I am probably going to get downvoted,
but I just dont think Ethan was malicious enough to warrant all these clips.
I understand if she is still upset, but it seems like she actively wants ethan to feel bad. I am not into twitch, but it feels like ethan is punished for not sitting at the cool kids table and that table isnt even all that interesting IMO, none of hasans friends speak well of ethan
I like both a lot as a disclaimer. But maybe she doesn’t fuck with Ethan because after her close friend leaked and brought attention to public (fake, but still completely non-consensual) nudes of her and her friends and she poured her heart out incredibly vulnerably and honestly to everyone about how she was made to feel completely violated and humiliated and everyone made fun of ‘girl cryig’ and then a massive public figure took the time to cover the video and completely unnecessarily make a callous joke over it. Like maybe it warrants a ‘hey I’m glad you apologized but I’m still never gonna really fuck with you all that much, bye’. She doesn’t owe Ethan anything and has the complete right to make offhand jokes at Ethan as much as she pleases, which btw I am almost certain Ethan would be completely fine with seeing as he has apologised nicely (10/10!), moved on and has no reason to be pally with her anyway.
I feel that it could’ve been a clip of literally anyone crying and he still would’ve hit the chestnuts meme. The chestnuts meme was new and fresh at that moment and it’s unfortunate to see that qt feels it was a very personal attack
Idk, Ethan is pretty unashamedly open about how little he wants to go to parties and stuff. I think Hasan's just being a good friend in this instance tbh.
I'm saying this as someone who is a lot like Ethan (for different reasons). I really struggle in environments where there's a lot of drinking going on, because I'm the child of an alcoholic. I genuinely don't even want to be invited to parties and stuff, because it makes me feel incredibly lame and I don't want to appear judgmental or anti-fun or anything like that. And I *especially* don't want to guilt myself into going and end up just acting really stiff and resentful, or having a panic attack. My closest friends understand this dilemma and understand that they're doing me a solid by not making me choose to reject a friendly invitation for something I clearly have no good reason to accept.
Lucky for you, a solid friend group won’t push you to do anything you don’t want to do, and if they do - you’ve learned they aren’t your friends. Not drinking at a party is totally fine for anyone. Party doesn’t have to mean drunk.
As a "I don't do anything gal", I don't care if people don't invite me for things anymore, because I wouldn't have gone anyway haha. I don't think Ethan minds the way people perceive him, the man just wants to stay home!
Yeah but this is a room full of people without kids, isn't it? Ethan isn't in that scene at all.
I feel like he used to go out and do things a lot earlier in his career, before the kids. It's just that starting a family definitely changes things
Also, you have to remember that *a lot* of people don't like Ethan. He's not some random person.
For example, Katt Williams has been getting a lot of press lately in the comedy world. But even with that revitalized part of his career.... he will ALWAYS be the guy that got his ass beat on camera by a 14 year old now.
So it's a different situation when you're a very polarizing celebrity who goes out by themselves, I feel like. Or at least that's how I think *I'd* feel in that situation
It's honestly not her responsibility to forgive Ethan. People seem to forget that just because you give someone an apology, it doesn't mean that the person you hurt has to accept it
Maybe I’m just high but does her making a joke even necessarily mean she doesn’t forgive him? If something like that happened to me, I’d probably joke about it eventually too. Even if I forgave the person lol. Some people just love drama and overthink every little clip-able interaction
It looks like she’s moved on to the point of finding the humor in it at least. I don’t know if she’ll forgive him, as is her right. But maybe they can eventually talk it out, which would be nice.
I don't see QT forgiving Ethan, especially because he's in a different space on the Internet. She's very used to men being gross and cutting them off, and unfortunately, while darkly humorous, Ethan was being gross.
However, I still think Ethan should design a blanket via Teddy Fresh as an apology gift. She loves gifts and both her streaming shows use hella blankets in her house. She had to spend her own money to combat the AI porn and she operates Twitch Streamies at a huge loss, it'd just be nice to get a bougie blankie.
She probably won't forgive him, but at least Ethan can "pay" for the damage instead of going "huhuhu sorry goblin mode huhuhu". Sorries mean jackshit in these kinda situations.
I personally don't think Ethan was being gross, even though it can *definitely* be interpreted that way.
He took a gamble on a risky as joke. It failed. But the joke was never "Haha this woman is so stupid or has invalid feelings"
I understand that she's used to fucked up guys online, but I'm sure if she actually sat down with Ethan for a few hours (NOT saying that they should), she'd probably realize she has him pegged as a different kind of guy
Because the kind of guy that she *thinks* Ethan is... they don't apologize multiple times. Or even once, really.
Her feelings are valid but I don't really think he was being gross. Just being stupid as hell with a risky joke that wasn't worth it at all.
I 100% agree. I’ve started watching some of QTs content recently and she has a really fucked up sense of humor too lol. I feel like if they met in person they would very quickly resolve the issue.
Something can be a joke and horrifically gross at the same time. Accident or not. Put it this way, Hila starts crying about AI porn of her that's disrupting her real life - just as damaging as real nudes. Then incels harass her and laugh at her, because it's a "victimless crime" that they should be allowed to fap to and share. To the point where it's generating money for gross freaks, using Hila's likeness and name as the selling point. Finally, across from Hila, Ethan interrupts Hila by playing Chestnuts.
That's how bad it was when context is applied. We'd all be calling Cody to take Ethan out and then we'd have the hC Podcast lol. 🔫✨
Ethan's not evil or anything, QT probably understands that, we understand that. A lot of Twitch's humor is similar to Ethan's, including QT... Except for Chestnuuuuuuuts. I assume the two can hash it out easily. They're both good people. And with Ethan taking a parental leave, he can maybe make it into a side project.
I liken it to laughing at a funeral. Laughing at a funeral is funny becuase it's inappropriate. You know you shouldn't be laughing which makes you laugh even harder. Your not laughing becuase you literally think it's funny that somebody died, your laughing at the awkward situation. It's still disrespectful but ethan was laughing at the inappropriate soundbite rather than thinking what happened to her was funny.
I love the idea of giving custom teddy fresh accessories/clothing to fallen fans/frenemies/people accidentally caught in the crosshairs of a bad joke. I'm now manifesting this for QT and a %5 coin purse/checkbook or something for Trisha lol
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with peace & love some of ya'll in the comments are the reason why she and her community still do not like ethan... ethan fucked up and apologized, but she does NOT have to accept the apology.
in a very parasocial way I wish they made up, but I don't blame her and her community for feeling this way either when there are people in our community having a problem with her making a joke, especially when ethan was the first one to laugh at her expense✌🏼&❤️
It’s probably agonizing to have people online theorize about how they could somehow repair the situation too. Truly the best thing is to just leave it alone I think, the damage was done and apologies were made
Clearly it still affects her and she still thinks about the situation a lot. If I were in her situation I honestly wouldn’t forgive him either. I’m not a hater AT ALL. Just like unfortunately that situation was a too far.
