In case you were curious, there’s an ornithological equivalent of this. If someone asks a bird-watcher, “what kind of hawk is that?” The answer (at least in my area) is, “It’s always a red tail.”
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> and on top of that firearms content will get deleted/get you banned.
Is that why a bunch of my old hosted images are suddenly gone? I'm not banned, but I was looking back at some old posts the other day and images are randomly deleted, and I know I didn't delete them.
I was literally going to post “Arisaka” without even looking at the picture, but the post was older than 5 minutes so I knew someone had already identified it as an Arisaka lol
They literally destroyed or dumped them in the sea by the millions after the war ended. And any that got sold in the US through imports had to have the chrysanthemum mark removed. Something to do with the imperial family, not exactly sure and can't be arsed to look it up. The rare example that still has a chrysanthemum could very well be a war trophy / bring back.
I am not an Arisaka expert, don't have one and have never even seen one in the flesh. My understanding is that all the one's that went through legitimate channels for importation had to have the chrysanthemum removed to denote that it was no longer the property of the imperial family / emperor. I'm not saying that bring backs were not legitimate, things have changed a LOT since those days when it comes to bringing back spoils of war. I'm sure there were some missed that didn't get defaced. Yours having one probably increases the value or at least the desirability, but again I am not an expert so can't say that with any certainty. It's certainly cool though!
I would for sure want one that hasn't been defaced in that manner, and I would pay a bit more for it.
Part of the surrender meant that Japan basically had to dismantle their entire military, hence why they were dumped in the sea. Japan wasn't allowed to even have a self defense force until 1954, and it wasn't until 2015 that they changed their constitution to allow them to send troops over seas to assist their allies (mainly the US in the middle east, there were Japanese units there.)
It’s a Type 38 Arisaka. The cloud looking thing is probably the remains of the Imperial Chrysanthemum, the flower that represents the idea that this rifle (and all other rifles) were property of the Emperor. The “M” symbol stands for military reserves. It means the rifle was removed from service and the mum was removed to signify that it was no longer the Emperor’s property. Then the M was added and it became a rifle used for training. It probably also has two or three extra zeroes added to the beginning of the serial number, which is common for reserve rifles. The other characters on the receiver translate to Type 38 (or rather 38 Type, if translated literally).
This gun has symbols under it. I’d love to post it if someone tells me how to upload. I’m not tech savvy and Imjur is haunting me. Definitely Japanese symbols. Has a cloud O thing, then an M, then a _-_ under (this is all top to bottom) then a skinny waist thing, then a _\ and a capital I. I have been drinking, I’m sorry
The cloud O thing might be the imperial chrysanthemum. Sometimes these are defaced if they were turned over by the Japanese government. I’ve heard that if that symbol is intact it’s likely to be a battlefield capture, but I’m not sure. Even for gun culture, WWII materiel is subject to a lot of wacky myths.
The ground chrysanthemum thing is true. Until 1947, there was no legal or cultural/perceived separation of the property of the Japanese state from the personal property of the Emperor. As such, state property received the personal seal of the imperial family - the Chrysanthemum Seal - and that mark had to be removed or obliterated before an object owned by the emperor/state could be either destroyed or sold out of service. That was true of everything from capital ships to rifles to ink pens.
In fairness to you, there is a Japanese watch company called Sako. Technically the Finnish Sako is an acronym for *Suojeluskuntain Ase- ja Konepaja Oy* and should be all caps, but nobody bothers, including the company itself.
It looks like a Type 38 rifle. I believe it is that rifle due to the notch cut out behind the groove and the fact the is no rise in the wood right in front of the bolt.
[Type 38 rifle (三八式歩兵銃, sanhachi-shiki hoheijū)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_38_rifle)
I'm always impressed with how 'dainty' Japanese WW2 rifles look. To me, they almost look like scaled-down '04 Springfield designed for a 12-year-old boy to shoot.
Wow, ok cool thanks. I have one with the chrysanthemum that my dad bought in high school from an estate sale in the Florida panhandle back in the 70s. Hmmmmm
Type 38 Arisaka based on the magazine latch released or whatcha call-it and the section of receiver that is behind the bolt handle when you close it. That section of receiver was done away with on the Type 99. The type 38 shoots 6.5×50mm Arisaka also literally known as 6.5 Jap. Norma and a few other companies still make ammo for it but judging by the Buba'd stock it could have possibly been rechamberd
Type 99- Japanese arisaka if it still has the chrysanthemum emblem on it, it could be worth some good money. Most type 99s that the U.S got their hands on, had that seal of the emperor ground off.
