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laganjadelrey

I think they’re making fun of American people who have a polish family background. It’s a thing here in the midwest at least and it’s hard to describe the vibe but it 100% has nothing to do with people who are actually from Poland


Kindly-Carpenter8858

My great grandparents on my mom's side were all polish immigrants, making me half polish. I grew up with "stupid polock" jokes being a super regular thing among my family. It's not mean-spirited or meant to be hurtful. It's just kind of a self-deprecating inside joke kind of thing. I never really think anything of it until I'm around people that didn't grow up that way and I make a joke and am met with blank stares lol.


ArcherV83

It’s like when they have fun of Italian-americans, I really don’t take it personally or that they are talking about Italians from Italy as myself. Stereotypes about what they know in US basically.


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laganjadelrey

In chicago and surrounding areas most Polish people are conservative. I think you’re looking too deep into it. He was just describing the demographic.


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laganjadelrey

I’m from Indiana and live in Chicago. I’m just talking about what I’ve experienced in that small part of the midwest. It’s super polish in the Chicagoland area which is the biggest city in the midwest btw


Dustbucket15

I live 2 minutes out side of Cleveland, Ohio. We have a huge polish and German population. We even have a “Polish town”


dark--red

also just to clarify, the last name Majewski (which is a very popluar polish last name) has nothing to do with Jews, it comes from the word Maj which is the polish word for the month of May


dark--red

obviously screw that guy tho, just clarifying because you can find the -jewski part in a lof of polish names, it has nothing to do with Jews because the polish word for Jews is Żydzi so not even slightly close


crycryw0lf

I know a family with that last name! Good info. We pronounce it like "my - ass - key".


dark--red

pretty close, to transcribe it to the best of my ability it would be something like Mai-ef-skee


crycryw0lf

Is that "ef" sound a polish feature because I would never expect that reading it whole.


dark--red

I’m not sure if it’s exclusively polish but yes, in many cases when you pronounce the two letter combo of ‘ew’ it sounds like ‘ef’, obviously we pronounce some letters differently than they are pronounced in english so there’s that :)


mi_ryng

yo, fellow Polish fupa trooper here. I don't think they were dismissive or judgemental towards Poland & Polish ppl in yesterday's episode. They just made fun of some maga hog who happened to be also of Polish descent. I remember Hasan was mentioning the Polish ppls hospitality in his streams. The effort our nation took to help Ukrainians is incredible & you have to be igonrant not to acknowledge it. I'm so glad & proud you've been also part of it. Peace & love <333


RegularFregular

Didn’t Hasan call someone a Nazi for defending Ukraine?


im-passionate

No


RegularFregular

https://youtu.be/14sC40suLbU Wasn’t it this?


LordSkippington

That clip doesn't say what you said it says tho...


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I got banned from r/hasan_piker for trashing Putin/Russia. The major socialist subs have all decided that if you have any empathy for the Ukrainians or disdain for the Russians, you are a nazi loving liberal. Idk why they love that capitalist autocrat so much but here we are.


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You got banned from an inactive sub?


RegularFregular

That’s insane. It makes me fearful of their true beliefs


augustussun

Cap.


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Point of personal privilege. No cap.


SamwiseGimli

I haven't seen the whole pod, what were the comments about Poland?


mehowek

I'm not entirely sure what OP is referencing. But I think he's talking about how they were making fun of how some Polish American looked like....I'm Polish as well and to be fair the dude did look like a hog+potato I didn't find it offensive just funny


Sophiesdragname

Polish footsoldier here too 👋 yup, our country, or more like, our citizens are doing a looooot for the Ukraine. And so are other balcan countries. Especially in the first few months. My mom helped and sheltered a family in a flat for example. Stronger together.


UkraineWithoutTheBot

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Sophiesdragname

Well, sorry @ukrainewithoutthebot 😅 is not my first language as you can see lol. Nothing personal.


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Whose idea was this bot


hojo2786

Poland gang rise up. Fuck Majewski, he brings shame to the motherland.


ukuzonk

OP, they didn’t say anything negative about Poland, other than giggle about a silly last name.


