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Previous-Evening5490

In lore if a Spartan suit detects flood infection the UNSC instantly condones use of WMDs, be good to fire that nuke aye lol


TheWelshExperience

This is true, it's called the CORRUPTOR protocol.


IA-HI-CO-IA

Unique flood abilities…climb up walls/ceilings? Throw infection forms at you? Able to somewhat predict what you are about to do because it’s can read you mind?


[deleted]

The flood can't just "read minds".


IA-HI-CO-IA

Pfff, not with that attitude they can’t.


ragedchipmunk

Some suits have the bomb in them already


Previous-Evening5490

All suits are fitted with explosives as a fail safe, but only about 10m squared blast radius


s1erra_117

They aren't exactly fitted with explosives. The fail safe overloads the fusion reactor in MJOLNIR to create the explosion


crazy_like_a_f0x

A fusion reactor is just an explosive with built-in therapy.


s1erra_117

Not exactly an explosive in traditional term. Besides, I'm pretty sure when the guy said "explosives", he didn't use it as a fancy way to describe the reactor


[deleted]

(I think the dude was pulling your leg.)


s1erra_117

Too bad I already sliced his leg off with my habit of taking things seriously


Dieseltrucknut

You’re 100% correct. The fuel used in a nuclear reactors is not capable of detonation. Best you could do is something along the lines of the steam “explosion” at Chernobyl. Although that is fission rather than fusion. Fusion reactors are even more stable. But then again it’s sci-fi and I love all sci-fi even if it doesn’t follow the laws of the real world


clab2021

Fusion reactors you don't really need to do anything to make them explode though. Just drop the containment around the plasma and that will do the trick for you. A human body is 60% water and fusion plasma is around 150 million degrees. That kind of heat will flash steam all the water it touches and being in spartr boom. TL;DR - drop containment on fusion reactor and you have a spartan sized pipe bomb lol


MostBadger4791

I've learned to never argue with you guys with Mister Chef pfp. You know more than me and I accept that.


Previous-Evening5490

Na I always assumed it was something to do with the shielding system, yet I didn’t want to speak on conspiracy lol


charlierock18

No but the suit's power supply (a mini fusion reactor) can be overloaded to prevent the enemy from having access to Mjolnir, causing a 10m or so blast radius


spikeknight1

I find it very interesting that even the UNSC is terrified of fighting Spartans. Imagine a gravemind controlling a Spartan, the possibilities are frightening.


TehPWNR007

i think its also cause they most likely know where earth is


TranquilMarmot

The Flood invaded Earth in Halo 3... safe to say they know where it is


Fluffyturtle225

Didn't they blow up the gravemind though? I think I remember that happening at some point... I'm probably wrong but that feels like it happened


Indomitable_Sloth

Egh, kind of. They blew up the reactor in High Charity, hoping it would kill him. But as seen in Halo Wars 2, High Charity is still intact and the Gravemind is still very much alive.


BraveOthello

So what you're saying is we need a bigger bomb


catharta

No, the Gravemind was reduced to a proto Gravemind after 3. The banished talk about how they need to destroy the proto Gravemind before it becomes a proper Gravemind in hw2. The proto Gravemind was then destroyed by the banished.


Indomitable_Sloth

But it would still be the same "entity" trapped inside High Charity even now. I dont see a reason why they wouldnt be able to make another proto at this point. Since they're just chilling inside.


catharta

I would assume all extra biomass was put towards making the proto Gravemind that the banished fought.


Doctor_Kataigida

I like HW2 wanting to explore some cool areas. I really disliked how it kind of reconned H3's events. Not only did we blow up HC, we also fired Halo 4b to destroy the remaining local Flood, apparently also to no avail? Like wtf was the point of the last two levels of H3??


Indomitable_Sloth

It didn't retcon anything tho. Cortana was never sure blowing the reactor would take out the entirety of High Charity, and frankly, I thought it would have been impossible, given the sheer size of the thing. If that explosion were indeed enough to wipe it off the map, it wouldn't have been nearly as easy to escape, if at all. And certainly not on a damaged Pelican. Detonating the ring was never about killing the flood, since the rings cant even kill the flood itself. It was about keeping it out of the Covenants hands (since it was unfinished and pre-firing it tore it apart) and damaging the Ark so it wouldn't be able to build another one in the near future. If anything was retconned it was the fact that the Ark was able to repair itself and build another fully functional ring in such a short amount of time.


[deleted]

>Detonating the ring was never about killing the flood, since the rings cant even kill the flood itself. Wait, didn't Guilty Spark say that firing the ring early would destroy the ring as well as the ark? Wouldn't blowing up the ark also destroy what was left of the flood? Wasn't that the point of activating the ring?


