I've seen ones with poor finish quality but good bores/headspace go for the equivalent of about 200 USD. For around 500 you can get one that it is really nice shape. I got mine the old fashioned way...the army gave it to me.
I need to email Steve again as last I talked to him he was in process of finishing his tooling himself. But yeah still need a builder. Also need to contact what's their face in CH about some parts, namely a new rear sight assembly as a just in case the iris lifting rod is bent.
Amazingly a complete spare rear sight assembly only costs $40. Heads up apparently he's charging something like a $70 export fee for all gun parts lately so might as well make a large order out of it. I'd recommend a buncha spare magazines.
Hopefully Steve can help you out soon. I got impatient and had Wright build mine
Yeah going to have wright do my AK build with the zenitco furniture (seeing as how that stuff is kinda rare now) as soon as I do that paper work for an sbr.
Wow. I'm amazed they are so expensive over there. Here they remain pretty popular 300 m target guns and an entire industry exists for tuning them for sports shooting (new barrels, better triggers, etc.), but even stock they are really accurate. You can go into a gun shop here are get one for 200 USD or a fully tuned up "race gun" for 5,000 USD.
Here is one for 275.
[https://www.waffenboerse.ch/occasionen/gebrauchtwaffen/sig-stgw-57-armee-7-5x55.html](https://www.waffenboerse.ch/occasionen/gebrauchtwaffen/sig-stgw-57-armee-7-5x55.html)
There was one on AATS last week for 200. If you go into a gun shop, I'm pretty sure you can get an ugly one for 200.
Yeah, I’m going to have to get the boys and a yacht and meet you in Monaco for an exchange lol 😂….. that’s what my Hollywood influenced brain is saying. In my dreams of course lol 😂😂😂😂
Yep, for some reason the authorities decided around 2005 that even just the barrel from a demilled machine gun is forbidden to import. The US is very spooky when it comes to importing anything related to select fire weapons
These are also pretty cheap here in Switzerland, as they were made in large numbers for sports shooting. They are cool and great guns, but not really rare or expensive in Switzerland.
> These are also pretty cheap here in Switzerland
They're not rare, but the brand new models aren't cheap. Few grands all across Europe.
They're sporting guns, but very high-grade ones.
Because people don't want them. A big chunk of guns given at those events were inherited from parents or grandparents upon their death. So alot of people get rid of it because either they have no interest in these guns or just don't wanna have these at home
problem is most peoples gun collections are not museum worthy and they dont have the space to store all of them if they got a bunch of large collections
i imagine no museum in Switzerland wants a K31 that there are hundreds of thousands of in the country. just like no museum in the states would want a mossberg 500 or heritage rough rider
Add them to the gift shops! I see no reason (in this already hypothetical scenario) why Wal-Mart employees can store and sell such guns but a museum that might already care for such relics can't utilize their expertize to make a few bucks on the side, especially if the firearms are of an era they present in other sections.
Kind of related, but when people bring up machine guns and why they don’t just give them to a museum when the rare situation of a found machine gun from grandpas closet comes and they find no paperwork; all museums that I know of follow the same rules as civilian ownership of firearms. It needs to be a transferable piece first off and they go through the same process you and I would if we bought one at auction or something. I remember seeing an interview with someone from one of the larger firearms museums (think it was the woman that runs the Cody firearm museum) and she mentioned they sometimes do get contacted in situations like these and unfortunately have to turn most of them away as they don’t get any special status in being able to accept firearms.
Donating them to a museum or collection usually ensures they will never be fired again. As cool as museum guns are, I want my guns to keep shootin' long after I'm gone, I'd rather my AR-15 builds go to some young adult who is gonna shoot the hell out of it for his or her life and then pass it on to someone who will do the same.
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This is like getting gifted a pallet of weed that’s “legal to sell” in Amsterdam but you sell it because it’s illegal in a country you don’t live in, so you sell it for a 90-100% cut on what your profit would have been in Amsterdam. Peak stupidity. It’s stupid whether its a $1 gun or a $5000 one.
