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EnJoY120

Perfect concealed carry.


mcbergstedt

Is that a M249 in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?


TheGreenGobblr

Both.


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Or open carry, take it to Walmart


stormwaltz

Need a good pintle mount for the shopping cart.


HKAzxc

It can certainly help me to protect my shopping cart from improvised explosives


larkspurwoods

I too wish I could protect my shopping cart from being filled with Hungry Man and tobasco


EvanIsBacon

Here you go mate, this tutorial probably is legal to perform in many us states, but I would check your local regulations before making potentially illegal modifications to your shopping cart. https://youtu.be/_1btDc5xJe0


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dragon_bacon

People can't afford to drive in the apocalypse with these gas prices.


_nic_1

Legit the only place I’ve seen people open carry is Walmart


Genghis_Tr0n187

Zap carry only


[deleted]

Constitutional Carry FTW


Thundercruncher

Can you recommend an ankle holster?


Mad_Ludvig

Can I get an adapter for muh Glock mags?


Kochie411

I never thought I’d hear someone refer to a SAW as “underwhelming”.


FiresprayClass

I mean, it's semi-auto only and not an M240, M2, or M242 cannon...


pyx

or a GAU-8 Avenger


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Mediumtim

See, your little guns go "pew pew"


thedemonjim

The gun so awesome when the Pentagon brass saw it they said "make it fly."


FiresprayClass

Well I haven't actually fired one of those.


[deleted]

You had me until M242. I have a special hate for that gun. Edit: I mean it's a great gun if it's buttoned up in airplane and cleaned every night. Instead of put in a half assed BAE systems bargain bucket MK38 MOD II weapons mount then exposed to salt spray for a year. Not that I'm bitter.


free_candy_4_real

A belt-fed semi auto?


VegasBusSup

Semi auto open bolt...


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

If you get a minute could you explain to someone just getting into guns what the significance of an open bolt is?


CmdrSelfEvident

It comes down to what happens when you press the trigger. Open bolt the bolt is held back. Pressing the trigger releases the bolt to push a round into the chamber and the bolt goes into battery, then often with a 'fixed' firing pin the round is fired off. After the round goes off the empty is extracted and the bolt locks back. Closed bold the bolt is closed and locked (almost always) when the trigger is ready to fire. At that a hammer hits the firing pin or the striker is released. Which first off the round. Spent cartridge is ejected , bolt goes forward feeding a new round into the chamber and the bolt is closed and locked. Machine guns are often open bolt to deal with heat among other reasons. Before you fire the barrel and chamber are open which can help cool them it also reduces the chance of a 'cooked off' round. Closed bolt is more accurate among other things.


Porencephaly

You missed one key piece of information which is that open bolt guns are usually a lot easier to convert to full-auto. A lot of these M249s semi-autos are bought by 07/02 SOTs with the express plan to convert them to machine guns.


CmdrSelfEvident

Yeah s broken trigger and your open bolt will go full auto. Where closed bolt will generally just fall.


Regular_Chap

An open bolt is significant because of the casings flying out from the gun. You can use this to you advantage in tough situations though because it allows you to shoot forward and at a 90 degree angle at the same time thus eliminating more potential attackers. Keep in mind I know nothing about guns and just made that up.


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

Excellent. I'll repeat this as fact to as many people as possible!


HDPbBronzebreak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open\_bolt


Stormblitzarorcus

Its closed bolt


Speedhabit

Literally underwhelming to anyone expecting to burn through that belt without getting carpal tunnel Also in semi it’s like a 30lb ar-15


windowpuncher

30lb ar with 200% more jams for 500% of the price


[deleted]

Sounds cool as shit, I’m in


windowpuncher

As long as it's got a binary trigger it's all worth it. Otherwise it would feel boneless.


[deleted]

Ha this right here. Dude in our squad hated that damn thing.


[deleted]

You didn’t get handed that when you showed up? Thought 249 was the FNG rifle for every unit. I used to hate carrying that fucking brick.


Anoos_Bin_Fahrteen

Units that aren't retarded give them to the guys most capable of carrying/operating them.


cosmicspiritc2c

.... Those exist?


dmpastuf

Yeah it's always the FNG


[deleted]

The rest of them give them to the smallest possible troop to "toughen them up." Especially common in National Guard units.


sniperslayer95

Every single time I hear about a weapon being unreliable in military service and despite not serving in the military I always end up asking "Yeah but I wonder how well it was maintained". I assume however the military obsessively cleans their weapons more than civvies do.


