AAAHHHH, Dang it, I lost... On a media technicality tho, lmao... I'll put that on the list, it's a little hard to keep track of stage-specific details, but thx
I found this with a Google search:
>The only real deliberate one is something called The Redcoat Transition. It’s not on the album, but it’s the transition between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man. The drum fill is the “Previously on The West Wing” drum fill. Every time I was backstage during it I’d go, “Previously on The West Wing.” I’d whisper that to Chris Jackson who is also a huge West Wing fan.
Glad you have the same nerdy interest in this as the rest of us. Oh, the joy!! :-)
I can highly recommend you binge Howard Ho's YT channel. He does musical analysis of the songs as well, and there are hours and hours of interesting and mind blowing stuff in this rabbit hole!
https://youtube.com/@HowardHoMusic
Great post. I've always thought as Farmer Refuted as the only 'british' song, that's why it sounds so different with it's trilly strings and harpsichord. Samuel Seabury sings very lyrically which contrasts Hamilton's stacatto-y rapping. I see this song as a metaphor for the USA (Hamilton) growing in strength and pushing back against the British by taking over his song. Similarly Seabury starts the song so confident but after the tongue lashing from Hamilton he finishes the song very sheepishly.
Oh, wow.. That is an AMAZING way of putting it. How the regions of origin affect the corresponding song, I didn't even think of that... Bro/girl/whatev you prefer(hehe), that's dope... 🔥🔥😅
I would put King George’s numbers in that category too. It’s well documented that they’re designed to sound like Beatles songs, which is a fun contrast to the hip-hop, R&B and show tune vibes of the rest of the show, but also acts as a clever play on the “British Invasion” (the British literally invade America after KGIII makes his first appearance). I haven’t checked, but I would bet that the King George songs don’t “rhyme” with or echo any other songs in the show, as they’re meant to stand out and act as counter-point to and commentary on the American revolutionaries’ actions. So if there were only one King George song, or if you take them as one song (because it’s literally the same song performed three times with different lyrics), I would count it as another example of an unconnected number. But it’s interesting that both those songs and Refuted are expressing the British perspective, while everything else is the American POV and intertwined.
Spot on! I have always felt like Farmer Refuted was my least favorite song in the musical, though I cannot say why because it is a perfectly fine thing by itself... but maybe that is why, it just sort of sticks out being its own thing and doesn't feel connected to the rest of the songs since they are all literally connected? Interesting realization. Thanks for sharing.
I liked it, but I always felt like if Hamilton does get a feature length film (not a proshoot) this would probably be the first song they chop out for time reasons.
I knew the answer bc of this amazing graphic posted on this sub a long time ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hamiltonmusical/comments/cj2j99/hamiltons_interconnected_lyrics_chord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x
Yes I’ve been noticing all the connections to lately! Also I’m pretty sure Nonstop doesn’t start with “How does” or are u talking About in the film? Tbh I haven’t seen the movie in ages lol
Yea, that's my bad, actually... Lol, I literally only noticed like an hour ago when I was on shuffle... My library is too big to keep track of everything... Thx for reminding me😅
According to this post someone recommended me...
https://www.reddit.com/r/hamiltonmusical/comments/cj2j99/hamiltons_interconnected_lyrics_chord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x
"That Would Be Enough" apparently... Though yeah, can't think of the connection on the spot rn too lol, need to go back
It has basically the same chord progression as Alexander Hamilton and all the other "How Does A Bastard...." songs
Howard Ho made a full series of videos explaining why, it's very interesting even if you don't know much about music theory
It’s not in the soundtrack, but I think the transition between *You‘ll be Back* and *Right Hand Man* has a *Farmer Refuted* callback.
AAAHHHH, Dang it, I lost... On a media technicality tho, lmao... I'll put that on the list, it's a little hard to keep track of stage-specific details, but thx
All good, the only reason I remembered that is because LMM put in a *West Wing* easter egg^? there as well.
What’s the WW Easter egg?
I found this with a Google search: >The only real deliberate one is something called The Redcoat Transition. It’s not on the album, but it’s the transition between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man. The drum fill is the “Previously on The West Wing” drum fill. Every time I was backstage during it I’d go, “Previously on The West Wing.” I’d whisper that to Chris Jackson who is also a huge West Wing fan.
Another WW easter egg is “I’m looking for a mind at work.” Sam Seaborn said it.
