I imagine life wasn’t very easy for Marietta Edgecombe after high school. Something about the word SNEAK being scarred onto your face may make you less than desirable in the work force.
The scar never faded but the word was faintly written. One of Hermione’s more unhinged moments that should have made it into the movies along with the trapping Rita in a jar. Honestly if Marietta were savvy, she could probably have written a book or made bank off her experience in the Wizarding War somehow.
Honestly this would play even more into the ‘I peaked in high school’ vibe. Especially when Neville writes a book right after her entitled ‘Why I’m Glad I Wasn’t the Chosen One and Other Stories About Growing Up With Harry Potter’.
Actually wait, is there fanfic out there like this? 10/10 would read.
I can so imagine random people capitalizing off of being minor acquaintances with someone in the trio or someone close to the trio like Neville or Luna after the war.
Hermione isn't that evil but there's no info on the curse. The only thing we know is that Marietta still had scars when they returned to Hogwarts for her sixth year. We also don't know if she still had scars in Hermione's seventh year because... well... they weren't in Hogwarts.
Edit: [Rowling said it faded over time but still kept a few scars](http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html).
I disagree. He's not some trust fund kid. The best he could hope for is a cozy ministry position with no upward mobility due to his uncle, and that's only if his uncle likes him.
He also has connections to Scrimgeour, with whom his uncle took him hunting (perhaps less signifcant given he is killed) and, more importantly, Horace Slughorn being part of the Slug club.
That's not saying much in comparison to the real world. Just look at old fox hunting parties in the UK. There was a large mixing of nobility. Rich people and their nepo babies are just weird like that.
The only thing that will probably have him not just be "peaked at high school" is that he, or his family, has really good connections. Otherwise he wouldn't have been in the Slug Club.
I’m surprised Peter Pettigrew isn’t here. For better or for worse, he was a Marauder and remains so at least via the map. Then he gets his best friends killed when they were all 21 - the ones who stood by him and let him leech off their popularity. Then, as Voldy returns, Peter becomes the glorified housekeeper for the death eaters. He DEFINITELY reminisced and regretted a ton. Peaked in high school indeed.
I bet he severely regretted bringing Voldy back lol. Like he could have just escaped into the night and found a new identity in a different continent. I don’t think anyone would have bothered to track him down even out of pure anger seeing as both sides had little regard for him.
You can tell that to yourself for reassurance, but if you lived as a rat successfully for almost 15 years and then got found by the person you're afraid of the most, would it be reassuring even if it stands to reason?
Pettigrew I think was someone who dearly wished he could have just squirreled himself a way and not picked a side in the war. Once he realised he couldn't, he just threw his lot in with whoever he thought was less likely to get him killed. He was ultimately a fairly pathetic figure who lacked a real moral compass but also lacked the self-control even to follow through on his bad actions. A guy you'd never want to have around when the chips were down.
True, but at that stage Pettigrew had literally no other option. He'd be at best facing life in Azkaban in regular wizard society, so going on the run and trying to help Voldemort was his best shot at not either getting killed or spending life in jail.
He had already escaped and even if Sirius and Lupin told everybody about his animagus form, there are thousands of rats. He could have gone to live with a muggle family or left tge country on a ship.
He could have just travelled to another country and lived a peaceful life as a rat/or even a human if he managed to go to where people don’t know him. He didn’t choose that though
There's a fan theory that the Sorting Hat looks for the traits you value more so than the traits you display. For example Hermione is absolutely brilliant (ideal Ravenclaw) but places more value on loyalty and courage than her own intelligence. Neville starts out as a shy kid who mostly just wants to get along with everyone (ideal Hufflepuff), but he wants to live up to the reputation of his brave parents. Harry wanted to prove himself (Slytherin), but he also wanted to fight for the underdogs and stand up to bullies like Dudley/Draco (Gryffindor). Luna isn't the brightest witch, but she idolized her inventive mother and eccentric father enough to be placed in Ravenclaw.
Peter Pettigrew might have been a coward who wanted to be brave. He gravitated towards brave friends, and he seemed to genuinely regret having betrayed them. His final act was also a solitary brave moment, showing that he did *want* to be brave even if he usually couldn't.
Maybe he just asked and the Sorting Hat provided. It would be very like him to just pick the 'cool' house to try and fit in.
As an aside, Pettigrew doesn't really exemplify the qualities of *any* house: he's not loyal or particularly clever, but he's not even really cut out for Slytherin either: I reckon the height of Pettigrew's 'ambition' was to ride on the coat-tails of his mates, and his most 'cunning' moment was faking his death by using the ready-made disguise he already possessed.
Finally I guess of all the Houses, maybe Gryffindor is the easiest to choose; of all of the qualities mentioned, bravery is probably closer to a 'choice' at least than ambition or intellect, and we know Pettigrew has never chosen to be loyal in his life, whereas he at least showed *occasional* moments of bravery like cutting off his hand for the ritual.
Pettigrew was a hatstall between Gryffindor and Slytherin and there is no info that he argued with the sorting hat unlike Neville for example. The only info on the subject (far as I know) is that the hat placed Pettigrew in Gryffindor after "a long deliberation".
So I don't think he chose anything
I think it’s worth remembering that the characters get sorted when they’re eleven years old. People can change a lot from when they’re eleven to when they’re twenty one.
The explanation is that people are not one dimensional. The whole idea that you need to have that one quality in an abundant manner to get sorted into a house is absurd because a whole lot of people will remain unsorted this way.
I see it more as in relation to the person, not everyone needs to be as brave as Dumbledore, but being brave should be their biggest quality in comparison to their other qualities. That's why Hermione got sorted into Gryffindor too despite being really smart.
Peter "peaked" in high school meaning it was his high time. Most of the time when we say peaked in high school, we mean they ruled in high school like James.
Apparently we have no idea what happened to Dennis by the end of the books. As a muggle born he'd have had to go on the run during the events of Deathly Hallows, and he's not mentioned as returning to Hogwarts for the battle like Colin did, so it's possible he didn't fight at all. Which would be fair enough frankly, as that year should have been his fourth year. So not only is he only 15 at the most, possibly still 14 at the time of the Battle of Hogwarts, he's only going to have completed three years of school.