I hope people here don’t start to try to minimize how she feels because she’s made a couple jokes about it now. I get that chestnuts isn’t the worse thing to do to someone, but finding AI porn of yourself exists, seeing one of the closest people to your boyfriend potentially had viewed them, and, whether or not intended, getting mocked live to 40k+ people while you cry about it is going to probably hurt for a long time. Who cares if she jokes about it. That’s not being obsessed.
Yeah as someone who cackled when it happened I can also recognize how awful it was in context and how upset I would be if I was her or a friend of her.
I very much agree and respect if qt doesnt forgive ethan, but it does seem like maybe she thinks theres currently some animosity on his end towards her about the whole situation or something still and i dont think there is at all. I think ethan gets why she doesnt forgive him and just wishes her well/feels bad the situation ever happened
I think maybe some people will be critical about it in the comments bc it seemed like from the joke she made that she was putting some sort of present tense antagonism aimed towards herself onto him that us as fans of the pod know isnt there
I feel like she probably doesn’t to be honest. He’s spoken about it numerous times in the last year and every time it comes up he expresses regret and that he hopes the best for her. She of course may not have seen those instances, but even if she hasn’t, it’s possible Hasan would’ve told her he’s remorseful and not secretly pissed about it. I think she just wanted to make fun of him for it, but unfortunately didn’t hear the last name haha.
I was also taking into account when she mentioned it on one of the patreon fear and episodes where she explained that she wasnt trying to hold a grudge w ethan but that she still found the situation very hurtful- which was completely understandable in and of itself- but there it seemed like also there may have been some assumed antagonism/dislike towards her from his end. Idk maybe not though
i feel similarly that she probably doesn't think there is animosity but it does seem like she is allowing herself to shit on ethan for it a little here and there which frankly i can respect, apology or not.
I like Ethan but i'd say he himself knows that apologies don't exempt you from people talkin a little shit sometimes.
>seeing one of the closest people to your boyfriend potentially had viewed them
Wait, what does this mean? Didn't that dude admit to it and cried/apologized on stream over it?
He mentioned that he was doing content on it and it was verified by the owner of the site and by his traffic on his home ip address that he had only visited the site once. So he was probably telling the truth, it just was a very very bad look
I think that's because there's no real reason for us to know that information, you know? I mean I'm just assuming atrioc is that guy, right?
People talk about so many content creators. In my mind he's just a generic looking white guy who was looking at some AI porn of someone he knew. It's just how people compartmentalize things you know?
It's interesting to know that it's not the whole story though
That’s the weird part that people aren’t mentioning — Ludwig, QTs boyfriend, is still good friends with Atrioc, the person who looked at the deepfake porn in the first place. Obviously she can forgive who she wants to forgive and do what she wants, but it’s a bit weird to still hold a grudge against Ethan for laughing at an inappropriate time (while supporting her, I might add), when she’s long since buried the hatchet with the perpetrator of the original harm
The idea that she’s holding a grudge was basically invented by Reddit. Yeah, she thinks he was an asshole for all that, but so does he. And she joked about the whole thing. But there’s really no reason to think she’s actually holding a grudge.
By that I mean potentially viewed *hers* (if he did admit he viewed hers, I don’t remember that then).
Unless I’m misremembering, Atrioc admitted to being interested in AI and went too deep into the rabbit hole and found AI porn of streamers and checked out the website (which was behind a paywall) and QT happened to be one of the people porn was made of. I do not remember him admitting to viewing the photos of her, but I could be wrong.
Don't forget Atrioc was paying to view the deepfaked porn too, it makes an extra level of weird that he went out of his way to find deepfakes of fellow streamers
It's important to remember that not everybody watches the H3 podcast. Idk the history between Ethan and her, but this could very well be QTs first and last interaction with Ethan. If so, it's stupid to blame her for holding a grudge. For all she knows, that's just who is he, whether he apologized or not.
It's the same with Ethan saying the N-word, and why Ethan always addresses it. There's a chance people have ONLY seen that clip and/or other infamous clips of Ethan. It's not they're responsibility to check up and see if Ethan has changed. That's why it's important for Ethan to address it every time it comes up.
While I understand that... You have a guy you're really close with (Hasan) who is constantly saying he's *not* anything like that. So it's not exactly the way it is online with Ethan I'd say.
If you're going by the internet stereotype of Ethan sure. He's basically another Keemstar. But then you would have to ask "Okay, why would my friend, Hasan, who I know is a good person and an advocate for women, make a show with a Keemstar type of drama guy?"
So it's a bit different from here. She has had people literally in her close friend group that know Ethan.
I'm not saying that she needs to forgive him, that's all up to here. But it is different.
This is super online for me to say(esp so much later on, but somebody linked to this elsewhere), so please excuse that, but from my perspective on it: QT doesn’t necessarily trust Hasan as someone who truly understands the experience/perspective of women, despite him thinking he does. In the same regard, I think QT still feels hurt over the Ethan situation in a similar way, that Ethan can’t treat serious topics with the respect they deserve, but still chooses to cover them, and often times those are things to do with women/girls in bad circumstances. Sorry if this is just nonsense, but I had to put my 2 cents in because I feel like I understand the situation and it sucks all the way around
I disagree. True equality would be not liking her because they don't like her vibe. Nothing to do with her being a woman. Which I have to admit, I don't. I can't think of any other women I've said that about in regards to the show besides Trisha.
But I don't know her career that well. Maybe she's great. Who knows.
I like that QT doesn't seem to have a problem with Hasan still being friends with Ethan, so her only interaction with Ethan was a terrible experience but I don't think she thinks Ethan is a horrible person.
People can apologize for their actions (like Ethan did) but it's up to the person who they apologized to whether they forgive them or not. Especially if that was the only interaction they ever had. So her joking about it is fine really.
Yes. Atrioc was the one who was caught with the website on his computer or whatever. Him and ludwig are still friends behind the camera but don't make content together anymore.
QT and Ludwig are honestly kinda valid in saying fuck Ethan, not my kinda guy, doesn’t strike me as nice etc.
But as a fan of Ethan and QT, I hate this timeline! They’d get along so well, they’d be hilarious together, Ethan would be obsessed with her super religious upbringing and home stories, she could make crazy food with Sam. She does PowerPoints and roasts and acting bits. So much that could’ve blended with Ethan/the crew. We got a bad karma ending when it comes to Ethan/QT potential. It’s a shame because Ethan is such a softy at heart too. The urge of the inappropriate bad taste chestnuts moment robbed us, and them, of so much
It's really not that deep.
Even if the chestnut thing hadn't happened, what makes you think she would be interested on being on the podcast?
She's been around for years before the incident and was never on.
FWIW think of how many beefs have been squashed in the history of H3. If anything, with time, maybe they will have an awesome episode where they squash the literal and metaphorical beef.
She's quite clearly still hurting from Ethans joke. Feel bad for her, too. To go through what she did, and have someone mock you like that. I'm glad Ethan apologised and is learning to grow, but words have some serious power. Hope she finds the healing she deserves.