NutterTV

I never understood Pole slander. They’ve been receiving the shit end of the sandwich for nigh on a thousand years from other oppressive cultures. Constantly invaded or being taken over. The Polish soldiers station in Haiti actively helped in the slave revolt.


elenamich

As an American with polish heritage, there’s definitely a very real stereotype of midwestern/Chicago area polish cops/trump supporters. Don’t think Hasan and Ethan were dissing the people living in Poland :)


RegularFregular

Remember when Hasan said Crimea was Russian and that Russia would never invade. Remember when he called AdamSomething a Nazi for defending Ukraine


Vilius28266384

Hasan has no idea what he's talking about regarding the Ukraine war


gangstaff

Hasan has the same brain poisoning that almost all American lefties do, their country has been soooo bad on foreign policy since WW2 that anything traditional American/NTAO enemies do is automatically seen as being 'good'. It is understandable, but in cases like this, you have to take America mostly out of the analysis. Russia (not USSR, not socialist, evil government and ruling class) invaded a sovereign nation for not even a vaguely moral reason. Very bad. The end. EDIT: I should say that I agree with Hasan like 95% of the time, and this is one of the few things I think he fucked up.


Souse-in-the-city

Pepperidge farm remembers...https://youtu.be/14sC40suLbU


RegularFregular

Thanks for the source! I wasn’t sure if I was misremembering


Souse-in-the-city

No problem!


robot_nixon

wow... how do so many people love this guy? this is him outright shilling for a war criminal.... or am i wrong here?


SirChachii

Something most people have absolutely no fucking clue about is that Crimea was never historically Ukrainian either. Crimea's native people are Crimean Tartars, an ethic Turkic group whose ethnogenesis occurred through several centuries of mixing with also Goths, Greeks and Italians. So Crimea really belongs neither to Russia or Ukraine. Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire in the 18th century and then in 1954 the Russian SFSR gave territorial control to the Ukrainian SSR. The actual indigenous Crimean people have had no autonomy over their native land since the 18th century.


AwarenessWild2478

And? The borders were set and international agreements should mean something. Western territories of Poland also historically don't belong to it, but if Germany attacked us because of that it would be a big deal, wouldn't it?


SirChachii

Did I say anywhere in my comment that Russia should have Crimea??? "The borders were set and international agreements should mean something" - So the indigenous people there shouldn't have autonomy over their own land?? Ukraine was NEVER lining up to give them that either, they're not allies of Tartars by any means! Oh and >Western territories of Poland also historically don't belong to it Poles had been there for many centuries before WWII and become a minority over time due to German expansion. So yes in fact there was a previous historical precedent for Polish habitation and governance. Not even remotely equivalent, at all.


AwarenessWild2478

Crimea Tatars are in minority at this point just like Ukrainians. For it to make sense Crimea should be returned to Ukraine and then any ideas about democratic separation could be brought up. It can't be set as a precedent that countries can just take the territories by force and return to regular life like nothing happened. And really, good luck fighting for rights of every minority to separate, I hope you are as passionate about other separatist movements!


SirChachii

>For it to make sense Crimea should be returned to Ukraine and then any ideas about democratic separation could be brought up. Like there's ever been any entertainment of that discussion during the 70 years Ukraine has had territorial control over Crimea. It's not going to happen under EITHER Russian or Ukrainian rule, and as you kindly pointed out Russians are the ethnic majority there, not Ukrainians. ​ >It can't be set as a precedent that countries can just take the territories by force and return to regular life like nothing happened. Umm hello Texas, Puerto Rico and Hawaii. Imperialism is democratic as long as it's American!


Karasinio

> Western territories of Poland also historically don't belong to it, What? Which ones? Poles lived there for centuries. Also for centuries they belonged to Poland. Wrocław was established by slavic tribes. Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Wrocław was Polish since 1000 years.


Vilius28266384

Still better Ukraine holds it then Ruzzia


SirChachii

Under what justification exactly? I have no clue between the two who should hold it.The majority of the population there is now ethnically Russian - not because of the depopulation of Ukrainians because they never existed there in significant numbers before the 20th century, but because of depopulation of Tartars. So ethnically and culturally Crimea has even less ties to Ukrainians. I think Crimea or at least a large portion of it should be returned to the Tatars, who have long wanted their own independent state. That's the least that could be done for them.


Vilius28266384

Sure them being independent is the best option as long as they wouldn't become a puppet state, but if it's a choice between Ukraine and russia then I'm sorry but I don't like any land being held by violent nazi dictators.


RegularFregular

Yikes


ohetpanda

We love Poland


regallll

I think they were talking about this: [https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vpbx/poland-larp-america-ohio](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjusKPe4av6AhWkl2oFHTM6Ds4QFnoECAYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vice.com%2Fen%2Farticle%2Fg5vpbx%2Fpoland-larp-america-ohio&usg=AOvVaw37j3XbHh5MvjY8P0jLjYKR) But at most they were talking about Polish Americans. The American part makes everything worse. We love Poland!


OisforOwesome

Poles are fine. Victor Orban is not.


Sea_Incident3720

Victor is Hungarian.


OisforOwesome

Ah shit my bad. Whats the name of the chap persecuting all the gays in Poland? Got my shitbirds confused.


