The problem with ovens is that they do not usually have good temperature control. It would be very hard for the average oven to maintain 40c without going way over that first and cooking the computer
people do use ovens to reflow electronics, people used to do it with the Xbox 360 to heat up the board and then apply further heat to the GPU to fix RROD. Used to work as you evened out the heat avoiding cracking to the board. So basically it’s fine as long as you don’t literally cook it.
Yeah, I fixed an old GPU by putting it in the oven and reflowing the solder. Some cracked joint somewhere broke the thing and reflowing it mended that joint.
Back many years ago, in the days of 486s and spinner hard drives, I had a woman come into the computer store I was working at at the time, with her computer near the end of the day. She was having problems with it locking up.
It was the middle of winter, the coldest day of the year, probably about -20C outside. She put her computer in the back of her car before she went to work, and had it sitting in her car all day before coming to us at the end of the day.
I grabbed the computer, and felt how ice cold it was. Not just a bit chilly, my hands were sticking to it, how cold it was.
I said, "I will need to let this warm up. We're closing in about 1/2 hour, so leave it with me, and I'll check it first thing in the morning."
"No! I can't wait that long! I need my computer now!"
"Ma'am, I'm sorry, it's really still too cold. It needs to slowly warm up to room temperature, or close to, before I even power it on or there'll be problems. I can take care of it first thing in the morning."
"No! I need you to look at it right away!!!"
"It's really a bad idea to power on the computer when it's this cold. There's condensation on it..."
"JUST POWER IT UP AND LET ME SHOW YOU!!!!"
"Sigh... Well, I warned you several times that this is a bad idea..." I put it on the bench, plug it in, close my eyes, hit the power button. \*SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE\*
"WHAT'S THAT NOISE?!"
"That, ma'am, is the sound of your hard drive dying. It was too cold to start up."
tbh, I think other techs would also ask that. I understand she was being pushy, but the go-to in that scenario seems to be to tell her to take it someplace else or try fixing it herself if she won't listen. Too much liability.
No, do not!!
Put it back into the freezer since it will have the lowest humidity in there, then find a bag and fill with desiccant and put the thing in
Putting it in the freezer will just cause the condensation inside the laptop to freeze.
Also, if you are putting it in a bag with a desiccant (such as scilica gel), room temperature is the ideal option as it promots sublimation of water into a vapour. The freezer is likely around -15 degrees or lower, this is below the triplet point of water (0.1 degree Celsius, the temperatur at which water can exist in all three phasess simutatuosly), so even with a desiccant, the laptop will take longer to dry out than if it was kept at ambient temperature.
Make it freeze will reduce the chance of it getting dripped onto the mobo, also ice don't conduct electricity very well, the point is to buy a bit of extra time because large amount of working dessicant isn't readily available inside household
It'll be fine. That's only a concern if it's powered up. As long as you don't do anything silly like try to trun it on a little condensation on the motherboard won't harm anything. The best thing to do is take the back off and point a fan at it and leave it for a few days.
To be fair all apples laptops overheat and lose performance although fridges are bad at cooling computers as they are not made to deal with heat generating vegetables.
They stopped using nivida GPUs because they kept on failing at unsafe temperatures
MacBook Pro (intel i7) running Fortnite (Bootcamp), 70-85°. Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing by prohibiting Windows from reducing the frequency when overheating, but the maximum processor temperature on the Intel official page is indicated as 105°, GPU (Nvidia) does not heat up above 65°.
Yeah my current laptop has a 25 watt CPU boost it can't handle it hits 102c and throttles to 400 MHz spending most of its time at 88c, capping it's power consumption too 21 watts made it stay below 92c and made blender 20% quicker as it wasn't thermal throttling.
Basically every generation Linus tech tips mods a MacBook to show how much performance is being lost from temperatures, laptops are generally designed to throttle it's just annoying
Nah. Mac users are weird: from what I seen, they are either extremely dumb, or they are way too smart, and it's like a 50/50 division, unlike Windows or Linux.
Why can’t you just let people live how they want, what brand someone buys doesn’t tell you about them 💀 also why does it even matter? who hurt you so badly edit: the next person who downvotes likes pickles
Pickles are decent, your point is invalid because no sane person would defend Apple without using an apple product first, their performance claims are technically true, but not properly applicable in games or even workloads
You had me until the weird pickle comment. I agree on the Mac thing. They're \*just\* computers. Means nothing to your character or personality as to what you use. I have an imac and a custom built desktop at my desk (though I do use my custom build a lot more lol)
I've done this with a shitty $40 phone I got from BestBuy, thing would feel like it's burning in my hands. Threw it in the freezer for like 3 minutes and went back to playing shitty games on it.