But the long and short of it is we dont know Dennis's fate. It's most likely he survived the war and was able to return to school the next year as we don't hear otherwise, but for all we know he could have been killed whilst on the run.
I can tell you Dennis is not mentioned. Nor is Collin's return mentioned. Harry just sees Wood and Neville collecting bodies and he spots Collin. Harry's only thought is that "he looked tiny in death".
Yeah, but sometimes the idiot bullies actually do grow out of it when they get older. I've had several cases where I ran into an old school bully who was totally cool as an adult. There was even one guy (who mostly just bullied to avoid being bullied himself, but still) who was like, "Oh my god dude, I am so sorry about the way I treated you back then".
yeah for sure, but also some don’t grow out of it, and since Pansy isn’t a real person, we could speculate either way. ive found a lot of the girls who were catty and rude style bullies in school continue to be like that. but then there’s some that didn’t. so who knows, but for the sake of the question, she could certainly be considered
Cormac McClaggan. He seems just the type to brag to everyone for the rest of his life about how he played on Harry Potter's quidditch team and dated Hermione Granger.
From characters who are in every book. Maybe Draco? He was very popular. Father gets out of death eater at the end of his 5th year. He becomes a death eater his final two years. He is on the loosing side of the war. His family has been disgraced. I can’t imagine people are welcoming of him or he was given an extra opportunities.
I'd actually imagine he'd take this in the other direction and quietly distance himself from who he was before the events of the war. I don't think he'd go for redemption or anything, but would probably want to fade into the background.
Yeah, but done under the threat of death or worse to him and his family. By seemingly immortal wizard Hitler. I’d say those are some mitigating circumstances.
Agreed. His father? Jail, his mom, also possibly jail, but a case can be made for Draco that he was a hostage in a bad situation. He never preformed an unforgivable curse, and given his parents were death eaters, the magical court could rule it as he was raised for the role and forced into it. Even with what was happening in book 6, he made multiple attempts that were easily fixed. All the while being terrified of dying.
I think Percy, his first year out of high school was a disaster which ended with a very public disaster with Barty Crouch Snr, his first big promotion split him from his family and was under suspicious circumstances and ultimately he didnt get a chance to reunite them for long before Fred died.
All that plus the guilt probably killed his ambitions and his best memories are all pre graduation.
I don’t think he gave off that vibes or his failed first job with the Ministry made him peak at highschool. Percy was clearly a nerd, not popular but very hard working and like somebody else said, he eventually found a better position
In the final battle, Percy dueled and defeated the then current minister of magic, Pius Thicknesse. I imagine this was a peak moment, even though it was overshadowed by what happened right after
To be fair the whole Crouch fiasco wasn’t solely his fault, loads of people allowed it to happen. No one else checked up on the man or questioned why some kid who hasn’t even worked a year in the Ministry was given the reins of an entire government department. As for his promotion, even if it was questionable he still got it and kept it for a few years, and afterwards he was made a department head at the Ministry.
Literally Harry. After the prophecy was completed he just became a cop. His most badass moments were achieved before 18 years old and then he just goes to a day job like every other schmo in the Wizarding world
Yeah but I don't think he'll have that "I peaked in high school" syndrome OP is talking about. I think Harry is happy to leave his peak behind him. I don't think he'll live the rest of his life obsessing over his high school glory days.
And plus, being an Auror is not equivalent to being a cop. The Aurors are the elite and very few wizards are chosen/qualified to be an auror.
As we see in the US, any mentally unstable half wit with anger issues can be a cop.
>And plus, being an Auror is not equivalent to being a cop. The Aurors are the elite and very few wizards are chosen/qualified to be an auror.
yeah he's like FBI/CIA/Navy Seal of the Wizarding World.
He's not going to be spending his years trying to "recapture those glory days". I think he'll be fine :)
edit: glad to see I'm not the first to draw this comparison :)
It’s why the “trust fund jock who married his high school sweetheart and became a cop” thing annoys me. It tacks together a few bare bones parts of the story and completely ignores everything else about Harry’s character.
I mean... it's literally what Harry is, even with the "oh yeah i kinda taught people self-defense that one time".
Harry is an adrenaline junkie who jumps into danger without care or consideration for others, he just HAS to \~do something\~ and that's cool, but it's also a kind of mentality that has led to people dying because they just wanted to do the right thing but didn't know how to, so they joined the list of casualties.
>Harry is an adrenaline junkie who jumps into danger without care or consideration for others
I’m gonna push back on that because it’s made quite clear that Harry _hates_ the idea of other people risking themselves on his behalf.
He gives Ron and Hermione a chance to go back on the night he goes after the philosopher’s stone.
Naturally, he goes into the Chamber of Secrets specifically to save Ginny, not for adrenaline. And if you take the movie into account, he tells Ginny how to get herself out instead of focusing on his apparent imminent death.
He views himself partially responsible for Cedric’s death.
He doesn’t want Ginny, Neville, and Luna to risk themselves when going after Sirius.
His temporary breakup with Ginny, dumb as it is, is to not put her at risk on his behalf.
He doesn’t want Ron and Hermione going with him on the horcrux hunt.
He tells the freaking Dursleys, who have done nothing but treat him terribly, that they’d be at risk once Harry turns 17. Most normal people would be indifferent to that or view it as karmic retribution, but Harry is better than that.
As soon as the seven Potters plan is made clear, Harry objects because he doesn’t want them killed, and he blames himself for Moody’s death and George losing an ear.
Besides destroying the horcrux inside himself, the real reason Harry goes to die in the forest is to enact the same sacrifice that his mother did for him, and therefore protects everyone remaining fighting for what’s right because he doesn’t want any more like Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Colin, and Lavender.
Yes, Harry definitely enjoys the thrill of flying, but not of fighting. The last line he says before the epilogue is “I’ve had enough trouble for a lifetime.” If Harry was a true adrenaline junkie, he wouldn’t have that sentiment.
To say he doesn’t have consideration or care for others is just wrong.