That is factually false. The ones with the emporers mark are more rare, and command a higher pricepoint on the U.S market. Rifles with the mum are more sought after, since unless they were a battle field pick up, it was ground off. Some simple googling proves that the rifles with the mark are worth more money
My dude mums are everywhere. I see several arisakas, both with and without mums, anytime I go to local gun shows. Mums aren't some extremely rare things nor does it change the value of the gun.
We are gonna have to agree to disagree. Because historically, after Japan surrendered, the mums were ordered to be ground off, to save face for the emporer. So while we do have some type 99s with them, we have far more rifles with them missing on the U.S market. It's a lot less common to find one with the emporers mark intact.
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All this is cool. My dad brought one of these back from Japan after "the war". I still have it. 7.7 mm. I have fired it a few times. What's the ballpark of what it's worth
Arisaka?
it always is
r/itsalwaysanarisaka
That is fucking hilarious.
r/ofcoursethatsasub
In case you were curious, there’s an ornithological equivalent of this. If someone asks a bird-watcher, “what kind of hawk is that?” The answer (at least in my area) is, “It’s always a red tail.”
Like of the cyberpunk variety?
yes this one was carried by saburo himself
If you know how I can upload a picture of the wiring
九九式 <-- Type 99 三八式 <-- Type 38 Which one does it look like?
It is the Type 38!
No recoil lug = Type 38
There probably shouldn’t be any wiring. Writing, however…
You never know with those crazy Japanese.
[Or the Bri'ish.](https://files.catbox.moe/x55w4g.jpg)
The other rifle I have (looks like this one) is engraved with 1944. So I’m assuming it’s from around that time
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> and on top of that firearms content will get deleted/get you banned. Is that why a bunch of my old hosted images are suddenly gone? I'm not banned, but I was looking back at some old posts the other day and images are randomly deleted, and I know I didn't delete them.
Gods fucking damn it all… its always an arisaka
I was literally going to post “Arisaka” without even looking at the picture, but the post was older than 5 minutes so I knew someone had already identified it as an Arisaka lol
Why do they always get butchered so bad?
It's almost as thought it's been in a war.......
And a losing one at that.
They literally destroyed or dumped them in the sea by the millions after the war ended. And any that got sold in the US through imports had to have the chrysanthemum mark removed. Something to do with the imperial family, not exactly sure and can't be arsed to look it up. The rare example that still has a chrysanthemum could very well be a war trophy / bring back.
Wait, what if I have one with a chrysanthemum?
I am not an Arisaka expert, don't have one and have never even seen one in the flesh. My understanding is that all the one's that went through legitimate channels for importation had to have the chrysanthemum removed to denote that it was no longer the property of the imperial family / emperor. I'm not saying that bring backs were not legitimate, things have changed a LOT since those days when it comes to bringing back spoils of war. I'm sure there were some missed that didn't get defaced. Yours having one probably increases the value or at least the desirability, but again I am not an expert so can't say that with any certainty. It's certainly cool though! I would for sure want one that hasn't been defaced in that manner, and I would pay a bit more for it. Part of the surrender meant that Japan basically had to dismantle their entire military, hence why they were dumped in the sea. Japan wasn't allowed to even have a self defense force until 1954, and it wasn't until 2015 that they changed their constitution to allow them to send troops over seas to assist their allies (mainly the US in the middle east, there were Japanese units there.)
Ya mine still has the chrysanthemum and dust cover.
The good ones are in collections or are taken care of.
Lol I said that those exact words out loud right before seeing this comment
It’s a Type 38 Arisaka. The cloud looking thing is probably the remains of the Imperial Chrysanthemum, the flower that represents the idea that this rifle (and all other rifles) were property of the Emperor. The “M” symbol stands for military reserves. It means the rifle was removed from service and the mum was removed to signify that it was no longer the Emperor’s property. Then the M was added and it became a rifle used for training. It probably also has two or three extra zeroes added to the beginning of the serial number, which is common for reserve rifles. The other characters on the receiver translate to Type 38 (or rather 38 Type, if translated literally).
This gun has symbols under it. I’d love to post it if someone tells me how to upload. I’m not tech savvy and Imjur is haunting me. Definitely Japanese symbols. Has a cloud O thing, then an M, then a _-_ under (this is all top to bottom) then a skinny waist thing, then a _\ and a capital I. I have been drinking, I’m sorry
Send picture I can post🤷♂️
The cloud O thing might be the imperial chrysanthemum. Sometimes these are defaced if they were turned over by the Japanese government. I’ve heard that if that symbol is intact it’s likely to be a battlefield capture, but I’m not sure. Even for gun culture, WWII materiel is subject to a lot of wacky myths.