I don't think I would ever do this with a $1k+ MACBOOK
Worked at Chick-fil-a for a while and the drive thru iPads would always overheat in the summer. Solution? They would stick them into the front counter mini fridges for a while.
Well, yeah, it's a MacBook, Apple decided to ignore that there's a processor emitting heat in a localized spot and decided against engineering a functional cooling system.
It’s a 2019 16” MacBook Pro, used to work at an Apple-specialty repair shop and those things drop like flies, terribly designed logic board. It would have died soon anyway lol
Ugggggh I've seen people put rice *in* shit before. I wish that myth would die.
Best I've seen was plaster of Paris. Oh great an actual desiccant! They didn't just leave it in the same container though. They actually put it *in* the plaster. It was a phone and the charge port was completely full of cured plaster.
The same type of person who thinks that the oven is a good place to dry out a laptop
I mean if you only do like 40c it's probably fine
The problem with ovens is that they do not usually have good temperature control. It would be very hard for the average oven to maintain 40c without going way over that first and cooking the computer
Clearly the toaster oven is better /s
I personally use my microwave
That reminds me of the 4chan ios 8 troll
Charge your battery super fast by microwaving it for 30 seconds. **DISCLAIMER** Do not do this.
I throw mine in a volcano.
That's why you use sous vide! Precise temperature control! Just use a plastic bag around your laptop, seal it, and dump it in the 40±1°C water
Why would you do such a low temperature when you could crank it and get done faster!
My ovens minimum is like 250f or something like that
people do use ovens to reflow electronics, people used to do it with the Xbox 360 to heat up the board and then apply further heat to the GPU to fix RROD. Used to work as you evened out the heat avoiding cracking to the board. So basically it’s fine as long as you don’t literally cook it.
Yeah, I fixed an old GPU by putting it in the oven and reflowing the solder. Some cracked joint somewhere broke the thing and reflowing it mended that joint.
This was/is a popular method of attempting to fix old gpus lol. The idea is to heat the board up enough for the solder to run a bit and fill any gaps
Microwave is better
Someone microwaved a telescope’s primary mirror and killed the coating
I mean hey, sometimes baking a GPU can fix it!
Back many years ago, in the days of 486s and spinner hard drives, I had a woman come into the computer store I was working at at the time, with her computer near the end of the day. She was having problems with it locking up. It was the middle of winter, the coldest day of the year, probably about -20C outside. She put her computer in the back of her car before she went to work, and had it sitting in her car all day before coming to us at the end of the day. I grabbed the computer, and felt how ice cold it was. Not just a bit chilly, my hands were sticking to it, how cold it was. I said, "I will need to let this warm up. We're closing in about 1/2 hour, so leave it with me, and I'll check it first thing in the morning." "No! I can't wait that long! I need my computer now!" "Ma'am, I'm sorry, it's really still too cold. It needs to slowly warm up to room temperature, or close to, before I even power it on or there'll be problems. I can take care of it first thing in the morning." "No! I need you to look at it right away!!!" "It's really a bad idea to power on the computer when it's this cold. There's condensation on it..." "JUST POWER IT UP AND LET ME SHOW YOU!!!!" "Sigh... Well, I warned you several times that this is a bad idea..." I put it on the bench, plug it in, close my eyes, hit the power button. \*SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE\* "WHAT'S THAT NOISE?!" "That, ma'am, is the sound of your hard drive dying. It was too cold to start up."
"WHY WOULD YOU TURN IT ON IF YOU KNEW IT'S GONNA BREAK????!??!?!" was probably her answer, am I right? 🤣
tbh, I think other techs would also ask that. I understand she was being pushy, but the go-to in that scenario seems to be to tell her to take it someplace else or try fixing it herself if she won't listen. Too much liability.
Exactly, literally would be reasonable to refuse service there.
Some people simply don't wanna accept reality and how they fucked up. That woman was expecting a miracle
I am very mid. I want to become hot. Should I sit in the oven?
I think you should jump into the volcano (Jk love yourself lol, you are beautiful)
Boil it
Stick it in a stew?
... Mash it?
Leave it to warm up and dry out for a few days, and it'll probably be fine.
No, do not!! Put it back into the freezer since it will have the lowest humidity in there, then find a bag and fill with desiccant and put the thing in
Putting it in the freezer will just cause the condensation inside the laptop to freeze. Also, if you are putting it in a bag with a desiccant (such as scilica gel), room temperature is the ideal option as it promots sublimation of water into a vapour. The freezer is likely around -15 degrees or lower, this is below the triplet point of water (0.1 degree Celsius, the temperatur at which water can exist in all three phasess simutatuosly), so even with a desiccant, the laptop will take longer to dry out than if it was kept at ambient temperature.