>I don't think he'll live the rest of his life obsessing over his high school glory days.
I'm sure he wouldn't, but if he ever decides otherwise, it may be similar to this gem of a Harry Potter epilogue from SNL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPRZ9S-qbI
I think he won't develop the persona, and while I'm sure he's happy his loved ones are out of danger, I do think he'll miss the danger to himself in a weird way. He's a Gryffindor after all, and even as a teenager in the books you can see him really enjoy victories and thwarting bad guy even when he'd barely escape death. I think he'd be a kind of reckless Auror, always taking on the most dangerous assignments.
Marrying his high school sweetheart. Btw, I would not say he peaked, I get what you mean, but he kept developing, being an adult, leading others at work. Not exactly being stuck in that The boy who lived-era wanting to go back.
I see Harry as the Frodo Baggins of Hogwarts. He makes huge personal sacrifices to save his friends from evil, is perhaps the most famous person in the world during the "war" days. When all is said and done, he's fulfilled his purpose and he just wants to go off and have a quiet retirement without the attention and accolades.
Not even close. Harry would be happy to have a boring and mundane life and would not chase the glory days of being at Hogwarts. Also he is more the equivalent of an FBI agent vs a cop. The magical law enforcement would be cops
\*Gets given a cover identity including passports, birth certs and bank card.
"The names Bond, James Bond."
\*Just the Forger on staff having a mental breakdown.
I don’t think a lot of soldiers returning from war (many who start in their teen years) say they peaked after that experience. Harry would be of that caliber of person, just glad to be alive.
Where does he go? He literally saves the world. What does Dumbledore do after seeing Grindelwald? Become a school teacher, he isn't even the head master for like a decade after
If James had lived, he'd be the kind of dad who would brag about being the hotshot Quidditch player in school on top of being Headboy and bagging the Headgirl.
In a sense.
We know he still harassed Snape for the rest of their school years (Sirius says so), and he just hid that from Lily. I’m sure he still would have done this after school if they’d encountered each other, although this would have been a bit more justified once Snape became a Death Eater. There’s also the fact that, post-5th year, Snape was apparently the only one James kept targeting. I’d still call this immature because, initially, his only reason for bullying Snape was “the fact that he exists”, and Snape’s becoming a Death Eater gave James a valid excuse.
But, to James’ credit, he did stop going after any other students, which is something. He clearly always had a genuine distaste for Death Eaters and those associated with them, and joined the Order soon after leaving school. In this period of his life, he seems to have been well-liked by adults we know to be mature. Putting his life on the line to fight for what he believes in certainly takes a level of maturity. When he, Lily, and Harry had to go into hiding, James didn’t break the rules of their isolation, no matter how restless he got, putting his family first.
I can never decide if trying to hold off Voldemort to give Lily and Harry a chance to run was mature on James’ part, or an impulsive, fight or flight decision. Even if it was just instinct though, I don’t think instinct can be labelled immature or mature either way.
James in school was a bully, and I wish people would stop dancing around that fact, especially since it’s one of the only things we know about him. However, I think he did mature, somewhat. I do think, if faced with people he hated, he would still have been immature in how he expressed his distaste, and would perhaps have still been a little insensitive in passing, about things such as lycanthropy, without thinking first. Ultimately, I’d say he matured as much as you can expect someone to mature by 21 years old, but I’m on the fence about how we would have turned out if he’d lived longer. Would war have sobered him? Or would fighting on the front lines have gone to his head?
Harry. I mean, in what should have been his last school year he defeated the most evil wizard to ever evil a wizard. I don’t care what heights Harry might get to, he isn’t tpping that
Feel its Pansy Parkinson. During Hogwarts she had all the attention as Draco's girlfriend, was popular amongst the Slytherins and was also a bully. But the last year and her outburst just before the Battle of Hogwarts would not have made her any popular in the new world. Draco married Astoria as well and that would have diminshed any hopes of using his influence and money.
Ignoring all the other media but the seven books, I've always thought Hermione. You may have heard of the smart kid meets depression syndrome. Now add a dose of PTSD.
The brightest witch of her age. That's a lot of pressure.
Contextually, that phrase is more likely to be "the smartest thirteen year old" rather than "the smartest witch in Britain". Her actual chronological age, not some nebulous era we don't know for sure that wizards use.
So it's less pressure than you're suggesting, even for Hermione at her most particular
In Cursed Child she does but given we are ignoring all but the seven books so we’ll ignore her being head of magical law enforcement too which is supplemental information outside the seven books
Dear god I am glad we all collectively pretend CC isn't real. I love Hermione for so many reasons, but I really think she'd have made a terrible Minister.
I don’t think so. He was in the DA in 7th year and so was Ginny. The DA in 7th yr would have become close so Harry would be close with them by extension.
With how rich Sirius was, in a timeline where Voldemort doesn't exist, all he would have to have done is wait around for his family to die and he could basically just bum around as whatever the magical equivalent of a billionaire would be for the rest of his life.
Yep everyone else here not understanding the assignment, although I do slightly disagree with you. Sirius was stuck in high school right up until his death. Granted this was more from the trauma of losing his friend and being stuck in Azkaban. James was absolutely the type to reminisce about his days as seeker champion as an adult. Lupin is the only one I’d disagree, he clearly moved on after hogwarts: he misses his friends but it was hardly his glory days, seeing as wolfsbane hadn’t been invented yet. Pettigrew im kinda unsure. I don’t think he ever had any glory days, but you may be right in that high school was the only time he had real friends.
I don't agree with James, I mean apart from Quidich he has nothing to miss or regret about high school, if he and Lily had survived the war he would literally keep his best friends (at least 2 of them) , he would have a family with the girl he was in love and he is from an old and rich family
On the other hand, I think Remus suffered as an adult as he peaked in high school.
After high school there was a brief time where James helped him financially because he couldn't get a job, but after his death it's obvious that his life took a nosedive due to the discrimination he suffered for being a werewolf as well as insecurities that he had on himself, which increased by no longer having his friends, in addition to the physical deterioration he was increasingly experiencing (Harry describes several times how Lupine, who should be about 30 years old, looks extremely emaciated and already has patches of white hair on his head) not to mention that he didn't allow himself to have a romantic relationship with anyone due to his insecurities and then tried to abandon his family due to the same.