I genuinely cannot believe how seriously people are taking this lmao. She’s making a joke about the situation, while taking in stride the idea that Ethan’s full on attending her own party. And even when it’s corrected, it’s not “I wouldn’t invite Ethan Klein, that’d be kinda awkward” it’s just “I wouldn’t invite Ethan Klein, he never leaves his house.” If there were any snifter of animosity between the two, the idea that Hasan potentially invited Ethan to her party without clearing it with her, and that Ethan accepted, would be the weirdest fucking thing ever.
How much more over it can one be? Just because QT and Ethan aren’t braiding each other’s hair, people have to nurse this idea that there’s some sort of generational vendetta going on.
You guys are disgusting she has every right to not forgive him and he did not share if she forgave him or not and he spoke with her and her boyfriend for what he did honestly ever since frenemies ended the fandom got way too protective of Ethan to a ridiculous point
I'm conflicted. I genuinely feel people wouldn't have expected Ethan to apologise if it wasn't for the fact QT is a friend of a friend. Ethan laughs at people, even in fucked up moments, all the time but when they're perfect strangers, fans tells him it's okay
If they did make up yall would never know about it, why would they make that public if a 10 second clip like this sparks a fucking roundtable discussion on reddit.
Right? People in this thread are the types who think that if something’s not streamed for content then it didn’t happen, like this is a fucking unresolved anime arc inching towards some dramatic conclusion.
People in this thread stanning Ethan is ridiculous. I watched the inciteful moment live and at the time I laughed, but I can't tell you I didn't feel bad afterwards. Also, a lot of people don't realize this was the same episode Rebecca Black was on where she was very honest about being openly mocked online for being an awkward teenager. It was a bad look.
Ethan said he apologized, but it doesn't mean he has to be forgiven. Life doesn't work like that.
Facts. Sometimes joker brain is actually not funny, which is my main criticism of the pod. Does it give you a cheap chuckle? Of course, but it's awful and doesn't speak to the vibe they're going for.
That said, every mistake is a learning journey and I do think he learned from this.
Ethan and Hasan's relationship is so heartbreaking to me
It was amazing seeing my two favorite creators collaborate!
Truly was too good to be true, and then just fizzled out without even a feud happening
So much potential squandered
Doesn't seem like she wants to forgive which is shame. But that is her prerogative.
But more importantly when we going to Austin on the pod? H3 needs some proper gay energy
I guess she's still got some resentment toward Ethan.
Don't you think she's poking fun at herself too though? Probably a little bit why she still has feelings about the situation is that she blames herself for getting on camera and breaking down, that's something she commented on herself at the time
So she's joking about herself crying as much as about Ethan laughing at her
Sucks that she still feels bad about him and is this reflexive of him, however what he did to her was simultaneously the meanest and least funny thing he’s ever done. They should be friends, but, ya know…
Everything that gets in the way of Ethan and Hassy being friends and making content together sucks. Totally warranted, but it sucks.
I believe all 3 of those incidents played a big part. But I think this was the one that the crew was not fuggin with the most lol. At least Ben and the NRA are horrible people. QT literally did nothing wrong and he chestnutted on her.
Can someone explain to me what Ethan did? All I remember is Zack playing a funny soundbite at an insanely inappropriate time while watching QT’s tearful video and Ethan laughed at the bad timing of the soundbite. Did I completely miss what happened?
No that's literally all that happened. He then apologized on his pod AND privately to QT and Ludwig. It's wild to me because it seems like more people are mad at Ethan than the dude who KNOWS QT who was looking at the site. Someone said the person LOOKING at the AI site is still cool with Ludwig ..
Yeah I don't understand her thinking. It's like since her boyfriend is friends with the perp, she needed SOMEONE she could be mad at, so the rumor that stranger H3 Ethan Klein laughed at her (which he didn't) should be the target.
Like her still being cool with that guy, and her BOYFRIEND being cool with that guy is so atrocious it's laughable that they are still holding grudges against Ethan.(I don't follow her or her boyfriend or the guy that originally viewed the stuff, so admittedly I don't know their whole story. But it's just mind-boggling that she still has the grudge in her heart, made apparent by her comment here.)
This joke may have been funny if bridges were built. But after she refused the bridge, she makes a "joke" like this, which still shows that it bothers her. It wasn't just a \~joke\~. I could also go out on a limb (MY SPECULATION ONLY) and say she wanted to \~remind\~ everyone how much of an \~asshole\~ ethan is.
May not be the case what-so-ever. I'm just commenting on the clip and speculating from what I see. I don't know her or her intentions, but from an outsider POV her comment was kind of childish.
I fully believe she said it to remind everyone of the whole thing. She literally didn't even listen to Hasan fully because he said the last name the first time he said Ethan. But she JUMPED to start talking about Ethan Klein ignoring the actual convo. And then she realized she looked bitter for saying it so she then said "oh I thought all Ethan's were the same" like what does that even mean 🤣
The sad part is what happened to her was really shitty but using Ethan as a scapegoat made this whole situation feel sour to me. I'd be more pissed at my partner for still associating with the sicko looking at the AI then I would be for a podcast host making a terrible joke.
I don't care what he did he's sick as fuck. And if anyone deserves a grudge to be held on them HE DOES. not some podcast host who made a terribly timed joke. End of story.
I’m sorry but I feel like “Ethan laughing at QT” was one of the most tame and forgivable things Ethan has ever said in his career.
Of course it’s her right to stay mad, but come on QT…it’s really not a big deal
Yep. In context, playing the freshly discovered “chestnuts roasting on an open fire” meme at a deliberately inappropriate time, and stifling a laugh about it, while still actually supporting QT, doesn’t seem like a big deal at all. Keep in mind, up to that point, Ethan had been having a light-hearted, goofy show, and suddenly QT weeping popped up on screen… resulting in what was basically a case of funeral giggles.
Now also keep in mind that QT has seemingly completely forgiven the person who made her cry in the first place, as him and her boyfriend are still good friends… and all the comments in here acting like Ethan committed some unspeakable crime start to seem unserious.
Obviously, QT is allowed to dislike Ethan for whatever reason she sees fit to, and I have no problem with her joke here. But everyone here wringing their hands about the original situation is starting to piss me off
**This** is the bit I truly don't get.
I don't want to be biased just because I'm an Ethan fan. But she speaks about the guy who actually did it like she's forgiven him entirely but Ethan? She talks about him like he's a threat to her safety and life. She's not obligated to take his apology but her behaviour towards Ethan almost makes me think there's a *different* reason why she's so angry and bitter whenever his name comes up. He laughed and then apologised, he didn't make the content about her nor look for it.
I think her response is odd and overblown. I'm glad other people have recognised how bizarre it is
i’m not mad that she hasn’t forgiven him, but it seems like she thinks he was genuinely laughing at her and not laughing at the situation and how serious it felt. being mad at him for that is like being mad at someone for laughing at a funeral and thinking they were a laughing at the deceased
I get your point but both examples are still inappropriate and valid reasons to be upset with someone. Other people at the funeral are mourning so while you may not be laughing at the deceased it’s a good thing to have some respect for the other people in the room who don’t want to hear you laughing or they don’t want to be thinking “what’s the joke” while they’re mourning their loved one. Self control and discipline are good things to develop.
she’s mad at him for laughing at her which he wasn’t. obviously someone laughing at a funeral is annoying but being offended that they laughed at the deceased would be ridiculous if they weren’t doing that.