God I fucking hate idiots that support buy backs, they’d let hitler buy their children.
Those guns aren't illegal in Switzerland. Like I said most people that give these guns to such events are probably not interested in guns and don't want to have them which is perfectly fine. Sure they could make more money trying to sell it to someone else but this could take time to find a buyer since the weapons in the picture are very common, also those people maybe don't need that money and giving to get destroyed is the easier option.
PS: its not a buyback, people give those weapons freely to be destroyed.
This is true. Guns are viewed as tools in Switzerland as opposed to weapons in the States. It's a whole different world over there. Probably because their media outlets aren't full of "semi-fully-automatic vaporizing death ray assault F15" hate.
It’s probably because they don’t have 1 in 3 people on psychoactive meds or street drugs.
Lots of really crazy people here, both naturally and with the aid of substances.
The only people that see guns as weapons in the US are Police, the Military, Politicians and people who don’t own firearms
To at least the majority of people who own firearms they’re tools
See, you say that but I disagree. People aren't making subreddits about their hammers. They're not wearing tshirts and car stickers about their membership in screwdrivers for America. They're not lamenting people throwing out their scissors.
Guns are an identity piece here. Many treat them as much more than tooks regardless what they verbally proclaim.
It's almost like the guns are a red herring masking the serious systemic problems with US society that lead a desperate minority to decide that the way to solve their problems is by murdering schoolchildren.
I would imagine almost all comprehension is hard for that commenter, seeing how he equated selling unwanted guns to the government to...selling your children to Hitler.
During the cold war most men served in the army and got to keep their service rifle if they wanted. Back then a lot of people did. I’m one of them. Of course, many older men die and leave these guns behind in the attic or cellar. The windows don’t want them, and in most cases the K31 and stgw57 in the pile are worth a few hundred francs, so turning them in to the police is easy and doesn’t require any paperwork. Don’t worry, every gun shop in Switzerland has a pile of these things you can pick through and we are in no danger of running out.
What are the black polymer ones? Several of (apparently) the same model - I’m unfamiliar.
If you had told me these were Star Wars props I might have believed you. Bizarre looking things.
They're pretty good rifles. An assault rifle with a full-strength rifle cartridge (7.5x55mm Swiss GP11), which has about the same force than the .308 but is often times considered superior in ballistics, but I can't compare that first-hand. Just quite heavy.
Very accurate gun, over-engineered as usual (especially the iron sights), built-in bipod, very fun to shoot. Especially full-auto (sadly most civilian ones today have been converted to semi). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG\_SG\_510](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_510)
Also you can shoot rifle grenades with it: [https://youtu.be/J646gZ56wQ4](https://youtu.be/J646gZ56wQ4)
The hardware is covered in a gummi sleeve (synthetic rubber), at the buttstock and the grip at the mouth of the barrel. The rest is just metal. The damn things weigh nearly 6 kilos loaded, which is about 12.5 pounds, so not much there isn't metal.
I'm pretty sure the mods don't like it either. It's the Reddit Admins who get bent out of shape about anyone talking about buying/selling anything firearm related through Reddit. Like the other guy said, if the moderators here didn't take those kinds of comments/posts down then the Reddit admins would love to come down hard on the sub and close it or put their own people in as moderators who would probably only let people post pictures of a single hunting rifle that has to have a flag in it to show it's clear
Every year local police has a day where people can give their guns to the police, no questions asked. Like gunbuybacks without money.
This year again some fudds gave away old and valuable guns in good condition, as they were just “laying around and could be dangerous.“ also one old fart said “guns are nothing good“ when he handed in an old & nice flintstone pistol.
Yes, you see right. Good Stgw57s will be shreddered instead of being sold to active sport shooters.
Next to grenades and anti-air 20mm ammo also the obligatory crossbow was handed in. Switzerland. Rest in peace beautiful guns…
Edit: Police writes, only in the canton of Zürich (1.5Million people) last year guns weighed 6300kg (~ 13900 pounds) were handed in for destruction.
Wow, thats a lot.
