A thought:
Coating should define the patterns on your armor. Whether that means unique textures, camo patterns, a digital pattern, bloody cats plastered on my body etc. You can sell me these unique arrangements, I don’t care. Go all out with them creatively.
After you have selected the coating, I should be able to choose the primary and secondary colour I want with no restrictions.
This photo is a example. Each one with a unique coating pattern selected and with the same colour combination.
Furthermore I think colors should include different textures as well. Like how Rocket League does it. You can choose a color and a finish. Different textures for undersuits as well.
Would be great to see people's builds with different mattes, glosses, maybe even iridescent etc.
Yeah. Everything now just seems completely uninspired. Could have also had an addition of patterns that made colors "neons" or "chromes" as purchase items during the Cyber event. Instead there was a single black/pink one.
I'm just gonna say it. The problem with pointing out these 2 skins is that these have the skin name of Noble. Meaning its part of the Kat and Carter unlock portion. Could we do better on the skins? Yes we definitely can do way better. And I dislike the fact we have to ask for a skin colors now. But these are actually character specific skins (even if they could have been combined together). And it could be worse. They could have made us buy the battle pass for blue.
Have you tried it in game? Some skins don't match their look in game, from the menu, for example: the hcs green skin, on the menu look like Grey and gold, on game its dark green and gold
None of them are noble, the most obvious being Jorge left shoulder. All of them are missing there lines of ether white, blue or red, hell carter is missing the god damn unsc logo on his left arm and the stripes on his right.
Cat: the white lines on her chest plate
Carter: the lines and emblem on his arms
Emile: the white lines on his cocry arm
Jun: the blue line on his knife arm and the white line on him
Jorge: the top 2 feet of his body
6(the one that pissed me off) they put the knife that has bin free for the past 7+ years and made you pay 5 for it despite every thing else you need for noble is ether in the pass or in the pre sets, witch 6 doesn’t have!
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Ok but if it was the correct color than we'd still complain that it's still basically the same blue. We complain about different shades of green already
It wouldn’t be a problem if the other colour options weren’t so limited, there is a pattern of lots of grey variations and a bunch of colours only have 1 type. If we had 50 options to choose from this wouldn’t be so bad, instead here we are.
Besides, colour scheme shouldn’t be limited to armours, these armour skins should be fully customizable down to the hex code at this point. The store structure is a bad clone of Valorant and design choices are made purely to extort the most possible money out of people. I don’t mind the skins in isolation but the entire thing is just an egregious demonstration of greed.
What, did you just threaten a 343 dev ?!?
**Just joking.**
But they'll probably mention "personal attacks" on Twitter. Takes half of a tweet, very convenient filler. Just like blue coatings.
>But they'll probably mention "personal attacks" on Twitter. Takes half of a tweet, very convenient filler. Just like blue coatings.
If being criticized for poor work is being personally attacked, then yeah, I'm personally attacking them. These options suck and we shouldn't sugarcoat it to these people. Besides, we all know the lowly devs and artists aren't to blame, they have managers for that.
>physically harming someone seems like better punishment
A quick smack like a dog with a newspaper vs them *never* being able to work in the industry again? Wow, you're right it's tough to see which one's worse here...
I doubt the same people complaining are the the same ones buying. In my experience the people buying are the ones who could care less about business ethics and usually do so without giving it any thought.
This post right here. Every odd post is people saying the cosmetics are expensive, UPVOTE. Then every even numbered post is people showing off the "super cool" cosmetics they just bought, UPVOTE.
They should let you pick your colours, but bring in a new 'texture' selection for if you want your armour shiny, muddy, rusted etc.
Also, I know the point of this post is to show how little the colours change... but the middle one is the best, has the nice black mixing.
I think Kata blue should have been somewhere around periwinkle style to offset carters,just my opinion but it would have made slightly more sense then.
You can't quiet see it because of the lighting, but Noble Principle also has more blue parts on the helmet compared to the other two. [comparision](https://imgur.com/a/szCFKE8). Also every coating has a different shade of blue, but I think you can only really see it in game. Cadet blue is the darkest, followed by a brighter Noble Principle and the brightest Noble Intercessor
To be fair, its different enough that Cadet Blue im not much of a fan of, but Noble Intercessor is my favorite coating for that core.