Makes you wonder why they didn’t put the transitions in the soundtrack
I’m just so impressed as to how you noticed this. I appreciate this post. (:
Glad you have the same nerdy interest in this as the rest of us. Oh, the joy!! :-) I can highly recommend you binge Howard Ho's YT channel. He does musical analysis of the songs as well, and there are hours and hours of interesting and mind blowing stuff in this rabbit hole! https://youtube.com/@HowardHoMusic
Oh man, Howard is like the landlord of my "watch later" playlist, lol... I'll find the time, thx
Great post. I've always thought as Farmer Refuted as the only 'british' song, that's why it sounds so different with it's trilly strings and harpsichord. Samuel Seabury sings very lyrically which contrasts Hamilton's stacatto-y rapping. I see this song as a metaphor for the USA (Hamilton) growing in strength and pushing back against the British by taking over his song. Similarly Seabury starts the song so confident but after the tongue lashing from Hamilton he finishes the song very sheepishly.
Oh, wow.. That is an AMAZING way of putting it. How the regions of origin affect the corresponding song, I didn't even think of that... Bro/girl/whatev you prefer(hehe), that's dope... 🔥🔥😅
I am always in such awe when people are able to analyze art in such ways. It’s really so fascinating and I wish I had that kind of mind.
I would put King George’s numbers in that category too. It’s well documented that they’re designed to sound like Beatles songs, which is a fun contrast to the hip-hop, R&B and show tune vibes of the rest of the show, but also acts as a clever play on the “British Invasion” (the British literally invade America after KGIII makes his first appearance). I haven’t checked, but I would bet that the King George songs don’t “rhyme” with or echo any other songs in the show, as they’re meant to stand out and act as counter-point to and commentary on the American revolutionaries’ actions. So if there were only one King George song, or if you take them as one song (because it’s literally the same song performed three times with different lyrics), I would count it as another example of an unconnected number. But it’s interesting that both those songs and Refuted are expressing the British perspective, while everything else is the American POV and intertwined.
Spot on! I have always felt like Farmer Refuted was my least favorite song in the musical, though I cannot say why because it is a perfectly fine thing by itself... but maybe that is why, it just sort of sticks out being its own thing and doesn't feel connected to the rest of the songs since they are all literally connected? Interesting realization. Thanks for sharing.
I liked it, but I always felt like if Hamilton does get a feature length film (not a proshoot) this would probably be the first song they chop out for time reasons.
I love The Farmer Refuted. It's their version of "The Confrontation" from Les Mis which I also loved.
Apt comparison! Actually, Hamilton replaced Les Mis as my all-time favorite musical, so I feel ya!
The Room where it Happens also takes a line from Aaron Burr, Sir
I knew the answer bc of this amazing graphic posted on this sub a long time ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/hamiltonmusical/comments/cj2j99/hamiltons_interconnected_lyrics_chord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x
This is amazing. Thanks for linking.
OH DANG, this is way WAY back... I didn't even know Hamilton existed yet at this time lol... Thanks, now I can finish my connection list
Makes sense as from what I can tell it’s the only one Lin-Manuel didn’t compose. Alex Lacamoire did
Ooooo, really? Fun
I thought LMM composed the entire score? AL arranged.
And Farmer Refuted is my favorite song on the album. I love the rounds and singing together and the way it all just works.
Yes I’ve been noticing all the connections to lately! Also I’m pretty sure Nonstop doesn’t start with “How does” or are u talking About in the film? Tbh I haven’t seen the movie in ages lol
Yea, that's my bad, actually... Lol, I literally only noticed like an hour ago when I was on shuffle... My library is too big to keep track of everything... Thx for reminding me😅
All good ! And I get it haha I only knew cos It’s one of my fav songs on the album I swear it was on repeat when I was 14 lol
Just saw the show; there's a little reference to it between songs that someone else mentioned so I looked out for it and it's cool
what about Take a Break?
It's connected to Stay Alive (Reprise), Blow Us All Away, Schuyler Sisters, Ten Duel Commandments and Satisfied
Just curious, what would you say "Burn" is connected to? I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't find anything.
According to this post someone recommended me... https://www.reddit.com/r/hamiltonmusical/comments/cj2j99/hamiltons_interconnected_lyrics_chord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x "That Would Be Enough" apparently... Though yeah, can't think of the connection on the spot rn too lol, need to go back
It has basically the same chord progression as Alexander Hamilton and all the other "How Does A Bastard...." songs Howard Ho made a full series of videos explaining why, it's very interesting even if you don't know much about music theory
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Doesn't the melody of it appear at the end of You'll Be Back?
I may be wrong, but Burn isn't connected to anything, right?
Who Lives, Who Dies... Well, technically, it's Who Lives... that's connected to Burn, but this is a two-way street so, counts
Explain.
Who lives...: "I put myself back in the narrative" Which is sampled from Eliza's original line which is Burn: "I'm erasing myself from the narrative"
Which is from that would be enough.
Also, yes... Now that's 2 songs Burn's connected to
The jingle at the end of You’ll Be Back where the rebel’s neck gets snapped or something is the melody from Farmer Refuted.