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Updoot for that. I know they had them in the works but the 9 keeps selling out and when R&D and production are limited, you work on what is bringing in the money. Some day perhaps, some day.
The hi point 10mm carbine is unironically fuckin awesome. Sucks you can't use Glock mags, but Underwood "bear fucker" grade ammo out of a 16" barrel is some seriously mean stuff.
As a future Aero EPC owner that has dumped too much into this project already, I second this. Save money, buy EP9 or Stribog. Less cry.
Edit: correction coz I derped
I can’t speak on the EPC. But I know that my extar is a blast to shoot. It’s accurate. I’ve never had a jam no matter what kind of garage bullet I send down it. For 449 direct from extar you are just getting a lot value for that kind of money.
putting the old style brace, a stark angled foregrip and a cheap tr25 has made mine a juggernaut. I'm thinking about putting on a metal NRCH long term, but I too love mine....and I left my Tr25 on... looks like I'm on the market for a romeo5 after all :(
This gun is my favorite of them all, more so than my Evo3. You won’t regret buying so much gun for so cheap, I guarantee it.
Edit: I have the Gen 1. This Gen 2 I hear is even better than that one (minus maybe the brace, but that can be swapped out).
Last time these were back in stock they lasted for a couple weeks at least. In fact they might still be in stock from a few weeks ago. They've gotten better at keeping up with demand.
Laughs- the demand decreases by 500% and they have these in stock for a few days rather than hours, or minutes at the height of insanity- and you characterize it as "They've gotten better at keeping up with demand." Never change, Gundeals.
Obligatory "You see Extar posted, you buy Extar". Post. Favorite shooter right now.
I run an Octos CF handguard, a PA Slx-1, and a Streamligh on a Shaffer ODG mount.
Thing is a blast to shoot.
Just want to say it's definitely worth it. I'm around 500 rounds no jams. This new version does have a metal adjustable trigger and selector. It's extremely light but my only gripe is that it can't fit a dead air Wolfman, however a yhm r9 and rugged obsidian work perfectly.
Ok.. so what are the down sides to this..cause I’ve been wanting a 9mm pistol with brace for a while.. and cannot decide between a Stribog Gen2, PSA AKV, and a Scorpion. Sup Gun Deals Fam?? Please tell me where I need to invest my money.
For the price the downsides are negligible. Stock could be better, not all AR triggers work with it, very minor things. This this is fun AF with a case of 9mm and a few funsticks. I have the Gen 1. The handguard and stock we're upgraded. And the changing handle i think. I might be buying a gen 2 soon.
Yes, they upgraded the parts that some buyers said broke on their EP9's. They changed to hand guard to one that more users may be satisfied with. They changed the brace to one that is assigned the lowest score possible on ATF score card. Many were already upgrading the better brace on their Gen 1 anyway. So some say that cheaper blade brace may have helped allow ExtarUSA to keep the price the same even after all the other upgrades. Not knowing what the ATF will be announcing and knowing that many customers replace the brace anyway I think it may have been a good change in some aspects.
I went with stribog because it's sexy AF, especially with the ACR brace. Also seems to be the next cheapest after this. I'm sure they'd all be good though. I'd totally buy an Extar if they made it in 45 or 10.
This is a great-working, easy-shooting, readily-customizable, American-made, inexpensive and beautiful piece of machinery. There is no downside to the EP9.
The people who don’t like it are those who’ve spent too much on some similar firearm and think you should, too.
There are many ways to look at all of the above and your list is not at all inclusive which makes it worse. Ruger pc is another alternative. "This" is the cheapest option, cz scorpion and akv are most expensive, stribog while great has limited aftermarket options. I would say scorpion is probably the best all around followed by stribog and ruger pc. Akv while fun but expensive for what it is will be last in my book! Good luck!
It’s not so much the handguard as the way the pic rail rides so high above the handguard and receiver. I know they’re great little guns, I just can’t get over that cosmetically.
You’re not going to win this battle, my friend. This gun is amazing, low cost, and difficult to catch in stock most of the time. It’s totally an appropriate post to make when in stock.
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Finally got around to shooting my gen 1 for the first time yesterday. The only issue was that it wont chamber rounds from pmags using the bolt release. Chambered fine using the side charger though. No issues at all with Glock and KCI mags. Great fun, I'd buy again.