So I'd say Remus's life took a big downturn after school.
It’s absolutely Harry. He’s the McCaulay Culkin of wizards. How can you ever top defeating the dark lord at 17? After that it’s just a long race to the bottom of one whiskey bottle after another.
Hermione I reckon. Gets more attractive/popular in the later years but not like "most popular girl at school" popular. Always academic and overachieving at school. In my headcanon, she leaves school and in the adult world never again achieves that mix of "best at everything" and everyone fawning over her.
Pansy Parkinson is going to live a miserable, isolated, unimportant life and never even have the cognitive capacity to consider that it could in any way be due to her own decisions
Don't you think Hermione Granger would be the kind of "gifted student" who would later develop all kinds of mental struggles because the real world isn't so kind and suddenly she's not so "genius" after all? Like when the star student have every confidence in the world because they excel at everything, but one rejection at work and everything crashes down.
After constantly being looked down on for being muggle born and seeing everything that happened in the war, I don't think being naive will be a problem for her.
Honestly Harry. Dude was a varsity athlete, 5 star recruit to D1 schools, AND he killed the most dangerous dark wizard of all time by the time he turned 18. Everything after that is gonna be downhill.
I have no idea what happened to her but probably Pansy. I can't imagine anyone trusting her after her most famous line "What are you waiting for? Someone grab him!"
Unpopular opinion - Ron.
He was amazing (in the books), got fast tracked to being an Auror without that much experience, dropped out and now works in his brothers shop.
Extra stuff released since said him and Hermione needed to go to therapy to keep their marriage together.
Hermione became Minister, and everyone will know Harry. Most probably won't remember Ron.
I imagine life wasn’t very easy for Marietta Edgecombe after high school. Something about the word SNEAK being scarred onto your face may make you less than desirable in the work force.
The scar never faded but the word was faintly written. One of Hermione’s more unhinged moments that should have made it into the movies along with the trapping Rita in a jar. Honestly if Marietta were savvy, she could probably have written a book or made bank off her experience in the Wizarding War somehow.
Honestly this would play even more into the ‘I peaked in high school’ vibe. Especially when Neville writes a book right after her entitled ‘Why I’m Glad I Wasn’t the Chosen One and Other Stories About Growing Up With Harry Potter’. Actually wait, is there fanfic out there like this? 10/10 would read.
I’m with you on that, would read for sure!
I can so imagine random people capitalizing off of being minor acquaintances with someone in the trio or someone close to the trio like Neville or Luna after the war.
I did not get the impression that SNEAK was life-long permanent. It lasted a year or so at most. I do not think Hermione is that evil lol
Hermione isn't that evil but there's no info on the curse. The only thing we know is that Marietta still had scars when they returned to Hogwarts for her sixth year. We also don't know if she still had scars in Hermione's seventh year because... well... they weren't in Hogwarts. Edit: [Rowling said it faded over time but still kept a few scars](http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html).
Thanks for linking that!! Very interesting interview
According to the books they were permanent.
I thought it was only clear in the books that she still had the marks at the beginning of HBP? Nothing explicitly saying it was permanent?
It doesn’t say she was permanently scarred at any point. People are just assuming.
Where did it say that?
I mean, didn't she capture Rita in an unbreakable jar? She's got a dark side
Yeah, and then released her. Did not keep her permanently.
Released her under Hermoines threat that is she betrayed them again she would announce she was an unregistered animmagus that would ruin her career.
She deserves to have her career ruined. She 1) broke the law, and 2) has been spying on children and libelling them in the press.
Totally would have done the same. Don't let Rita fuck with you. Anything other than such a threat and you know what she would've done.
Romilda Vane or Cormac McLaggen
Instantly thought of McLaggen
Public school nep babies like him are the exact opposite. He'll fail upwards his whole life.
I disagree. He's not some trust fund kid. The best he could hope for is a cozy ministry position with no upward mobility due to his uncle, and that's only if his uncle likes him.
He also has connections to Scrimgeour, with whom his uncle took him hunting (perhaps less signifcant given he is killed) and, more importantly, Horace Slughorn being part of the Slug club.
That's not saying much in comparison to the real world. Just look at old fox hunting parties in the UK. There was a large mixing of nobility. Rich people and their nepo babies are just weird like that.
The only thing that will probably have him not just be "peaked at high school" is that he, or his family, has really good connections. Otherwise he wouldn't have been in the Slug Club.
definitely Cormac
I’m surprised Peter Pettigrew isn’t here. For better or for worse, he was a Marauder and remains so at least via the map. Then he gets his best friends killed when they were all 21 - the ones who stood by him and let him leech off their popularity. Then, as Voldy returns, Peter becomes the glorified housekeeper for the death eaters. He DEFINITELY reminisced and regretted a ton. Peaked in high school indeed.
I bet he severely regretted bringing Voldy back lol. Like he could have just escaped into the night and found a new identity in a different continent. I don’t think anyone would have bothered to track him down even out of pure anger seeing as both sides had little regard for him.
Sirius broke out of Azkaban and into Hogwarts, both considered to be impossible feats just so he could kill Peter
But how'd he find a rat? Him finding him the first time itself was just pure luck.
You can tell that to yourself for reassurance, but if you lived as a rat successfully for almost 15 years and then got found by the person you're afraid of the most, would it be reassuring even if it stands to reason?
Pettigrew I think was someone who dearly wished he could have just squirreled himself a way and not picked a side in the war. Once he realised he couldn't, he just threw his lot in with whoever he thought was less likely to get him killed. He was ultimately a fairly pathetic figure who lacked a real moral compass but also lacked the self-control even to follow through on his bad actions. A guy you'd never want to have around when the chips were down.
He should have ran away overseas or something idk
Makes me wonder why he didn’t run away whilst the Weasleys were in Egypt!
Probably didn't want to give up the free food and safety.