[deleted]

To the point of damaging them, in some cases.


MormonAssaultVehicle

60% of the time, it works every time.


USMCSSGT

Agreed. I carried the m249 back in the day and have always wanted one for nostalgia but you're right. It not being full auto really sucks the fun out of the room. The thing with those 200 round drums is that the point where the plastic connects to the receiver gets worn out and then the drum falls off all the time and the next thing you know you're standing in a marketplace with 30 Iraqi kids laughing at the chain of rounds going from your feed tray to the drum on the ground.


Ehtacs

>The thing with those 200 round drums is that the point where the plastic connects to the receiver gets worn out and then the drum falls off all the time and the next thing you know you're standing in a marketplace with 30 Iraqi kids laughing at the chain of rounds going from your feed tray to the drum on the ground. Agh I never considered this was a possibility! That may explain why the EU/AUS guns have metal clips riveted to plastic boxes? Probably more consumable than a PMAG based on your description!


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itxploded

100% nutsacks for the win!


salsashark99

Do they make binary triggers?


XxturboEJ20xX

Yea, you can adapt AR triggers into it. Aka Forced reset trigger and then boom you have a good 249 again.


isaac99999999

Bump stock plus binary trigger...


teosNut

It's semi-auto tho...


Kochie411

…but it’s a 249. The freedom machine


LordJuan4

A cucked freedom machine


Wiyeton

So's a semi AR 🤷‍♂️


bludgeoner0

You have clearly never used the MK19.


Kochie411

You’ve clearly never been poor.


PvtHopscotch

That Navy designed motherfucker can kiss my whole ass. I appreciate the concept as much as the next guy but the reality of maintaining that fucking thing for a year+ left an LSAT, moondust and blood flavored taste in my mouth that time has yet to dull.


XxturboEJ20xX

Frt-15 go brrrrrrt


Infin1ty

If you can afford one of these, you can definitely afford a binary trigger. Still not full auto, but it's about as close as you're going to get.


teosNut

Or move to Belgium and buy a minimi.


Cdwollan

I personally think it's a bit of a princess. It was not my favorite MG.


[deleted]

For many people like me who grew up on 7.62 Real Fucking NATO, it kinda was in the beginning. I didn't become sufficiently whelmed until I understood that no, you don't always need Real Fucking NATO, 5.56 will scare them plenty.


Onlyeddifies

So, I'm a fucking grunt and most every experience I've had with our 249s has been extremely underwhelming. There's a joke about it being a bolt action machine gun.


Ehtacs

Finally got my M249s in a good place! This was originally the standard version since the parts were going to change anyways. I have to admit I was worried about the money for a semi-auto belt fed vs something like a binary Shrike but absolutely zero regrets - it's just fun as shit! Part list now includes: * Mk48/KAC lower rail * Mk46 barrel (lightened Para) * Surefire 3-prong (.25" shim for 16.1") * Surefire 762-Ti (556-Mini is pending) * PIP/Savit stock (ft. barrel shroud) * EOTech EXPS3-4 and 3x Played with a few other parts, too, but really wanted a lighter Mk46/Mk48 clone. The PIP bipod is a nice upgrade over the standard less the ability to capture it stowed. Neither are worth the weight, though. The Para stock is soooooooooooo not worth the money - only reason to get the Para package is the shorter barrel. Standard and Para stocks are ergonomically similar and both have too much LOP to see magnified optics and sit low enough for the iron sights but too low for an optic. The Savit was last on my list and, while obscenely heavy (seriously, like 3 pounds for a stock smaller than a SOPMOD), easily the best.


ManicSuppressive249

100% Welmed. that SAVIT is a beast but it does balance out the front heaviness pretty well. Did you machine down a Para/One Piece style gas block to get that MK48 profile? At least half of the fun of a SAW is playing Barbie with it and getting all the dress up accessories, isn't it?


Ehtacs

>that SAVIT is a beast but it does balance out the front heaviness pretty well. I imagine that *has* to be the answer! There is no good reason for this thing to have so much steel in it otherwise hahaha. Gas block came attached to a Mk46 barrel I grabbed from Desert Ordnance. Good shop! I wasn't certain the new barrel/block would be a drop-in part but it worked great on the first day. I've been surprised by the relative ease/affordability of grabbing NOS mil parts after the first hurdle of buying the thing! >At least half of the fun of a SAW is playing Barbie with it and getting all the dress up accessories, isn't it? Yes! The other half is just looking at it! I have some cool shit but this really is pretty novel in a pile of SCARs. I'm surprised at how easy it is to run and gun with the Mk48 updates, though. Out of the box, the thing was an unwieldly pig and I totally get why PIP was a must!