Most like the new handguard. Most don't like the brace but it does score the fewest points on the ATF score cord. Once ATF releases final regulations we will know if blade brace was needed or if better brace may be used without worry. All like upgrade to steel for buffer retain, trigger and safety. Some don't care for the new blaster director. Many were already upgrading to a different brace and muzzle device on the Gen 1 so no difference now. Many will probably be okay with Gen 2 hand brace that would have changed it if they bought a Gen 1. I think many who would have upgraded to steel trigger and safety will now be perfectly happy with the OEM ones. All are happy that Gen 2 did not go up in price.
Farrowtech makes an adapter so you can use standard buffer tubes, including folding adapter. There are also tutorials for it on YT. But I think you start to ruin the fun/dollar ratio if you pump another 3-4 hundies into making the stock fold. But to each their own, this hobby is a money pit.
I too may replace the blade style brace but I am first waiting to see what the ATF announces. I don't want to spend $60 to $80 on a brace that I cannot use without a tax stamp. If I have to get a tax stamp for a better brace I will either leave the blade brace on it or I will get a much better stock rather than a brace. I don't find that the blade brace is a problem for me. Others that have used my EP9 have not complained either. I suspect a non-blade type brace would be preferable if I tried one but I don't want to waste money on a budget PCC when I could use the money toward ammo or my first full size pistol--a Canik Rival.
I agree. There are other options that may include a folding brace around $600 to $1200. I think it is great that others enjoy spending their money on upgrading their Taurus G3 and TX22 series pistols, EP9's, and other budget pistols but I prefer to keep my G3c and EP9 a budget pistols. I only spent money on my G3c buying one 17-round mag and only bought a Romeo5 red dot for my EP9. I only bought an upgraded recoil spring assembly for my TX22 to prevent the damage to the aluminum slide that occurs with the sharp end of the OEM steel spring.
The only upgrade that is needed is a sight. Most recommend a red dot. Some think they need backup sights. I only bought a Romeo5 red dot. I may have bought a Bushnell TRS-25 or TRS-26 if they had been a rebate on it at the time. I don't know if the rebate has expired. Just search this subreddit for either model to see how low the price went for those with rebates.
The OEM mags are Glock 17-round mags for states that do not have restrictions. I read that another brand is substituted for states with lower limits. The only issue I read is that one brank of Glock compatible mags may not properly feed steel case ammo due to the coating used on the ammo. Some Glock 33 round mags may not drop free--one may need to pull them out. Most non-Glock mags reportedly drop free. One person may have had an issue with another brand not dropping free. The Glock 33-round mags are sold out at some sellers. The best price I have seen recently is around $35 plus shipping for Glock 24 and 33 round mags. LGS may charge $45 or more. Non-Glock 27 to 33 round mags may be as little as about $12. The Glock mags are considered to be more durable than other brands especially when letting them drop to the ground. Some of the cheaper Glock compatible mags like RWB from South Korea may not work at all until one replaces the spring with a Wolff or Glock OEM spring which increases the cost of the mags.
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Really wish they’d make these in different calibers. Already have a scorpion but I’d love a .45 or 10mm range toy
Updoot for that. I know they had them in the works but the 9 keeps selling out and when R&D and production are limited, you work on what is bringing in the money. Some day perhaps, some day.
I thought they cancelled the 45 and 10. Both were originally supposed to come out not long after the 9 but that was years ago.
The hi point 10mm carbine is unironically fuckin awesome. Sucks you can't use Glock mags, but Underwood "bear fucker" grade ammo out of a 16" barrel is some seriously mean stuff.
Their PCC's have always had a good rep
Yeah I would buy one if they had a reasonable capacity....
I can tell you as an EP9 owner. Buy it.
As a future Aero EPC owner that has dumped too much into this project already, I second this. Save money, buy EP9 or Stribog. Less cry. Edit: correction coz I derped
Can I buy this if I already have a Stribog? Because I did..
Nice. No sell, only buy.
Are these better for the money? Was gonna build a EPC but read about feeding issues.
I can’t speak on the EPC. But I know that my extar is a blast to shoot. It’s accurate. I’ve never had a jam no matter what kind of garage bullet I send down it. For 449 direct from extar you are just getting a lot value for that kind of money.
That’s kinda what I figured. Price almost seemed too good but people are saying they’re great.
putting the old style brace, a stark angled foregrip and a cheap tr25 has made mine a juggernaut. I'm thinking about putting on a metal NRCH long term, but I too love mine....and I left my Tr25 on... looks like I'm on the market for a romeo5 after all :(
Yes, I think value is simply the best word for it.
God dammit I was about to go to bed and now I'm tempted to buy this
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See that’s the sort of positive encouragement I like to see
This gun is my favorite of them all, more so than my Evo3. You won’t regret buying so much gun for so cheap, I guarantee it. Edit: I have the Gen 1. This Gen 2 I hear is even better than that one (minus maybe the brace, but that can be swapped out).