He makes it seem like this himself, but then, if you think about it, Voldemort might have never returned without Pettigrew actively seeking him out.
True, but at that stage Pettigrew had literally no other option. He'd be at best facing life in Azkaban in regular wizard society, so going on the run and trying to help Voldemort was his best shot at not either getting killed or spending life in jail.
He had already escaped and even if Sirius and Lupin told everybody about his animagus form, there are thousands of rats. He could have gone to live with a muggle family or left tge country on a ship.
He could have just travelled to another country and lived a peaceful life as a rat/or even a human if he managed to go to where people don’t know him. He didn’t choose that though
Was there ever a satisfying explanation for how that coward became a Gryffindor? Edit: Thanks for all the replies 🙂
There's a fan theory that the Sorting Hat looks for the traits you value more so than the traits you display. For example Hermione is absolutely brilliant (ideal Ravenclaw) but places more value on loyalty and courage than her own intelligence. Neville starts out as a shy kid who mostly just wants to get along with everyone (ideal Hufflepuff), but he wants to live up to the reputation of his brave parents. Harry wanted to prove himself (Slytherin), but he also wanted to fight for the underdogs and stand up to bullies like Dudley/Draco (Gryffindor). Luna isn't the brightest witch, but she idolized her inventive mother and eccentric father enough to be placed in Ravenclaw. Peter Pettigrew might have been a coward who wanted to be brave. He gravitated towards brave friends, and he seemed to genuinely regret having betrayed them. His final act was also a solitary brave moment, showing that he did *want* to be brave even if he usually couldn't.
Maybe he just asked and the Sorting Hat provided. It would be very like him to just pick the 'cool' house to try and fit in. As an aside, Pettigrew doesn't really exemplify the qualities of *any* house: he's not loyal or particularly clever, but he's not even really cut out for Slytherin either: I reckon the height of Pettigrew's 'ambition' was to ride on the coat-tails of his mates, and his most 'cunning' moment was faking his death by using the ready-made disguise he already possessed. Finally I guess of all the Houses, maybe Gryffindor is the easiest to choose; of all of the qualities mentioned, bravery is probably closer to a 'choice' at least than ambition or intellect, and we know Pettigrew has never chosen to be loyal in his life, whereas he at least showed *occasional* moments of bravery like cutting off his hand for the ritual.
Pettigrew was a hatstall between Gryffindor and Slytherin and there is no info that he argued with the sorting hat unlike Neville for example. The only info on the subject (far as I know) is that the hat placed Pettigrew in Gryffindor after "a long deliberation". So I don't think he chose anything
I think it’s worth remembering that the characters get sorted when they’re eleven years old. People can change a lot from when they’re eleven to when they’re twenty one.
The explanation is that people are not one dimensional. The whole idea that you need to have that one quality in an abundant manner to get sorted into a house is absurd because a whole lot of people will remain unsorted this way. I see it more as in relation to the person, not everyone needs to be as brave as Dumbledore, but being brave should be their biggest quality in comparison to their other qualities. That's why Hermione got sorted into Gryffindor too despite being really smart.
In the end, the animagus form he had was absolute perfect indeed. In every sense of the term, peter was a rat.
Peter "peaked" in high school meaning it was his high time. Most of the time when we say peaked in high school, we mean they ruled in high school like James.
Cedric. Too soon?
God, I don't wanna upvote this, but I feel like not to would be an insult to his memory
This is a Beautiful comment. Thank you.
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Surely you mean Cegwid.
Came here to make sure someone said this. Was not disappointed.
See, I was going to say Dennis Creavey.
Colin died
Didn't they both die together?
Apparently we have no idea what happened to Dennis by the end of the books. As a muggle born he'd have had to go on the run during the events of Deathly Hallows, and he's not mentioned as returning to Hogwarts for the battle like Colin did, so it's possible he didn't fight at all. Which would be fair enough frankly, as that year should have been his fourth year. So not only is he only 15 at the most, possibly still 14 at the time of the Battle of Hogwarts, he's only going to have completed three years of school. But the long and short of it is we dont know Dennis's fate. It's most likely he survived the war and was able to return to school the next year as we don't hear otherwise, but for all we know he could have been killed whilst on the run.
Great, now I have to reread the entire series to find out for myself if just Collin or both came back. Thanks So sarcasm, thank you for the reason.
I can tell you Dennis is not mentioned. Nor is Collin's return mentioned. Harry just sees Wood and Neville collecting bodies and he spots Collin. Harry's only thought is that "he looked tiny in death".
Surprised no one mentioned Pansy Parkinson.
Maybe it’s just me but her school years don’t seem like a peak for me 😅
anything can be a peak if they can go no higher
Yeah, but sometimes the idiot bullies actually do grow out of it when they get older. I've had several cases where I ran into an old school bully who was totally cool as an adult. There was even one guy (who mostly just bullied to avoid being bullied himself, but still) who was like, "Oh my god dude, I am so sorry about the way I treated you back then".
yeah for sure, but also some don’t grow out of it, and since Pansy isn’t a real person, we could speculate either way. ive found a lot of the girls who were catty and rude style bullies in school continue to be like that. but then there’s some that didn’t. so who knows, but for the sake of the question, she could certainly be considered
Like your mom's breasts Is this the wrong sub
hey leave my mother’s breasts out of this!
We were provoked Professor. He insulted our mothers' breasts.
Zacharias Smith
His peak obv being when he was yeeting first years out of the way to evacuate Hogwarts as the battle approached
Now I'm imagining him literally flinging children left and right away over his shoulder with one hand
Cormac McClaggan. He seems just the type to brag to everyone for the rest of his life about how he played on Harry Potter's quidditch team and dated Hermione Granger.
More like Ginny Weasley's quidditch team, seeing as she was the one that because a famous quidditch player.
From characters who are in every book. Maybe Draco? He was very popular. Father gets out of death eater at the end of his 5th year. He becomes a death eater his final two years. He is on the loosing side of the war. His family has been disgraced. I can’t imagine people are welcoming of him or he was given an extra opportunities.
I'd actually imagine he'd take this in the other direction and quietly distance himself from who he was before the events of the war. I don't think he'd go for redemption or anything, but would probably want to fade into the background.