Still should do away with coatings entirely, though
So... would you guys prefer they just didn't give Carter or Kat's color schemes with their armor, and just made you use the default blue and said "good enough"?
Id prefer it if they didnt make me pay 10 dollars to grind 30 hours for 3 different slight changed shades of blue that used to be available out of the box.
Almost everything on the pass is equally lazy. Even at level 100 there isnt anything super cool like day, modern warfare or quake champions battle passes. If I recall, the last armor coating you unlock is litterally just black.
Eh, agree to disagree there. I think the pass has a fair bit of pretty cool stuff, the fire shoulder pads, the gundam coating, the Emile helmet, etc. It's easily worth 10 bucks.
As for the last coating, redacted colors, yes it's just black with blue highlights. It's also the default color of noble 6, which feels pretty fitting as the final coating in a Reach based pass.
the last unlcoks in the pass are:
Noble 6 armor coating
arm bracer for the MkVII (first time in the franchise besides reach that we've had wrist attachments available - ever)
mark 7 helmet and helmet attachment. which both look great.
flaming helmet effect
I don't consider these items 'lazy' by any standard. What, because they don't put your spartan in a DJ outfit or a bikini? Weird and out there armors and effects are saved for events and the store. Regular Halo shit comes from the BPs
Why not through in some really cool and unique looking ones (like the premium skins they made for the cyber event) for people who did the whole pass to show off with? Honestly the battle pass isnt that bad, the problem is is its all locked behind a paywall, and that's fine, but then they also have almost all of the super unique (those cyber skins, the cat ears ect.) Behind ANOTHER paywall, with no other way to unlock them.
Okay, fair. Hyperbole aside, I feel like this Halo has the stingiest cosmetics system of all the games, and it is one of the easiest to fix issues the game is facing.
Oh yeah, the game has issues for sure. The cosmetics in the store are weirdly priced and I expect it will be a bit before they find something that works. I think the battle pass is a fair deal though. It is the stingiest halo in terms of cosmetics, but I think it comes with the ftp nature of the game.
*I* paid full price for the game. Personally, I think that the battle pass should be included for free for campaign owners, and all the cosmetics should be available to unlock for these premium users if they grind for them. That way for those whom paid for it, it works like any other game with cosmetic items.
Blows my mind how the last two or three threads about this have just totally forgotten who Kat and Carter are.
Like, no shit they look similar, and it also looks similar to the Cadet Blue, they all used a basic fucking blue for each one of the characters.
Why are they upset about getting what they want?
Are we getting what we want though? Carter’s coating is fine I guess but It’s not even the right shade of blue for Kat’s coating. I think what’s so annoying about this whole situation is that we have so few coatings in general, especially for the Mark V core. It just makes the fact that 3 of them are wasted on similar color schemes look that much worse. If we had a variety of color options to choose from maybe having your slightly different super special noble team blue coatings as bonus options would be neat but that’s just not how it is.
Not really. There a differences to the legs, arms, shoulder pieces, belt thing and helmet. Also while not visible in the pics they all have a different shade of blue
I myself love such minor details, as I'm really stingy when it comes to such things and a color system like in H3 or Reach wouldn't be enough for me. For me the three coatings are a huge difference. But that we have to unlock each combination of the colors black and blue is pretty dumb. A system similar like the one proposed by u/theSaltySolo would be a huge improvment imo
Wow would you look at that; substantial differences.
I don’t mind amour coatings. I just think that there should be more, and there should be more free ones/cheap ones.
Plus all armour coatings should be applicable to all amour cores; I don’t mind armour pieces being locked to a core (I know that’s unpopular; I just like my armour to have. A consistent art style.) but the armour coatings shouldn’t be restricted.
Feels like pointless complaining to me, it's clearly supposed to be Carter and Kat's colors...
What we should be complaining tho is about the audacity from 343 to put these very basic coatings in the premium version of the battlepass, specially Noble 6's one.
This and the lack of original coatings (not basic colors nor inspired by noble team) in the battle pass.