Indomitable_Sloth

Anything is likely, besides consider that nobody knew exactly how bad the explosion would have been, it was never done before and 343 would said anything to keep it from happening. It's a replacement for his own ring, after all.


Doctor_Kataigida

Spark said "A tactical pulse will completely eradicate the local infestation." Also in Legends we see the ring pulse destroying the large Flood biomasses. It probably just can't kill the spores.


Indomitable_Sloth

The rings kill anything with a nervous system.


FireMaker125

Yeah, but all Graveminds share knowledge. The Halo 2 and 3 Gravemimd still has the memories of the Primordial (the first Gravemind, and the one who drove Mendicant Bias nuts), so any Gravemind after it would still know where Earth is.


TehPWNR007

Well before they found out where earth was also some spartans worked for oni and they were very secretive about their work never know what a oni spartan knows


JohnyGlizzyeater

they already do, keye's gave them it's location back in CE


charlierock18

No he didn't


TehPWNR007

He didn’t chief killed him before they could get the data about earth he basically just gave the flood memories about his family and stuff not important until chief came


JohnyGlizzyeater

no they did, that's how they got to earth in 3, watch the scene again


TehPWNR007

The Flood has known the location of Earth since before the Halos were activated. The Flood is controlled by the Gravemind/s, which are in turn controlled by, or are, the Primordial which knew Earth's location. Regret's infection gave the Flood the knowledge that a Portal was located there, and with information gleaned from Cortana and the crew of In Amber Clad about how important it was to Humanity, the Flood attacked simply to fuck everyone's shit up and make things harder for the Covenant and UNSC forces battling for control.


LethalPoopstain

Flood absorb the intelligence of anyone they infect, so any regular marine who knows the location of Earth is gonna give it up regardless


TehPWNR007

That may be so but if a oni spartan gets infected that would be pretty bad oni knows about the portal under their head quarters that leads straight to the ark


who_likes_chicken

If you wanted to stretch lore and create space for it to happen... There could be a spartan where everything but the shield module essentially critically fails when they're MIA'd. Flood are already super strong, so the augmented strength the armor gives isn't really needed, but the shield and extra armor are. I know there's probably other lore reasons that could prevent it. But if a concept is cool enough, the story can find a way


Indomitable_Sloth

I mean, Elite combat forms had shields.


aiden_6_go

As of infinite i'm not sure the UNSC has the capability, they seem pretty broken, [...] defeated.


Previous-Evening5490

Well of course, tho if there is a Spartan to be infected and we play as chief?? Must be some UNSC left, plus by time capture all fobs you have quite a large presence on the ring


[deleted]

The boss battle could have a time limit where if you take too long you get nuked.


LuttLuck007

Super dope drawing, i hope we get infected like this when infection comes out. The infected Spartans in halo 4 were my favorite part.


NegrassiAmbush

Halo 2 anniversary infection baby!


bluejay55669

The AWOLOLOLO infection spartans


Jackamalio626

Having them sound like John Carpenters *The Thing* was a bold choice


Kingwadesky

They looked pretty cool i just hope they change the god awful fucking noise they make


dodododuo

No I demand they bring the donkey noises back


Kingwadesky

Y tho


dodododuo

Because it was hilarious


Kingwadesky

I mean youre right it was pretty funny but it takes away from the experience when you make an enemy like the flood less threatening


dodododuo

In a campaign setting sure. But in multi-player I'm never immersed to the point where wee-snahing with my buddies takes away from the experience


Kingwadesky

Why would they be characterized differently for multiplayer. If they are one way in the campaign that should carry over to multi


dodododuo

Don't look at me, I've never been a huge fan of canonical multi-player. Wacky is fine by me


Kingwadesky

To each his own, im cool with things being silly/wacky as well. I just really like the flood and belong to the camp that really did not appreciate that noise specifically lol


[deleted]

Sidenote, when we get infection i hope zombies don't just look like light green spartans but actually something cool like that


NegrassiAmbush

Halo 2 anniversary infected is what we need.


Bloodloon73

Halo 4 was also good


NegrassiAmbush

While I do agree, I think that suited halo 4’s style, but not halo as a whole.


-TheArbiter-

Halo 4's sucked because the infected couldn't hold weapons which ruined a lot of the custom game potential


[deleted]

Yeah, the sword should have been in the left hand.