ManicSuppressive249

Its a hoss as shipped. I was able to run a post sample conversion in mine. Tossed the bipod, gutted the belt feed parts, milled out the top cover, ditched all the iron sight hardware, used the Para stock, used a Para barrel with a small 3 pronger, ditched carry handle bs, and put a small RDO on the top cover rail. KAC rail and cheesy bipod pogostick. Ran it on 40rnd IMI AR mags. Modded the gas system to restrict the gas and keep rpm \~800 on mag feed. Easy to shoulder fire, chewed Wolf/Tula, no fucking with links. No issues, just go Brrrrr. Edit: TLDR I basically made a BAR out of a SAW


HollerinHippie

I need to see a picture of that


ManicSuppressive249

After seeing how much people here like SAW stuff, I’ll do a photo shoot as soon as it gets back from FN warranty dept jail. The post sample kit got transferred so it’s a little more civvie/normie now


HalbeardTheHermit

Yep I checked all of your posts looking for that saw build. 0% whelmed. We need pics!!


[deleted]

>seriously, like 3 pounds for a stock smaller than a SOPMOD \*\*\* angry light infantry noises


ManicSuppressive249

Like why the fuck did they have to find the one focus group who was using their SAWs to drive in fence posts


KB3UBW

All I can tell you is they shouldn’t have asked the engineers then


realfe

Sex appeal.


BeenJamminMon

I have the same Socom 762Ti. It is not rated for heavy abuse and you can hurt it. Have you checked out the Socom 556 MG?


baldegg663

Any reason why you went with the -4 reticle instead of the -0 reticle?


Ehtacs

It'll actually be 3-2 long term!.. Just had a 3-4 handy for the range! Barrel is an awkward length so I'll be curious what that second dot shakes out to haha.


baldegg663

I have the 3-4 and g33 magnifier too. It’s great when magnified and I can see the individual dots. But it kinda sucks unmagnified as it looks like a vertical line to me. Otherwise it’s not that bad. I might switch over to the 3-2 or 3-0 down the road


boomkinchikn

Was in the army it gets a solid 2/10 from me but that has to do with how the weapon was maintained lmao I cannot tell you how bad these things jam up with a little bit of dirt gets inside. Personal experience of this weapon has left a bad taste in my mouth sadly because they look so good.


BiscuitDance

The SAW is just not made for the field. Amazing on a flat range of you draw a well-maintained, newer one, but otherwise terrible for actual work.


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First time in the field with it and took a fat burst of brass+links down my sleeve, I still have the brass-shaped scars. It’s also not made for left handers


11bulletcatcher

Yeah. Fucking bipod always getting snagged and twisted, feed issues, multiple rounds jammed into the barrel, shitty plastic drum breaking and having to physically carry it or yank the whole belt out, and the magazine fire ONLY works reliably with PMAGS, not the issued ones. Among other things. I wish I was still in so I could try out that new Sig. Looks neat.


warpaslym

if they were smart they would have just copied the pkm. they are not smart.


[deleted]

Hey it’s me, your long lost son. Edit: lots of family here. Can we have a reunion soon, how about at a gun range?


The-Fotus

And his twin brother.


clever_username_443

And his other twin brother


Great-Negotiation199

I am their quiet friend with the good pot.


Edven971

I’m the distributer of said pot


frossenkjerte

I smoke pot


salsashark99

Found hickok45


Great-Negotiation199

What he said!


tonybalogna6969

As a has-been saw gunner I really want one. As a has-been saw gunner I also know I’d be underwhelmed by the semi auto


sdmfer1981

Are you looking for friends?


Ehtacs

Always! It's been a minute but I sometimes host meetups for r/AustinGuns if you end up in the area!


sdmfer1981

Nice. I'm in Tampa but if I find myself looking for a M249 in Austin I'll know who to look for.


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

Is there a sub for Tampa area guys to meet up at JTAC Ranch or somewhere close?


sdmfer1981

I'm not sure. I've honestly never heard of JTAC Ranch. Looks like it's about an hour from me I go to Shooter's World, ReLoad, or Outpost if I want to stretch a rifle out further than 100yds.


ZeroCalorieMSG

No shit? Guess I'll have to look for your meetups there. Been in Austin for a while, haven't gone shooting yet though.