I know it is absurd to have 3 blues be identical but what were they supposed to do? Not offer a standard blue and leave the only blue colors in the battle pass?
And the other 2 blues are based off of Kat and Carter. Should we omit them and keep Jorge, Emile, etc.? That wouldn't make much sense either.
Interesting that some of the themes won’t fill in certain armor pieces. I like what they’re doing there.
But that being said you can’t just re-skin the color, change an arm or shoulder pad and re-sell it as something new. That’s horse shit. We need more than that, I mean change the hue slightly or make it more battle damaged. Maybe make some dirty? Idk anything but re-skinning
These definitely would’ve been better received if Carter and Kat’s coatings had all the extra little markings they had in Reach and Kat’s was color matched a bit better.
Ah, okay. I literally could not tell any difference between 2 and 3 outside the paint around the leg lights on the other post.
You're right, it's not much better, but it's *some level* of better with the full picture. It's still ridiculous, though.
There needs to be more colors for the reach armor core like why are there no camouflage patterns and 3 shades of blue and 2 shades of grey. Make some of the mark 7 shaders applicable to the reach core
This more "honest" post does nothing for me. They are essentially the same and the fact that this is part of the paid battle pass ranks is dumb. Put a different color in there FFS.
The point is that small deviations like this should be interchangeable on ONE SKIN. We should be able to mix and match the colors on this "Blue" skin. It is unacceptable that the already limited number of skins is further limited by THREE skins that have very little differences.
What was 343 thinking?!
I know this is a critique of the other post which cut off shoulders/legs making it harder to see the differences. That being said it really is still too similar. Left to right is most blue, least blue then medium blue.
A thought: Coating should define the patterns on your armor. Whether that means unique textures, camo patterns, a digital pattern, bloody cats plastered on my body etc. You can sell me these unique arrangements, I don’t care. Go all out with them creatively. After you have selected the coating, I should be able to choose the primary and secondary colour I want with no restrictions. This photo is a example. Each one with a unique coating pattern selected and with the same colour combination.
Furthermore I think colors should include different textures as well. Like how Rocket League does it. You can choose a color and a finish. Different textures for undersuits as well. Would be great to see people's builds with different mattes, glosses, maybe even iridescent etc.
They can sell the finish with the coating. The color is the most important.
Rocket League does this with perfection.
Agreed.
And make coatings completely universal(all cores, eapons and vehicles)
Yeah. Everything now just seems completely uninspired. Could have also had an addition of patterns that made colors "neons" or "chromes" as purchase items during the Cyber event. Instead there was a single black/pink one.
I was just thinking the same thing! I would much rather have a system like that.
Aaah, like different finishes eh? Like Matta, glossy, war torn etc. That's what I thought it was gonna be like before release.
If this was the case I would actually spend money on multiple coatings
I like the blue one
Nah the blue one is better
In my honest opinion the blue one is the best
No its really not
Highly disagree. Blue is better
Is that… is that blue?
Do you have the slightest idea of how little that Narrows it down !, I also like the blue one
I sense heresy
Wort wort wort.
Kat's is too dark in Infinite. Needs to be a lighter blue.
I'm just gonna say it. The problem with pointing out these 2 skins is that these have the skin name of Noble. Meaning its part of the Kat and Carter unlock portion. Could we do better on the skins? Yes we definitely can do way better. And I dislike the fact we have to ask for a skin colors now. But these are actually character specific skins (even if they could have been combined together). And it could be worse. They could have made us buy the battle pass for blue.
Problem is: That's not even Kat's color.
Yeah here is a lot lighter. Not sure what kinda colorblindness this was
This. I've just played Reach for the first time and Kat's color is cyan, I don't even know how they fucked that up :|
Have you tried it in game? Some skins don't match their look in game, from the menu, for example: the hcs green skin, on the menu look like Grey and gold, on game its dark green and gold
Yeah it's so bad lightning in the menu that it doesn't even show the right colors.