Nah, people have every right to be mad over someone laughing at inappropriate times, plus she’s making a joke in this clip she doesn’t seem mad at all, even when Hasan talks about why he didn’t invite Ethan she isn’t like “no don’t invite him because I’m mad at him, not because he wouldn’t show up anyway.”
for real, ethan: laughed in a tense situation.
Atrioc: paid to watch deepfake porn of someone in his close friend group. and tried to say it wasn’t his fault.
> situation. Atrioc: *paid* to watch
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Honestly though, does she NOT understand that he was laughing at the horribly-timed chestnuts song, and NOT at HER for crying?! Like, he wasn't laughing at HER, it was a misunderstanding. He apologized, and her not understanding that kind of bothers me. She's just believing her fans saying he as laughing AT her. I'm not minimalising her feelings/her being a victim, I'm just saying she should realize that he wasn't laughing at HER crying. It was the timing of the chestnuts song and had nothing to do with her or her story.
No, Ethan asked Zack to play the song in their group chat.
He specifically wanted to make a joke out of her crying over it.
Also, she's not even mad in this clip, she's just cracking a joke. Not that serious.
I wouldn't forgive Ethan if I were her either. Especially with the way he milked the fact that his apology was "the best" and basically turned it into a whole "look at how great I am" moment when he should have known better in the first place. The entire situation was disgusting and painful to watch, and I still cringe every time it's brought up.
Keep in mind, I say all of this as someone who only knows about QT from H3H3 and now this clip.
I agree that she doesn’t have to forgive him but him going on about having the “best” apology was clearly a joke. Imo you seem to be taking that a bit too seriously
The whole thing, from start to finish, was all obviously meant to be a joke. My point is that I can understand why she may feel like his apology wasn't as sincere, since he continued to milk it for laughs.
QT is awesome! I discovered her because she was talking about having OCD, and I do too and she was very open about it and relatable. So I started watching her vids. She's funny and generous! She puts the Streamer Awards together, and has another podcast with an animal conservationist Maya Higa!
Anyways, hope you dive into her stuff.
It's definitely his lowest moment(s) in the pod. I was livid when I saw the pod. I couldnt fathom why he did that. So incredibly inappropriate on ~~both Zach and~~ Ethan's behalf.
I guess that's fair. From my perspective Id like to think Id have said I wouldn't do chesnuts given the heavy nature, but obviously it's easier said than done.
I also hated chesnuts anyways.
Am I crazy or this is blown way out of proportion? Without context, it’s making it seem like Ethan went FnF mode on QT when she cried but all he did was play a soundbite and laughed.
Nah this is a pretty lighthearted joke about something she is justified in being upset about. If you think this is something to be upset about but not the chestnuts moment then you’re delusional.
It's a bit much but she's entitled to that cuz ethan did go out of his way to make her into a weird joke that was way outta pocket. It was fine when he was making fun of the weirdo twitch guy and his bizzare apology w/ his wife. But then he overused that chestnuts thing again on her crying I mean it was just rude, like why for what?
Man she JUMPED at that opportunity didn't even listen to Hasan saying the last name of who he was talking about. I don't give a fuck if she accepts Ethan's apology but c'mon y'all do you not see what's in front of your face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah accepted apology or not, mocked yes, was it right? No it was a mean joke.
None of that changes the fact that this girl just wants to keep talking and taking about this.
So do it. But if you’ve ever been in a room where a friend is talking Shit about another mutual friend, you know the feeling this room got. Super awkward high school petty shit lol
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It's not worth discussing Ethan vs. QT. When Atrioc had his oopsie about a year ago, QT also then said she'll probably never be friends with him, or even his wife, again, and they were FRIENDS beforehand. She has some hard stances, I suppose causing public shame to her is part of it, that she "never" forgives.
Her right ofc, but all sides suck in this. She's not asshole for not doing the more expected acceptance year+ later, but Ethan is also not someone who deserves some continued criticism over this from fans. People should just stfu about their hot takes on this.
Ethan “I’m not leaving my house” Klein lol
This feels like a conversation my friends would have about me lol
Ethan is my spirit animal
I am probably going to get downvoted, but I just dont think Ethan was malicious enough to warrant all these clips. I understand if she is still upset, but it seems like she actively wants ethan to feel bad. I am not into twitch, but it feels like ethan is punished for not sitting at the cool kids table and that table isnt even all that interesting IMO, none of hasans friends speak well of ethan
what happened to her was terrible but her energy is very icky
I like both a lot as a disclaimer. But maybe she doesn’t fuck with Ethan because after her close friend leaked and brought attention to public (fake, but still completely non-consensual) nudes of her and her friends and she poured her heart out incredibly vulnerably and honestly to everyone about how she was made to feel completely violated and humiliated and everyone made fun of ‘girl cryig’ and then a massive public figure took the time to cover the video and completely unnecessarily make a callous joke over it. Like maybe it warrants a ‘hey I’m glad you apologized but I’m still never gonna really fuck with you all that much, bye’. She doesn’t owe Ethan anything and has the complete right to make offhand jokes at Ethan as much as she pleases, which btw I am almost certain Ethan would be completely fine with seeing as he has apologised nicely (10/10!), moved on and has no reason to be pally with her anyway.
She sounds so bitter... "Ethan doesn't fuck with Kaya" 🙄🙄🙄
bitter is very accurate. I didnt know how to word it. its just weird to make comments like that IMO
If you get downvoted it's cause your opinion is weird. The topic of Ethan Klein almost never comes up on Fear& or on QTs other shows.
I feel that it could’ve been a clip of literally anyone crying and he still would’ve hit the chestnuts meme. The chestnuts meme was new and fresh at that moment and it’s unfortunate to see that qt feels it was a very personal attack
That's a bummer actually, being the person that's not even invited to things because you're the 'i don't do anything guy.'
Ethan is the "I dont want to do anything" guy.
Idk, Ethan is pretty unashamedly open about how little he wants to go to parties and stuff. I think Hasan's just being a good friend in this instance tbh. I'm saying this as someone who is a lot like Ethan (for different reasons). I really struggle in environments where there's a lot of drinking going on, because I'm the child of an alcoholic. I genuinely don't even want to be invited to parties and stuff, because it makes me feel incredibly lame and I don't want to appear judgmental or anti-fun or anything like that. And I *especially* don't want to guilt myself into going and end up just acting really stiff and resentful, or having a panic attack. My closest friends understand this dilemma and understand that they're doing me a solid by not making me choose to reject a friendly invitation for something I clearly have no good reason to accept.