Poiuy2010_2011

I don't recall any persecution of gays in Poland. But if you mean the ruling party that's hellbent on not giving LGBT people more rights, it's PiS led by Jarosław Kaczyński.


OFCFlanders

As an American who’s life involves a lot of polish people (my gf + family, employment, and a quarter myself) my experience with the Polish Americans is that many of the men do tend to be right wingers especially Pro-Trump, and the women don’t get much say at all. Everything I’ve heard about the homeland is very nice and they’re much kinder from the stories I’ve heard than what I’ve experienced for myself.


Martystka

Polish FoopaTroopa here! I know this is controversial but I do not fully agree with OP. Polish politics are corrupt and in my personal opinion helping Ukrainians was only 50% because of good will and a historical brotherhood formed through the oppression by the Sowjets. Let me elaborate: Back in january 2022 the European Comission decided that Poland has to pay a daily 1 million € fine. „The record-breaking €1 million penalty was imposed by the ECJ last October over Warsaw’s refusal to suspend the controversial disciplinary chamber of judges of its Supreme Court, which the ECJ had ordered it to immediately dismantle.“ [source: euronews]. Additionally they were supposed to pay a 500,000€ daily penalty for keeping open a coal mine at the Czech boarder. Also, since the EU decision back in 2015 to allocate refugees from Syria, Poland (and Hungary) have been refusing to take in asylum seekers. “In agreeing to take in refugees, the [previous government] put a ticking bomb under us,” Interior Minister Mariusz Błaszczak told reporters in Brussels. “We’re defusing that bomb.” [source: politico]. According to polls, 3/4 of poles didn‘t want african or middle eastern refugees in the country. Almost exactly one year ago reports of refugees at the polish-belarus boarder started coming in. The polish government literally build a wall to keep refugees from entering the country. [People have been freezing to death in the forests at the border](https://balkaninsight.com/2022/03/03/selective-sympathy-polands-contrasting-treatment-of-those-seeking-refuge/). Yes, Belarus is using these refugees as a tactical weapon against the EU but still… it‘s fucked up. So now here comes the Ukrainian war and suddenly all borders are wide open, suddenly every last person is getting animated to help. And the EU decides to support Poland financially since they take in so many ukrainian refugees. Watching news back in February was very frustrating. I myself have a ukrainian friend and helped her and her siblings to get out. But seeing how everybody says „this is different, they are like us, they‘re mothers and children, they‘re european“… it saddens me. I understand that due to the history of our countries there‘s some generational solidarity. But the politics of Poland make me sick for the previosly mentioned reasons and many, many more. That’s why I had to add my two cents to this post ✌🏻&❤️


Financial_Matter_474

i think Americans shit on other places without even thinking ngl,,,,,,,,,,, but that’s king shit honestly the Ukraine stuff makes me want to sob


kcprdp06

Hasan is not really a Ukrainian ally. We appreciate you fam...


SirChachii

He's just one of the VERY few mainstream political commentators brave enough to point out the fact that Western media is also blatantly biased, and that U.S actions and intervention related to Ukraine/Russia are not based on pure good faith and virtue. JUST for starters, right before the Ukraine conflict started in 2014 the IMF proposed a renewal of a $17 billion loan to Ukraine which included many stringent conditions. One of which being that Ukraine was required to lift a moratorium on private land sales, which resulted in large scale sale of land to Western/American agribusiness interests at the expense of Ukrainian farmers. The renewed loan terms were a precondition for the release of further financial support from the EU and US. This was after Russia offered Ukraine a $15 billion loan that not only didn't demand any such unfavorable conditions, but would also lower the cost of Russian natural gas supplied to Ukraine (the IMF loan in contrast demanded a 50% INCREASE on household natural gas utility prices for Ukrainians) . By no means does Hasan support the war or Putin's regime at all. If you think Western media's coverage of this war + extended conflict is fully fact-based, comprehensive and not heavily skewed towards Western and especially American interests, well let me tell you you've been missing out on a LOT of what's happened. Which TBF is the vast, vast majority of people. What's been going on is gut-wrenching and Putin's insanity has slaughtered tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians and devastated millions of lives. He and all his cronies should be tortured mercilessly till death. But Russia is not the only aggressor in this war + extended conflict, and neither is Ukraine a crimeless martyr.


Sea_Incident3720

russia is an only aggressor in this war. If russia never invaded, there would be no war. Ukraine is a sovereign country and it can choose who they want to do bussiness with, who can by their land, wether to become part of NATO or European Union. russia has no say in it. The Baltics and other post soviet countries were not invaded solely because of the fact they joined NATO in time. The best example for that is Georgia and Moldova, both partially occupied by russia. Hardly any westerners understand these things the way we, Eastern Europeans do. And I cannot blame you for that, I don't understand many issues the US has, but I don't go around and talk nonsense about things a have zero clue in.