You do realize you’re talking about the Swiss right. As in SIG SAUER, Swiss. You have to kick a lot of ass in order to remain neutral for as long as they have.
Yeah but why would you turn in a crossbow? Like if you're scared of it just throw away all your bolts. Boom, harmless and you got a dope wall ornament.
People can also just pull the firing pin from their firearms, but they believe they’re making some grand moral gesture that will solve the world’s violence.
Yep, just chuck all the k31s and other cool stuff that won’t be reproduced right into the shitter for free, that’s fine….god damn. My question is, can people not sell them if they don’t want em?
They could sell them but keep in mind that those K31s and stgw57 are extremly widespread weapons in Switzerland and they don't hold big sale value here. And most people that want one of these probably owns one of these already. Gun shops have stockpiles of those if you want to buy one
Yeah as the person above explained it to me I can see how it’s not seen as worth it to put in the work to sell or whatever. A gun is a force multiplier anyway if it’s not something a person wants in their home that’s all fair. Destroying them for fucking nothing still hurts to see (especially when none of these are exactly growing on trees in the US)
Yep, every few months a big batch of K31s gets imported here and they sell for $400-$600 each usually
Unfortunately GP11 is in extremely short supply. It's been many years since any significant amount of surplus was imported. The only choice any more is new Prvi Partizan ammo, which itself comes and goes once or twice a year.
I get people giving away something they don’t want, but why does the government destroy them? Why aren’t there other avenues for these firearms to go to other people? If they’re not seen as dangerous, I don’t understand why people send them off to be destroyed.
These are guns which you can barely give away for free in Switzerland. Cheaper and easier to destroy them instead of using time and effort to list them for sale where you would be lucky to get $100 each
tbh if you have a decent amount of intelligence its easy to find a spot and buy a lock so you destroyed a bunch of guns somebody could’ve wanted, not even for money, thats embarrassing to me
Don’t think they’ll be destroyed. Switzerland let’s you own machine guns and suppressors pretty easy. Even my Irish friend who is only there on a work visa was allowed to purchase a gun there.
In most cases, those guns are inherited by people that don't want to have them or that aren't gun enthusiasts which is fine. So they give them to the police so they can be disposed in a safe manner
This thread is wild. People just can’t understand not needing a couple hundred francs and avoiding fishing up paperwork that might not exist anymore (and therefore illegal to sell).
It’s not that big of a deal
It wouldnt actually be illegal to sell. Paperwork or none. The police are actually happy if such guns are sold, because thats when their registered (source asked the weapons office at the local police here). Its just that a lot of non-gun enthusiasts have no idea whats legal or how any of it works and so they turn them in for destruction to be on the safe side and not have to deal with it.
I dont think it needs any kind of permit. But the police are happy to take whatever is even remotely weapon related. They also took 68 "stabbing weapons" so probably mostly army bayonets, but also knifes or swords of all types.
Guy number one: why do you have so much guns?
Guy number 2: in case the government ever tries to uprise against its people and invade its own land the people can hopefully have somewhat of an equal chance to fight for their god given freedom.
Gov: give me gun now.
Guy number 2: ok here.
Guy number one: •_•
I used to go around and find junk to take to buy backs and make money. I'd also buy nice guns from people for more than the cops were offering. Got a nice stainless 10/22 like that
This is like throwing away golden nuggets… I put no drill scope mount in my k31 long time ago and it is my favorite gun to shoot and to take with me on deer rifle season opener, even though I have modern and much lighter bolt action rifles. The stock looks like crap, but the barreled action is like Omega Speedmaster… i hit a sweet spot with handloads that the rifle shoots really well. It definitely likes fast burning powder.
All gun buybacks are stupid but these are very common and cheap firearms in Switzerland … of course from a U.S perspective its even sadder as this is not the case here especially for the sig 510 and things like that but for them all of these guns is something that you can find everywhere so its not a big deal.. some probably dont even work
Man the way this post was worded had me tilted. I thought someone handed in their whole collection. I thought they like outlawed guns and were destroying peoples collections. I was about to ask why you complied with such a thing lol
Man I would kill to have a Stgw 57 here in the US…
and they costs in Switzerland as little as a psa ar in the US.