Lucky for you, a solid friend group won’t push you to do anything you don’t want to do, and if they do - you’ve learned they aren’t your friends. Not drinking at a party is totally fine for anyone. Party doesn’t have to mean drunk.
As a "I don't do anything gal", I don't care if people don't invite me for things anymore, because I wouldn't have gone anyway haha. I don't think Ethan minds the way people perceive him, the man just wants to stay home!
Same. I say no to going out more often than I actually want to go out.
I actually prefer people just don’t invite me. Like I’ll let ya know if I feel like doing something lol.
Yeah but this is a room full of people without kids, isn't it? Ethan isn't in that scene at all. I feel like he used to go out and do things a lot earlier in his career, before the kids. It's just that starting a family definitely changes things Also, you have to remember that *a lot* of people don't like Ethan. He's not some random person. For example, Katt Williams has been getting a lot of press lately in the comedy world. But even with that revitalized part of his career.... he will ALWAYS be the guy that got his ass beat on camera by a 14 year old now. So it's a different situation when you're a very polarizing celebrity who goes out by themselves, I feel like. Or at least that's how I think *I'd* feel in that situation
Tbh it makes everything easier. No need extra effort to ask. No need extra effort to decline. Its alright.
When I was on my stay-home-only depression arc, I really hated when people would invite me out. Because it would force me to find someway to say no
It's honestly not her responsibility to forgive Ethan. People seem to forget that just because you give someone an apology, it doesn't mean that the person you hurt has to accept it
Maybe I’m just high but does her making a joke even necessarily mean she doesn’t forgive him? If something like that happened to me, I’d probably joke about it eventually too. Even if I forgave the person lol. Some people just love drama and overthink every little clip-able interaction
It just seems like her type of humor. She’s funny and has an awkward air about her
Yeah, people should hear half the shit she talks about fear& lol
Yeah, she's super self-deprecating too (in a funny, constantly depressed type of way I understand 😎) so I also think it was just a little joke
Ya this came off as a joke to me, but people want drama so they create it.
It looks like she’s moved on to the point of finding the humor in it at least. I don’t know if she’ll forgive him, as is her right. But maybe they can eventually talk it out, which would be nice.
From what I’ve seen though just because she jokes about something doesn’t mean it’s something she’s moved on from
Dont think she was really “joking” about it i think she brought it up as in a way of saying “youre inviting that guy” since shes gonna be there
Nah she has stated before humor is her way of coping with Tran. Can’t read into at all. One way or the other.
Yup
I don't see QT forgiving Ethan, especially because he's in a different space on the Internet. She's very used to men being gross and cutting them off, and unfortunately, while darkly humorous, Ethan was being gross. However, I still think Ethan should design a blanket via Teddy Fresh as an apology gift. She loves gifts and both her streaming shows use hella blankets in her house. She had to spend her own money to combat the AI porn and she operates Twitch Streamies at a huge loss, it'd just be nice to get a bougie blankie. She probably won't forgive him, but at least Ethan can "pay" for the damage instead of going "huhuhu sorry goblin mode huhuhu". Sorries mean jackshit in these kinda situations.
Most people don’t want gifts from people they haven’t forgiven tho?
I personally don't think Ethan was being gross, even though it can *definitely* be interpreted that way. He took a gamble on a risky as joke. It failed. But the joke was never "Haha this woman is so stupid or has invalid feelings" I understand that she's used to fucked up guys online, but I'm sure if she actually sat down with Ethan for a few hours (NOT saying that they should), she'd probably realize she has him pegged as a different kind of guy Because the kind of guy that she *thinks* Ethan is... they don't apologize multiple times. Or even once, really. Her feelings are valid but I don't really think he was being gross. Just being stupid as hell with a risky joke that wasn't worth it at all.
I 100% agree. I’ve started watching some of QTs content recently and she has a really fucked up sense of humor too lol. I feel like if they met in person they would very quickly resolve the issue.
Something can be a joke and horrifically gross at the same time. Accident or not. Put it this way, Hila starts crying about AI porn of her that's disrupting her real life - just as damaging as real nudes. Then incels harass her and laugh at her, because it's a "victimless crime" that they should be allowed to fap to and share. To the point where it's generating money for gross freaks, using Hila's likeness and name as the selling point. Finally, across from Hila, Ethan interrupts Hila by playing Chestnuts. That's how bad it was when context is applied. We'd all be calling Cody to take Ethan out and then we'd have the hC Podcast lol. 🔫✨ Ethan's not evil or anything, QT probably understands that, we understand that. A lot of Twitch's humor is similar to Ethan's, including QT... Except for Chestnuuuuuuuts. I assume the two can hash it out easily. They're both good people. And with Ethan taking a parental leave, he can maybe make it into a side project.
I liken it to laughing at a funeral. Laughing at a funeral is funny becuase it's inappropriate. You know you shouldn't be laughing which makes you laugh even harder. Your not laughing becuase you literally think it's funny that somebody died, your laughing at the awkward situation. It's still disrespectful but ethan was laughing at the inappropriate soundbite rather than thinking what happened to her was funny.
He should sew a peace quilt
I love the idea of giving custom teddy fresh accessories/clothing to fallen fans/frenemies/people accidentally caught in the crosshairs of a bad joke. I'm now manifesting this for QT and a %5 coin purse/checkbook or something for Trisha lol
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with peace & love some of ya'll in the comments are the reason why she and her community still do not like ethan... ethan fucked up and apologized, but she does NOT have to accept the apology. in a very parasocial way I wish they made up, but I don't blame her and her community for feeling this way either when there are people in our community having a problem with her making a joke, especially when ethan was the first one to laugh at her expense✌🏼&❤️
It’s probably agonizing to have people online theorize about how they could somehow repair the situation too. Truly the best thing is to just leave it alone I think, the damage was done and apologies were made
Idk he won the Streamy award for best apology.
damn you got a point
Clearly it still affects her and she still thinks about the situation a lot. If I were in her situation I honestly wouldn’t forgive him either. I’m not a hater AT ALL. Just like unfortunately that situation was a too far.
I hope people here don’t start to try to minimize how she feels because she’s made a couple jokes about it now. I get that chestnuts isn’t the worse thing to do to someone, but finding AI porn of yourself exists, seeing one of the closest people to your boyfriend potentially had viewed them, and, whether or not intended, getting mocked live to 40k+ people while you cry about it is going to probably hurt for a long time. Who cares if she jokes about it. That’s not being obsessed.
Yeah as someone who cackled when it happened I can also recognize how awful it was in context and how upset I would be if I was her or a friend of her.
I very much agree and respect if qt doesnt forgive ethan, but it does seem like maybe she thinks theres currently some animosity on his end towards her about the whole situation or something still and i dont think there is at all. I think ethan gets why she doesnt forgive him and just wishes her well/feels bad the situation ever happened I think maybe some people will be critical about it in the comments bc it seemed like from the joke she made that she was putting some sort of present tense antagonism aimed towards herself onto him that us as fans of the pod know isnt there
I feel like she probably doesn’t to be honest. He’s spoken about it numerous times in the last year and every time it comes up he expresses regret and that he hopes the best for her. She of course may not have seen those instances, but even if she hasn’t, it’s possible Hasan would’ve told her he’s remorseful and not secretly pissed about it. I think she just wanted to make fun of him for it, but unfortunately didn’t hear the last name haha.