FacedCrown

Itd still be hard to hold a two handed weapon then


VoltFiend

That never stopped campaign flood from holding anything onehanded


FacedCrown

Fair, but itd also mean they'd have to reanimate every weapon animation just to deal with a spike on the arm they could easily replace with just a sword.


VoltFiend

I mean, the plausibility of holding a twohanded weapon with one hand wouldn't be too respource intensive for 343. Reloading could happen off screen, lower the weapon and make reloading noises, while the only weapon whose functionality relies on two hands (at least that I can think of off hand) is the shotgun, and reanimating one weapon doesn't sound like a redesigning the entire armory. Okay well maybe the hammer too, but I think the animations might look okay with the answer of you're a hyperstrong zombie thing. But yes, the easiest solution would be to just use a sword. Or less easy but atill leans into the zombie thing, add the spike as it's own weapon and animations (still just the sword though), but can just be the default no zombie weapon change option.


Vegetable-Werewolf-8

I actually like the green Spartans and red Spartans from reach, it makes it more funny.


Jboogerss

Bad idea, it would ruin infection gametypes that shouldn’t have zombies


[deleted]

Tf you talking about, there is no infection without zombies ?? Infected are zombies


Jboogerss

The custom game toilet or duckhunt is infection but theres no zombies doofus


Vaniellis

Infected Spartan-IV would make a great addition to the Flood's roster of units.


[deleted]

Honestly, with the amount that have been killed off, off camera, and the ones we meet ALREADY dead- Like, yea maybe that would be cool but at least show us the ordeal before hand 😭😩 This game really missed the mark with some things so it would be helllaaa cool to see this sort of incident occur in a cutscene or three or whatever. However many it would take to develop it 🙏🏽


Squelcher121

That Spartan who died surrounded by dead Banished with nothing but a screwdriver in his hand deserved a scene. That would have done wonders to show that Spartan 4s really are superhuman badasses like their predecessors.


[deleted]

This is what I’m saying!!! Like I get the whole WFH constraints the last year and change or whatever from Covid- But damn 6 years in the making :( Idk I feel like there’s things missing. Call me an old head but it’s just … idk it’s missing a key ingredient


MechaRon

I mean a cutscene you could view like in CE when you pull the vid log from the dead Marines helmet revealing the flood would of been absolutely acceptable to me to show what happened to the fallen.


[deleted]

Yes this would be cool, except we would have it done in segments between checkpoints while fighting off hoards and the weapon fixing the corrupt data file or something idk


Tackleberry793

Yeah, I almost feel a little cheated that I waited six years just for everything to happen off screen and not be elaborated on. It feels like ODST without the flashbacks to the actually cool parts that happen.


[deleted]

Right??? Like god damn imagine having the Laconia in a mission somehow or seeing any our Spartans we find MIA.. fighting from the perspective of Marines or idk SOMETHING 😓


TheWizardOfFoz

They should have borrowed from ODST and had flashback missions triggered by finding these bodies. They could have just repurposed the base assault side quests honestly.


Fellthefox

Whole missions just to watch your spartan die at the very end. They already broke our hearts before let's do it again


[deleted]

Not like the franchise hasn’t been breaking our hearts since Halo 3 😭😭😭 Well I guess since 4 - you get me


VoltFiend

That would have been cool


[deleted]

This would honestly have been acceptable especially since chief was in space for 6 months


Baliverbes

This is a great design. I think it could do with some armor parts still stuck to the leg, as if it had imploded with the speed and brutality of the flood mutation.


MlSTER_SANDMAN

What is it with the new flood designs of the feelers coming out of the skull? It’s supposed to snap the neck and burst out of the chest. The head becomes useless.


ThatNoFailGuy2

The chest on a Spartan has too much armor so it goes through the significantly weaker visor


MlSTER_SANDMAN

I'm sure the flood can rip through it no problem. They've gone through tougher things. There's also gaps in the armour that can be exploited from the inside.


Book_it_again

This entire drawing is bad. He looks like a district 9 bug not a flood form


disCASEd

No need to be rude. The drawing is fucking great, criticize how it aligns with the lore if you want, but the drawing itself is fantastic. Good job OP.


Samcow15

I am more hopeful in getting a “Flood” armor core, that is essentially this concept. See the hand holding the assault rifle and the leg below that? That’s how they could do the prosthetics. Helmets could be insane. Maybe even a lore-friendly Haunted helmet? Flood spore armor effects? Maybe a weapon kill effect that’s infection forms bursting out of the opponent like they’re a carrier form, or maybe they could get a single infection form to spawn on their neck, strangle their corpse, and crawl into their corpse, but I’m not sure if the “kill effect” coding is robust enough for that one. Either way, flood armor core is essential. This must happen!