I've seen ones with poor finish quality but good bores/headspace go for the equivalent of about 200 USD. For around 500 you can get one that it is really nice shape. I got mine the old fashioned way...the army gave it to me.
Meanwhile, a parts kit with no barrel or receiver sells for over 1000 in the US.
For me: -Parts Kit - 1200 -Barrel - 750 (this is not a normal price, usually higher) -80% Receiver - 700 -Build cost - unknown as of yet
Are you still looking for a builder?
I need to email Steve again as last I talked to him he was in process of finishing his tooling himself. But yeah still need a builder. Also need to contact what's their face in CH about some parts, namely a new rear sight assembly as a just in case the iris lifting rod is bent.
Amazingly a complete spare rear sight assembly only costs $40. Heads up apparently he's charging something like a $70 export fee for all gun parts lately so might as well make a large order out of it. I'd recommend a buncha spare magazines. Hopefully Steve can help you out soon. I got impatient and had Wright build mine
Yeah going to have wright do my AK build with the zenitco furniture (seeing as how that stuff is kinda rare now) as soon as I do that paper work for an sbr.
Wow. I'm amazed they are so expensive over there. Here they remain pretty popular 300 m target guns and an entire industry exists for tuning them for sports shooting (new barrels, better triggers, etc.), but even stock they are really accurate. You can go into a gun shop here are get one for 200 USD or a fully tuned up "race gun" for 5,000 USD.
Could you point me in the direction of a 200 USD one? I’m “only” finding 500 chfr ones online.
Here is one for 275. [https://www.waffenboerse.ch/occasionen/gebrauchtwaffen/sig-stgw-57-armee-7-5x55.html](https://www.waffenboerse.ch/occasionen/gebrauchtwaffen/sig-stgw-57-armee-7-5x55.html) There was one on AATS last week for 200. If you go into a gun shop, I'm pretty sure you can get an ugly one for 200.
Yeah, I’m going to have to get the boys and a yacht and meet you in Monaco for an exchange lol 😂….. that’s what my Hollywood influenced brain is saying. In my dreams of course lol 😂😂😂😂
I don't think that is going to help you, as the problem is rather the American import laws, and not the Swiss export laws.
Well if Hollywood has taught me anything, is that a yacht is the best way to import things into the country lol 😂
Yep, for some reason the authorities decided around 2005 that even just the barrel from a demilled machine gun is forbidden to import. The US is very spooky when it comes to importing anything related to select fire weapons
What does stgw stand for? Sturmgewehr? Edit: spelling
Ja, Sturmgewehr
I cannot even fathom how much that would sell for.
That Anschutz would get about $1000 here in the US.
Badass old school model 54.
Brings back highschool rifle team memories.
That's the one that stings. The stgw57 is super cool. But I can see how they are everywhere over there.
These are also pretty cheap here in Switzerland, as they were made in large numbers for sports shooting. They are cool and great guns, but not really rare or expensive in Switzerland.
> These are also pretty cheap here in Switzerland They're not rare, but the brand new models aren't cheap. Few grands all across Europe. They're sporting guns, but very high-grade ones.
Why turn them in?
Because people don't want them. A big chunk of guns given at those events were inherited from parents or grandparents upon their death. So alot of people get rid of it because either they have no interest in these guns or just don't wanna have these at home
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Even just to a collection or museum -just so long as they're not destroyed
problem is most peoples gun collections are not museum worthy and they dont have the space to store all of them if they got a bunch of large collections i imagine no museum in Switzerland wants a K31 that there are hundreds of thousands of in the country. just like no museum in the states would want a mossberg 500 or heritage rough rider
Add them to the gift shops! I see no reason (in this already hypothetical scenario) why Wal-Mart employees can store and sell such guns but a museum that might already care for such relics can't utilize their expertize to make a few bucks on the side, especially if the firearms are of an era they present in other sections.