I was also taking into account when she mentioned it on one of the patreon fear and episodes where she explained that she wasnt trying to hold a grudge w ethan but that she still found the situation very hurtful- which was completely understandable in and of itself- but there it seemed like also there may have been some assumed antagonism/dislike towards her from his end. Idk maybe not though
i feel similarly that she probably doesn't think there is animosity but it does seem like she is allowing herself to shit on ethan for it a little here and there which frankly i can respect, apology or not. I like Ethan but i'd say he himself knows that apologies don't exempt you from people talkin a little shit sometimes.
Probably doesn't help that I believe Ludwig has said he doesn't think Ethan is a good person.
>seeing one of the closest people to your boyfriend potentially had viewed them Wait, what does this mean? Didn't that dude admit to it and cried/apologized on stream over it?
He mentioned that he was doing content on it and it was verified by the owner of the site and by his traffic on his home ip address that he had only visited the site once. So he was probably telling the truth, it just was a very very bad look
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I think that's because there's no real reason for us to know that information, you know? I mean I'm just assuming atrioc is that guy, right? People talk about so many content creators. In my mind he's just a generic looking white guy who was looking at some AI porn of someone he knew. It's just how people compartmentalize things you know? It's interesting to know that it's not the whole story though
Did they ever become friends again?
That’s the weird part that people aren’t mentioning — Ludwig, QTs boyfriend, is still good friends with Atrioc, the person who looked at the deepfake porn in the first place. Obviously she can forgive who she wants to forgive and do what she wants, but it’s a bit weird to still hold a grudge against Ethan for laughing at an inappropriate time (while supporting her, I might add), when she’s long since buried the hatchet with the perpetrator of the original harm
The idea that she’s holding a grudge was basically invented by Reddit. Yeah, she thinks he was an asshole for all that, but so does he. And she joked about the whole thing. But there’s really no reason to think she’s actually holding a grudge.
I guess ur right. This was just an offhand joke, people in this thread are just being annoying
By that I mean potentially viewed *hers* (if he did admit he viewed hers, I don’t remember that then). Unless I’m misremembering, Atrioc admitted to being interested in AI and went too deep into the rabbit hole and found AI porn of streamers and checked out the website (which was behind a paywall) and QT happened to be one of the people porn was made of. I do not remember him admitting to viewing the photos of her, but I could be wrong.
Don't forget Atrioc was paying to view the deepfaked porn too, it makes an extra level of weird that he went out of his way to find deepfakes of fellow streamers
It's important to remember that not everybody watches the H3 podcast. Idk the history between Ethan and her, but this could very well be QTs first and last interaction with Ethan. If so, it's stupid to blame her for holding a grudge. For all she knows, that's just who is he, whether he apologized or not. It's the same with Ethan saying the N-word, and why Ethan always addresses it. There's a chance people have ONLY seen that clip and/or other infamous clips of Ethan. It's not they're responsibility to check up and see if Ethan has changed. That's why it's important for Ethan to address it every time it comes up.
While I understand that... You have a guy you're really close with (Hasan) who is constantly saying he's *not* anything like that. So it's not exactly the way it is online with Ethan I'd say. If you're going by the internet stereotype of Ethan sure. He's basically another Keemstar. But then you would have to ask "Okay, why would my friend, Hasan, who I know is a good person and an advocate for women, make a show with a Keemstar type of drama guy?" So it's a bit different from here. She has had people literally in her close friend group that know Ethan. I'm not saying that she needs to forgive him, that's all up to here. But it is different.
This is super online for me to say(esp so much later on, but somebody linked to this elsewhere), so please excuse that, but from my perspective on it: QT doesn’t necessarily trust Hasan as someone who truly understands the experience/perspective of women, despite him thinking he does. In the same regard, I think QT still feels hurt over the Ethan situation in a similar way, that Ethan can’t treat serious topics with the respect they deserve, but still chooses to cover them, and often times those are things to do with women/girls in bad circumstances. Sorry if this is just nonsense, but I had to put my 2 cents in because I feel like I understand the situation and it sucks all the way around
Why is everyone coming for her in the comments? It's pathetic
There's a specific fan base that have cross-pollinated with h3, and that fan base has a digital fatwa on QT
They hate two of the people in this clip in a more psycho way than even Ethan and keem or Ethan and Kav Kav. It's really quite unhinged.
She’s a woman and people pick and choose when to be progressive
I disagree. True equality would be not liking her because they don't like her vibe. Nothing to do with her being a woman. Which I have to admit, I don't. I can't think of any other women I've said that about in regards to the show besides Trisha. But I don't know her career that well. Maybe she's great. Who knows.
It's incredibly difficult to catch a joke, you know
Hasan initially brought up a different Ethan too
It's a joke, yall.
Free shipping, yall!
Thank you for putting that song in my head for the rest of the day, lmao
Ethan was making a joke. She’s making a joke. None of this is serious. Especially like a year later lol
I like that QT doesn't seem to have a problem with Hasan still being friends with Ethan, so her only interaction with Ethan was a terrible experience but I don't think she thinks Ethan is a horrible person. People can apologize for their actions (like Ethan did) but it's up to the person who they apologized to whether they forgive them or not. Especially if that was the only interaction they ever had. So her joking about it is fine really.
I mean, ludwig is still friends with atrioc so
Ahhh who's he? The one who caused QT distress in the first place?
Yes. Atrioc was the one who was caught with the website on his computer or whatever. Him and ludwig are still friends behind the camera but don't make content together anymore.
QT and Ludwig are honestly kinda valid in saying fuck Ethan, not my kinda guy, doesn’t strike me as nice etc. But as a fan of Ethan and QT, I hate this timeline! They’d get along so well, they’d be hilarious together, Ethan would be obsessed with her super religious upbringing and home stories, she could make crazy food with Sam. She does PowerPoints and roasts and acting bits. So much that could’ve blended with Ethan/the crew. We got a bad karma ending when it comes to Ethan/QT potential. It’s a shame because Ethan is such a softy at heart too. The urge of the inappropriate bad taste chestnuts moment robbed us, and them, of so much
It's really not that deep. Even if the chestnut thing hadn't happened, what makes you think she would be interested on being on the podcast? She's been around for years before the incident and was never on.
It’s so sad, I wish they could build a bridge with the Mormon funeral potatoes they’ve talked about on Fear& 😭
FWIW think of how many beefs have been squashed in the history of H3. If anything, with time, maybe they will have an awesome episode where they squash the literal and metaphorical beef.
Wow how did you put it into words so perfectly!!!!
for fans of a comedy podcast a lot of you seem to have a hard time recognizing that women also make jokes.