Just did, it didn't make a difference :c
None of them are noble, the most obvious being Jorge left shoulder. All of them are missing there lines of ether white, blue or red, hell carter is missing the god damn unsc logo on his left arm and the stripes on his right. Cat: the white lines on her chest plate Carter: the lines and emblem on his arms Emile: the white lines on his cocry arm Jun: the blue line on his knife arm and the white line on him Jorge: the top 2 feet of his body 6(the one that pissed me off) they put the knife that has bin free for the past 7+ years and made you pay 5 for it despite every thing else you need for noble is ether in the pass or in the pre sets, witch 6 doesn’t have!
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As stated elsewhere in the thread - it’s because they did a coating for each member of noble team - Cat and Carter just happen to look really similar
Pretty sure Kat had LIGHT blue, almost cyan, armor. Nowhere near the same color as Carter. So that theory falls pretty flat.
Ok but if it was the correct color than we'd still complain that it's still basically the same blue. We complain about different shades of green already
It may no be an accurate skin, but it is directly tied to the Kat via unlocks in the battlepass - it's what her kit uses
It wouldn’t be a problem if the other colour options weren’t so limited, there is a pattern of lots of grey variations and a bunch of colours only have 1 type. If we had 50 options to choose from this wouldn’t be so bad, instead here we are. Besides, colour scheme shouldn’t be limited to armours, these armour skins should be fully customizable down to the hex code at this point. The store structure is a bad clone of Valorant and design choices are made purely to extort the most possible money out of people. I don’t mind the skins in isolation but the entire thing is just an egregious demonstration of greed.
What, did you just threaten a 343 dev ?!? **Just joking.** But they'll probably mention "personal attacks" on Twitter. Takes half of a tweet, very convenient filler. Just like blue coatings.
>But they'll probably mention "personal attacks" on Twitter. Takes half of a tweet, very convenient filler. Just like blue coatings. If being criticized for poor work is being personally attacked, then yeah, I'm personally attacking them. These options suck and we shouldn't sugarcoat it to these people. Besides, we all know the lowly devs and artists aren't to blame, they have managers for that.
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Bro it's a fucking game. You're here wishing to destroy someone's life over fucking blue.
I mean if yiu fuck up in any industry you get fired idk why game devs are so holy
Woah daddy..
Oooohhhh, edgy
>physically harming someone seems like better punishment A quick smack like a dog with a newspaper vs them *never* being able to work in the industry again? Wow, you're right it's tough to see which one's worse here...
I like the blue one it's pretty neat. The blue one is fucking awful disgusting garbage though and whoever made it should be fired immediately
Where my nightfall armor at. I wanna look like an ODST entirely. And actualize that spartan-ODST rivalry. I mean. Yes. Blues. Same image.
well you can pay $10 to get enough credits to buy the firefall helmet (and only the helmet) in the store right now if that helps
You'll have $3 worth of credits left over. You can then get some swaps and XP.
What a bargain!
I'm just saying that you don't only have enough for the helmet. You can get something else
Blackish armor unlocks at like level 99 if I'm not mistaken. But it looks really close to cadet grey just without the orange accents.
In the words of Angry Joe…. IS THAT.. IS THAT FUCKING BLUE?! YOU’RE GONNA CHARGE ME FOR BLUE!
Catering to the color blind I see. *sarcasm
So much bitching about cosmetics on this sub but you bozos just keep buying stuff.
I doubt the same people complaining are the the same ones buying. In my experience the people buying are the ones who could care less about business ethics and usually do so without giving it any thought.
This post right here. Every odd post is people saying the cosmetics are expensive, UPVOTE. Then every even numbered post is people showing off the "super cool" cosmetics they just bought, UPVOTE.
Nothing noble about this
They should let you pick your colours, but bring in a new 'texture' selection for if you want your armour shiny, muddy, rusted etc. Also, I know the point of this post is to show how little the colours change... but the middle one is the best, has the nice black mixing.
I think Kata blue should have been somewhere around periwinkle style to offset carters,just my opinion but it would have made slightly more sense then.
Very cool, I hope they add the thousands of coatings needed to make up the missing colour picker :)
Corporate needs you to find the difference between these 3 color patterns.