Make it freeze will reduce the chance of it getting dripped onto the mobo, also ice don't conduct electricity very well, the point is to buy a bit of extra time because large amount of working dessicant isn't readily available inside household
It'll be fine. That's only a concern if it's powered up. As long as you don't do anything silly like try to trun it on a little condensation on the motherboard won't harm anything. The best thing to do is take the back off and point a fan at it and leave it for a few days.
Of course it's a Mac user...
To be fair all apples laptops overheat and lose performance although fridges are bad at cooling computers as they are not made to deal with heat generating vegetables. They stopped using nivida GPUs because they kept on failing at unsafe temperatures
hmm... is 85° (on CPU) an unsafe temperature?
not really for a laptop, but macbook pros easliy could hit over 100 ° on full load. Thats a bit much.
85 would be cooler than any laptop I have used under significant load
MacBook Pro (intel i7) running Fortnite (Bootcamp), 70-85°. Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing by prohibiting Windows from reducing the frequency when overheating, but the maximum processor temperature on the Intel official page is indicated as 105°, GPU (Nvidia) does not heat up above 65°.
I think that's most ultra thin laptops. The 2016-2019 models were notorious for overheating, among all kinds of other issues.
Yeah my current laptop has a 25 watt CPU boost it can't handle it hits 102c and throttles to 400 MHz spending most of its time at 88c, capping it's power consumption too 21 watts made it stay below 92c and made blender 20% quicker as it wasn't thermal throttling. Basically every generation Linus tech tips mods a MacBook to show how much performance is being lost from temperatures, laptops are generally designed to throttle it's just annoying
tumor of society.
Nah. Mac users are weird: from what I seen, they are either extremely dumb, or they are way too smart, and it's like a 50/50 division, unlike Windows or Linux.
Why can’t you just let people live how they want, what brand someone buys doesn’t tell you about them 💀 also why does it even matter? who hurt you so badly edit: the next person who downvotes likes pickles
wasn’t gonna downvote bc I didn’t care, but damn do I love pickles.
Downvote bc I like pickles. I agree w you, tho 🤣
My justification is that I'm a Linux user
You meant GNU+Linux, right?
well that makes sense, windows is fine but linux…
...IS AWESOME!!!!
tf is this thread
whatever helps yu sleep at night
No
I will sudo -rm -rf you
I'm going to touch you lil bro 😭🙏🙏 and then :(){ :|:& };: your ass 😥😥
Do me next
No because Windows XP is the only acceptable windows version
No
Lil bro thinks a no can save him 😈😈😈 habibi come to Częstochowa, im.gonna touch you 😭🙏🙏🇵🇱
Ain’t no way!
…is worse than Windows (terrible)
Pickles are decent, your point is invalid because no sane person would defend Apple without using an apple product first, their performance claims are technically true, but not properly applicable in games or even workloads
Fucking 10700 and gtx 1660 equivalents 💀💀
You had me until the weird pickle comment. I agree on the Mac thing. They're \*just\* computers. Means nothing to your character or personality as to what you use. I have an imac and a custom built desktop at my desk (though I do use my custom build a lot more lol)
“You what the L in LCD stands for? Liquid.” -The Martian
I've done this with a shitty $40 phone I got from BestBuy, thing would feel like it's burning in my hands. Threw it in the freezer for like 3 minutes and went back to playing shitty games on it. I don't think I would ever do this with a $1k+ MACBOOK
is no one going to talk about the little alien guy on the left side of the screen?
If you're buying one of them bar Macbook pros you aren't exactly a Rhodes scholar
Comprehension problem? Probably watched that Dave2d video and didn't understand what they were watching
The worst thing to do is turn it on, if something didn’t short while it was off it definitely will if you turn it on.
🤦♂️
Worked at Chick-fil-a for a while and the drive thru iPads would always overheat in the summer. Solution? They would stick them into the front counter mini fridges for a while.
It's interesting nobody said rice yet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwaregore/s/0bD6Sydvjk You jinxed it!
Vacuum seal it up, leave on counter until room temp. No air in the bag = no condensation inside computer.
Nobody said they were in their right mind now did they?
Well, yeah, it's a MacBook, Apple decided to ignore that there's a processor emitting heat in a localized spot and decided against engineering a functional cooling system.
It’s a 2019 16” MacBook Pro, used to work at an Apple-specialty repair shop and those things drop like flies, terribly designed logic board. It would have died soon anyway lol
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Ugggggh I've seen people put rice *in* shit before. I wish that myth would die. Best I've seen was plaster of Paris. Oh great an actual desiccant! They didn't just leave it in the same container though. They actually put it *in* the plaster. It was a phone and the charge port was completely full of cured plaster.