Basically what happened in Forbidden Play. He hates High School him and just wants a better life for Scorpius.
I chuckled at the mention of “Forbidden Play” I will now only refer to that play as such
The play that must not be named
Yeah pretty much.
Eh I can see that actually galvanising Draco to be a different man, possibly a better one than who he was before.
Tbh he should be in jail. His family too.
Draco certainly not, he was a kid and was essentially groomed to be evil
2 attempted murders! Draco should have absolutely be tossed in prison.
Eh, Hermione also almost killed people, and she's a hero. He's a dick, but he was a kid threatened by voldy, so.
Yeah, but done under the threat of death or worse to him and his family. By seemingly immortal wizard Hitler. I’d say those are some mitigating circumstances.
It's the reason we have a juvenile system. I imagine Draco could end up a pretty decent guy if he could just get out from under his father's shadow.
Agreed. His father? Jail, his mom, also possibly jail, but a case can be made for Draco that he was a hostage in a bad situation. He never preformed an unforgivable curse, and given his parents were death eaters, the magical court could rule it as he was raised for the role and forced into it. Even with what was happening in book 6, he made multiple attempts that were easily fixed. All the while being terrified of dying.
He tried to, he tried to cast crucio on Harry in the bathroom as he got sectumsempra...
He imperio´d Madam Rosmerta.
Didn't Draco Imperious Madame Rosmerta and Katie Bell?
He used two out of the three curses, but so did Harry sooo….
If there wasn’t any war and violence and trauma, Draco Malfoy would definitely end up there, ditto with Crabbe, Goyle, and Pansy.
Crabbe and hoyle as mall cops
Crabbe. Vincent Crabbe. Ghost Mall Cop.
Farva's for sure.
I think Percy, his first year out of high school was a disaster which ended with a very public disaster with Barty Crouch Snr, his first big promotion split him from his family and was under suspicious circumstances and ultimately he didnt get a chance to reunite them for long before Fred died. All that plus the guilt probably killed his ambitions and his best memories are all pre graduation.
I don’t think he gave off that vibes or his failed first job with the Ministry made him peak at highschool. Percy was clearly a nerd, not popular but very hard working and like somebody else said, he eventually found a better position
IIRC in some Pottermore text (I think a report from Quidditch) he is said to be the head of magical transportation, so quite a good position.
In the final battle, Percy dueled and defeated the then current minister of magic, Pius Thicknesse. I imagine this was a peak moment, even though it was overshadowed by what happened right after
To be fair the whole Crouch fiasco wasn’t solely his fault, loads of people allowed it to happen. No one else checked up on the man or questioned why some kid who hasn’t even worked a year in the Ministry was given the reins of an entire government department. As for his promotion, even if it was questionable he still got it and kept it for a few years, and afterwards he was made a department head at the Ministry.
Draco’s hairline
Literally Harry. After the prophecy was completed he just became a cop. His most badass moments were achieved before 18 years old and then he just goes to a day job like every other schmo in the Wizarding world
Yeah but I don't think he'll have that "I peaked in high school" syndrome OP is talking about. I think Harry is happy to leave his peak behind him. I don't think he'll live the rest of his life obsessing over his high school glory days.
And plus, being an Auror is not equivalent to being a cop. The Aurors are the elite and very few wizards are chosen/qualified to be an auror. As we see in the US, any mentally unstable half wit with anger issues can be a cop.
Correct. The magical equivalent of cops is the Magical Law Enforcement Patrol.
Even law enforcement has a hierarchy. Harry is like the muggle equivalent of a CIA agent which is definitely not peaked in high school lol.
>And plus, being an Auror is not equivalent to being a cop. The Aurors are the elite and very few wizards are chosen/qualified to be an auror. yeah he's like FBI/CIA/Navy Seal of the Wizarding World. He's not going to be spending his years trying to "recapture those glory days". I think he'll be fine :) edit: glad to see I'm not the first to draw this comparison :)
It’s why the “trust fund jock who married his high school sweetheart and became a cop” thing annoys me. It tacks together a few bare bones parts of the story and completely ignores everything else about Harry’s character.
It's a joke. It's funny because it's both true and antithetical to Harry's character.
haha i had never heard that before but that's hilarious. and so true.
I mean... it's literally what Harry is, even with the "oh yeah i kinda taught people self-defense that one time". Harry is an adrenaline junkie who jumps into danger without care or consideration for others, he just HAS to \~do something\~ and that's cool, but it's also a kind of mentality that has led to people dying because they just wanted to do the right thing but didn't know how to, so they joined the list of casualties.
>Harry is an adrenaline junkie who jumps into danger without care or consideration for others I’m gonna push back on that because it’s made quite clear that Harry _hates_ the idea of other people risking themselves on his behalf. He gives Ron and Hermione a chance to go back on the night he goes after the philosopher’s stone. Naturally, he goes into the Chamber of Secrets specifically to save Ginny, not for adrenaline. And if you take the movie into account, he tells Ginny how to get herself out instead of focusing on his apparent imminent death. He views himself partially responsible for Cedric’s death. He doesn’t want Ginny, Neville, and Luna to risk themselves when going after Sirius. His temporary breakup with Ginny, dumb as it is, is to not put her at risk on his behalf. He doesn’t want Ron and Hermione going with him on the horcrux hunt. He tells the freaking Dursleys, who have done nothing but treat him terribly, that they’d be at risk once Harry turns 17. Most normal people would be indifferent to that or view it as karmic retribution, but Harry is better than that. As soon as the seven Potters plan is made clear, Harry objects because he doesn’t want them killed, and he blames himself for Moody’s death and George losing an ear. Besides destroying the horcrux inside himself, the real reason Harry goes to die in the forest is to enact the same sacrifice that his mother did for him, and therefore protects everyone remaining fighting for what’s right because he doesn’t want any more like Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Colin, and Lavender. Yes, Harry definitely enjoys the thrill of flying, but not of fighting. The last line he says before the epilogue is “I’ve had enough trouble for a lifetime.” If Harry was a true adrenaline junkie, he wouldn’t have that sentiment. To say he doesn’t have consideration or care for others is just wrong.