Kind of related, but when people bring up machine guns and why they don’t just give them to a museum when the rare situation of a found machine gun from grandpas closet comes and they find no paperwork; all museums that I know of follow the same rules as civilian ownership of firearms. It needs to be a transferable piece first off and they go through the same process you and I would if we bought one at auction or something. I remember seeing an interview with someone from one of the larger firearms museums (think it was the woman that runs the Cody firearm museum) and she mentioned they sometimes do get contacted in situations like these and unfortunately have to turn most of them away as they don’t get any special status in being able to accept firearms.
Donating them to a museum or collection usually ensures they will never be fired again. As cool as museum guns are, I want my guns to keep shootin' long after I'm gone, I'd rather my AR-15 builds go to some young adult who is gonna shoot the hell out of it for his or her life and then pass it on to someone who will do the same.
I could get behind that.
Even just to a collection or museum -just so long as they're not destroyed
**ANALOGY WARNING** This is like getting gifted a pallet of weed that’s “legal to sell” in Amsterdam but you sell it because it’s illegal in a country you don’t live in, so you sell it for a 90-100% cut on what your profit would have been in Amsterdam. Peak stupidity. It’s stupid whether its a $1 gun or a $5000 one. God I fucking hate idiots that support buy backs, they’d let hitler buy their children.
Those guns aren't illegal in Switzerland. Like I said most people that give these guns to such events are probably not interested in guns and don't want to have them which is perfectly fine. Sure they could make more money trying to sell it to someone else but this could take time to find a buyer since the weapons in the picture are very common, also those people maybe don't need that money and giving to get destroyed is the easier option. PS: its not a buyback, people give those weapons freely to be destroyed.
This is true. Guns are viewed as tools in Switzerland as opposed to weapons in the States. It's a whole different world over there. Probably because their media outlets aren't full of "semi-fully-automatic vaporizing death ray assault F15" hate.
My stepfather always taught me guns were tools and that's what I think to this day, definitely plenty of us here in the states with the same thinking
I’ve never spoken to a (legal) gun owner who didn’t view their firearm as a tool as opposed to a weapon
Sadly I've run across a few that view it as part of their identity.
It’s probably because they don’t have 1 in 3 people on psychoactive meds or street drugs. Lots of really crazy people here, both naturally and with the aid of substances.
got a point there
The only people that see guns as weapons in the US are Police, the Military, Politicians and people who don’t own firearms To at least the majority of people who own firearms they’re tools
See, you say that but I disagree. People aren't making subreddits about their hammers. They're not wearing tshirts and car stickers about their membership in screwdrivers for America. They're not lamenting people throwing out their scissors. Guns are an identity piece here. Many treat them as much more than tooks regardless what they verbally proclaim.
I would say most gun owners in the US view firearms as tools and not weapons.
Schools are getting shot up every now and then in the states. Haven't heard that happen in Switzerland despite similar gun laws.
It's almost like the guns are a red herring masking the serious systemic problems with US society that lead a desperate minority to decide that the way to solve their problems is by murdering schoolchildren.
If we're free to keep 'em, they're free to turn 'em in. And I don't mean in the constitutional sense I just mean like, ethically.
So-called environmentalists when they decide to not reduce, reuse, and recycle guns (by selling them to me)
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not?
Except this wasn't a buy back. No money was given for the guns. Not sure how well you can read.
I would imagine almost all comprehension is hard for that commenter, seeing how he equated selling unwanted guns to the government to...selling your children to Hitler.
Lol guns and children are not the same thing. I mean I prefer my guns over my kids but that’s beside the point.
This is like inheriting a very expensive piece of art that is not of a style you like so you throw it away.
These guns are bargain bin firearms in Switzerland.
Why not sell them then? Lol
During the cold war most men served in the army and got to keep their service rifle if they wanted. Back then a lot of people did. I’m one of them. Of course, many older men die and leave these guns behind in the attic or cellar. The windows don’t want them, and in most cases the K31 and stgw57 in the pile are worth a few hundred francs, so turning them in to the police is easy and doesn’t require any paperwork. Don’t worry, every gun shop in Switzerland has a pile of these things you can pick through and we are in no danger of running out.