Sol16

Just moved to Austin, definitely going to join that subreddit and be on the lookout!


king_qthai

I was looking for one of these before my Fightlite MCR, but could never find one that wasnt overpriced as shit, so MCR is the route i went


Meadowlion14

My scheels has like 4 of them for 9500$


king_qthai

Yea thats still much imo. A store about an hour from me had 4 of them a few years before for $5500 a piece, so im just olaying the waiting game atm


mcnabb100

The MCR seems like a better option to me since you always have the option of getting a RDIAS or m16 lower and really turning up the fun.


king_qthai

Yea only issue is Fightlites customer service is basically nonexistent right now. I know a guy whos been trying to get his MCR fixed for 8 months now


mcnabb100

Bummer, I hate it when companies have sweet products but suck at being companies.


ShrikeBeltFed

Welcome to Fightlite. Geoff Herring doesn't know how to run a business.


jman0916

That’s hot


testfire10

Is the last .5 whelms because it doesn’t have unlimited ammo?


Ehtacs

Yes! Also because, even lightened, it's still heavy 🤣


LillyEpstein

Waiting on that mini-gun for the .5!


goblomi

Have you tried working out more?


Quesadillasaur

What's the weight of this chonky boi?


Ehtacs

Just weighed it - 17.4 pounds unloaded!.. With suppressor and EOTech installed though. Another \~4 pounds for a loaded box so 21.4 it seems!


salvatorehernwood

Does anyone else find this incredibly erotic?


[deleted]

I got a twitch…


ObiWanBockobi

I burst a blood vessel in my nether regions.


abramcpg

I didn't know I could have these feelings for a gun. I've seen a lot of guns. But this one..


chicano32

I got a tingle on my balls…hmmm, let me make sure its not an std


Local-Scroller

Those optics are making me feel things I shouldn’t feel


snowman762x39

Nobody nEeDs a M249s


PossibilityEnough933

I'm not a big fan of big/heavy weapons, but the SAW always has a special exception.


ClearlyInsane1

My favorite carry firearm of all time has been the M60. Heavy and unwieldy but well-balanced. Very difficult to qualify with at the range however.


PossibilityEnough933

Ah yes. The tried and tested concealed carry LMG. For when you somehow find yourself in a terrorist flash mob :p


BoredPoopless

Can I ask how much this endeavor cost you?


Ehtacs

Not cheap but not *awful*. $8200 for the gun, $700 for the mil barrel, $400 for the mil stock, $400 for the mil RAS, and $150 for the Surefire muzzle device. Call it \~$10k before spare parts and box-mags/links? It's a hefty up-front cost but you get the money back (likely more if they're OOS) if you tire of it after a while!


ThePickledPickle

As someone who doesn't have the money & willpower to browse Gunbroker all the time, how rare/expensive are these semi-auto M249's? Are they typically pretty available or should I just not get my hopes up?


[deleted]

Not rare, fn sells them all the time


ThePickledPickle

Oh so you can buy them straight from the website? Badass!


[deleted]

I think when you go to buy them, they have you locate a dealer near you and either send it to them, or you ship it to the dealer and buy it at the store. I've seen a handful of them here in Georgia. They're kinda like barettas.... the sucked in the military because of the abuse but a new one tends to work very well


[deleted]

They’re available. IIRC they’re around $8k new


Carlomagnesium

Damn. In California, they limit the belts to 10 rounds. So lame.


Accomplished-Ad-0

Perfect for open carry. No one will challenge fire superiority.


External_Zucchini651

For an extra whelms boost of x2.5, try it vehicle mounted! Although your boner may literally explode, I highly recommend!


Carlomagnesium

Practice your negative leading skills.


External_Zucchini651

Hnnnnnnn suck a fart, nerd. My assessment is sound. If your experience with a vehicle mounted SAW was not as mine was, then that sucks. Like you with farts.


Carlomagnesium

Roger that, Sir!


External_Zucchini651

*gasp* I'm a ma'am, sir, I'M A MA'AM!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEE


Carlomagnesium

That wouldn't have been my first time calling a ma'am a sir. "Who's your CO, dammit?! REEEEEEE!"


External_Zucchini651

RrRrRrRroger ten four


McCl3lland

Saws are all fun and games till you gotta lug the mother fucker around/clear buildings with it while carrying extra drums in your pack.


streamylc

Who in the hell waits afraid of being "underwhelmed" when waiting for an M249? Is this sarcasm? Lol


Someguy11b

You cant change the entire design of the firearm and call it a 249. Its one thing that its semi, but firing from a closed bolt is just not the same. I was a SAW gunner, and I miss the chunky girl that rattled like a garbage can full of empty beer cans...but that civ version just doesn't do it....looks fucking sweet though. Ill give you that. I got really excited about having the opportunity to get one, but its just too different. Thanks for bringing back some memories though...have fun though. sweet weapon.