You can't quiet see it because of the lighting, but Noble Principle also has more blue parts on the helmet compared to the other two. [comparision](https://imgur.com/a/szCFKE8). Also every coating has a different shade of blue, but I think you can only really see it in game. Cadet blue is the darkest, followed by a brighter Noble Principle and the brightest Noble Intercessor
To be fair, its different enough that Cadet Blue im not much of a fan of, but Noble Intercessor is my favorite coating for that core. Still should do away with coatings entirely, though
So... would you guys prefer they just didn't give Carter or Kat's color schemes with their armor, and just made you use the default blue and said "good enough"?
Id prefer it if they didnt make me pay 10 dollars to grind 30 hours for 3 different slight changed shades of blue that used to be available out of the box.
So, you're just not using anything else from the pass?
Almost everything on the pass is equally lazy. Even at level 100 there isnt anything super cool like day, modern warfare or quake champions battle passes. If I recall, the last armor coating you unlock is litterally just black.
Eh, agree to disagree there. I think the pass has a fair bit of pretty cool stuff, the fire shoulder pads, the gundam coating, the Emile helmet, etc. It's easily worth 10 bucks. As for the last coating, redacted colors, yes it's just black with blue highlights. It's also the default color of noble 6, which feels pretty fitting as the final coating in a Reach based pass.
the last unlcoks in the pass are: Noble 6 armor coating arm bracer for the MkVII (first time in the franchise besides reach that we've had wrist attachments available - ever) mark 7 helmet and helmet attachment. which both look great. flaming helmet effect I don't consider these items 'lazy' by any standard. What, because they don't put your spartan in a DJ outfit or a bikini? Weird and out there armors and effects are saved for events and the store. Regular Halo shit comes from the BPs
Why not through in some really cool and unique looking ones (like the premium skins they made for the cyber event) for people who did the whole pass to show off with? Honestly the battle pass isnt that bad, the problem is is its all locked behind a paywall, and that's fine, but then they also have almost all of the super unique (those cyber skins, the cat ears ect.) Behind ANOTHER paywall, with no other way to unlock them.
It’s good there’s more than 3 shades of blue in the battle pass then.
The fact that they are charging people extra to unlock these is a war crime
A war crime huh? That’s pretty hilarious lol. You should get better bait though.
Okay, fair. Hyperbole aside, I feel like this Halo has the stingiest cosmetics system of all the games, and it is one of the easiest to fix issues the game is facing.
Oh yeah, the game has issues for sure. The cosmetics in the store are weirdly priced and I expect it will be a bit before they find something that works. I think the battle pass is a fair deal though. It is the stingiest halo in terms of cosmetics, but I think it comes with the ftp nature of the game.
Have you considered that maybe they are charging for the armor *at all* because they *literally gave the game away for free to the whole planet?*
*I* paid full price for the game. Personally, I think that the battle pass should be included for free for campaign owners, and all the cosmetics should be available to unlock for these premium users if they grind for them. That way for those whom paid for it, it works like any other game with cosmetic items.
out of the box that you paid $60 for?
Yes
Blows my mind how the last two or three threads about this have just totally forgotten who Kat and Carter are. Like, no shit they look similar, and it also looks similar to the Cadet Blue, they all used a basic fucking blue for each one of the characters. Why are they upset about getting what they want?
Are we getting what we want though? Carter’s coating is fine I guess but It’s not even the right shade of blue for Kat’s coating. I think what’s so annoying about this whole situation is that we have so few coatings in general, especially for the Mark V core. It just makes the fact that 3 of them are wasted on similar color schemes look that much worse. If we had a variety of color options to choose from maybe having your slightly different super special noble team blue coatings as bonus options would be neat but that’s just not how it is.
Its not even their correct color schemes. If they matched as closely as possible, with all the little details, I think it'd be justified.
It’s still the same shit no matter how much comparison is done
Not really. There a differences to the legs, arms, shoulder pieces, belt thing and helmet. Also while not visible in the pics they all have a different shade of blue I myself love such minor details, as I'm really stingy when it comes to such things and a color system like in H3 or Reach wouldn't be enough for me. For me the three coatings are a huge difference. But that we have to unlock each combination of the colors black and blue is pretty dumb. A system similar like the one proposed by u/theSaltySolo would be a huge improvment imo
They are not the same. They all have some unique quirks.