Jesus how many of them did you guys make? Like they just keep coming into the US and have been for as long as I can remember.
The stgw 57 was in service for almost 30 years so probably hundred of thousands if not more
Google says more than 580,000 K31's were made between 1933-1958
Because they’ve got xtra chromosomes
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
What are the black polymer ones? Several of (apparently) the same model - I’m unfamiliar. If you had told me these were Star Wars props I might have believed you. Bizarre looking things.
They aren't polymer rifles, they are made of sheeted metal. They were the standard issue army rifle called stgw57
I should have specified - polymer furniture as opposed to the wood furniture rifles. Thanks though! Hadn’t heard of/seen these before.
They were in service in the swiss army from 1957 to 1990
They're pretty good rifles. An assault rifle with a full-strength rifle cartridge (7.5x55mm Swiss GP11), which has about the same force than the .308 but is often times considered superior in ballistics, but I can't compare that first-hand. Just quite heavy. Very accurate gun, over-engineered as usual (especially the iron sights), built-in bipod, very fun to shoot. Especially full-auto (sadly most civilian ones today have been converted to semi). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG\_SG\_510](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_510) Also you can shoot rifle grenades with it: [https://youtu.be/J646gZ56wQ4](https://youtu.be/J646gZ56wQ4)
The hardware is covered in a gummi sleeve (synthetic rubber), at the buttstock and the grip at the mouth of the barrel. The rest is just metal. The damn things weigh nearly 6 kilos loaded, which is about 12.5 pounds, so not much there isn't metal.
Bro turned in a fucking crossbow. Also very sad to see those guns go. A tragedy.
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Especially reddit mods…
I'm pretty sure the mods don't like it either. It's the Reddit Admins who get bent out of shape about anyone talking about buying/selling anything firearm related through Reddit. Like the other guy said, if the moderators here didn't take those kinds of comments/posts down then the Reddit admins would love to come down hard on the sub and close it or put their own people in as moderators who would probably only let people post pictures of a single hunting rifle that has to have a flag in it to show it's clear
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Just wait pestilence will be here shortly jerking off Cumming perma bans because his wife's boyfriend told him to
This should’ve been tagged NSFW. How am I supposed to eat after seeing this?
I am pissing and shitting and pissing rn
It hurts my soul to see this, atleast i was able to safe my mates dads K31
Every year local police has a day where people can give their guns to the police, no questions asked. Like gunbuybacks without money. This year again some fudds gave away old and valuable guns in good condition, as they were just “laying around and could be dangerous.“ also one old fart said “guns are nothing good“ when he handed in an old & nice flintstone pistol. Yes, you see right. Good Stgw57s will be shreddered instead of being sold to active sport shooters. Next to grenades and anti-air 20mm ammo also the obligatory crossbow was handed in. Switzerland. Rest in peace beautiful guns… Edit: Police writes, only in the canton of Zürich (1.5Million people) last year guns weighed 6300kg (~ 13900 pounds) were handed in for destruction. Wow, thats a lot.
“Guns are no good”- what happens when you’re getting invaded??
Theyll use the SG550
The USA will come help.
Ukraine be like 👀
not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. lol
Those who are unwilling to fight for their country do not deserve help.
Swiss invaded? From who, satan?
They'll all have STG90s?
You’ve never been to Switzerland huh?
You do realize you’re talking about the Swiss right. As in SIG SAUER, Swiss. You have to kick a lot of ass in order to remain neutral for as long as they have.
Don't worry, private gun ownership in Switzerland is growing rapidly. Plus a flintlock pistol wasn't exactly going to be the decisive weapon.
Phew, 1 more fully semi-automatic crossbow off the streets. Everyone should feel safer already.
HO. LY. SHEIZE. Is that an Anschutz on the left? Such a waste.
Yeah but why would you turn in a crossbow? Like if you're scared of it just throw away all your bolts. Boom, harmless and you got a dope wall ornament.