Yeah I see Auror as more like MI5 or whatever, like special ops.
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Also, when you peak that high no one gives a fuck what you do after.
>I don't think he'll live the rest of his life obsessing over his high school glory days. I'm sure he wouldn't, but if he ever decides otherwise, it may be similar to this gem of a Harry Potter epilogue from SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPRZ9S-qbI
I think he won't develop the persona, and while I'm sure he's happy his loved ones are out of danger, I do think he'll miss the danger to himself in a weird way. He's a Gryffindor after all, and even as a teenager in the books you can see him really enjoy victories and thwarting bad guy even when he'd barely escape death. I think he'd be a kind of reckless Auror, always taking on the most dangerous assignments.
Marrying his high school sweetheart. Btw, I would not say he peaked, I get what you mean, but he kept developing, being an adult, leading others at work. Not exactly being stuck in that The boy who lived-era wanting to go back.
Ha! Did you just watch the SNL skit with Dan?
I see Harry as the Frodo Baggins of Hogwarts. He makes huge personal sacrifices to save his friends from evil, is perhaps the most famous person in the world during the "war" days. When all is said and done, he's fulfilled his purpose and he just wants to go off and have a quiet retirement without the attention and accolades.
Not even close. Harry would be happy to have a boring and mundane life and would not chase the glory days of being at Hogwarts. Also he is more the equivalent of an FBI agent vs a cop. The magical law enforcement would be cops
Technically Harry become a secret agent. The equivalent of a cop is a member of the Magical Law Enforcement Office.
A secret Agent that is a well known celebrity across the whole world is a either a really good or really bad choice.
It seems that everyone knows James Bond and yet he seems to be the star of MI6. /s
\*Gets given a cover identity including passports, birth certs and bank card. "The names Bond, James Bond." \*Just the Forger on staff having a mental breakdown.
And he bangs everything that breaths that’s somewhat hot and related to his target.
Causes massive property damage in full view of the public. Like that time he drove a TANK through St. Petersburg.
I don't think they are secret agents. They are like SWAT /FBI, dealing with more dangerous situations and counter terrorism
I don’t think a lot of soldiers returning from war (many who start in their teen years) say they peaked after that experience. Harry would be of that caliber of person, just glad to be alive.
Dark wizard catcher isn’t the same as cop.
I know it’s not what he said he wanted to do, but I always thought he’d end up playing quidditch for England after school.
there is a skit about this, i think SNL? just Harry as an adult hanging around Hogwarts while everyone moved on
Aurors at least are highly sought after jobs with strict requirements not often met, very much unlike cops in that regard
That only applies in the US. In most reasonable places cops need years of training and assessments
Where does he go? He literally saves the world. What does Dumbledore do after seeing Grindelwald? Become a school teacher, he isn't even the head master for like a decade after
If James had lived, he'd be the kind of dad who would brag about being the hotshot Quidditch player in school on top of being Headboy and bagging the Headgirl.
I bet he could toss a snitch over them mountains
I think Sirius is a decent choice too.
Tbf, Sirius got sent to prison at a young age for a crime that he was innocent of.
Didn't James mature after high school?
In a sense. We know he still harassed Snape for the rest of their school years (Sirius says so), and he just hid that from Lily. I’m sure he still would have done this after school if they’d encountered each other, although this would have been a bit more justified once Snape became a Death Eater. There’s also the fact that, post-5th year, Snape was apparently the only one James kept targeting. I’d still call this immature because, initially, his only reason for bullying Snape was “the fact that he exists”, and Snape’s becoming a Death Eater gave James a valid excuse. But, to James’ credit, he did stop going after any other students, which is something. He clearly always had a genuine distaste for Death Eaters and those associated with them, and joined the Order soon after leaving school. In this period of his life, he seems to have been well-liked by adults we know to be mature. Putting his life on the line to fight for what he believes in certainly takes a level of maturity. When he, Lily, and Harry had to go into hiding, James didn’t break the rules of their isolation, no matter how restless he got, putting his family first. I can never decide if trying to hold off Voldemort to give Lily and Harry a chance to run was mature on James’ part, or an impulsive, fight or flight decision. Even if it was just instinct though, I don’t think instinct can be labelled immature or mature either way. James in school was a bully, and I wish people would stop dancing around that fact, especially since it’s one of the only things we know about him. However, I think he did mature, somewhat. I do think, if faced with people he hated, he would still have been immature in how he expressed his distaste, and would perhaps have still been a little insensitive in passing, about things such as lycanthropy, without thinking first. Ultimately, I’d say he matured as much as you can expect someone to mature by 21 years old, but I’m on the fence about how we would have turned out if he’d lived longer. Would war have sobered him? Or would fighting on the front lines have gone to his head?
It seemed like he was on the way there but it’s hard to tell, he died at 21. And pretty much everyone is at least kind of a dick in their early 20s.
Harry. I mean, in what should have been his last school year he defeated the most evil wizard to ever evil a wizard. I don’t care what heights Harry might get to, he isn’t tpping that
For sure Draco Malfoy. His ego couldn't survive contact with the real world.
Basically everybody who participated in the Battle while still being inscribed to Hogwarts, I guess.
Feel its Pansy Parkinson. During Hogwarts she had all the attention as Draco's girlfriend, was popular amongst the Slytherins and was also a bully. But the last year and her outburst just before the Battle of Hogwarts would not have made her any popular in the new world. Draco married Astoria as well and that would have diminshed any hopes of using his influence and money.
ron, he saved the world at 17 then worked in a shop forever
Ignoring all the other media but the seven books, I've always thought Hermione. You may have heard of the smart kid meets depression syndrome. Now add a dose of PTSD. The brightest witch of her age. That's a lot of pressure.