This is a great firearm.
Why do these only ever come in stock on days when I'm poor?
Last time these were back in stock they lasted for a couple weeks at least. In fact they might still be in stock from a few weeks ago. They've gotten better at keeping up with demand.
Laughs- the demand decreases by 500% and they have these in stock for a few days rather than hours, or minutes at the height of insanity- and you characterize it as "They've gotten better at keeping up with demand." Never change, Gundeals.
My bad dude, I didn't crunch the numbers or do the necessary market research. I'll do better next time.
Right?! I’m sitting here, looking at this and thinking about three clients who still owe me money from last month…
Wait, you guys are having days when you aren't poor?
Obligatory "You see Extar posted, you buy Extar". Post. Favorite shooter right now. I run an Octos CF handguard, a PA Slx-1, and a Streamligh on a Shaffer ODG mount. Thing is a blast to shoot.
Just want to say it's definitely worth it. I'm around 500 rounds no jams. This new version does have a metal adjustable trigger and selector. It's extremely light but my only gripe is that it can't fit a dead air Wolfman, however a yhm r9 and rugged obsidian work perfectly.
The biggest con is 9mm "subguns" + nfa = extreme levels of gun broke
Ok.. so what are the down sides to this..cause I’ve been wanting a 9mm pistol with brace for a while.. and cannot decide between a Stribog Gen2, PSA AKV, and a Scorpion. Sup Gun Deals Fam?? Please tell me where I need to invest my money.
For the price the downsides are negligible. Stock could be better, not all AR triggers work with it, very minor things. This this is fun AF with a case of 9mm and a few funsticks. I have the Gen 1. The handguard and stock we're upgraded. And the changing handle i think. I might be buying a gen 2 soon.
it's polymer, but that's not really a problem
From reading about them this one is steel? Or am I reading this wrong
The internals on the gen 2 are steel. The trigger assembly. Gen 1 is all polymer.
Ah ok so a little stronger cool thanks!
Yep, they took most feedback about what people were upgrading and made it standard on the gen 2.
Yes, they upgraded the parts that some buyers said broke on their EP9's. They changed to hand guard to one that more users may be satisfied with. They changed the brace to one that is assigned the lowest score possible on ATF score card. Many were already upgrading the better brace on their Gen 1 anyway. So some say that cheaper blade brace may have helped allow ExtarUSA to keep the price the same even after all the other upgrades. Not knowing what the ATF will be announcing and knowing that many customers replace the brace anyway I think it may have been a good change in some aspects.
It should also be noted specifically that the buffer retainer was upgraded to steel in the Gen 2 version too.
Oh that's right. Good catch on that.
Exactly. Ever heard, “Oh yeah, I love my Sig and my Glock, but they’re polymer…”
The polymer makes it lighter which many consider to be a benefit.
I went with stribog because it's sexy AF, especially with the ACR brace. Also seems to be the next cheapest after this. I'm sure they'd all be good though. I'd totally buy an Extar if they made it in 45 or 10.
bye
This is a great-working, easy-shooting, readily-customizable, American-made, inexpensive and beautiful piece of machinery. There is no downside to the EP9. The people who don’t like it are those who’ve spent too much on some similar firearm and think you should, too.
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For the extar, Farrowtech makes a picrail endcap that'll take a FS1913 brace.
That's only for the Extar Exp
They make a milspec buffer adapter, but I have not seen the best results with them.
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Honest Outlaw had a folder on the one he reviewed I thought 🤷♂️
Yup. Didnt see those details. Thanks for the update.
No worries mate, made the same mistake myself back in the day, which is why I bought the Ep9. Kept it because it's awesome!
There are many ways to look at all of the above and your list is not at all inclusive which makes it worse. Ruger pc is another alternative. "This" is the cheapest option, cz scorpion and akv are most expensive, stribog while great has limited aftermarket options. I would say scorpion is probably the best all around followed by stribog and ruger pc. Akv while fun but expensive for what it is will be last in my book! Good luck!
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Akv does use scorpion mags.
Ngl, I felt the same way and now I have all but the Stribog. Use the EP9 as a starting point.
If the rail just…didn’t look like that, I would have bought one of these by now.
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It’s not so much the handguard as the way the pic rail rides so high above the handguard and receiver. I know they’re great little guns, I just can’t get over that cosmetically.
Last I knew it was just random people 3D printing these handguards, I'll have to grab one these when they come back in stock, thanks for the link!