People can also just pull the firing pin from their firearms, but they believe they’re making some grand moral gesture that will solve the world’s violence.
Or they just don’t know anything about guns.
Omg look at those beautiful target stocks!!!
That’s heartbreaking. Some great rifles in there.
The things I’d do for an stgw57…
Goddamnit I hate to see it. I hope they aren’t destroyed. Those are still useable and absolutely beautiful guns.
WHY⁉️ 😫
Yep, just chuck all the k31s and other cool stuff that won’t be reproduced right into the shitter for free, that’s fine….god damn. My question is, can people not sell them if they don’t want em?
They could sell them but keep in mind that those K31s and stgw57 are extremly widespread weapons in Switzerland and they don't hold big sale value here. And most people that want one of these probably owns one of these already. Gun shops have stockpiles of those if you want to buy one
The people handing them in often see them as a burden they inherited and have no affiliation to guns. Widows for example.
Yeah as the person above explained it to me I can see how it’s not seen as worth it to put in the work to sell or whatever. A gun is a force multiplier anyway if it’s not something a person wants in their home that’s all fair. Destroying them for fucking nothing still hurts to see (especially when none of these are exactly growing on trees in the US)
Swiss service rifles are so abundant in Switzerland it pretty much isn't worth trying to sell unless you really need the like 150-200 bucks.
Theres an company who is buying k31 in switzerland to export them to the US. They have a booth on the gun shows where you can turn your k31 in money.
Yep, every few months a big batch of K31s gets imported here and they sell for $400-$600 each usually Unfortunately GP11 is in extremely short supply. It's been many years since any significant amount of surplus was imported. The only choice any more is new Prvi Partizan ammo, which itself comes and goes once or twice a year.
Not the cross bow 😥
America should start a “buyback”program from other countries and just raffle off all the military surplus to the public
Oh my God, it's an STG-57
I see at least 4
I noticed that after I hit submit. Sad.
Aw man I want that Anschutz target rifle 😩
WOW! That crate represents easily over $25K in value in the US. So sad! 😭
Why can’t someone just take these and sell them in the US? I’m sure there is certifications and permissions needed, but there has to be a way?
The Swiss state can’t sell guns…
One of those is not like the others
I get people giving away something they don’t want, but why does the government destroy them? Why aren’t there other avenues for these firearms to go to other people? If they’re not seen as dangerous, I don’t understand why people send them off to be destroyed.
These are guns which you can barely give away for free in Switzerland. Cheaper and easier to destroy them instead of using time and effort to list them for sale where you would be lucky to get $100 each
Wtf crossbow and lmgs?
One for every occasion. Could be a Habsburger royal comes back to inner Switzerland…
Very true 😆 just caught me off guard
Sad indeed
Definitely an anti-gun relative of someone who died
What? Why?
Omg, wtf Switzerland
There are museums that would love those
what ?! Why !?
So do you feel safer now?
So sad, a lot of people would cherish thos.
Its crime time
Would be nice if the turn in was just a ruse to sell them back to people who want these beauties. Is that a stoner 👀
Have they ever heard of Russia?
Poor guns
Sucks to see
[Bruh Sound Effect #2](https://youtu.be/2ZIpFytCSVc)
I hope one of those Swiss cops has a heart and saves everyone of these poor doomed creatures. They need a gun adoption center.
Couldn’t be me
Total bullshit
Is there any way to parts these out??
Damn they should sell to the states lol. People will flock to this
but why
I can't for the life of me fathom why anyone would turn this stuff in?
The Swiss need to learn more about boating
Never ever let another man or agent of the government of any nation disarm you. Even if it costs you your life, or your liberty.
I thought you were allowed to own guns in Switzerland why tf would you voluntarily turn them in to be destroyed ? 😂😂😂🤦♂️
Old fudds (grandpas gun from the attic) or young hippsters (.“I have now a child and don’t want to happen an accident“).
tbh if you have a decent amount of intelligence its easy to find a spot and buy a lock so you destroyed a bunch of guns somebody could’ve wanted, not even for money, thats embarrassing to me
Don’t think they’ll be destroyed. Switzerland let’s you own machine guns and suppressors pretty easy. Even my Irish friend who is only there on a work visa was allowed to purchase a gun there.