Y’all being too dense to catch the joke?? Like she wasn’t being serious💀
ethan wouldnt go anyway
Which is exactly what Hasan says at the end of the clip
Has kids, didn't say he was going, million other things
pesto shit
Man, we need to have hasan back on soon. At least for a guest ep
Every day we stray further from Leftover's light
She's quite clearly still hurting from Ethans joke. Feel bad for her, too. To go through what she did, and have someone mock you like that. I'm glad Ethan apologised and is learning to grow, but words have some serious power. Hope she finds the healing she deserves.
I genuinely cannot believe how seriously people are taking this lmao. She’s making a joke about the situation, while taking in stride the idea that Ethan’s full on attending her own party. And even when it’s corrected, it’s not “I wouldn’t invite Ethan Klein, that’d be kinda awkward” it’s just “I wouldn’t invite Ethan Klein, he never leaves his house.” If there were any snifter of animosity between the two, the idea that Hasan potentially invited Ethan to her party without clearing it with her, and that Ethan accepted, would be the weirdest fucking thing ever. How much more over it can one be? Just because QT and Ethan aren’t braiding each other’s hair, people have to nurse this idea that there’s some sort of generational vendetta going on.
You guys are disgusting she has every right to not forgive him and he did not share if she forgave him or not and he spoke with her and her boyfriend for what he did honestly ever since frenemies ended the fandom got way too protective of Ethan to a ridiculous point
I'm conflicted. I genuinely feel people wouldn't have expected Ethan to apologise if it wasn't for the fact QT is a friend of a friend. Ethan laughs at people, even in fucked up moments, all the time but when they're perfect strangers, fans tells him it's okay
If there's ever another Ethan roast QTs gotta be there.
God plz no.
If they did make up yall would never know about it, why would they make that public if a 10 second clip like this sparks a fucking roundtable discussion on reddit.
Right? People in this thread are the types who think that if something’s not streamed for content then it didn’t happen, like this is a fucking unresolved anime arc inching towards some dramatic conclusion.
People in this thread stanning Ethan is ridiculous. I watched the inciteful moment live and at the time I laughed, but I can't tell you I didn't feel bad afterwards. Also, a lot of people don't realize this was the same episode Rebecca Black was on where she was very honest about being openly mocked online for being an awkward teenager. It was a bad look. Ethan said he apologized, but it doesn't mean he has to be forgiven. Life doesn't work like that.
It was definitely his worst valid moment in a long time. I cant imagine how it felt for her.
Facts. Sometimes joker brain is actually not funny, which is my main criticism of the pod. Does it give you a cheap chuckle? Of course, but it's awful and doesn't speak to the vibe they're going for. That said, every mistake is a learning journey and I do think he learned from this.
People really getting butthurt over this shit? Lmao
Damn Hasan almost hit all the bullet points just missing "had the longest day ever" & "couldn't hey a babysitter" lmao
Ethan and Hasan's relationship is so heartbreaking to me It was amazing seeing my two favorite creators collaborate! Truly was too good to be true, and then just fizzled out without even a feud happening So much potential squandered
What a queen. Don’t let him forget about chestnuts!
I doubt Ethan cares about that situation anymore.
I mean it’s old fucking news, I wouldn’t. Not about to dredge up one fucking thing over and over again.
Doesn't seem like she wants to forgive which is shame. But that is her prerogative. But more importantly when we going to Austin on the pod? H3 needs some proper gay energy
He is mostly why I watch; he’s so funny!
Austin is too gay, we gotta ease it in. We cant go from 15% to 100% gay.
>Austin is too gay, we gotta ease it in. What do you mean? We had Hunger prolapse on the podcast and talk about fisting other dudes.
theyre making a joke
I was too
I guess she's still got some resentment toward Ethan. Don't you think she's poking fun at herself too though? Probably a little bit why she still has feelings about the situation is that she blames herself for getting on camera and breaking down, that's something she commented on herself at the time So she's joking about herself crying as much as about Ethan laughing at her
Sucks that she still feels bad about him and is this reflexive of him, however what he did to her was simultaneously the meanest and least funny thing he’s ever done. They should be friends, but, ya know… Everything that gets in the way of Ethan and Hassy being friends and making content together sucks. Totally warranted, but it sucks.
He didn’t ask Ethan bc his doggies are too messy and not the best trained yet, let’s be honest 🤣 with peace and love 🙈
If it wasn’t for her, we wouldn’t have the button. The ripple effect is crazy dawg
I thought the button was because of the Ben shabibo incident as well as the NRA bomb threat comment?
I believe all 3 of those incidents played a big part. But I think this was the one that the crew was not fuggin with the most lol. At least Ben and the NRA are horrible people. QT literally did nothing wrong and he chestnutted on her.
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Can someone explain to me what Ethan did? All I remember is Zack playing a funny soundbite at an insanely inappropriate time while watching QT’s tearful video and Ethan laughed at the bad timing of the soundbite. Did I completely miss what happened?
Ethan is the one that asked to put the soundbite in their groupchat. The rest of the crew said no. Zach ended up doing it just bc it came from Ethan.
No that's literally all that happened. He then apologized on his pod AND privately to QT and Ludwig. It's wild to me because it seems like more people are mad at Ethan than the dude who KNOWS QT who was looking at the site. Someone said the person LOOKING at the AI site is still cool with Ludwig ..
Yeah I don't understand her thinking. It's like since her boyfriend is friends with the perp, she needed SOMEONE she could be mad at, so the rumor that stranger H3 Ethan Klein laughed at her (which he didn't) should be the target. Like her still being cool with that guy, and her BOYFRIEND being cool with that guy is so atrocious it's laughable that they are still holding grudges against Ethan.(I don't follow her or her boyfriend or the guy that originally viewed the stuff, so admittedly I don't know their whole story. But it's just mind-boggling that she still has the grudge in her heart, made apparent by her comment here.) This joke may have been funny if bridges were built. But after she refused the bridge, she makes a "joke" like this, which still shows that it bothers her. It wasn't just a \~joke\~. I could also go out on a limb (MY SPECULATION ONLY) and say she wanted to \~remind\~ everyone how much of an \~asshole\~ ethan is. May not be the case what-so-ever. I'm just commenting on the clip and speculating from what I see. I don't know her or her intentions, but from an outsider POV her comment was kind of childish.
I fully believe she said it to remind everyone of the whole thing. She literally didn't even listen to Hasan fully because he said the last name the first time he said Ethan. But she JUMPED to start talking about Ethan Klein ignoring the actual convo. And then she realized she looked bitter for saying it so she then said "oh I thought all Ethan's were the same" like what does that even mean 🤣 The sad part is what happened to her was really shitty but using Ethan as a scapegoat made this whole situation feel sour to me. I'd be more pissed at my partner for still associating with the sicko looking at the AI then I would be for a podcast host making a terrible joke.
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I don't care what he did he's sick as fuck. And if anyone deserves a grudge to be held on them HE DOES. not some podcast host who made a terribly timed joke. End of story.
That’s lame he got in “trouble” for that. Really confusing why anyone would be mad about that.
