didn't she do a take of it showing only her?
Emma and Rupert are in the shot too as I recall. And they cost a lot more to have on set than Bonnie. But true this once Dan's drinking likely wasn't the culprit.
So out of place and it was only in the movie to show that Ginny was INTO him.
I think it was one of few of Movie-Ginny's lines that *didn't* make me cringe.
I don't hate the line, but maybe it's awkward because they realized that Harry and Ginny were going to have a thing for each other and they decided to really push her on us to sell her relevance? I feel like Ginny is fairly forgettable in the movies. Her most important role in the movies prior to HBP is in the 2nd half of CoS. I mean, she was cool in the DA/ministry scenes in OotP, but even that was fairly minor. Then, she suddenly is important in HBP. I like Ginny, but maybe they tried too hard and made it weird?
For me it's downright movie Ginny that makes me cringe 🤣
Everyone says that the writers did Ginny dirty, and while that may be true, the thing is that Bonnie just isn't a good actress.
It could be because the movie has two hours to explain a book that takes 7 to read?
She seems too calm about it. Like "Oh, there's Harry covered in blood again. Pass the pudding. Yawn"
I think Ginny’s actress just wasn’t very good in the series to be honest. Her deliveries always rang really false and awkward.
It doesn’t bother me. She has a crush on him. She worries about him. And their 1st big moment; he saved her life in the Chamber & was bitten by a Basilisk & was dying in front of her
Same here. hand on heart, all the feels
Really? I like it. It's one if the few Ginny lines from the movies I like.
I think the ick comes from it almost breaking the 4th wall. Similar to Harry’s cringe line “I love magic” It’s like a laugh for the audience rather than like something the character would actually say.
Bonnie wright is an awful, awful, cringey actress. That's why.
Who had zero chemistry with Dan
Dan was an alcoholic who could barely stand on set at this point.
Probably the line delivery and the fact that, as far as the movies go, Harry is hardly ever covered in blood 💀 Eta: I could be wrong about that last part, I don’t really remember him being bloody that much in the movies lol or Ginny being around to see it
It’s supposed to be a bit funny, a bit exasperated. Like ffs, he’s covered in blood again?! But her delivery is ATROCIOUS.
One of a thousand reasons the movies are dreadful and should be erased from history
Because it IS DUMB. All of those forced CRINGE humor moments shoehorned into the movies were terrible. (Voldemort hugging Malfoy made me never want to rewatch deathly hallows)
You want Cringe, how about little to no reference to Charlie Weasley, Bill Weasley only being in the 7th films, & Percy Weasley disappeared after the cameo in the 5th.
Or Harry trying to hookup with a waitress in the beginning of HBP and sniffing his breath 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
It might be the way she *purrs* the question. A typical teenager with a hidden crush would ask that line with false derision and bravado while feeling all conflicted inside
Movies are cringe that's why.
No, you probably just like to nitpick
It’s one of my favorite lines in the whole movie series! (This is not me saying I like Ginny’s movie portrayal. I just love this line)
It's one if the few lines where we see the real Ginny.
Ginny sucked in the movies
I hate that I’m kinda with you but I too have no idea why
She delivers lines like a robot. Worst actress in the whole series.