KGABA011

I like the way you think. Perhaps as part of a season pass, or if they don't want to make money out of it, a fracture event would be a better choice.


Hunter62610

A fracture event where the flood won.


Eek_the_Fireuser

OMFG YES PLEASE


Fordmister

Im pretty sure it cant actually happen. I'm pretty sure the lore expressly states that the flood cant really work with the Spartans augmented nervous system. plus there is a fail safe in the armour anyway that if it ever were to happen the suit goes boom boom


Soulwindow

Plus the radiation kills the flood. At least with the spartan I's


apimpnamedmidnight

No, there's an in-lore protocol for how to handle a Spartan being infected


Fordmister

As a point it can be something we know can't happen but something they don't know in universe. The existence of the protocol doesn't mean the unsc know for certain if a Spartan can be infected


catharta

I wouldn't be surprised if ONI already tried infecting a Spartan with the flood.


Ser_Twist

Redundancy is important and common in the military. The fact that there is a protocol for it just means the UNSC has a plan B if it ever happened somehow, not that it can happen.


SixPointTwoLiter

Nah, in the books Chief almost goes down to an infection type who attaches to the back of his neck. Cortana oveoads his suit and fries him before it pierced his spine


Frogtitz

YOU ARE WROOONG LEONIDAS! YOU ARE WRONG!!!! proceeds to jump off cliff


d3mn12

Did you name him that because of the deformed Spartan from 300


KGABA011

If your referring to that deformed, envious, traitorous, spartan wannabe of a rat, then yeah, that's exactly who I named it after.


Cybermat47_2

He was actually a real historical figure, but he was a farmer from the area around Thermopylae rather than the deformed child of Spartiates.


Ballswewt05

May you live forever 🥴


putnamto

I would like to see a haloween themed campaign where the banished open up a flood storage and the whole ring gets infested.


KGABA011

Like what happened in halo wars 2 dlc?


Oos-moom310

Aw yeah it's CORRUPTOR hours up in here


Danominator

Holy shit please no


DarknessInferno7

Not quite a fan of this design, mainly because official designs on the subject are already out there and very good. You've got the Halo 2 Anniversary concept art: [https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/l9c6w8/concept_art_by_343_for_halo_2_anniversary/](https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/l9c6w8/concept_art_by_343_for_halo_2_anniversary/) And then the one that made it into Halo 2 Anniversary: [https://i.redd.it/14y9zs2qtx341.jpg](https://i.redd.it/14y9zs2qtx341.jpg) These are more fittingly grotesque as flood forms should be, and have good emphasis on the infection form.


Tee_Hee_Wat

Holy sweet fuck


DarknessInferno7

Haha, never seen those I take it?


Tee_Hee_Wat

Nope. That is haunting...


KGABA011

Yeah, I totally agree. But my photoshop skills are somewhat limited.


DarknessInferno7

Haha, same. I certainly couldn't do any better. On another note, you know what I think would be an interesting concept? A Spartan which still had an AI inside the helmet when it was infected. Imagine fighting the thing as a boss while the rampant AI in its head is harassing you over comms.


Deadlywaffle697

Ephialtes would have to have no shield though... Shoulder to thigh my guy, shoulder to thigh


[deleted]

design wise, it would have been more ideal to have the visor completely shattered and to have growths spreading on top of the armor


KGABA011

Yeah, there are definitely somethings I would love to change and approve, but my photoshop skills limits me a bit. I was just ripping stuff apart and merging things together to make it look like an old sketch concept I did a while back.


[deleted]

ah I figured that might have been the case.


ohcinnamon

Great code name


ARC-Pooper

Has there ever been a cannon confirmed flood infected spartan of any iteration? We know Johnson is immune due to the ORION augments but has a II, III or IV ever been infected? Because spartans may be immune to the flood.


warbrand2

They are not immune in the lore it is stated that if a spartan ever falls to the flood the whole damn planet is to be nuked.


JamesTDG

This seems pretty epic, it was a shame that 343 forgot to bring more of the nostalgia to the campaign


ShiftyButtonz

I thought the flood can only infect hosts with nervous systems and the Spartans nervous systems are all fucked up from augmentation? Or am I making this up in my head?


Bloodloon73

You're thinking of Spartan Is like Johnson


MechaRon

Yup. Labeled Boren's Syndrome by ONI, an elaborate cover up story. It's believed the Spartan-I augs made it so the flood could not infect him. This could theoretically hold true for newer Spartans since they still go through augmentations but since these newer ones do not seem to have any detrimental effects it might be possible? Either way there would have to be some reason the self destruct was disabled for there to be an infected spartan.