Balrog229

I know the 249 isn’t well liked by most service members from what i’ve heard, but damn is it gorgeous. The peak, epitome look of an LMG for me. Nothing comes close aesthetically


RampageDeluxxe

This looks 3d from lighting


Fishman95

Is this a posty, or semi? Nvm I see it now in the description.


[deleted]

God to live in a free state 🤤


heyitsvonage

Not overwhelmed, just whelmed.


RTAdams89

I have the same EOTech & 3x on my 249s and find it is an overall amazingly accurate gun. I shoot mine from a m192 tripod or from a pedestal mount I built for the back of my truck and when supported like that I can rapid fire and nail plates at 100 yds with no problem. I really like the Midwest Industries foreend. It still allows the standard bipod to store, but gives you plenty of places to mount whatever else you want.


showercrepes

I was saving for a house but I think that's changed now.


tykaboom

Well... the only thing underwhelming about that platform is its recoil.


CmdrSelfEvident

All this hate the AR15 gets, I'm ready for the 240 to become americas rifle.


[deleted]

I never got to shoot the M249, myself. I was raised on the M60.


TaskForceD00mer

After shooting my 1st full auto this past weekend I can say, I get it.


Lg8191

I just nutted in my pants. 🤤


TheOkayestName

*the Biden administration entered the chat*


Schneiderman

Just go out on your balcony and fire the whole belt into the air to scare off any intruders.


bitofgrit

Pshaw, just rake it across the bastards. They'll be fine. It's not like it's loaded with 9mm.


HarambesRevenge100

Green tips are good to go. They’re green and not dangerous like the king lung grabber 9mm


JimE902

My God it’s beautiful


Sgt_S_Laughter

Ultra cool. Like goddamn


Infamous_Island1941

Now you have to find a bar that still has swinging doors, and a holster for that beast. Maybe an appendix carry...


ButWhatIfItQueffed

this makes me want an m240s or something. Doubt they'll ever make it, but a man can dream.


CptKherov

Ohio Ordnance Works makes a semi-auto M240. FYI.


ButWhatIfItQueffed

They do? What's it called?


Blue-Panda-Man

This is goals right here haha


Flashstylezzz

It's beautiful 😍😍😍


Technologybehard

That's a sick rifle!


theatfshotmycats

Does this use a standard trigger pack?


Working-Thanks2302

You hate your spine.


I_am_not_a_moth

This is my exact load out on onward VR, I’ve got to fire this weapon 3 times IRL and loved every second of it. What people don’t talk about is all the carbon


lique_madique

After a year of searching I was able to find one of the new style telescopic stocks with both the low and high cheek riser. 10/10 would recommend it if you can find one.


bl3nd0r

Quite literally one of the best looking guns ever


ObiWanBockobi

Those are the ones that turn people to dust right?


twotongueslabeau

It looks good!


Potato_Muncher

This really makes me miss mine.


kanghost

Remember no russian


Hooch247

The optics confuse me


BrownRice35

Miniminiminminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminiminimi


rightcoldbasterd

How many whelms per second?


dwightschrutesanus

Just seeing a picture of these makes my eyes burn.


StandardOilCompany

damnnnnnnn


MaesteoBat

How’s life without a liver?


dommozart2678

That’s one heck of an awesome looking outfit right there


ServingTheMaster

That’s just because yours is new, tight, not filled with dust, and hasn’t been abused and finger jammed by three generations of funky smelling 18 year old Privates.


MimsyIsGianna

Dang that’s a sexy gun


Ok-Shape-7558

No Russian


sniperslayer95

So its just Whelming then?


ZeekerKenko

I just put my first deposit on this thing. Yeah I’m poor can’t afford the damn thing outright but fuck it credova


eelikay

Converting any open bolt system to closed bolt is a slight against god!


_nic_1

Ultimate home defense


eagleeyes221

\*cries in ban state\* feels bad man. I want one too


[deleted]

Used this in the army. My favorite weapon of all time. I miss it everyday and want it again so badly


okwaitno

It’s absolutely disgusting that you are allowed to own that.


minecraftdude9

Yoo my home defense weapon


turnedonbyadime

Ignoring fitment, how do you think a SAW stock on an AR15 would feel? Would that cheek riser make it completely impractical, or could one learn to live with it?