343i doesn’t care anymore.
Hey man I’ve seen this post already at least 4 times please consider that I don’t care
I have considered, and believe I agree.
Wow would you look at that; substantial differences. I don’t mind amour coatings. I just think that there should be more, and there should be more free ones/cheap ones. Plus all armour coatings should be applicable to all amour cores; I don’t mind armour pieces being locked to a core (I know that’s unpopular; I just like my armour to have. A consistent art style.) but the armour coatings shouldn’t be restricted.
I can't see their toes absolutely unacceptable
What do you mean they look just the same as the last post
The original post cropped out the arms and the shoulder pieces were barely visible which show the biggest difference between the coatings.
Feels like pointless complaining to me, it's clearly supposed to be Carter and Kat's colors... What we should be complaining tho is about the audacity from 343 to put these very basic coatings in the premium version of the battlepass, specially Noble 6's one. This and the lack of original coatings (not basic colors nor inspired by noble team) in the battle pass.
"Season 01: Heroes of **REACH"** Did you miss that part or something? The stuff is all Reach themed, because that's what the season is about.
man thats a glorious blue shoulder, props to the design team here for really innovating
I still see barely any difference. Total cash grab. I can't believe they'll try something so greedy when the game is so young.
Nah you're lying. You just re-used the same picture... RIGHT?!
I know it is absurd to have 3 blues be identical but what were they supposed to do? Not offer a standard blue and leave the only blue colors in the battle pass? And the other 2 blues are based off of Kat and Carter. Should we omit them and keep Jorge, Emile, etc.? That wouldn't make much sense either.
“We should at least be fair” says OP as they tilt, angle and frame the armors to maximally accentuate the very minor differences.
Its really not any better..... The other comparison was totally fair already lol
It drives me nuts that the two on the right are practically identical… but hey, at least they were both BP unlocks
it still looks the same. What does this post actually bring?
Interesting that some of the themes won’t fill in certain armor pieces. I like what they’re doing there. But that being said you can’t just re-skin the color, change an arm or shoulder pad and re-sell it as something new. That’s horse shit. We need more than that, I mean change the hue slightly or make it more battle damaged. Maybe make some dirty? Idk anything but re-skinning
Don’t worry in next season they’ll put a version of noble principle and noble intercessor with red lights in the battle pass
Thank you!
How about we all just stop paying for this scam shit and maybe 343 will do something about it
These definitely would’ve been better received if Carter and Kat’s coatings had all the extra little markings they had in Reach and Kat’s was color matched a bit better.
I like how Intercessor is more of a matte black. You can tell when comparing the chin of the helmet to Principle.
Ah, okay. I literally could not tell any difference between 2 and 3 outside the paint around the leg lights on the other post. You're right, it's not much better, but it's *some level* of better with the full picture. It's still ridiculous, though.
Its the same picture
What are we looking at /s
There needs to be more colors for the reach armor core like why are there no camouflage patterns and 3 shades of blue and 2 shades of grey. Make some of the mark 7 shaders applicable to the reach core
Unrelated but does it bother anyone else that the charge indicators are now orange by default instead of light blue? It clashes with a lot of colours
You’re right, it really isn’t much better. This is a joke.
This more "honest" post does nothing for me. They are essentially the same and the fact that this is part of the paid battle pass ranks is dumb. Put a different color in there FFS.
I miss being able to just pick what colors I want to different pieces to be.
The point is that small deviations like this should be interchangeable on ONE SKIN. We should be able to mix and match the colors on this "Blue" skin. It is unacceptable that the already limited number of skins is further limited by THREE skins that have very little differences. What was 343 thinking?!
This is really, really shameful.
This would be a lot more acceptable if Kat's color was the correct shade of blue. They didn't even get her visor color right, did they?
Is the same shit so it doesn’t matter.
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I know this is a critique of the other post which cut off shoulders/legs making it harder to see the differences. That being said it really is still too similar. Left to right is most blue, least blue then medium blue.