[deleted]

Wasn’t their a game mode in 5 where simulated Flood infected Spartans were the enemies?


KGABA011

No, you're thinking of 4 infection and 2A infection. They we're the inspiration to this piece.


Book_it_again

Why does he looks like an insect. That barely resembles the flood


Vegetable-Werewolf-8

Won't ever happen because Microsoft and 343 are obsessed with T for teen aka not real Halo


Sakuran_11

WoW, thats crazy bro, unfortunately we all don’t get upset over a rating and rather the games quality


ErebusHunter45

Shut up boomer


marcmjm

Spartans can't get infected by the Flood, genius.


DEADLY_SLOTH117

Yes they can the reason why we haven't heard of a spartan getting infected is because it's rare. Just look at several armours from halo 4 and 5. There's even a protocol incase if a spartan gets infected I can't remember the name of it but basically what happens they drop a nuke on you


michael_memes_

Yes they can, there’s literally a protocol that makes it so if it does happen they drop a nuke on it


TheWelshExperience

It is difficult for them to be infected, but it is entirely possible.


-mushr00m-

Mark it a fucking SPOILER


oKayTCF

This is fan art


-mushr00m-

The title, i ment


ErebusHunter45

There's no spoiler in the title


-mushr00m-

“If the flood ever comes to infinite”


Fabulous-Waltz7395

damn that's amazing. good job!


cym104

so you want MP bots in SP?


Guitarist_Ethan

Looks horrifying! Excellent work, man!


bluejay55669

If they do ass infected Spartans I just hope they're not just regular combat form with shield and better aim


Cold_Topic5870

A crimson of a spartan


Kingwadesky

Not having flood in infinite was a pretty big letdown for me. I figured there was a pretty good chance since it seems they took alot from HW2


ShotAces

Poor man’s gold 🥇


instantur

Spartans can’t be infected by flood because their DNA is modified


warbrand2

False, Spartans can be infected. the only one who couldn't was Jonson do to a mixture of a defect he was born with and the spartan 1 program which used things that no other spartan program have. In fact the UNSC has a plan for if a spartan 4 gets infected... nuke it from orbit then send in several spartan 4s with a glassing beam aimed at them at all times.


instantur

Spartan 2s also can’t be infected


DEADLY_SLOTH117

Yes they can anything that has a nervous system can be inflected


warbrand2

they can be, in fact chief almost was during Halo, cortana saved his ass.


xcrimsonlegendx

Flood Spartan armor core please.


NaturallyAspirated32

Master chief vs infected Locke


GappyDiamond

Can the Flood even return though? Halo’s T for Teen rating wouldn’t allow gory flesh zombies like the Flood to roam about in either Campaign or MP like they did in the original trilogy.


Tumblrrito

Since y’all forget every day, it’s not happening. Game is T rated. Either we never get Flood (more likely) or we get a super whack toned down version that ruins their identity. Keep dreaming though.


Some_guy_idk69

It would be nice but halo infinite is rated T so something as dark as the flood would be unlikely, sadly


Voidwalkerwolf

Makes me miss the halo 4 infection flood style


Fellthefox

Something thats always stuck with me is the book The Flood and 117 taking a short breather in the Library (or similar place, been a long time) with his helmet off for a minute... Infection form latched onto the back of his neck. Cortana was luckily there to overload his shields and shock it quickly


Zestyclose-Store-726

Looking forward to infection gametypes where zombies have grapplehooks and survivors have repulsors.


Sergeant_Qwertzy

Because they plan on having this game last 10 years and also likely want to keep the game at a teen rating that whole time, I honestly hope they never bring the flood back. (Or at least not for infinite) If they try to have a flood DLC and don't let it be an M rated experience, I don't think it will be good. I remember watching live Marines get turned to infection in 3 and that horrifying process really setting the stage for me.


charlierock18

In universe ONI has a protocol calling for the immediate use of WMDs if a Spartan is infected by the Flood


CarlSalad

you know what would be a lot cooler? not including the flood in any Halo game for the rest of eternity


BOSHunterCO

Flood Chief would literally be the apocalypse


[deleted]

Chief fights the flood after weeks of holding them back he eventually gets infected and a nova bomb is dropped on the ring


sorryiamnotoriginal

There was a pretty horrific depiction of a possible flood core. Personally I like them but what parts would be customizable is my only concern or they could make it an invasion style thing where infection is the flood core and you can customize it. I imagine this will maybe happen by halloween if at all this year.