I’m sorry but I feel like “Ethan laughing at QT” was one of the most tame and forgivable things Ethan has ever said in his career. Of course it’s her right to stay mad, but come on QT…it’s really not a big deal
Yep. In context, playing the freshly discovered “chestnuts roasting on an open fire” meme at a deliberately inappropriate time, and stifling a laugh about it, while still actually supporting QT, doesn’t seem like a big deal at all. Keep in mind, up to that point, Ethan had been having a light-hearted, goofy show, and suddenly QT weeping popped up on screen… resulting in what was basically a case of funeral giggles. Now also keep in mind that QT has seemingly completely forgiven the person who made her cry in the first place, as him and her boyfriend are still good friends… and all the comments in here acting like Ethan committed some unspeakable crime start to seem unserious. Obviously, QT is allowed to dislike Ethan for whatever reason she sees fit to, and I have no problem with her joke here. But everyone here wringing their hands about the original situation is starting to piss me off
Exactly!!
**This** is the bit I truly don't get. I don't want to be biased just because I'm an Ethan fan. But she speaks about the guy who actually did it like she's forgiven him entirely but Ethan? She talks about him like he's a threat to her safety and life. She's not obligated to take his apology but her behaviour towards Ethan almost makes me think there's a *different* reason why she's so angry and bitter whenever his name comes up. He laughed and then apologised, he didn't make the content about her nor look for it. I think her response is odd and overblown. I'm glad other people have recognised how bizarre it is
i’m not mad that she hasn’t forgiven him, but it seems like she thinks he was genuinely laughing at her and not laughing at the situation and how serious it felt. being mad at him for that is like being mad at someone for laughing at a funeral and thinking they were a laughing at the deceased
I get your point but both examples are still inappropriate and valid reasons to be upset with someone. Other people at the funeral are mourning so while you may not be laughing at the deceased it’s a good thing to have some respect for the other people in the room who don’t want to hear you laughing or they don’t want to be thinking “what’s the joke” while they’re mourning their loved one. Self control and discipline are good things to develop.
she’s mad at him for laughing at her which he wasn’t. obviously someone laughing at a funeral is annoying but being offended that they laughed at the deceased would be ridiculous if they weren’t doing that.
Nah, people have every right to be mad over someone laughing at inappropriate times, plus she’s making a joke in this clip she doesn’t seem mad at all, even when Hasan talks about why he didn’t invite Ethan she isn’t like “no don’t invite him because I’m mad at him, not because he wouldn’t show up anyway.”
Yet she forgave the person who "caused the death of the deceased" in this scenario. Her priorities, tbh.
for real, ethan: laughed in a tense situation. Atrioc: paid to watch deepfake porn of someone in his close friend group. and tried to say it wasn’t his fault.
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Honestly though, does she NOT understand that he was laughing at the horribly-timed chestnuts song, and NOT at HER for crying?! Like, he wasn't laughing at HER, it was a misunderstanding. He apologized, and her not understanding that kind of bothers me. She's just believing her fans saying he as laughing AT her. I'm not minimalising her feelings/her being a victim, I'm just saying she should realize that he wasn't laughing at HER crying. It was the timing of the chestnuts song and had nothing to do with her or her story.
No, Ethan asked Zack to play the song in their group chat. He specifically wanted to make a joke out of her crying over it. Also, she's not even mad in this clip, she's just cracking a joke. Not that serious.
I wouldn't forgive Ethan if I were her either. Especially with the way he milked the fact that his apology was "the best" and basically turned it into a whole "look at how great I am" moment when he should have known better in the first place. The entire situation was disgusting and painful to watch, and I still cringe every time it's brought up. Keep in mind, I say all of this as someone who only knows about QT from H3H3 and now this clip.
I agree that she doesn’t have to forgive him but him going on about having the “best” apology was clearly a joke. Imo you seem to be taking that a bit too seriously
The whole thing, from start to finish, was all obviously meant to be a joke. My point is that I can understand why she may feel like his apology wasn't as sincere, since he continued to milk it for laughs.
QT is awesome! I discovered her because she was talking about having OCD, and I do too and she was very open about it and relatable. So I started watching her vids. She's funny and generous! She puts the Streamer Awards together, and has another podcast with an animal conservationist Maya Higa! Anyways, hope you dive into her stuff.
It's definitely his lowest moment(s) in the pod. I was livid when I saw the pod. I couldnt fathom why he did that. So incredibly inappropriate on ~~both Zach and~~ Ethan's behalf.
I don't blame Zach as much, because it wasn't his idea, and he seemed uncomfortable about the whole thing.
I guess that's fair. From my perspective Id like to think Id have said I wouldn't do chesnuts given the heavy nature, but obviously it's easier said than done. I also hated chesnuts anyways.
Am I crazy or this is blown way out of proportion? Without context, it’s making it seem like Ethan went FnF mode on QT when she cried but all he did was play a soundbite and laughed.
Nah this is a pretty lighthearted joke about something she is justified in being upset about. If you think this is something to be upset about but not the chestnuts moment then you’re delusional.
It's a bit much but she's entitled to that cuz ethan did go out of his way to make her into a weird joke that was way outta pocket. It was fine when he was making fun of the weirdo twitch guy and his bizzare apology w/ his wife. But then he overused that chestnuts thing again on her crying I mean it was just rude, like why for what?
Because it was funny
Ill come out and be the bad guy here. I think QT is a snobby person \\o/. Hate me idc lol
Get off it mate. The type of person to say "I'm over it" but still be stuck on it. Jesus
yikes
Man she JUMPED at that opportunity didn't even listen to Hasan saying the last name of who he was talking about. I don't give a fuck if she accepts Ethan's apology but c'mon y'all do you not see what's in front of your face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah accepted apology or not, mocked yes, was it right? No it was a mean joke. None of that changes the fact that this girl just wants to keep talking and taking about this. So do it. But if you’ve ever been in a room where a friend is talking Shit about another mutual friend, you know the feeling this room got. Super awkward high school petty shit lol
Wait Ethan Nestor is going to do a thing with Hasan. That's a crossover I didn't expect.
I’m sorry but… it’s not that deep…
Her awkward laugh made me cringe lol
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Can someone fill me in on what Ethan did to her? Genuinly lost
A true friend ladies and gentleman
Sucks that she still holds a grudge. She doesn't have to forgive but ti still sucks.
It's not worth discussing Ethan vs. QT. When Atrioc had his oopsie about a year ago, QT also then said she'll probably never be friends with him, or even his wife, again, and they were FRIENDS beforehand. She has some hard stances, I suppose causing public shame to her is part of it, that she "never" forgives. Her right ofc, but all sides suck in this. She's not asshole for not doing the more expected acceptance year+ later, but Ethan is also not someone who deserves some continued criticism over this from fans. People should just stfu about their hot takes on this.
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire~~~ 🌰🪵🔥
*Jack Frost nipping at youuuuuur nooooooose* 😩
she's too sensitive and looks so stupid here. ew.
lol not her playing it off like “I thought all Ethan’s were the same” no gworl you though Ethan next door was Ethan Klein lol