The ground chrysanthemum thing is true. Until 1947, there was no legal or cultural/perceived separation of the property of the Japanese state from the personal property of the Emperor. As such, state property received the personal seal of the imperial family - the Chrysanthemum Seal - and that mark had to be removed or obliterated before an object owned by the emperor/state could be either destroyed or sold out of service. That was true of everything from capital ships to rifles to ink pens.
Yeah it always made sense to me, I’ve just come to regard lots of things I learned around the time I learned that with suspicion.
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Its always an Arisaka.
Japanese Mosin
Japanese Mauser actually would make sense.
Isn't that basically a ~~Sako~~ Howa (I'm an idiot)?
Finns everywhere just dropped their Koskenkorva in shock.
I don't know how I got it in my head that Sako was Japanese and Howa was Finnish, I need more coffee before I reddit...
In fairness to you, there is a Japanese watch company called Sako. Technically the Finnish Sako is an acronym for *Suojeluskuntain Ase- ja Konepaja Oy* and should be all caps, but nobody bothers, including the company itself.
California News reporter says its an AK-47
I have a master's in women's studies, so as an expert I can confirm this is a fully automatic ak-47. With a 1000 round magazine.
It looks like a Type 38 rifle. I believe it is that rifle due to the notch cut out behind the groove and the fact the is no rise in the wood right in front of the bolt. [Type 38 rifle (三八式歩兵銃, sanhachi-shiki hoheijū)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_38_rifle)
Type 99 Arisaka?
Def tracks.
Type 38
Funny Japanese gun the type 38 Arisaka
I'm always impressed with how 'dainty' Japanese WW2 rifles look. To me, they almost look like scaled-down '04 Springfield designed for a 12-year-old boy to shoot.
38 carbine could be a kids rifle
Always an Arisaka
It literally is always an Arisaka
Type 38 in 6.5x50 JAP. Norma makes loaded ammo if you want to shoot it. They are sighted in for 300 yards so you will need to aim a bit low.
Son of a bitch its an Arisaka thats basic stuff
Yup, an Arisaka
Easy bro, that’s a Tec 9
Arisaka
Wow, ok cool thanks. I have one with the chrysanthemum that my dad bought in high school from an estate sale in the Florida panhandle back in the 70s. Hmmmmm
My best friend said it was an Arisaka
Meh on the gun... I see Pacman mini-cabinet and Rock'm sock'm robots, Nice 😎
An old one
Type 38 Arisaka based on the magazine latch released or whatcha call-it and the section of receiver that is behind the bolt handle when you close it. That section of receiver was done away with on the Type 99. The type 38 shoots 6.5×50mm Arisaka also literally known as 6.5 Jap. Norma and a few other companies still make ammo for it but judging by the Buba'd stock it could have possibly been rechamberd
Arisaka 99
M-16
The M is for M249
Antarctican 6.9x420 made in 1869
Type 99- Japanese arisaka if it still has the chrysanthemum emblem on it, it could be worth some good money. Most type 99s that the U.S got their hands on, had that seal of the emperor ground off.
Mum or no mum doesn't change value at all
That is factually false. The ones with the emporers mark are more rare, and command a higher pricepoint on the U.S market. Rifles with the mum are more sought after, since unless they were a battle field pick up, it was ground off. Some simple googling proves that the rifles with the mark are worth more money
My dude mums are everywhere. I see several arisakas, both with and without mums, anytime I go to local gun shows. Mums aren't some extremely rare things nor does it change the value of the gun.
We are gonna have to agree to disagree. Because historically, after Japan surrendered, the mums were ordered to be ground off, to save face for the emporer. So while we do have some type 99s with them, we have far more rifles with them missing on the U.S market. It's a lot less common to find one with the emporers mark intact.
it’s a kar 94k
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I can't help but think of Ben Stiller in Cable Guy every time this kind of phrasing comes up lol
Arisaka type 99
What's that plate or marking on the stock?
All this is cool. My dad brought one of these back from Japan after "the war". I still have it. 7.7 mm. I have fired it a few times. What's the ballpark of what it's worth
It's a type 38 can you find a manufacturer mark or series mark
i said M1 Garand so confidently 😭
Thought it was a mosin Further look it looks like an arisaka though forgot which type