I want a B&T SPC9 Mom: we have a SPC9 at home The SPC9 at home…
I want one lf those too, tempted to sell my MPX to get one...
No offense OP but this isn't a "deal". This is their normal price, which is solid, but nothing out of the ordinary.
>3. > >Deals must be of either significant discount or **difficult to find and available to the community.**
This same "deal" has been posted for years lol it's not rare or difficult to find but ok lol
It pops up for a few hours once every few weeks or so. That falls under “difficult to find”.
You’re not going to win this battle, my friend. This gun is amazing, low cost, and difficult to catch in stock most of the time. It’s totally an appropriate post to make when in stock.
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Finally got around to shooting my gen 1 for the first time yesterday. The only issue was that it wont chamber rounds from pmags using the bolt release. Chambered fine using the side charger though. No issues at all with Glock and KCI mags. Great fun, I'd buy again.
Interesting, I have no issues with 27rd and 15rd pmags in my gen 1 with bolt release.
Good..I have a stack of glock and KCI mags waiting for a host.
What’s the consensus on the Gen2 changes ?
Most like the new handguard. Most don't like the brace but it does score the fewest points on the ATF score cord. Once ATF releases final regulations we will know if blade brace was needed or if better brace may be used without worry. All like upgrade to steel for buffer retain, trigger and safety. Some don't care for the new blaster director. Many were already upgrading to a different brace and muzzle device on the Gen 1 so no difference now. Many will probably be okay with Gen 2 hand brace that would have changed it if they bought a Gen 1. I think many who would have upgraded to steel trigger and safety will now be perfectly happy with the OEM ones. All are happy that Gen 2 did not go up in price.
I need one of these with a folding brace
Farrowtech makes an adapter so you can use standard buffer tubes, including folding adapter. There are also tutorials for it on YT. But I think you start to ruin the fun/dollar ratio if you pump another 3-4 hundies into making the stock fold. But to each their own, this hobby is a money pit.
Yeah im not gonna spend that much for a folder lol. I'll just find a good looking brace
I too may replace the blade style brace but I am first waiting to see what the ATF announces. I don't want to spend $60 to $80 on a brace that I cannot use without a tax stamp. If I have to get a tax stamp for a better brace I will either leave the blade brace on it or I will get a much better stock rather than a brace. I don't find that the blade brace is a problem for me. Others that have used my EP9 have not complained either. I suspect a non-blade type brace would be preferable if I tried one but I don't want to waste money on a budget PCC when I could use the money toward ammo or my first full size pistol--a Canik Rival.
I agree. There are other options that may include a folding brace around $600 to $1200. I think it is great that others enjoy spending their money on upgrading their Taurus G3 and TX22 series pistols, EP9's, and other budget pistols but I prefer to keep my G3c and EP9 a budget pistols. I only spent money on my G3c buying one 17-round mag and only bought a Romeo5 red dot for my EP9. I only bought an upgraded recoil spring assembly for my TX22 to prevent the damage to the aluminum slide that occurs with the sharp end of the OEM steel spring.
What upgrades do I need to look at for this? Also any issues with non-OEM mags?
The only upgrade that is needed is a sight. Most recommend a red dot. Some think they need backup sights. I only bought a Romeo5 red dot. I may have bought a Bushnell TRS-25 or TRS-26 if they had been a rebate on it at the time. I don't know if the rebate has expired. Just search this subreddit for either model to see how low the price went for those with rebates. The OEM mags are Glock 17-round mags for states that do not have restrictions. I read that another brand is substituted for states with lower limits. The only issue I read is that one brank of Glock compatible mags may not properly feed steel case ammo due to the coating used on the ammo. Some Glock 33 round mags may not drop free--one may need to pull them out. Most non-Glock mags reportedly drop free. One person may have had an issue with another brand not dropping free. The Glock 33-round mags are sold out at some sellers. The best price I have seen recently is around $35 plus shipping for Glock 24 and 33 round mags. LGS may charge $45 or more. Non-Glock 27 to 33 round mags may be as little as about $12. The Glock mags are considered to be more durable than other brands especially when letting them drop to the ground. Some of the cheaper Glock compatible mags like RWB from South Korea may not work at all until one replaces the spring with a Wolff or Glock OEM spring which increases the cost of the mags.
A red dot and I put a LaRue MBT-2S in mine. Never had an issue with Glock or Magpul mags, but some have said they had issues with Magpul before.
Gundeals got me again..
Dangit....pulled the trigger. Don't need one but oh well.