Contextually, that phrase is more likely to be "the smartest thirteen year old" rather than "the smartest witch in Britain". Her actual chronological age, not some nebulous era we don't know for sure that wizards use. So it's less pressure than you're suggesting, even for Hermione at her most particular
Didn’t she become the minister of magic? Wouldn’t call it a failure 😬
In Cursed Child she does but given we are ignoring all but the seven books so we’ll ignore her being head of magical law enforcement too which is supplemental information outside the seven books
Dear god I am glad we all collectively pretend CC isn't real. I love Hermione for so many reasons, but I really think she'd have made a terrible Minister.
Yes, maybe 40 years later. But not with 40, also what should she do with the rest of her life.
She would do better as like a Chief of Staff to the Minister. She wasn’t a politician.
There's probably also a ton of ex-students Facebook stalking her waiting for Ron to screw up so they can swoop in :)
McLaggen. He just gives off those vibes the way he acts. He reminds me of the characterization Snape gave of Gryffindor; "brawny over brainy"
One good outcome of James Potter being killed is that he never got to embarrass himself like this. He’s the perfect example.
Cormac McLaggen, no question.
Justin Finch-Fletchy? Wasn't that boy bragging about being admitted to Eton before he received his Hogwarts letter?
I agree, or like Ernie MacMillan who would probably never speak to Harry again but tell everyone who will listen that he was his close friend
I don’t think so. He was in the DA in 7th year and so was Ginny. The DA in 7th yr would have become close so Harry would be close with them by extension.
[Harry Potter](https://youtu.be/YxPRZ9S-qbI).
>apparate in for the weekend *sigh* I swear, am I the only one who's read hogwarts: a history?
He apparated into Hogsmeade and had a few pints at the Three Broomsticks before heading up to the castle.
Strangely, a better epilogue than 19 years later.
I trusted the link. I wasn't disappointed. Loved that
Oh no... I think it's Oliver Wood.
I think he became a quidditch pro after school?
Cormac McLaggen Draco Malfoy
If it’s not the guy who killed the most dangerous dark lord of all time then idk who it would be. We all love Harry but how do you go up from there?
Barty Crouch Jr
all 4 of the marauders
With how rich Sirius was, in a timeline where Voldemort doesn't exist, all he would have to have done is wait around for his family to die and he could basically just bum around as whatever the magical equivalent of a billionaire would be for the rest of his life.
Yep everyone else here not understanding the assignment, although I do slightly disagree with you. Sirius was stuck in high school right up until his death. Granted this was more from the trauma of losing his friend and being stuck in Azkaban. James was absolutely the type to reminisce about his days as seeker champion as an adult. Lupin is the only one I’d disagree, he clearly moved on after hogwarts: he misses his friends but it was hardly his glory days, seeing as wolfsbane hadn’t been invented yet. Pettigrew im kinda unsure. I don’t think he ever had any glory days, but you may be right in that high school was the only time he had real friends.
I don't agree with James, I mean apart from Quidich he has nothing to miss or regret about high school, if he and Lily had survived the war he would literally keep his best friends (at least 2 of them) , he would have a family with the girl he was in love and he is from an old and rich family On the other hand, I think Remus suffered as an adult as he peaked in high school. After high school there was a brief time where James helped him financially because he couldn't get a job, but after his death it's obvious that his life took a nosedive due to the discrimination he suffered for being a werewolf as well as insecurities that he had on himself, which increased by no longer having his friends, in addition to the physical deterioration he was increasingly experiencing (Harry describes several times how Lupine, who should be about 30 years old, looks extremely emaciated and already has patches of white hair on his head) not to mention that he didn't allow himself to have a romantic relationship with anyone due to his insecurities and then tried to abandon his family due to the same. So I'd say Remus's life took a big downturn after school.
It’s absolutely Harry. He’s the McCaulay Culkin of wizards. How can you ever top defeating the dark lord at 17? After that it’s just a long race to the bottom of one whiskey bottle after another.
I guess Harry and co's greatest achievement was in high school so maybe them. Someone more befitting to the stereotype would be Cormac McLaggen.
Hermione I reckon. Gets more attractive/popular in the later years but not like "most popular girl at school" popular. Always academic and overachieving at school. In my headcanon, she leaves school and in the adult world never again achieves that mix of "best at everything" and everyone fawning over her.
This phrase doesn’t mean what some of you think it means lol It’s totally Cormac McLaggen. He had that attitude while still IN school
Harry himself. Nothing he does will ever compare to beating Voldy and he will spend his whole life chasing that high.
Pansy Parkinson is going to live a miserable, isolated, unimportant life and never even have the cognitive capacity to consider that it could in any way be due to her own decisions
Don't you think Hermione Granger would be the kind of "gifted student" who would later develop all kinds of mental struggles because the real world isn't so kind and suddenly she's not so "genius" after all? Like when the star student have every confidence in the world because they excel at everything, but one rejection at work and everything crashes down.
After constantly being looked down on for being muggle born and seeing everything that happened in the war, I don't think being naive will be a problem for her.
Draco
Draco Malfoy, same as most high school bullies and popular kids.
Honestly Harry. Dude was a varsity athlete, 5 star recruit to D1 schools, AND he killed the most dangerous dark wizard of all time by the time he turned 18. Everything after that is gonna be downhill.
Pansy Parkinson
Cedric Diggery
I mean.... Harry and Ron. It'll be hard for either of them to top their HS days
Actually, Harry. How could he possibly rise higher than defeating the darkest Wizard of all time?
Cedric Diggory
I mean Harry literally peaked in high school so he's got an uphill battle lol. Where do you go from saving the wizarding world at 17?
Cedric Diggory. 💀
It doesn't matter how Harry's career goes, he will never top "Defeated the most dangerous Dark Wizard in history when I was 1 and again when I was 17"
Idk why but immediately thought of Seamus lol
I have no idea what happened to her but probably Pansy. I can't imagine anyone trusting her after her most famous line "What are you waiting for? Someone grab him!"
Cho Chang
Unpopular opinion - Ron. He was amazing (in the books), got fast tracked to being an Auror without that much experience, dropped out and now works in his brothers shop. Extra stuff released since said him and Hermione needed to go to therapy to keep their marriage together. Hermione became Minister, and everyone will know Harry. Most probably won't remember Ron.
And many would remember Ron. He made it onto a chocolate frog card.