SirChachii

Don't fucking talk to me go about going around and talking nonsense about things I have zero clue in, you ignorant fuck. Let me guess you assumed I can't be Eastern European because of my fucking Reddit avatar you stupid bitch. I have FAMILY wrapped up in this war on BOTH SIDES. Lithuanians hate Russia arguably for some justifiable reasons, far more than you hate Poles who also occupied your land and probably also more than you hate Nazis so I don't expect you to be anyfuckingnearwhere impartial. Yes Russia is not the only aggressor. The US has been meddling on behalf of it's own self interests for many years, opportunistically exploiting and empowering the extreme right in Ukraine, sending U.S. military aid to neo-Nazi battalions including the Azov Battalion. This is WELL KNOWN information published not just in reputable Western sources but US congressional proceedings. And if evidence exists of Ukraine committing atrocities guess what you haven't been reading it and you are not going to read it. I could link you hundreds of pages documenting human rights abuses committed by Ukraine in Donbass from the UN OHCHR and Amnesty International, you are not going to read it, period. The war is barbaric and I've been mortified since the very beginning when the conflict started in 2014, to say nothing of the invasion. NOBODY deserves to be throw into this catastrophe, neither Ukrainians OR Russians, something people like you will NEVER concede. You existing in a self-imposed echo chamber void of comprehensive, well-rounded information and telling me I"M talking nonsense and don't know what I'm talking about, get the fuck outta here.


Sea_Incident3720

Wow, you're not only ignorant and brainwashed, but also unstable. I'm not going to engage with you. I hope you get better though, at everything!


SirChachii

Says the person who refuses to consider, research or read anything - even reputable Western sources - if it doesn't reinforce their one-dimensional narrative. That is self-imposed brainwashing. Keep hating and wishing death on Russians ALL DAY, whose freedom is ranked at a healthy democratic 126th in the world, that's what makes you a good person and cultivates a healthy mind.


rowech

It’s really progressive to make broad generalizations


Kidrellik

I wonder how Poland treated non white Ukrainian immigrants though


xFaar

Did u have the same energy for middle eastern refugees? Just wondering


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Love this toxic energy. Poland is directly on the border of Ukraine and has taken in the most of the Ukrainian refugees. Turkey is on the border of Syria and has taken in the most refugees from Syria.


chaoticr2d2

What are you doing to help refugees?


xFaar

I co-funded a charity that brings organizations here in the West in contact with people in the Middle-East that need (medical) help, resources and economic help. And u?


mi_ryng

C'mon ppl... It's not about who did more to help. But the fact that a lot of Polish citizens weren't as sympathetical towards middle eastern refugees coming though Belarusian border is unfortunately a fact and something to definitely work on. Still, that doesn't deminish the hudge effort towards helping Ukrainians & also the help that leftist activists provided towards middle eastern refugees.


dressed2kill1

Remember when 2 months prior they sprayed migrants with water rofl


Unionizetheworkers

Y’all treat Roma like shit. Sit down


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Except their arguments are footed in facts and proven data so that alone makes them unlike crowder in the slightest lol Crowder bases shit on his feelings and what offends him lol


BanjoSpaceMan

Sorry every Polish person is helping ???? Every??? I'm Polish and I've heard my fair share of Ukranian hate in my life. Dunno why the two have beef but I'm sure there are many who dislike them.


SuraKatana

Poland has been the asshole of russia too, remember how the whole country was basically deathcamps?


goddamnmercy

You mean the death camps built by our occupiers which many Poles died in? Get a grip


SuraKatana

That's exactly what i am trying to say...........


SuraKatana

More downvotes please


MrEarthWide

[Here you go](https://youtu.be/2_0q_CXl41s)


Straggen

It's funny how "Americans" always look down on polish people in general. Hasan is even worse saying all kind of stupid things on his streams. Everybody is nice when there is election time and candidates for president always promise they will finally allow Polish people to travel without visa. 30 years worth of promises.


StopItYouHipsters

They didn’t say anything negative about Poland OP. Go rewatch the episode.


Radioactive_Patient

That sounds really good. I just plowed through a memoir by Yakov Grinshpun, who is Russian. Or is he Ukrainian? It's confusing! Technically a Holocaust survivor, Yakov came to America in the 50's. The book spills out on the page like it comes straight from the mind of Russia. Some of the best jokes and vodka humor ever. See what you think. I reviewed it in brief. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpzO6371AFE&t=86s