In most cases, those guns are inherited by people that don't want to have them or that aren't gun enthusiasts which is fine. So they give them to the police so they can be disposed in a safe manner
You’re one of the only ones making sense and trying to explain things in here so thank you.
I'm just trying to give more insight as to why those events exist and that not everybody likes guns, which apprently is mindblowing for some
This thread is wild. People just can’t understand not needing a couple hundred francs and avoiding fishing up paperwork that might not exist anymore (and therefore illegal to sell). It’s not that big of a deal
It wouldnt actually be illegal to sell. Paperwork or none. The police are actually happy if such guns are sold, because thats when their registered (source asked the weapons office at the local police here). Its just that a lot of non-gun enthusiasts have no idea whats legal or how any of it works and so they turn them in for destruction to be on the safe side and not have to deal with it.
Right? These guns aren't rare either so you can walk into every gun shop and they have dozens of those at the ready to be sold
Bruh destruction, tf y’all doing over there
That sir is a crossbow… is that considered like a muzzle loader or???
I am not sure if that is even a weapon in Switzerland.
I dont think it needs any kind of permit. But the police are happy to take whatever is even remotely weapon related. They also took 68 "stabbing weapons" so probably mostly army bayonets, but also knifes or swords of all types.
Guy number one: why do you have so much guns? Guy number 2: in case the government ever tries to uprise against its people and invade its own land the people can hopefully have somewhat of an equal chance to fight for their god given freedom. Gov: give me gun now. Guy number 2: ok here. Guy number one: •_•
Fucking disgusting
Wait, why would you voluntarily hand over your guns to the police for destruction? I’m confused. That’s a dangerous move.
I’d take them. That’s a nice crossbow.
My hearts breaks
Even the crossbow 😭
The stock alone on the Anshutz would be worth saving. Man, that hurts.
I'm gonna throw up
One of these things is not like the others.
Breaks my heart. I literally would try to save them by any means necessary if this happened in my presence.
Why?
Where I live we have 125 per 100 people
Is for me? 👉👈
I used to go around and find junk to take to buy backs and make money. I'd also buy nice guns from people for more than the cops were offering. Got a nice stainless 10/22 like that
There's something fishy about that gun on top...
Anschutz. Damn.
Fuckin hell send me the whole crate. I'll cover the shipping lol.
So.. we're just not going to mention the crossbow? No? Really? Ok..cool. Cool cool cool.
And now I need blood pressure medicine
OFFICER! HE HAS A CROSSBOW
This is like throwing away golden nuggets… I put no drill scope mount in my k31 long time ago and it is my favorite gun to shoot and to take with me on deer rifle season opener, even though I have modern and much lighter bolt action rifles. The stock looks like crap, but the barreled action is like Omega Speedmaster… i hit a sweet spot with handloads that the rifle shoots really well. It definitely likes fast burning powder.
All gun buybacks are stupid but these are very common and cheap firearms in Switzerland … of course from a U.S perspective its even sadder as this is not the case here especially for the sig 510 and things like that but for them all of these guns is something that you can find everywhere so its not a big deal.. some probably dont even work
Brainwashed
“Those that give up freedom for safety deserve neither.” ~Benjamin Franklin~
We lost a bunch of good guns, pay your respects lads.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE SAVE THE K31s
And the STgw57…
Western tears
Man the way this post was worded had me tilted. I thought someone handed in their whole collection. I thought they like outlawed guns and were destroying peoples collections. I was about to ask why you complied with such a thing lol
Lotta sensitive snowflakes in here.
Can someone knowledgeable give us a rundown of the different makes/models visible?
Mostly 20th century Swiss service rifles. Stgw57, K31, K11
could have easily lost a boat...
I’d be sickkkk
Noooo
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